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A Hard Decision, help needed.

Luporum
28-03-2007, 17:10
My new vet just passed down the suggestion of putting my 8 year old German Sheppard, Max, to sleep.

He's been suffering from violent seizures and hip dysplasia for the last few years. Lately he's taken a turn for the worse. Once every half hour he goes into a fit, which is the most painful thing I have ever seen. Then he'll wake up moaning in pain from the pain in his haunches, which just about brings me to tears anytime I hear him.

I've buried three pets in my life, one just a few weeks ago, but this is probably the most heart wrenching.

Now my parents, who are seperated, are fighting over on how he should be put down. My mom wants it done at the vet's, but my father wants it done at his house via pistol.

The decision has been passed down to me for some goddamned reason, so now I just need some advice.
Kryozerkia
28-03-2007, 17:11
Have it done at the vet. Some how, the pistol seems too Old Yeller...
Drunk commies deleted
28-03-2007, 17:15
Either way is quick. I'd lean toward the vet just because it seems like less chance the animal would feel any pain. Whatever you decide it's got to be hard to lose your dog.
The Nazz
28-03-2007, 17:18
Either way is quick. I'd lean toward the vet just because it seems like less chance the animal would feel any pain. Whatever you decide it's got to be hard to lose your dog.

Absolutely. I don't see why anyone would want the last thing your pet ever sees is you standing over it with a weapon of any kind.
Snafturi
28-03-2007, 17:18
The vet. I'm pro-gun, but shooting your animal is barbaric. (Sorry, I don't mean to offend. I had this fight with a b/f once about my ferret. So it gets me a bit riled).

You might also want to find out if there's a vet in your area that will come to your house to do it. There's several here. It's not as expensive as you would think. I like the IV way because you can hold them while it's happening, I think they feel safe. At least that was my expierience. Oh, I'm crying now. I'm so sorry you have to do this. It's so awful losing a pet.
Luporum
28-03-2007, 17:19
What the vet does never seemed painless. The first injection put the dogs to sleep and the following one stopped their hearts. It took roughly two minutes after the second shot for them to pass away, and during which I could see them wincing in their sleep.

I can't decide.
Snafturi
28-03-2007, 17:20
What the vet does never seemed painless. The first injection put the dogs to sleep and the following one stopped their hearts. It took roughly two minutes after the second shot for them to pass away, and during which I could see them wincing in their sleep.

I can't decide.

My vets always knocked them out with anathesia first. I'm sure you can request it.
The Treacle Mine Road
28-03-2007, 17:20
Either way is quick and relatively pain free. I'd suggest vet, because it might be hard to hit the dog in precisely the right spot to kill instantly with the bullet, and its emotionally harder.
The Pictish Revival
28-03-2007, 17:21
Vet, no question.

You want it to be instant and painless. A bullet, even fired at point blank range to the head, might be neither of those things.
Futuris
28-03-2007, 17:22
The injections seem more peaceful, while the gun is more violent. Plus, the pistol puts a nasty bullet hole in your dog's head, which seems....less nice....then a needle injection.

And I think that the injection is more humane, in general.
The Pictish Revival
28-03-2007, 17:26
What the vet does never seemed painless. The first injection put the dogs to sleep and the following one stopped their hearts. It took roughly two minutes after the second shot for them to pass away, and during which I could see them wincing in their sleep.

I can't decide.

Our gigantic mastiff was put down by injection (unless I missed something, it was only one injection) and was gone in a couple of seconds. Maybe there was a previous injection that I didn't see somehow, but he didn't seem to be in any pain.
Luporum
28-03-2007, 17:30
Our gigantic mastiff was put down by injection (unless I missed something, it was only one injection) and was gone in a couple of seconds. Maybe there was a previous injection that I didn't see somehow, but he didn't seem to be in any pain.

My previous vet was a boob so who knows. This new guy seems to at least care.
Isidoor
28-03-2007, 17:31
let the vet do it, they are trained for it, it will be best for the dog (imagine your dad misses the first time) and who wants to see his dead dog without a head? personally i can't even imagine that one would shoot it's own pet. is that even legal?
Peepelonia
28-03-2007, 17:33
My new vet just passed down the suggestion of putting my 8 year old German Sheppard, Max, to sleep.

He's been suffering from violent seizures and hip dysplasia for the last few years. Lately he's taken a turn for the worse. Once every half hour he goes into a fit, which is the most painful thing I have ever seen. Then he'll wake up moaning in pain from the pain in his haunches, which just about brings me to tears anytime I hear him.

I've buried three pets in my life, one just a few weeks ago, but this is probably the most heart wrenching.

Now my parents, who are seperated, are fighting over on how he should be put down. My mom wants it done at the vet's, but my father wants it done at his house via pistol.

The decision has been passed down to me for some goddamned reason, so now I just need some advice.

Ahhh I don't envy ya. If you adopt the do it yourselve approach it may be a bit easyer on your emotions afterward, but it's going to be hard pulling the triger, yet it is still the option I would go with.

I am not you though, so as I say I don't envy your choie.
Ashmoria
28-03-2007, 17:39
my sympathies on having to make this decision and having to lose your dog no matter what you decide.

the vet. go with if you can bring yourself to do it and comfort him as he goes. he'd do it for you.
Carnivorous Lickers
28-03-2007, 17:40
Absolutely. I don't see why anyone would want the last thing your pet ever sees is you standing over it with a weapon of any kind.

I agree-go to the vet and have a professiona ldo it right.

I dont think you want your last image of your pet being dispatched in a messy manner either.

You'll remember the vet as being proper and professional and humane.
And legal.
Arinola
28-03-2007, 17:44
I'd sugges the vet. It just seems more humane, and you may not put down your dog painlessly with the bullet.
Kecibukia
28-03-2007, 17:48
I've done both. I save the bullet for emergencies and the vet isn't available. I'ld go w/ the vet if at all possible.
Philosopy
28-03-2007, 17:54
Are you allowed to just shoot your dog like that?
Luporum
28-03-2007, 20:33
Are you allowed to just shoot your dog like that?

It costs a bit to go to the vet, some people might not be able to afford it. As far as I know, no cop around my area would hastle someone for having to put their dog down.
Anti-Social Darwinism
28-03-2007, 20:35
Have it done at the vet. And, no matter how hard this sounds, you should stay with him and hold his paw until he's gone.

Your father may be an estimable human being, but he's way out of line on this.
Luporum
28-03-2007, 20:40
Absolutely. I don't see why anyone would want the last thing your pet ever sees is you standing over it with a weapon of any kind.

My dogs hate the vet, and none of them know what a gun even is. This old one can barely see at all. I honestly don't think the last thing he wants to see is another guy in a white coat getting ready to stab him with things.

He has a nasty problem with vets. His first vet would get really abusive to him when he would start crying. It wasn't until I heard the vet yelling at him that I ran in there wanting to tear the fucker's tongue out through his neck.

I don't think I can bear hearing cry as he's being put to sleep. At least at my pop's house he'll feel comfortable with the people he loves before the end.
Kyronea
28-03-2007, 20:58
My new vet just passed down the suggestion of putting my 8 year old German Sheppard, Max, to sleep.

He's been suffering from violent seizures and hip dysplasia for the last few years. Lately he's taken a turn for the worse. Once every half hour he goes into a fit, which is the most painful thing I have ever seen. Then he'll wake up moaning in pain from the pain in his haunches, which just about brings me to tears anytime I hear him.

I've buried three pets in my life, one just a few weeks ago, but this is probably the most heart wrenching.

Now my parents, who are seperated, are fighting over on how he should be put down. My mom wants it done at the vet's, but my father wants it done at his house via pistol.

The decision has been passed down to me for some goddamned reason, so now I just need some advice.
A large dosage of sedatives followed by a shot to the head. That way the dog feels no pain from the gunshot and you don't have to waste other drugs to kill him.

I've been lucky...no pet of mine has ever had to be put down for any reason. I don't know how bad this must feel, but I sympathize.
Nodinia
28-03-2007, 21:18
My new vet just passed down the suggestion of putting my 8 year old German Sheppard, Max, to sleep.

He's been suffering from violent seizures and hip dysplasia for the last few years. Lately he's taken a turn for the worse. Once every half hour he goes into a fit, which is the most painful thing I have ever seen. Then he'll wake up moaning in pain from the pain in his haunches, which just about brings me to tears anytime I hear him.

I've buried three pets in my life, one just a few weeks ago, but this is probably the most heart wrenching.

Now my parents, who are seperated, are fighting over on how he should be put down. My mom wants it done at the vet's, but my father wants it done at his house via pistol.

The decision has been passed down to me for some goddamned reason, so now I just need some advice.


Vets, but get the Father to go and stay with him (which is presuming he wants to be with the poor lad at the end). Had to have the same done on my dog there a few weeks back. He was 11 but in good health, then went into rapid decline over a month or so. At the end he was also having fits that were on-going for increasing periods. Not good.
Snafturi
28-03-2007, 21:20
My dogs hate the vet, and none of them know what a gun even is. This old one can barely see at all. I honestly don't think the last thing he wants to see is another guy in a white coat getting ready to stab him with things.

He has a nasty problem with vets. His first vet would get really abusive to him when he would start crying. It wasn't until I heard the vet yelling at him that I ran in there wanting to tear the fucker's tongue out through his neck.

I don't think I can bear hearing cry as he's being put to sleep. At least at my pop's house he'll feel comfortable with the people he loves before the end.

Is there any vet in your area who will come to your house? It's really not as expensive as you'd imagine.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
28-03-2007, 21:28
Is there any vet in your area who will come to your house? It's really not as expensive as you'd imagine.I was going to suggest that. The vets I know are always prepared to come to people's homes. The dog being in a safe environment, with his people around him, and the vet leaving his white coat at home, will be the best option, I think.
Gaithersburg
28-03-2007, 21:32
I would recommend the vet. Vet offices have ways to tactfully deal with animal's remains. I don't know about you, but I would not want to be the one to take of my dog's remains after he was shot in the head.
Slaughterhouse five
28-03-2007, 21:39
even if my dog needed to be put down i would never be able to allow him to be shot. just couldnt do it. Vet is the only way i would even be able to somewhat stand it.
Luporum
29-03-2007, 02:03
I don't know about you, but I would not want to be the one to take of my dog's remains after he was shot in the head.

That will be our burden and not his. All I want is for him to go as peacefully as possible given he despises any stranger my father believes it would be best to do it ourselves.

Over the last few hours he's gone completely blind so tomorrow around five I made the call to send for the vet.
Kbrookistan
29-03-2007, 02:09
The vet. I wasn't there when my beloved kitty was put down (she had arthritis), but as much as it would have hurt me to see her go, I regret that I missed it. And I agree that the IV would be much more humane than a gun.

Now I'm crying a little. Lucy was my baby, we got her when I was very little. :(
New Stalinberg
29-03-2007, 02:12
I have hip dysplasia , I hope my parents don't put me down.

Honestly though, it's your call.

I havn't had to deal with either of my kitties being in that much pain and suffering, so I honestly couldn't tell you what to do.

Do what you feel is best.
Karakachan
29-03-2007, 02:42
My dogs hate the vet, and none of them know what a gun even is. This old one can barely see at all. I honestly don't think the last thing he wants to see is another guy in a white coat getting ready to stab him with things.

He has a nasty problem with vets. His first vet would get really abusive to him when he would start crying. It wasn't until I heard the vet yelling at him that I ran in there wanting to tear the fucker's tongue out through his neck.

I don't think I can bear hearing cry as he's being put to sleep. At least at my pop's house he'll feel comfortable with the people he loves before the end.

Until I read this paragraph, I was all for taking him to the vet. But now, I don't know. I can certainly undersand your concern.

An quote from Robert Heinlein came to mind, as spoken by Lazarus Long: "When the need arises — and it does — you must be able to shoot your own dog. Don't farm it out — that doesn't make it nicer, it makes it worse." Now, Lazarus didn't mean this literally, but it is food for thought.

Best option, have a vet come to the house.

If that's not a choice, I don't know. I don't envy your decision.

Good luck...
Ashmoria
29-03-2007, 02:53
I have hip dysplasia , I hope my parents don't put me down.

Honestly though, it's your call.

I havn't had to deal with either of my kitties being in that much pain and suffering, so I honestly couldn't tell you what to do.

Do what you feel is best.

if your parents start talking about taking you to live out in the country on a farm where you can run around all you like....
New Stalinberg
29-03-2007, 05:43
if your parents start talking about taking you to live out in the country on a farm where you can run around all you like....

I'm offended. You do realize I can't run right? :rolleyes:

Sooner or later I'll probably end up like this (http://www.gooddogaquatic.com/images/Jackie%20wheelchair.jpg).
Soviestan
29-03-2007, 06:21
A pistol just seems wrong. And messy. Do it the right way, take him to the vet and I'm sorry your for loss.
Texoma Land
29-03-2007, 06:40
He's been suffering from violent seizures and hip dysplasia for the last few years. Lately he's taken a turn for the worse. Once every half hour he goes into a fit, which is the most painful thing I have ever seen. Then he'll wake up moaning in pain from the pain in his haunches, which just about brings me to tears anytime I hear him.

Is he terminally ill? Can he not be treated with medications/therapy? Is he unable to take care of his basic bodily functions? If yes, then he should probably be put to sleep by his vet.

However, I've lived with chronic intractable pain and disability for the last 24 years. I simply can't do many of the things I'd like to do. And from personal experience, I can tell you it's much better to live in pain than it is to roll over and die. If the only reason you are doing it is just because he's in pain and it upsets you to see it, please reconsider. Life is still well worth living even in pain and disability.
Pirated Corsairs
29-03-2007, 06:54
First of all, my sincerest sympathies to you. It's never easy, putting an animal down. We had to put my first dog down when I was in the eigth grade, one that we'd had since a few months before I was born. That dog was my best friend, and seeing his pain over the final years of his life nearly killed me. He had arthiritis and diabetes, so he had to get insulin injections every day. We eventually had to put him down he was in so much pain. I remember, the day I walked home from the bus, knowing what I was likely to find... and when I opened the door, I just knew.

I regret that I couldn't have been there with him, but I do know he died peacefully at the vet. My dad told me about the ride over there, he had his head out the window, enjoying one last ride despite the pain.

Again, I'm so sorry for what you're having to do. I have tears in my eyes just thinking about it right now, 5 years later. :(
Relyc
29-03-2007, 06:54
Im glad you have the courage to eve make the choice. :(

I let my Cat waste away of liver complications. She only ever complained when we tried to force-feed here (The vet said some cats can overcome and recover if they eat).

The last days she could barely move, I never actually pet her-she looked so diseased- but others would so I was at least glad for that. On the day she died the cat "who could barely stand" somehow made it off a second story porch, across a yard and over a high fence. We found her when the neighbors dogs started yipping at something (they didn't actually touch her.) She was wrapped in a blanket and taken inside. Im not sure she wanted to be found.

Also

when I was a kid I kept a very lovable cocker spaniel for a few years but when we moved to a new place (rental) He couldn't come inside and I wouldnt go out there to his chain because he jumped so much and smelled bad. He lived out there almost alone (I wouldn't even let him jump on me or pet him when I fed him :( ) for a few years until we finally let him out of his chain when he got cataracts. He just disappeared one day, but I'm sure he got hit by a car.

Ah, this stuff still makes me feel like a monster.
Nova Ica
29-03-2007, 07:26
I remember when I had to put down my little Yorkie, Penny down. In September.
She was mentally ill and for some reason just started attacking the other dogs, we had to keep her seperated, but I knew I had to put her down when she attacked me and ripped a chunk of skin off my leg. The vet was easy, he put her to sleep, she didn't feel a thing.. It is sad though and I miss her very much. I'd give anything to see her again one day :(
Luporum
29-03-2007, 11:38
If the only reason you are doing it is just because he's in pain and it upsets you to see it, please reconsider. Life is still well worth living even in pain and disability.

8 years is fairly old for a german sheppard.

At this point he can only sit in one spot of the house and we have to clean him up whenever he relieves himself, hand feed him (ever hand feed a blind dog, it hurts), and his medication exchanged his sporadic violent siezures into frequent shakings. He said it's only a matter of days before a big seizure will damage his brain so badly that he'll basically be unable to live. He's happy beside my bed right now, so at last his last day will be good.
BackwoodsSquatches
29-03-2007, 12:33
Im so very sorry your friends time has come.
I put my dog, whom I had for 15 years down this November.
It was by far the hardest thing I ever had to do.

I held him in my arms as he went, and I assure you it was so quick I barely realized it happened. It took less than 20 seconds, and that includes the time it took for the injection, wich by the way, is a single injection.
It was perfectly painless, and the dogs feel nothing. Its a rapid overdose of barbituates, and they simply drift right off to sleep, and seconds later, their heart stops.

When you have a dog for that long, they cease to be pets and become family. I could no more shoot my dog than I could a brother, or a parent.
They devote thier entire lives to thier owners, and I feel the only thing I could do to repay that loyalty, was to ease his passing when his quality of life diminished.

He would do the same for you.

"If you would make the most of your money, take it and buy a pup. You will have purchased Love, unconditional."
-Rudyard Kipling.
Carisbrooke
29-03-2007, 13:03
I am so sorry for your poor dog. My dog was 16 years old when we had to have her put to sleep, I had her for my 7th birthday and she had been my friend and companion for all that time. I was totally distraught at her loss, but we all new that the time had come for her to leave us, and that really we had been keeping her going for our own sake and not hers. (her last couple of months were sad, she became less able to move, was in pain at times and her back legs often gave way on her) The vet came to our home, she was out in the garden laying under her favorite tree, he went over and petted her, gave her a quick shot that did not even make her flinch and she just drifted away. I am now sitting here sobbing like it was yesterday. We buried her in the garden and planted a rose bush. I can not bear to think of anyone shooting a dog, I don't even know anyone who owns a gun, but I am guessing that you are in America, as I am sure that it would be illegal in the UK to shoot a dog.
Sarkhaan
29-03-2007, 16:46
Sorry to hear that.

I'd say the vet...you can be right next to your dog, which, for many, means alot.

Also, spoil him rotten for his last day. Maybe go buy his favorite treats, rub his belly...let him know he's loved.
Jeruselem
29-03-2007, 16:51
Poor dog. Use the vet, using a gun isn't very nice and bits of your dog everywhere is not very desirable either.
Luslyvania
29-03-2007, 16:56
Either way is quick. I'd lean toward the vet just because it seems like less chance the animal would feel any pain. Whatever you decide it's got to be hard to lose your dog.

I agree, on all points. Both methods are fast, but I would also suggest the vet, for the same reason, and it will be hard losing this dog, as it is losing any pet.
CapitaPLC
29-03-2007, 17:00
Leave it in your car with all the windows up on a hot day. I got that advice from the RSPCA during a summer poster campaign - 'Dogs die in hot cars' -Saved me £40 in vets bills when he got distemper.
Futuris
29-03-2007, 17:09
Leave it in your car with all the windows up on a hot day. I got that advice from the RSPCA during a summer poster campaign - 'Dogs die in hot cars' -Saved me £40 in vets bills when he got distemper.

You know, that really doesn't help. It's inhumane because the dog will feel pain in the form of a lot of heat (I know my German Shepherd is always hot since he's the long-haired kind and has a lot of fur). And when it comes to parting with a dog that's been around in good times and in bad for 8 years, that dog would probably mean more than 40 Euro.
Luporum
29-03-2007, 17:33
Leave it in your car with all the windows up on a hot day.

Why is it I feel the urge to cram you into an oven and set it for 220° F.

I got that advice from the RSPCA during a summer poster campaign - 'Dogs die in hot cars' -Saved me £40 in vets bills when he got distemper.

That's why.
Aelosia
29-03-2007, 17:50
By gun? Jesus.

Why don't you try by grenade? It's going to be fast and less painful, specally if you get the animal to swallow the thing, a perhaps is a bit expensive due to the fact that grenades are expensive. Of course, you can always replace the grenade with a TNT charge. At least perhaps it will be funny to watch for you...guys, or whatever you are.

Of course, if you are prepared to do it by gun, you are also prepared to clean up the mess.

If you own a SUV, you can try also by car, but please be sure you get the head of the poor thing under one of your wheels.
CapitaPLC
29-03-2007, 18:11
Why is it I feel the urge to cram you into an oven and set it for 220° F.



That's why.

I never mentioned anything about an oven. You have to cook in them - you can't have sunday roast stinking of burnt dog hair. Dogs don't feel pain like people do. And if you think they do then wouldn't it be less cruel to kick the dog to death than spend ages agonising over how you are going to end it's suffering?
Luporum
29-03-2007, 19:00
I never mentioned anything about an oven. You have to cook in them - you can't have sunday roast stinking of burnt dog hair. Dogs don't feel pain like people do. And if you think they do then wouldn't it be less cruel to kick the dog to death than spend ages agonising over how you are going to end it's suffering?

Why did you ever get a dog to begin with?
CapitaPLC
29-03-2007, 19:01
Why did you ever get a dog to begin with?

Dogs aren't only for pets. Mine was a gun dog - used whilst hunting.
Luporum
29-03-2007, 19:06
Snip.

You fucking piece of shit how dare you think less of me because of my father's wishes. If I could he'd live forever, but that's not realistic.

I expected something along your lines to show up, but I didn't realize how angry it would make me.

Dogs aren't only for pets. Mine was a gun dog - used whilst hunting.

They're nothing to be used at all.
JuNii
29-03-2007, 19:07
My new vet just passed down the suggestion of putting my 8 year old German Sheppard, Max, to sleep.

He's been suffering from violent seizures and hip dysplasia for the last few years. Lately he's taken a turn for the worse. Once every half hour he goes into a fit, which is the most painful thing I have ever seen. Then he'll wake up moaning in pain from the pain in his haunches, which just about brings me to tears anytime I hear him.

I've buried three pets in my life, one just a few weeks ago, but this is probably the most heart wrenching.

Now my parents, who are seperated, are fighting over on how he should be put down. My mom wants it done at the vet's, but my father wants it done at his house via pistol.

The decision has been passed down to me for some goddamned reason, so now I just need some advice.
what ever choice you make... you have both my sympathies and condolences. :(
CapitaPLC
29-03-2007, 19:10
You fucking piece of shit how dare you think less of me because of my father's wishes. If I could he'd live forever, but that's not realistic.

I expected something along your lines to show up, but I didn't realize how angry it would make me.



They're nothing to be used at all.


It was a working dog. Used to retreive shot game. Same as sheep dogs are used to round up sheep. Same as rat dogs were used to kill rats. Dogs were mainly working animals before the teary eyed lot got their soft mittened hands on them.
JuNii
29-03-2007, 19:10
Dogs aren't only for pets. Mine was a gun dog - used whilst hunting.

a friend of mine has dogs for Boar hunting. the highest mortality rate are the dogs trained to grab and hold onto the Boar's snout. he feels the loss of each dog that dies and he does take care of them.

he doesn't consider them pets, but he thinks of them as hunting pals.
Aardweasels
29-03-2007, 19:17
By gun? Jesus.

Why don't you try by grenade? It's going to be fast and less painful, specally if

Give me a break. Using a gun is as painless a way to go for an animal. The injection, in many cases, does not just "put them to sleep". Often it's a crueler method than most. I've seen dogs put down by lethal injection in the past, and it can be excrutiatingly painful for them.

Naturally, you're not told this by your vet. They couldn't sucker money out of you that way.
Bitchkitten
29-03-2007, 19:19
Make sure the vet you use puts him to sleep first. One time when I had to have a cat put down (I've done it twice) the vet simply gave him the shot that stopped his heart. I had to hear him gasping and he died staring at me. If they put him to sleep first he doesn't suffer. I really half ass vets who don't believe animals can suffer the same way we do. You have no idea how many vets I've had to ask for painkillers from after having an animal in for surgery or a broken bone. Rant over.
Snafturi
29-03-2007, 20:22
Leave it in your car with all the windows up on a hot day. I got that advice from the RSPCA during a summer poster campaign - 'Dogs die in hot cars' -Saved me £40 in vets bills when he got distemper.

October3... Not the most creative troll. Certainly prolific.
Snafturi
29-03-2007, 20:23
Give me a break. Using a gun is as painless a way to go for an animal. The injection, in many cases, does not just "put them to sleep". Often it's a crueler method than most. I've seen dogs put down by lethal injection in the past, and it can be excrutiatingly painful for them.

Naturally, you're not told this by your vet. They couldn't sucker money out of you that way.

That's why any decent vet knocks them out first and lets you hold them while they go.
Luporum
29-03-2007, 20:26
Dogs were mainly working animals before the teary eyed lot got their soft mittened hands on them.

They are more than tools still, and you are less than human for believing such. I'm sorry if you're too lazy to catch the very thing you shoot down, pathetic.

Teary eyed lot? Buddy you don't know me, or can't even pretend to imagine what I've done in my life. I can call you with great accuracy a sociopath.

I truly pity you for not being able to find the least bit companionship in a dog.
Neo-Erusea
29-03-2007, 20:31
Dude, I think your dad just wants to shoot the dog for the fuck of it.

I'd go with the vet. Less messy... And you don't have to be the one to kill the poor thing either.
Klfs
29-03-2007, 20:33
Definitely the vet.

Had to put my first cat to sleep, one injection and he just went to sleep and that was it.

Take the shot and if you aren;t perfect or either flinches it could be hours of torment, to say nothing of the dogs anguish casued by the fact that "you hurt me."
Snafturi
29-03-2007, 20:33
They are more than tools still, and you are less than human for believing such. I'm sorry if you're too lazy to catch the very thing you shoot down, pathetic.

Teary eyed lot? Buddy you don't know me, or can't even pretend to imagine what I've done in my life. I can call you with great accuracy a sociopath.

I truly pity you for not being able to find the least bit companionship in a dog.

He's just being a troll. Not to worry. The modhammer already came down on him. Him being October3.
Luporum
29-03-2007, 23:31
He's gone.

The vet called and said they wanted to give him a final anaylsis before we went through with it. Son of a bitch passed away before we even got there. The vet came out to the car and told me it was only a matter of time anyway. His seizures caused massive brain damage to the point where he had no motor skills or even cognitive processes for the last few days.

The second time in three weeks I've had to bury a close friend, but what hurt the most was my father tearing up and saying: "I don't have the heart for this anymore."

My house feels so much quieter.
JuNii
29-03-2007, 23:41
He's gone.

The vet called and said they wanted to give him a final anaylsis before we went through with it. Son of a bitch passed away before we even got there. The vet came out to the car and told me it was only a matter of time anyway. His seizures caused massive brain damage to the point where he had no motor skills or even cognitive processes for the last few days.

The second time in three weeks I've had to bury a close friend, but what hurt the most was my father tearing up and saying: "I don't have the heart for this anymore."

My house feels so much quieter.
:(
Sel Appa
29-03-2007, 23:59
That's a hard one. I could argue or both sides. I'd probably throw it off a cliff as is the preferred method for assumed natural selection.
Luporum
30-03-2007, 00:16
That's a hard one. I could argue or both sides. I'd probably throw it off a cliff as is the preferred method for assumed natural selection.

Get lost troll.
Aelosia
30-03-2007, 00:43
You fucking piece of shit how dare you think less of me because of my father's wishes. If I could he'd live forever, but that's not realistic.

I expected something along your lines to show up, but I didn't realize how angry it would make me.

You are quite the sensitive man now, when you are pondering placing a round through your dog's head? Yourself?

Just the idea sickens me, and if it is your father's idea, yet you are taking that into consideration, and you are asking for advise to online people!

I am sorry that a dog has such an hypocrite owner. I hope he find a release in death, through a painless method, less....gruesome than his own owner firing a bullet at him.

EDIT: Best thing that could have happened. I'm sorry for your loss, in any case. And your father is...A pretty weird and strange man.
UN Protectorates
30-03-2007, 00:45
That's a hard one. I could argue or both sides. I'd probably throw it off a cliff as is the preferred method for assumed natural selection.

Hey dude, what's with you? You're usually a lot more mature than this.
JuNii
30-03-2007, 00:46
.
to be fair, that's how animals were put down before Vets.

of course one way would be to tranq him and shoot him while he's sleeping... :(

But the points moot now... so... truce?
Aelosia
30-03-2007, 00:48
to be fair, that's how animals were put down before Vets.

of course one way would be to tranq him and shoot him while he's sleeping... :(

But the points moot now... so... truce?

Edited for that purpose.

To be fair, before psychiatry was developed, we gave electro shock and cold water baths to the mentally unstable patients. We're not doing that anymore, and I guess society have advanced a bit, to make an analogy.

Truce.
Luporum
30-03-2007, 01:07
You are quite the sensitive man now, when you are pondering placing a round through your dog's head? Yourself?

Just the idea sickens me, and if it is your father's idea, yet you are taking that into consideration, and you are asking for advise to online people!

I am sorry that a dog has such an hypocrite owner. I hope he find a release in death, through a painless method, less....gruesome than his own owner firing a bullet at him.

EDIT: Best thing that could have happened. I'm sorry for your loss, in any case. And your father is...A pretty weird and strange man.

You persume me to be a bad guy because I decided to do the method at the vet. You judge me and my heartbroken father as barbarians because we had to say goodbye to a friend.

Death by a bullet is instantaenous, and only a burden on those who have to fire it. My father grew up in a time when that was the only option, and he explained that it was always instant. However, it took its toll on him.

I asked for advice because the people on here are, in most cases, intellegent and have a great variety of experiences for many places. There is far more wisdom here than in all my friends combined.

You argue something you don't understand and you judge people you do not know.

I am not sad today because last night me and Max shared ice cream and sang to each other. He passed away with almost no pain. That is all I could have ever asked for.
Carisbrooke
30-03-2007, 17:13
I am sorry that you lost your friend.

:(
Ashmoria
30-03-2007, 17:34
I'm offended. You do realize I can't run right? :rolleyes:

Sooner or later I'll probably end up like this (http://www.gooddogaquatic.com/images/Jackie%20wheelchair.jpg).

i hate to break it to you but the post wasnt about you running around.

youre the one who broached the idea of your parents "putting you down". if you are easily offended, dont compare yourself to a dog.