NationStates Jolt Archive


Plan B

Dexlysia
27-03-2007, 19:58
What should its legal status be?
What is your justification?
And what about people who refuse to sell it (if legal)?
Baratstan
27-03-2007, 20:00
Plan B?

EDIT: Oh yeah, the pill.

EDIT: The morning after pill
Icewire36
27-03-2007, 20:08
It should be accessible to everyone over the counter. You don't want unplanned pregnancies ruining peoples lives. the drug also can help gals control that time of the month as well as if it is too painful to bare allow them to control the pain.
Dempublicents1
27-03-2007, 20:09
Plan B should be available over the counter to anyone (as in, without a prescription), but should be kept behind the counter at a pharmacy so that the pharmacy can discuss its proper use with someone who needs it. In order to work properly, it needs to be taken as soon as possible, and the risks associated with it are low.

As for those who refuse to dispense it, that is their choice if and only if they own their own pharmacy and the licensing requirements in their area do not require it. If someone is employed by a pharmacy that carries it, they can either dispense it or expect to get fired. If an area decides that carrying Plan B will be a requirement for licensing a pharmacy, then any pharmacy must carry it. However, if a pharmacist owns his own pharmacy and the licensing requirements do not include it, he can certainly decide not to carry it at his establishment. He should expect, however, to lose business to anyone upset that he does not do so.
Dempublicents1
27-03-2007, 20:10
It should be accessible to everyone over the counter. You don't want unplanned pregnancies ruining peoples lives. the drug also can help gals control that time of the month as well as if it is too painful to bare allow them to control the pain.

Plan B is not the pill. It is a high dose of the same hormones found in birth control pills, but definitely should not be taken on a regular basis. It's purpose is to block fertilization or, barring that, block implantation in the event of rape or failure of other birth control measures.
Ashmoria
27-03-2007, 20:11
what dem said.

i could say it again but i wouldnt say it better.
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 20:12
It should be fully available. The pharmacist should be able to verify that the woman does indeed want it. A simple oral question would suffice.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 20:13
Available OTC to anyone who needs it.

Want to cut down on abortions?
Here's a way.
Baratstan
27-03-2007, 20:13
It should be accessible to everyone over the counter. You don't want unplanned pregnancies ruining peoples lives. the drug also can help gals control that time of the month as well as if it is too painful to bare allow them to control the pain.

And stop the painters coming in on their wedding day.
Dexlysia
27-03-2007, 20:14
And stop the painters coming in on their wedding day.
...

I hope I'm misinterpretting this.
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 20:16
And stop the painters coming in on their wedding day.

Are you sure you have the right thread?
Baratstan
27-03-2007, 20:19
Are you sure you have the right thread?

I don't mean tiny little painters literally going up her vagina and making her moody y'know.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 20:21
And stop the painters coming in on their wedding day.

So it's also a scheduling device?
Neesika
27-03-2007, 20:22
Available OTC to anyone who needs it.

Want to cut down on abortions?
Here's a way.

To the zealots, this is abortion.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 20:22
I don't mean tiny little painters literally going up her vagina and making her moody y'know.

:confused:

I have no idea what that means, but it's hilarious.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 20:24
To the zealots, this is abortion.

By that measure all birth control is abortion.
Dempublicents1
27-03-2007, 20:26
So it's also a scheduling device?

Plan B isn't. I think the second post in the thread is confusing people - making them think that Plan B and the birth control pill are the same thing.

And the birth control pill can be a scheduling device, if you use it that way. I reset my cycle so that I wouldn't have to deal with it on my wedding day.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 20:29
Plan B isn't. I think the second post in the thread is confusing people - making them think that Plan B and the birth control pill are the same thing.

And the birth control pill can be a scheduling device, if you use it that way. I reset my cycle so that I wouldn't have to deal with it on my wedding day.

I was being flip. I wasn't expecting the "painters" comment.
Ifreann
27-03-2007, 20:29
:confused:

I have no idea what that means, but it's hilarious.

I take it I'm not the only one picturing little men in overalls carrying paint cans and brushes and a couple of ladders climbing into a vagina.
Neesika
27-03-2007, 20:30
I take it I'm not the only one picturing little men in overalls carrying paint cans and brushes and a couple of ladders climbing into a vagina.

Not any more you're not.
Soheran
27-03-2007, 20:31
Wow. Near-unanimity.
IL Ruffino
27-03-2007, 20:33
It's worse than heroin. Ban it.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 20:34
I take it I'm not the only one picturing little men in overalls carrying paint cans and brushes and a couple of ladders climbing into a vagina.

You forgot the little white caps and the roller brushes with the extra long handles.
Gravlen
27-03-2007, 20:38
Are you sure you have the right thread?

Let's see... He took a right by moderation, and the went down to *mumble*
Kyronea
27-03-2007, 20:42
Plan B should be available over the counter to anyone (as in, without a prescription), but should be kept behind the counter at a pharmacy so that the pharmacy can discuss its proper use with someone who needs it. In order to work properly, it needs to be taken as soon as possible, and the risks associated with it are low.

As for those who refuse to dispense it, that is their choice if and only if they own their own pharmacy and the licensing requirements in their area do not require it. If someone is employed by a pharmacy that carries it, they can either dispense it or expect to get fired. If an area decides that carrying Plan B will be a requirement for licensing a pharmacy, then any pharmacy must carry it. However, if a pharmacist owns his own pharmacy and the licensing requirements do not include it, he can certainly decide not to carry it at his establishment. He should expect, however, to lose business to anyone upset that he does not do so.

See, this is why I respect you, Dempublicents, because you quite the intelligent woman. I agree with you completely, especially when it comes to firing people who refuse to dispense it if they do not own the pharmacy.
Compulsive Depression
27-03-2007, 20:47
Futuristic cyborgs' nuclear-missile submarines should be strongly regulated!

*Reads thread*

Oh.
Um, what Dem said.
Ifreann
27-03-2007, 20:50
Futuristic cyborgs' nuclear-missile submarines should be strongly regulated!

*Reads thread*

Oh.
Um, what Dem said.

The 2nd Amendment clearly states that I have the right to cyborg operated nuclear-missile submarines!
Compulsive Depression
27-03-2007, 20:52
The 2nd Amendment clearly states that I have the right to cyborg operated nuclear-missile submarines!

Nah, they're un-American. You have to have the Ace instead.
Ifreann
27-03-2007, 20:55
Nah, they're un-American. You have to have the Ace instead.

All I really want is a nuke launching phallus.
Shabyc4111
27-03-2007, 20:55
I think it should be available to anyone, as long as they understand it, and i also think it should be limited, like they do with certain cough suppressants.
G-Max
27-03-2007, 20:56
All drugs should be available to anyone with no interference from "Big Brother" whatsoever.
Dempublicents1
27-03-2007, 20:57
See, this is why I respect you, Dempublicents, because you quite the intelligent woman. I agree with you completely, especially when it comes to firing people who refuse to dispense it if they do not own the pharmacy.

*blush* =)

Thanks! Good to see some agreement around here sometimes. =)
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 21:00
I think it should be available to anyone, as long as they understand it, and i also think it should be limited, like they do with certain cough suppressants.

What would be the point in limiting it? It's not limited in my state. I can go get three packs/day from planned parenthood. There hasn't been any problems.
Great Jazland
27-03-2007, 21:04
You wouldnt get it being perscribed as its EMERGANCEY CONTRACEPTION. Which is differn't to "the pill".

Your not sposed to take it about more than 3 times in your life time as it increases your risk of getting a misscarriage/becomeing infertile.
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 21:05
What would be the point in limiting it? It's not limited in my state. I can go get three packs/day from planned parenthood. There hasn't been any problems.

There is a potential issue with abuse through the extraction of key medicinal ingredients, such as with Sudafed. The active ingredient, pseudoephedrine, is used in methamphetamines.

I'm not in favour of limiting access, I'm only giving background information based on what I know.
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 21:05
You wouldnt get it being perscribed as its EMERGANCEY CONTRACEPTION. Which is differn't to "the pill".

Your not sposed to take it about more than 3 times in your life time as it increases your risk of getting a misscarriage/becomeing infertile.

And what are you basing this on? Provide a source or two.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 21:07
You wouldnt get it being perscribed as its EMERGANCEY CONTRACEPTION. Which is differn't to "the pill".

Your not sposed to take it about more than 3 times in your life time as it increases your risk of getting a misscarriage/becomeing infertile.

If it's so dangerous it wouldn't be freely given OTC in Oregon.
Compulsive Depression
27-03-2007, 21:09
You wouldnt get it being perscribed as its EMERGANCEY CONTRACEPTION. Which is differn't to "the pill".

I might be misunderstanding here, but you do get it prescribed in some places. Here in Blighty would be an example; you can buy it over-the-counter, but it is almost certainly cheaper, if not completely free, if you get a prescription.
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 21:12
There is a potential issue with abuse through the extraction of key medicinal ingredients, such as with Sudafed. The active ingredient, pseudoephedrine, is used in methamphetamines.

I'm not in favour of limiting access, I'm only giving background information based on what I know.

What's in it? It hasn't been a problem in my neck of the woods, so this is new to me.

Edit: I looked up the ingredients: Each Plan B 100 mg tablet contains 0.75 mg of levonorgestrel [18,19-Dinorpregn-4-en-20-yn- 3-one-13-ethyl-17-hydroxy-, (17α±)-(-)-]. The inactive ingredients present are colloidal silicon dioxide, potato starch, gelatin, magnesium stearate, talc, corn starch, and lactose monohydrate.
Is it the steriod (levonorgestrel)?
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 21:24
YYour not sposed to take it about more than 3 times in your life time as it increases your risk of getting a misscarriage/becomeing infertile.

List of side effects:
Get emergency medical help if you have any of these signs of an allergic reaction: hives; difficulty breathing; swelling of your face, lips, tongue, or throat.
Call your doctor at once if you have severe pain in your lower stomach or side. This could be a sign of a tubal pregnancy (a pregnancy that implants in the fallopian tube instead of the uterus). A tubal pregnancy is a medical emergency.
Less serious side effects may be more likely to occur, such as:
· nausea, diarrhea, or stomach pain;
· breast pain or tenderness;
· dizziness, tired feeling;
· breast pain or tenderness;
· changes in your menstrual periods; or
· headache.

Source (http://www.drugs.com/MTM/levonorgestrel.html)
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 21:25
Edit: I looked up the ingredients:
Is it the steriod (levonorgestrel)?

Anything that can be extracted and converted into a stimuli can be a problem. However, it is no reason to limit access.

I realise that my post was slightly off topic, but I maybe should have quoted tht other person's post as well.
Gravlen
27-03-2007, 21:29
All I really want is a nuke launching phallus.

:eek:

*Hides*
Snafturi
27-03-2007, 21:29
Anything that can be extracted and converted into a stimuli can be a problem. However, it is no reason to limit access.

I realise that my post was slightly off topic, but I maybe should have quoted tht other person's post as well.

I was just interested. Like I said, that's new info to me. Sad and scary.