Iran v U.S. + Iraq firefights
USMC leathernecks2
29-03-2007, 22:36
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070323/23iran.htm
According to a U.S. Army report out of Iraq obtained by U.S. News, American troops, acting as advisers for Iraqi border guards, were recently surrounded and attacked by a larger unit of Iranian soldiers, well within the border of Iraq.
It's the first time I've seen one of this incidents publicized. These incidents have occurred countless times before but I wonder if the army publishing a report means anything.
Drunk commies deleted
29-03-2007, 22:37
The Iranian government must be suicidal.
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070323/23iran.htm
It's the first time I've seen one of this incidents publicized. These incidents have occurred countless times before but I wonder if the army publishing a report means anything.
Why are border guards well within the border of Iraq?
UN Protectorates
29-03-2007, 22:43
The Iranian government must be suicidal.
Perhaps this is a case of rogue factions in the military? Like you said, attacks like this that are government sanctioned would have to be suicidal in nature. Despite what some people might think, the government of Iran is not insane or stupid.
Perhaps this is a case of rogue factions in the military? Like you said, attacks like this that are government sanctioned would have to be suicidal in nature. Despite what some people might think, the government of Iran is not insane or stupid.
Anyone who takes religion as seriously as they do is both insane and stupid.
Anyone who takes religion as seriously as they do is both insane and stupid.
What has the Pope - or the Dalai Lama - ever done to you? :(
Redwulf25
29-03-2007, 23:01
What has the Pope - or the Dalai Lama - ever done to you? :(
The Dalai Lama forgot my birthday.
The Dalai Lama forgot my birthday.
You'r supposed to be dead! :p
Yeah but if this a government sponsored attack then Iran is suicidal. If this is a miltary faction breaking away from the Iranian government then Iran would condemn them as much as everyone else....at least on the surface.
It is possible that Iranians thought they were in Iranian territory, according to U.S. military officials. Such border confusions and disputes happen routinely.
Q1. Where did the incident happen?
A1. About 75 miles east of Baghdad near the Iraq / Iran border.
Q2. Was it on the Iraqi or Iranian side of the border?
A2. The exact location is part of the ongoing investigation into this incident. The road the unit
was traveling on was a trail used by Iraqi Army and Border Police in the past without incident.
We take border incursions by any force seriously and will thoroughly investigate this matter to
determine the specific location.
Q3. Did U.S. forces cross the border?
A3. The location and route of travel are part of the ongoing investigation into this incident. We
take border incursions by any force seriously and will thoroughly investigate this matter to
determine the specific location.
Q4. Was this an up-provoked attack on coalition forces?
A4. We are investigating the cause of the attack.
Q5. Who initiated contact?
A5. We are investigating the circumstances surrounding this incident to determine exactly what
happened and why.
Q6. Where did the contact occur?
A6. Near the Iranian border, however the exact location is part of an ongoing investigation into
this incident.
Wow. This sure is a damning report guv'ner!
New Burmesia
29-03-2007, 23:07
The Iranian government must be suicidal.
Nope, because they know there's nothing anyone can do about them, at least without hurting our interests in the process.
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It's the first time I've seen one of this incidents publicized. These incidents have occurred countless times before but I wonder if the army publishing a report means anything.
That the months remaining for the current US admin are running out, and they really really really want to get a few bombs dropped on Iran before they go.....
Drunk commies deleted
29-03-2007, 23:19
Nope, because they know there's nothing anyone can do about them, at least without hurting our interests in the process.
Sure there is. Just bomb their homes at about 3 AM local time with an F117 or B2. You'd be likely to take them out along with their families.
Andaras Prime
30-03-2007, 02:03
http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/articles/070323/23iran.htm
It's the first time I've seen one of this incidents publicized. These incidents have occurred countless times before but I wonder if the army publishing a report means anything.
lol, pwned
Non Aligned States
30-03-2007, 02:38
From the article:
It is possible that Iranians thought they were in Iranian territory, according to U.S. military officials. Such border confusions and disputes happen routinely.
I'm waiting for more evidence before I pass any judgment.
USMC leathernecks2
30-03-2007, 02:49
From the article:
I'm waiting for more evidence before I pass any judgment.
I'll try to find some civvie sources but it's pretty common knowledge within the military that these engagements occur with frequency along the border. Not sure where to look to find news reports about any but I'd have to guess that any specific engagement debriefs would require some sort of security clearance to have access to.
Non Aligned States
30-03-2007, 03:15
It's not a question of frequency, although that has some bearing as well, but rather whether there's some kind of unofficial border dispute between Iran and the US going on.