NationStates Jolt Archive


If you could pick one historical maniac to rule the world...

Hakeka
27-03-2007, 06:35
...Who would it be?

Poll coming. Personally, I pick Stalin. At least he wouldn't let me starve. Unless I spoke up. :p
Congo--Kinshasa
27-03-2007, 06:37
"Emperor" Bokassa.


*runs*
Siap
27-03-2007, 06:39
Cosimo "Il Vecchio" Medici or Vlad the Impaler
Aerion
27-03-2007, 06:42
Emperor Napoleon

Because he was actually a GOOD ruler, he formed one of the first legal codes, preserved equality, etc. He just had a bad rep because he was a good conqueror, but hey...
Winstanleys Diggers
27-03-2007, 06:47
Emperor Napoleon

Because he was actually a GOOD ruler, he formed one of the first legal codes, preserved equality, etc. He just had a bad rep because he was a good conqueror, but hey...
any legal code formulated around the turn of the 19th century can hardly be considered one of the first.
Barringtonia
27-03-2007, 06:49
I quite like Mr G. Khan

He essentially said surrender and you can all live or fight and you'll all die.

He kept his word as well
Delator
27-03-2007, 06:49
Ivan the Terrible

...at least life wouldn't be boring! :D
Winstanleys Diggers
27-03-2007, 06:50
i'd go with mad king ludwig the 2nd.... sure he'd run the world into debt builting hundreds of superfruity gigantic castles everywhere.... but would that really be so bad?
The Pictish Revival
27-03-2007, 07:05
Nero. Sure he was a bit bonkers and had a few people executed, but he mostly had the sense to leave the running of the empire to his advisors. Even the story about him playing the fiddle while Rome burned is simply untrue.
Cannot think of a name
27-03-2007, 07:07
Since he was brought up in a different thread, I'll go with Emperor Norton I.
Anti-Social Darwinism
27-03-2007, 07:39
The Empress Dowager of China
South Lizasauria
27-03-2007, 08:24
...Who would it be?

Poll coming. Personally, I pick Stalin. At least he wouldn't let me starve. Unless I spoke up. :p

MEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE
Redwulf25
27-03-2007, 08:29
If you're defining "maniac" loosely enough I pick Emperor Joshua Norton. He would be a fun leader.
The Scandinvans
27-03-2007, 08:36
I nominate a group of Vikings.
Zanzarkanikus
27-03-2007, 08:37
Hunter S. Thompson, if only to piss him off.

Other than than, I agree with the Emperor Norton faction.
Sessboodeedwilla
27-03-2007, 08:39
I'd pick Hitler because, even though he's a lunatic he can unlike dubya rebuild an economy single handedly, and if you don't fit the profile of super soldier, then you won't have to fight in a war you can't win:sniper:
Anti-Social Darwinism
27-03-2007, 08:59
I'd pick Hitler because, even though he's a lunatic he can unlike dubya rebuild an economy single handedly, and if you don't fit the profile of super soldier, then you won't have to fight in a war you can't win:sniper:

Towards the end of the war Hitler was fielding old men and young boys, and none of them was a "super soldier"
Risottia
27-03-2007, 09:29
In order:
Napoleone Bonaparte (he wasn't a real maniac, though)
Nero (at least, he supported arts)
Ludovico Il Moro (he thought that the Duchy of Milan could beat France, but he brought Leonardo to Milan)
Moustachio Stalin (he fucked up CCCP a lot, though)
Risottia
27-03-2007, 09:34
I'd pick Hitler because, even though he's a lunatic he can unlike dubya rebuild an economy single handedly, and if you don't fit the profile of super soldier, then you won't have to fight in a war you can't win:sniper:

Hitler was a superb con artist and a total jackass at economy and war. One of the WORST world leaders ever. He managed to have Germany lose Prussia, half of Brandemburg, Silesia... and some millions of german men and women, while giving Germany the award for the best organized genocide in history.

If I had to choose in the fascist field, I'd choose Franco: he was a bloody bastard, but, at least, he didn't plunge Spain into WW2.
If I had to choose between dictators, I'd choose The Great Diktator Adenoyd Hynkel, aka Charlie Chaplin.

HAIL HYNKEL!
:D
Bolondgomba
27-03-2007, 09:40
I'd choose Stalin, mainly so I could have the pleasure of killing the bastard myself.
Allanea
27-03-2007, 09:45
...Who would it be?

Poll coming. Personally, I pick Stalin. At least he wouldn't let me starve. Unless I spoke up. :p

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor
Eve Online
27-03-2007, 12:08
Tamerlane
German Nightmare
27-03-2007, 12:11
I quite like Mr G. Khan
He essentially said surrender and you can all live or fight and you'll all die.
He kept his word as well
I see we would be riding together in his name. ;)
I'd pick Hitler because, even though he's a lunatic he can unlike dubya rebuild an economy single handedly, and if you don't fit the profile of super soldier, then you won't have to fight in a war you can't win:sniper:
Oooh, look, he didn't even forget the sniper smiley!
(...)
If I had to choose between dictators, I'd choose The Great Diktator Adenoyd Hynkel, aka Charlie Chaplin.

HAIL HYNKEL!
:D
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Jello Biafra
27-03-2007, 12:17
Caligula. At least I'd be having lots of sex.
MostEvil
27-03-2007, 12:21
Nero. Sure he was a bit bonkers and had a few people executed, but he mostly had the sense to leave the running of the empire to his advisors. Even the story about him playing the fiddle while Rome burned is simply untrue.

Particularly as fiddles hadn't been invented at the time.
MostEvil
27-03-2007, 12:24
Caligula. At least I'd be having lots of sex.

I'll go with that one
Eve Online
27-03-2007, 12:25
I'll go with that one

But it would be sex between brother and sister...
Cameroi
27-03-2007, 12:26
cameroi feels we've had enough of brutes, we prefer a somewhat different sort of whimsy. thus we nominate, and we're not neccessarily labling them maniacal by doing so, rather if anything, most failed to get the notice and acclaim they deserved precisely by being too sensible, such wortheys as sun yet sen, komemiko and pioter kropotkin. there are many others i could add to THIS list.

in short, we cannot immagine wanting to live in a world dominated by anyone who whould want to dominate it. or dominated at all for that matter.

but then if it were up to us it would have been limurs and red pandas who would have been givin the big brains instead of those silly hairless monkeys.

=^^=
.../\...
Ultraviolent Radiation
27-03-2007, 12:26
Another vote for Norton (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Emperor_Norton) I guess.
Kanabia
27-03-2007, 12:28
Hm....a chance to screw up the world, eh... Elizabeth Bathory.

Why settle for less?
Maldorians
27-03-2007, 12:34
Albert Einstein!
[NS::::]Olmedreca
27-03-2007, 12:37
...Who would it be?

Poll coming. Personally, I pick Stalin. At least he wouldn't let me starve. Unless I spoke up. :p

Was it some unsuccesful attempt to make a joke, or you really don't know that millions starved to death in Stalin's USSR?
Risottia
27-03-2007, 14:00
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holodomor

from the very same article:

It is documented that around 300,000 Ukrainians out of a population of about 30 million were subject to these policies in 1930-31 and Ukrainians composed 15% of the total 1.8 million 'kulaks' relocated Soviet-wide.[13]


that is: 1% of Ukrainian population deported. 15% of the kulaks in Ukraine, I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think that Ukraine had a population of about 10% to 20% of the total population of Soviet Union. So, we can blame idiotic soviet policies about agriculture, but I doubt that there was an extermination project behind that - the whole CCCP was bound to suffer famine.

Trofim Lysenko was the responsible of ALL agricultural policies of CCCP in the '30s. "He is responsible for the shameful backwardness of Soviet biology and of genetics in particular, for the dissemination of pseudo-scientific views, for adventurism, for the degradation of learning, and for the defamation, firing, arrest, even death, of many genuine scientists" said famous soviet physicist Sakharov. And, guess what? Comrade Lysenko was an Ukrainian (as his family name clearly shows). Very interestingly, in the Holodmor article Lysenko doesn't show up...

Trust modern Ukraine to milk famine it for all it's worth, they need to create an anti-russian identity: totally forgetting that 1) Ancient Rus' capital was Kiev and 2) Stalin was Georgian and Lysenko Ukrainian.
Risottia
27-03-2007, 14:04
Hm....a chance to screw up the world, eh... Elizabeth Bathory.

Why settle for less?

Wasn't she a "vampire"? Iirc she had an habit to take baths in human blood.:cool:
The blessed Chris
27-03-2007, 14:23
Stephen Fry, Duh.
[NS::::]Olmedreca
27-03-2007, 17:34
from the very same article:

It is documented that around 300,000 Ukrainians out of a population of about 30 million were subject to these policies in 1930-31 and Ukrainians composed 15% of the total 1.8 million 'kulaks' relocated Soviet-wide.[13]


that is: 1% of Ukrainian population deported. 15% of the kulaks in Ukraine, I don't remember the exact numbers, but I think that Ukraine had a population of about 10% to 20% of the total population of Soviet Union. So, we can blame idiotic soviet policies about agriculture, but I doubt that there was an extermination project behind that - the whole CCCP was bound to suffer famine.

Trofim Lysenko was the responsible of ALL agricultural policies of CCCP in the '30s. "He is responsible for the shameful backwardness of Soviet biology and of genetics in particular, for the dissemination of pseudo-scientific views, for adventurism, for the degradation of learning, and for the defamation, firing, arrest, even death, of many genuine scientists" said famous soviet physicist Sakharov. And, guess what? Comrade Lysenko was an Ukrainian (as his family name clearly shows). Very interestingly, in the Holodmor article Lysenko doesn't show up...

Trust modern Ukraine to milk famine it for all it's worth, they need to create an anti-russian identity: totally forgetting that 1) Ancient Rus' capital was Kiev and 2) Stalin was Georgian and Lysenko Ukrainian.

Ridiculous.
Firstly about deaths(from that same article): "The estimates for the number of deaths due to famine in Ukraine (excluding other repressions) vary by several millions and numbers as high as 10 million are sometimes cited."
Also map of population decline fits here well: http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/1/17/Holodomor_Famine_map.jpg

Now about that Lysenko, he isn't mentioned in wikipedia article? And that is your argument aganist Ukrainians? News flash: "wikipedia is edited by people from all nationalities, there are also Russian nationalists and hardline stalinists." How more pathetic can you become?

And finally Stalin was indeed Georgian. Still Georgia has had no problems with considering the 1932-1933 famine as an act of genocide.
Mattybee
27-03-2007, 17:41
Emperor Norton I, Emperor of the United States and Protector of Mexico.
The Scandinvans
27-03-2007, 17:45
Caligula. At least I'd be having lots of sex.Have fun with his little minnows.:eek:
Kanabia
27-03-2007, 18:57
Wasn't she a "vampire"? Iirc she had an habit to take baths in human blood.:cool:

That's the one. :)
Curious Inquiry
27-03-2007, 18:59
I'm sorry, but it has to be Lunatic Goofballs. Why settle for less, indeed?

Oh, and ... where's the damn poll!@!@!?????
Drunk commies deleted
27-03-2007, 19:02
New Jersey's own Underdog Lady.

http://i13.tinypic.com/2ufx6z7
Rhursbourg
27-03-2007, 19:15
Charles VI of France
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 19:24
Bloody Mary, Queen of Scots.
Ariddia
27-03-2007, 19:28
"Emperor" Bokassa.


My father actually met him.

He worked as a receptionist at the Ritz for a while when he was young. Showed Bokassa up to his room once.


Bloody Mary, Queen of Scots.

"Bloody Mary" (i.e., Mary I of England) wasn't Mary, Queen of Scots. They were two different people.
Kryozerkia
27-03-2007, 19:33
"Bloody Mary" (i.e., Mary I of England) wasn't Mary, Queen of Scots. They were two different people.
They aren't? Damnit! Screw it then, I pick Hunter S Thompson as well; at least drugs would be legal! ;)
United Beleriand
27-03-2007, 19:37
"Bloody Mary" (i.e., Mary I of England) wasn't Mary, Queen of Scots. They were two different people.Yep. The latter lost her head, the former took a lot of heads...
Lame Bums
27-03-2007, 20:08
...Who would it be?

Poll coming. Personally, I pick Stalin. At least he wouldn't let me starve. Unless I spoke up. :p

Stalin had these little "Five Year: Everybody Dies" plans.... he'd kill everyone, you too.

Personally, I'd go for Mussolini...talked a big show but people knew he was a boob...which is what politicians usually are anyway.
The Pictish Revival
27-03-2007, 22:08
Have fun with his little minnows.:eek:

You are confusing Gaius 'Caligula' with Tiberius. Plus, that's probably another made up story, in a similar category to the one about Nero, the fiddle, and Rome burning.

PS: A hearty 'well done' to whoever observed that the fiddle didn't exist then.
OcceanDrive
27-03-2007, 22:13
Emperor Napoleon

Because he was actually a GOOD ruler, he formed one of the first legal codes, preserved equality, etc. He just had a bad rep because he was a good conqueror, but hey...1st Napoleon.. of course.

Far in 2nd place, I would pick the rulers of China.. whoever they are.. they have successfully built (from a poor peasant country) into an irresistible World Powerhouse.
Chloralon
27-03-2007, 22:45
Moshe Dayan
Zarakon
27-03-2007, 23:25
Emperor Joshua Norton.

It just seems like the world would be a very fun place to live.
Boonytopia
28-03-2007, 13:51
Screaming Lord Sutch (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MRLP).