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This is just a quick question for all of your NSG nerds.:p

Anyone who makes their horse a Senator deserves a visit from the nice men in white pants.

Being a nerd, I say Star Trek

Anyone who makes their horse a Senator deserves a visit from the nice men in white pants.

He probably did it to completely annoy the Senate. Which makes me want to take a few pointers from him in that area(In others-no freakin way, but come on! Trying to appoint a horse to the Senate just to piss off a bunch of senior citizens-that is gold).

He probably did it to completely annoy the Senate. Which makes me want to take a few pointers from him in that area(In others-no freakin way, but come on! Trying to appoint a horse to the Senate just to piss off a bunch of senior citizens-that is gold).

He certainly loved that horse...

He certainly loved that horse...

I do not pry into the personal lives of people and their... "loved ones".

I merely love to piss people off in the most obscure way. However, sending pictures of one and their "loved ones" during a "bad"(I.E.Best possible) time is definitely within my bounds. Some may call it evil, however "evil" would be more along the lines of blackmail. I'm just sick. :D

He probably did it to completely annoy the Senate. Which makes me want to take a few pointers from him in that area(In others-no freakin way, but come on! Trying to appoint a horse to the Senate just to piss off a bunch of senior citizens-that is gold).Yes, yes that is gold.:D

Yet, he didn't he try to make the horse a counsol?:eek:

Yes, yes that is gold.:D

Yet, he didn't he try to make the horse a counsol?:eek:Oh don't be so ridiculous. If he made the horse Consul then the horse would be in charge of the armies, and presumably a General. If the horse were a General then he would have to ride around on a horse. Who ever heard of a horse riding a horse. I think things would get quite messy very quickly.

Oh don't be so ridiculous. If he made the horse Consul then the horse would be in charge of the armies, and presumably a General. If the horse were a General then he would have to ride around on a horse. Who ever heard of a horse riding a horse. I think things would get quite messy very quickly.Nope it would, be something like...

In despotic Rome, horse counsol no you ride, but counsol horse ride you.

Nope it would, be something like...

In despotic Rome, horse counsol no you ride, but counsol horse ride you.Pfft, get it right.

In Imperial Rome, Horse Consul rides you baby.

Who ever heard of a horse riding a horse. I think things would get quite messy very quickly.

There are so, so many absolutely terrible jokes I could make from this that I just don't know where to begin. :eek:

Oh don't be so ridiculous. If he made the horse Consul then the horse would be in charge of the armies, and presumably a General.In Republican Rome, certainly. But under an Emperor? As far as I know, the consulate was more or less stripped of its more significant powers, making the title an honorific rather than a meaningful military function.

Since some horses certainly look a great deal better than many political dignitaries (and also tend to be a lot more educated), I don't see why they'd make poor consuls :P

Having a horse in government institutions isn't as weird as it seems. After all, the US House of Representatives has a horse as its House Majority Leader currently.

Having a horse in government institutions isn't as weird as it seems. After all, the US House of Representatives has a horse as its House Majority Leader currently.And let's not forget Margaret Beckett, currently UK Foreign Secretary...

In Republican Rome, certainly. But under an Emperor? As far as I know, the consulate was more or less stripped of its more significant powers, making the title an honorific rather than a meaningful military function.

Since some horses certainly look a great deal better than many political dignitaries (and also tend to be a lot more educated), I don't see why they'd make poor consuls :PJeebus, did my post really demand such a serious response? I know that about the Consuls and every other senate office. The whole point was to get to the horse riding the horse and provide a set up for someone else to make a dirty joke.

There are so, so many absolutely terrible jokes I could make from this that I just don't know where to begin. :eek:Then why haven't you made them yet. I'm calling your bluff. :p

Nero. Nothing like playing the lyre while half of Rome is burning down by your command. And having your mother put to death.

Nero. Nothing like playing the lyre while half of Rome is burning down by your command. And having your mother put to death.The first part acutally was not true, in fact he acutally did a pretty good job with the fire, till he built his giant palace.

Yet, the last thing was pretty dang true.

And having your mother put to death.Would that have been the mother that was herself just a tiny bit too generous with the arsenic bottle? :rolleyes:

Caligula.

When youre so depraved and twisted, even the other Romans think you ought to be drug to the ground and stabbed 100 times, youre a legendary sick fuck.

Tiberius as well.

Caligula.

When youre so depraved and twisted, even the other Romans think you ought to be drug to the ground and stabbed 100 times, youre a legendary sick fuck.

Tiberius as well.What's wrong with Tiberius? I thought he was an able emperor who just didn't deal with grief very well.

And why is Claudius up there. He seems to have been able too.

What's wrong with Tiberius? I thought he was an able emperor who just didn't deal with grief very well.

And why is Claudius up there. He seems to have been able too.

I think Tiberius is/was a much maligned character, more sinned against than sinning. Excellent general; competent administrator; no PR skills. Many of the nasty stories about him were put about by his enemies and don't stand up to scrutiny. Also, the fact that he appointed Pontius Pilate probably didn't endear him to later historians.

Claudius was a bit dodgy, despite Robert Graves' best efforts to give him a moral outlook which the modern reader might find acceptable.

Still, they both seem to have done a reasonable job of running the show.

What's wrong with Tiberius? I thought he was an able emperor who just didn't deal with grief very well.

And why is Claudius up there. He seems to have been able too.

Claudius was a paranoid fellow and as I recall responsible for the death of Caligula's family.

He's also the person credited with making Caligula the sick fuck that he was.

Claudius was a paranoid fellow and as I recall responsible for the death of Caligula's family.

He's also the person credited with making Caligula the sick fuck that he was.

I thought both Tiberius and his family were the ones credited for making him a sick fuck, Claudius was just his uncle.

I thought both Tiberius and his family were the ones credited for making him a sick fuck, Claudius was just his uncle.

You are right - it's one of the many things Tiberius was blamed for. Whether that's a fair accusation or not is quite another matter.

None of the above. I call Augustus.

Now, a lot of people are going to say, "but wasn't he really competent and effective, and a good ruler?" To which I reply: Yes. That's the problem.

When Julius Caesar got himself elected Dictator for life, that was actually a good thing. Rome had destabilized; it needed a strong hand at the tiller to settle things down. And had Julius not been assassinated, he could have first served as that firm hand - and then died. The man was in his late fifties; the chance of his living more than another ten or so years was miniscule.

But when Octavian had dealt with the assassins and Marc Antony, he was only about 29 years old. He was to rule as Caesar for over forty years - longer than any other Roman Emperor.

By the time he finally died, no one in the Senate had been there before he came to power. Where the death of Dictator Julius Caesar would have been the signal for that august body to take control of Rome again, the death of Augustus Caesar merely indicated that another Emperor was needed.

Augustus was the end of the Roman Republic. And the Roman Empire, in the end was not strong enough to survive.

Caligula and Nero.

Augustus was the end of the Roman Republic.

Good for him.
What was the Republic after all? Nothing but an excuse for the ruling classes to bribe, bully and occasionally kill their way to the top.
Rome could not afford to be run in such a manner, hence Caesar nominated an heir. If he hadn't, then things would have gone downhill again, as they did after Sulla retired.

Good for him.
What was the Republic after all? Nothing but an excuse for the ruling classes to bribe, bully and occasionally kill their way to the top.
Rome could not afford to be run in such a manner, hence Caesar nominated an heir. If he hadn't, then things would have gone downhill again, as they did after Sulla retired.Well, the old system let my family dominate Rome for two decades, but after Ceaser we did basically control a province so either way it was good for us.:D

Augustus was the end of the Roman Republic. And the Roman Empire, in the end was not strong enough to survive.Well, in reality it did well for three hundred years after he died, but it stagnated in the end due to god knows how many reasons.

I liked the really perverted ones, like Caligula, who copulated with his guards in public. The guard who killed him was a frequent bed partner. As my theory goes, nothing good is born of sexual abuse.

I also like Nero, like how he killed his mother and married his man slave with himself dressed as the bride. Supposedly he burned the city, but I think that's a bit far-fetched, as even George Bush wouldn't bomb the towers.

jk, I love W. He's like a grandfather to me.

I also like Nero, like how he killed his mother and married his man slave with himself dressed as the bride. Supposedly he burned the city, but I think that's a bit far-fetched, as even George Bush wouldn't bomb the towers.Well, he did also try to literally make a woman out of him.

By the way you definately do not want the details.

Me sa, think some many pick poor Nero due to bad rep and ancient propaganda.:(