Pain is evil. Discuss.
Kbrookistan
29-03-2007, 13:51
After careful study, I've reached the conclusion that pain is evil. Not the pain that warns you that you're going to get hurt or have just hurt yourself, the kind that comes after you've hurt yourself. You know something is wrong, you're working to correct it, why the hell can't we just turn it off? Or down to the point that the pain would only come back if you're going to do more damage?
I woke up this morning and I literally couldn't get down the stairs to the car. And thus, couldn't get to work. Luckily, the office ladies were getting tired of finding stuff for me to do, so they sounded happy, but still. :( And it's not that I have a low pain threshold. It is, in fact quite high, thanks to monthly Cramps from Hell. But once it gets over that threshold, I just have no tolerance for pain. So now I'm relegated to watching daytime TV and crocheting Easter baskets. Joy.
Eve Online
29-03-2007, 13:54
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
thanks to monthly Cramps from Hell. .
I heard cranberry juice really helpful, but I have no way to test it < is a guy
Kbrookistan
29-03-2007, 13:58
Pain is weakness leaving the body.
Fine, I'll trade you my sprained hip for your healthy one and we'll see how far you get. And my monthly overdoses of... oh, that hormone that causes excessive cramping... prostglandin. I'll giveyou my monthly overdoses of prostglandins, I'm sure you'd appreciate being incapacitated for a day or two out of every month, wouldn't you?
Kbrookistan
29-03-2007, 13:59
I heard cranberry juice really helpful, but I have no way to test it < is a guy
The only thing that helps is anaprox, and that's just a little. Narcotics make the pain go away, but that just trades on kind of incapacitation for another.
I V Stalin
29-03-2007, 14:05
After careful study, I've reached the conclusion that pain is evil. Not the pain that warns you that you're going to get hurt or have just hurt yourself, the kind that comes after you've hurt yourself. You know something is wrong, you're working to correct it, why the hell can't we just turn it off? Or down to the point that the pain would only come back if you're going to do more damage?
It's not evil. It's there as a reminder for you not to use that part of your body - if you have a sprained ankle, but it didn't hurt, you might start walking on it again, in which case you'd do yourself more damage.
Therefore, pain is good.
Eve Online
29-03-2007, 14:06
It's not evil. It's there as a reminder for you not to use that part of your body - if you have a sprained ankle, but it didn't hurt, you might start walking on it again, in which case you'd do yourself more damage.
Therefore, pain is good.
It's also a reminder that you shouldn't have done something stupid, or should have worked out more, or should have taken care of yourself better.
It's usually a lesson learned.
Alzestra
29-03-2007, 14:11
A lesson learned? What about if the cause of the pain is through no action of the person? What lesson is learned there?
Personally, I don't really consider pain to be "evil", to be hoenst, I think its part of what shapes us as people. Now daytime tv on the other hand...
United Beleriand
29-03-2007, 14:36
pain is pain. just that. a nervous sensation. and basically it is a positive feature, since otherwise your brain wouldn't realize damages to your body or parts of the body that are supposed to be operated more carefully than normal. however, there is absolutely no moral dimension to it as in "good vs evil".
Yeah pain is bad. Right now I feel like crap. I have a bad headache and sore throat but I need to go into work soon. :(
Alzestra
29-03-2007, 14:42
Yeah pain is bad. Right now I feel like crap. I have a bad headache and sore throat but I need to go into work soon. :(
Try going into work after a night with Irish relatives celebrating a graduation that happened months ago.
Jesus!
Pain is not evil.
The red knight asking lodging is evil.
When I was younger, sometimes it made me scream and cry. Thanks god, I am a woman removed from that curse from above.
Try going into work after a night with Irish relatives celebrating a graduation that happened months ago.
Jesus!
Haha. How legendary. I wish I had irish relatives...
United Beleriand
29-03-2007, 14:47
Yeah pain is bad. Right now I feel like crap. I have a bad headache and sore throat but I need to go into work soon. :(Just have a hot tea and everything will be alright. ;)
Just have a hot tea and everything will be alright. ;)
Hmm good idea... *Goes off to make a cup of tea* Mmm tea...:D
I V Stalin
29-03-2007, 14:54
Hmm good idea... *Goes off to make a cup of tea* Mmm tea...:D
Tea solves everything. And anything it doesn't solve can be solved by cheese.
United Beleriand
29-03-2007, 14:55
Tea solves everything. And anything it doesn't solve can be solved by cheese.Just don't put the cheese in the hot tea :(
I V Stalin
29-03-2007, 14:57
Just don't put the cheese in the hot tea :(
Thus speaks the voice of experience. :p
United Beleriand
29-03-2007, 15:01
Thus speaks the voice of experience. :pyou know, there are some things you do not have to experience to know...
I V Stalin
29-03-2007, 15:08
you know, there are some things you do not have to experience to know...
So you don't think a nice creamy slice of Brie would go with my cup of Assam?
Bugger.
Dishonorable Scum
29-03-2007, 15:09
To the extent that there is a metaphysical aspect to pain, it's still not evil. It can be used in evil ways, of course (we call that "torture"), but if approached with the right frame of mind, there are also lessons that can be learned from it.
No time to go into detail on this, alas.
Slaughterhouse five
29-03-2007, 15:13
you have two choices
some people like the pain. it makes them happy. you just need to become one of these people. it may require additional equipment such as leather suits and whips.
or
train with some Buddhist monks. they will teach you to not feel the pain anymore. although you may have to shave your head.
Big Jim P
29-03-2007, 15:17
Pain: Notice it, file it away for future reference and/or attention, then suck it up and drive on.
Pain is your body's reaction to a negative event (or part of that reaction). It's there to let you know that something is going "wrong" (even if it does happen every month), and to avoid whatever it is you're doing that causes the pain.
Also, the pill helps regulate cramps and such. A friend of mine swears by it.
Chloralon
29-03-2007, 15:22
There are some that find pain to be rather therapeutic. I don't mind it in small, regular applications, with the help of a friend. ^_^
On the contrary. Some pain is fantastic.
Bodies Without Organs
29-03-2007, 15:55
Pain is your body's reaction to a negative event...
Giving birth is a 'negative event'?
Big Jim P
29-03-2007, 16:01
Giving birth is a 'negative event'?
Having been borne and taking a good look at the idiots in the world, I'd say yes
Ashmoria
29-03-2007, 16:09
Fine, I'll trade you my sprained hip for your healthy one and we'll see how far you get. And my monthly overdoses of... oh, that hormone that causes excessive cramping... prostglandin. I'll giveyou my monthly overdoses of prostglandins, I'm sure you'd appreciate being incapacitated for a day or two out of every month, wouldn't you?
what did you do to your hip?
i find pain more annoying than evil. you want to do things but pain gets in the way. after a while it just bugs the hell out of me.
Epic Fusion
29-03-2007, 16:20
meh pain, just like pleasure, can be both good or evil
i would say torture is an example of evil pain, maybe not if used jack bauer style, and that sexual pain is an example of good pain (maybe guilt is a better example)
Deus Malum
29-03-2007, 16:45
Haha. How legendary. I wish I had irish relatives...
Just tell everyone you're brown irish. You'd be surprised how often that works with drunk irish people.
Bodies Without Organs
29-03-2007, 16:59
Having been borne and taking a good look at the idiots in the world, I'd say yes
Giving birth is not the same thing as being born, unless I've hideously misunderstood my old biology classes, no?
Ultraviolent Radiation
29-03-2007, 17:09
Giving birth is a 'negative event'?
It does have negative physiological effects on the body of the mother, does it not?