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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444586&in_page_id=1770&ct=5


This may well be the stupidest idea I have ever heard. :headbang:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444586&in_page_id=1770&ct=5


This may well be the stupidest idea I have ever heard. :headbang:
To Davep, Beverley, UK: the European convention on Human Rights and the Human Rights Act are nothing at all to do with the EU and they haven't been mentioned in the article. But then, since when have facts got in the way of an irrational right wing rant?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444586&in_page_id=1770&ct=5


This may well be the stupidest idea I have ever heard. :headbang:

:eek: is speechless...

Isn't this the basic premise of open prisons?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444586&in_page_id=1770&ct=5


This may well be the stupidest idea I have ever heard. :headbang:

When you find an article in the Daily Mail, I'd recommend searching for the topic in google news to see what others news sites have to say about it. The Daily Mail isn't the most reputable of newspapers.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=444586&in_page_id=1770&ct=5


This may well be the stupidest idea I have ever heard. :headbang:
As far as I'm concerned a prisoner's rights are non-existent. He forfeited them when he committed the crime and was found guilty.

I read a story some years back that Canadian prison guards were no longer allowed to wear protective clothing into the prison population on the theory that it would somehow give the prisoners the false idea that they weren't trusted.


EDMONTON -- Corrections Canada won't let guards at maximum security prisons wear stab-proof vests because it sends a confrontational "signal" to prisoners. "If you have that kind of presence symbolized by (a stab-proof vest), you're sending a signal to the prisoner that you consider him to be a dangerous person," said Tim Krause.

I don't see what's so bad about this.

It's not like the prisoners are given the key to the front door so they can leave the prison facility. Neither can they lock themselves in their cells without the prison guards being able to open the door.

What it does, however, is render the prisoners able to secure their personal belongings and lock the door so they're safe(r) from other inmates.

If that is the stupidest thing you've ever heard, I wonder how informed you are about things that go on in the world.

A prisoner does not forfeit all of their rights when they are locked up, such as their right to safety which the state has to guarantee.

The Daily Mail isn't the most reputable of newspapers.

Meh, I'm not familiar with U.K. papers. I got the link Fark.com, so lol.

Meh, I'm not familiar with U.K. papers.

Well, as an aid to memory, the Daily Mail is the one that supported the nazis before Britain declared war on them.

I got the link Fark.com, so lol.
Yeah, Fark links can be a good source of debate topics. I've seen them appearing on NSG a few times.

yeah yeah we would all like to castrate jaywalkers and behead those who spit on the sidewalk. but the point of a program like this is to get better results when prisoners are released--as they almost certainly will be.

dont let your lust for punishment get in the way of rehabilitation. you dont want men leaving prison more dangerous than they were when they went in.

As far as I'm concerned a prisoner's rights are non-existent. He forfeited them when he committed the crime and was found guilty.

I read a story some years back that Canadian prison guards were no longer allowed to wear protective clothing into the prison population on the theory that it would somehow give the prisoners the false idea that they weren't trusted.
I'm uncomfortable with the idea of rights somehow being conditional, even if it is the condition of good behaviour. In any case, in the UK nobody has any rights, insofar that the Human Rights Act is just ordinary legislation. And in this case, nobody even referred to any legally enforceable right anyway. Saying 'I have the right to XYZ' or 'he has the right to XYZ' doesn't make it so.

Isn't this the basic premise of open prisons?

Open Prison? YAY! :D

*does the oxymoron dance!*

I wonder what's for dinner. *looks* Mmm! Jumbo shrimp in wine vinegar! Yummy! :)




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Open Prison? YAY! :D

*does the oxymoron dance!*

I wonder what's for dinner. *looks* Mmm! Jumbo shrimp in wine vinegar! Yummy! :)




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