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these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

What the smurf are you smurfing about?

MMO's are an addiction. Try something less so, like heroin, or cocaine.

these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

I am addicted to Runescape as of now :)

I am addicted to Runescape as of now :)

You'll get tired of it soon, it's nothing but a grind fest and the players are too Noobish for my taste.

I just got WoW and it's great, but my graphics cards sucks really bad. There's an error that keeps coming up about a driver that stopped working within a few minutes of playing every time. It's unfortunately easy for me to stop playing. :(

Bring on Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning!

Bring on Warhammer Online: Age of Reckoning!

QFT! I've been sober since Galaxies, and I can't wait to fix that.

these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

I tried, and rejected WoW. My 'sin' is City of Heroes. (And the darkside of the same coin, City of Villains).

You'll get tired of it soon, it's nothing but a grind fest and the players are too Noobish for my taste.

people always ask me to be their gf..so i hide in the wilderness and attack noobs.

people always ask me to be their gf..so i hide in the wilderness and attack noobs.

Yea, we can now see why female players have male characters... :rolleyes:

QFT! I've been sober since Galaxies, and I can't wait to fix that.
Just hand me an axe, and lets go collect some Greenskin skulls :D

Dungeons and Dragons is not a massively multiplayer online game. It's a tabletop RPG.

And what the hell is ND?

Edit: LOL I FAIL
Ha ha. Will someone teach me to read, please?

And what the hell is ND?
Neverwinter.......DNights?

Neverwinter.......DNights?

lol. I thought that too.

Eh. I've tried WoW and EQ, the latter being my preference.

I used to play maplestory for a few years until I got bored and quit. I haven't played any mmorpg since December.

I tried, and rejected WoW. My 'sin' is City of Heroes. (And the darkside of the same coin, City of Villains).

Brother!

My latest jewel is my lvl 44 thugs/traps mastermind. :)

MMORPGs are addicting.

I went from:

Ranarok, when it was free. I played for a few weeks, then it stopped being free.

After that I played Earth and Beyond for... 7 months total? One time I just logged on and got a month for free, that was cool. Then those EA bastards closed it down.

I guess around 10 months later I got into Ragnarok again. It was great. It was just 7 or 8 dollars for 30 hours, and I recall buying 4 of those. All and all I'd say I played from Feb 2005 to August 2005...

Then my friend did something terrible. He got me just like how coke dealers get their victoms. "It's free! It's a free 10 day trial! I got it! You'll love it!" It was WoW...

I tried going back to Ragnarok, but my guild had died, which meant playing the game wasn't nearly as much fun.

Then it began...

I played WoW From August to around February, taking a one month break between. I said, "No more! I'm done!" But I didn't mean it. I ended up buying another month sometime during the summer.

My total playtime for Ronotoan, the level 43 Troll Rogue was like 8 days.

I didn't feel like blowing any more money, so my friend, who wasn't using his account anymore, gave it to me, and eventually, after another month or so, I just got bored and quit.

Thus ends the reign of MMORPG terror over my life. At least for now anyway...

I play Guild Wars. 'Tis fun.

Dungeons and Dragons is not a massively multiplayer online game. It's a tabletop RPG.

And what the hell is ND?

DnD Online (http://www.ddo.com/)


n00b ;)

Bleh, online games. I prefer my gaming to be an antisocial activity.

Bleh, online games. I prefer my gaming to be an antisocial activity.

Oh, there's lots of that in MMO's :D

Oh, there's lots of that in MMO's :D

Granted.

Fine - I prefer not to deal with people, specifically not having to deal with level 40 players camping at the my levelling grounds and killing me repeatedly for kicks. Because that's what happened in WoW. I also tried Ultima Online years ago, and that was just as bad. People are shitheads, and moreso in online games because they can get away with it and get a hoot out of ruining someone else's fun.

And I like games that are good on their own merits and don't depend on other people to make the grinding levelling process bearable. Click...click...click...clickclickclick....click...repeat....

And single player games don't cost me $80 for the product plus $40 for a two month subscription. That's bullshit. I had to pay $120 before I could even play WoW, and I didn't even know if it was going to be worth that kind of investment. Most online games are exactly the same.

Granted.

Fine - I prefer not to deal with people, specifically not having to deal with level 40 players camping at the my levelling grounds and killing me repeatedly for kicks. Because that's what happened in WoW. I also tried Ultima Online years ago, and that was just as bad. People are shitheads, and moreso in online games because they can get away with it and get a hoot out of ruining someone else's fun.

And I like games that are good on their own merits and don't depend on other people to make the grinding levelling process bearable. Click...click...click...clickclickclick....click...repeat....

And single player games don't cost me $80 for the product plus $40 for a two month subscription. That's bullshit. I had to pay $120 before I could even play WoW, and I didn't even know if it was going to be worth that kind of investment. Most online games are exactly the same.

The only game I still play is City of Heroes. Yes, you have to buy the product. Yes, there is a monthly subscription ($15). But, a lot of that stupid noob-bashing stuff just doesn't happen. They have also (thus far) avoided the stupid arms-race mentality that things like WoW are plagued with. My initial setup cost me about $35... less than a new game for my PS2.

I was into FFXI online. I played it for months, even had a close encounter of the [GM] Dave kind. It was all my uncle's fault to. He got me into it. Then, he got into an accident. Died instantly. I kinda stopped wanting to play after that, it reminded me too much of him. :(

The only game I still play is City of Heroes. Yes, you have to buy the product. Yes, there is a monthly subscription ($15). But, a lot of that stupid noob-bashing stuff just doesn't happen. They have also (thus far) avoided the stupid arms-race mentality that things like WoW are plagued with. My initial setup cost me about $35... less than a new game for my PS2.
Yeah, well, if it's all the same to you, I think i'll pass...

I purchased WoW only after glowing recommendations from many people, too...

EQ Rallos, the first, the last, the only one that will ever count.

The only game I still play is City of Heroes. Yes, you have to buy the product. Yes, there is a monthly subscription ($15). But, a lot of that stupid noob-bashing stuff just doesn't happen. They have also (thus far) avoided the stupid arms-race mentality that things like WoW are plagued with. My initial setup cost me about $35... less than a new game for my PS2.

My problem with CoH was the character creation is too cool. I made tons of toons, but never actually played them :(

Yeah, well, if it's all the same to you, I think i'll pass...

I purchased WoW only after glowing recommendations from many people, too...

Hey, I played WoW for fifteen minutes, and I haven't even so much as touched it since. It was the same boring tripe that every other MMO is.

At least my money wasn't completely wasted --- my brother still plays it. Hey, whatever floats his boat...

I play Guild Wars. 'Tis fun.

I liked the game. But for some reason the games hates my computer. I have more than enough in the specs department, but it gives me the blue screen of death. :(

My problem with CoH was the character creation is too cool. I made tons of toons, but never actually played them :(

Hehehe. I have over 100 alts! :p

Runescape fails/wins depending on your opinion because of its forums. Come on, this is absolute gold (http://forum.runescape.com/forums.ws?23,24,531,41308573).

Mine was Eve Online (the game, not the generalite :p ), which is a good game. It has an interesting economy. I finally got fed up with the training after a while (about fourteen months), and bored that there weren't any new things for me to do by myself, and fleet combat was dull.

WoW I played for an hour or two at a friend's house. Got bored. Didn't see the point. Got fed up with level 6 people wandering up and challenging me to a fight (Why? I'm two levels lower, I'll get slaughtered. Go away and leave me alone!), the lack of elocution on display in the chat, and that you had to stand and queue to get bosses; it just made it feel really silly. Oh, and that when you died you just got back up again as if nothing had happened - maybe some faffing around as a ghost, can't remember, but no actual dying.

I think Eve spoiled me because of its size, freedom, relative harshness and lack of level n >> level n-1.

But Pirates of the Burning Sea might be interesting, if I can be bothered. I do generally prefer SP games.

DnD Online (http://www.ddo.com/)


n00b ;)

Honestly, if you really got into D&D, the DnD Online is probably cheaper.

these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

Get a life.
That will kill you too. :D

But Pirates of the Burning Sea might be interesting, if I can be bothered. I do generally prefer SP games.


That is the one game I've ever really looked forward to. Last I heard, the official release is June 07 and it will be the greatest game, ever. :D



Otherwise, Dark Age of Camelot was my addiction for years, and I just recently canceled my accounts, but only due to financial reasons. In the 3 - 4 years that I've played that game, I've canceled, maybe, five or six times, but I've always succumbed to "withdrawal" and returned just a few short months (or less) later.


I do still have an EVE Online account open, but I really don't play. I just log on every so often to train a skill.


I've also played Silkroad Online, which was ok, wasn't terrible or anything, but was decent. That lasted about a week or two.


I have tried Guildwars, back during one of those special open beta events, and thought it was a pretty damn cool game. I might consider getting it sometime this year to see if I'd still like it.



All in all, Pirates of the Burning Sea will be THE ultimate game for me in 3 months...:cool:

I have tried Guildwars, back during one of those special open beta events, and thought it was a pretty damn cool game. I might consider getting it sometime this year to see if I'd still like it.
Depends when you played, but I wouldn't suggest it (and that is after playing Guild Wars since before the first game released).

All in all, Pirates of the Burning Sea will be THE ultimate game for me in 3 months...:cool:
Wth is this game? Havn't heard of it. Age of Conan: Hyperbion Wars is the only RPG coming out that sounds any good to me.

Coming Soon: Marvel Universe Online FTW! :eek:

Ultima Online is the best MMO ever made.

Ultima Online is the best MMO ever made.

That was my first and my first love. In fact, Ultima Online brought me here. *nod* :)

I think Eve Online is better.

I liked the game. But for some reason the games hates my computer. I have more than enough in the specs department, but it gives me the blue screen of death. :(
:( That sucks. If you ever get it working again though, let me know and we can do some quests or missions.

Wth is this game? Havn't heard of it. Age of Conan: Hyperbion Wars is the only RPG coming out that sounds any good to me.


Official Site:

http://www.burningsea.com/index.php



Trailers, gameplay footage, interviews:

http://www.flyinglab.com/forums/showthread.php?t=19446



Video Preview:

http://www.tentonhammer.com/index.php?module=ContentExpress&func=display&ceid=534


Pirates of the Burning Sea Captain's Log #8 from rpgvault on IGN.com

http://rpgvault.ign.com/articles/774/774328p1.html



MMORPG.com article:

http://www.mmorpg.com/gamelist.cfm?setview=features&loadFeature=1168&gameID=68&bhcp=1


Another article from mmorpg.com:

http://www.morpg.com/gamelist.cfm?gameId=68&setView=features&loadFeature=1146&bhcp=1

Kanabia, it sounds like you want to play Guild Wars to me. :D

Granted.

Fine - I prefer not to deal with people, specifically not having to deal with level 40 players camping at the my levelling grounds and killing me repeatedly for kicks. Because that's what happened in WoW. I also tried Ultima Online years ago, and that was just as bad. People are shitheads, and moreso in online games because they can get away with it and get a hoot out of ruining someone else's fun.Dungeons are instanced - your team gets your own map of the area, to complete at your lesuire, and PvE has absolutely ZERO PvP in it. You don't have to depend on people being nice. They simply can't gank you if you don't want them to.

And I like games that are good on their own merits and don't depend on other people to make the grinding levelling process bearable. Click...click...click...clickclickclick....click...repeat....Guild Wars' level system only goes up to level 20. This level is obtainable within hours of installing. All weapons, armor, and loot stats are capped and maxed versions are available extremely easily. It may not look as good as the more expensive ones, but you're still going to be doing the same amount of damage with your sword as the next guy. The game is skill based, so it's sort of similar to chess in that regard. You don't have as many options for roleplaying, (like fishing, etc), but if you want to avoid idiots you can play the ENTIRE game by yourself, using NPC henchmen. If you like to play with friends, you just join a Guild (or create one yourself, inviting only those whom you choose).

And single player games don't cost me $80 for the product plus $40 for a two month subscription. That's bullshit. I had to pay $120 before I could even play WoW, and I didn't even know if it was going to be worth that kind of investment. Most online games are exactly the same.Guild Wars Chapter 1 costs ~$35 dollars and is stand alone. Chapter 2 costs ~$40 and is stand alone. Chapter 3 costs ~50 and is stand alone. You can combine all three into one account if you wish, being able to play all areas with all of your characters. All told, I think I've spent $160 dollars on the game total, over two years of playing it. It has ZERO monthly fee; you don't even need a credit card.

I think you should try it out. :D

I can't say anything as I spent all day Saturday playing SWG. :(

Dungeons are instanced - your team gets your own map of the area, to complete at your lesuire, and PvE has absolutely ZERO PvP in it. You don't have to depend on people being nice.
Wrong. Without Nightfall you have to depend on people being nice to get a party, and that is in a game where the majority of players follow the releases and even then half the areas have crap for any occupants, and people are not nice.

but if you want to avoid idiots you can play the ENTIRE game by yourself, using NPC henchmen.
Henchmen are incompetent (and more so with each update because Arena Net seems to work from copies of pre-updates and bugs just reappear later, mainly friendly AI is retarded). Heroes are only remotely less incompetent because you pick their skills, their weapons, their runes, and their abilities.

All told, I think I've spent $160 dollars on the game total, over two years of playing it. It has ZERO monthly fee; you don't even need a credit card.

I think you should try it out. :D
Then you have at least 14 hours of trial time per campaign in your trial booklets. Give them to him and let him try it out.

-snip-

I think you should try it out. :D


Well...maybe. If there was a demo, i'd be happy to...but I think it retails above $60 here, and I think that's too much of a gamble for me.

I've considered getting it before though, because it not having monthly fees is a huge plus.

The only MMORPG I play is Nexus War. I think I played Runescape for a little while, but got bored of it really quickly. I played Urban Dead too, but Nexus War is infinitely superior.

You will all play City of Heroes/Villains! I command it!

*begins twisting knobs and dials*

You will all play City of Heroes/Villains! I command it!

*begins twisting knobs and dials*

You'll give us a link first.

You'll give us a link first.

http://www.cityofheroes.com/

:)

http://www.cityofheroes.com/

:)

I have to spend money?

Not gonna happen.

Guild wars for the win! I happen to be an alliance leader in guildwars. Fun game. Very addicting and ALOT of fun. More then that though, I really enjoy the online community kind of vibe I get. I've met alot of cool people through guildwars, some of whom I'll be friends with for a long time to come. Fun game, cool people, free online game play. It's great.

My first was Earth and Beyond, which was visually outstanding and the music rocked.

Unfortunately that was the intro.

The game itself was still a real treat for the eyes but I was disappointed that there was no PvP at least initially. It's not that I go looking to gank people, but if you're gonna set up a backstory with violently competitive factions, then members of those factions shuold be able to do more than give each other dirty looks. So eventually I got bored enough to quit.

Came back a while later to play SWG. Very cool, worked my arse off on my Bounty Hunter character. 3 days later, they nerfed the process so it took 1/10th the time. I stuck with it until...

EQ2 came out and I got hooked. Once again I had an issue with the non-PvP environment but the game was otherwise fun enough to keep my interest. Now there's PvP :)

Later, my faincee and I tried WoW. We played for about 3 hours and then lost all interest. I fail to see why people crow so much about the graphics in that game. They're not very high grade. Pretty, yes. Artistic, yes. Colorful, yes. Exciting? meh. My Paladin ran on what looked like the carpet from a preschool classroom with flowers printed on green. In SWG or EQ2 when my character runs through foliage, he actually runs through knee high foliage that looks way better.

Last month we tried DDO (The Dungeons & Dragons MMO) and it was fun, great graphics and all, but not worth switching over from EQ2 to play it, and there's NO WAY we're doing both.

What's annoying is that Sony is now raising the cost of the Access accounts from 25 to 30 bucks a month. (Because they're adding Vanguard to the list of games you can access. WTF? I don't have any plan to play it.) We're cancelling our Access accounts and in so doing, losing the extra 4 character slots you get in EQ2. Just can't justify the cost. I was also keeping my account alive in SWG with it but that's going to end too. Rarely played.

I have to spend money?

Not gonna happen.

Awww....

:(

Dungeons and Dragons is not a massively multiplayer online game. It's a tabletop RPG.

And what the hell is ND?

Actually, there is a DnD MMO out now. It's based on the Eberon world, if I'm not mistaken.

Zing. :eek:

Awww....

:(

What can I say? I'm tight as a ducks arse.

Actually, there is a DnD MMO out now. It's based on the Eberon world, if I'm not mistaken.

Zing. :eek:

It is. bleh.

What can I say? I'm tight as a ducks arse.

Kinky. :)

Wrong. Without Nightfall you have to depend on people being nice to get a party, and that is in a game where the majority of players follow the releases and even then half the areas have crap for any occupants, and people are not nice.He said he didn't care to play with stupid people. He can avoid them if he wants. QED. The only forced PvP is one match in Prophecies at the very beginning, over in about 2 minutes. Factions and Nightfall do not have forced PvP. There is, I think, one mission that has you playing with another team (however, they don't matter too much - I've finished it with the entire other team dead). If they suck, it doesn't kill you.


Henchmen are incompetent (and more so with each update because Arena Net seems to work from copies of pre-updates and bugs just reappear later, mainly friendly AI is retarded). Heroes are only remotely less incompetent because you pick their skills, their weapons, their runes, and their abilities.I agree, henchmen are not as good as decent humans. However, he's not concerned about avoiding decent humans, he's wanting to avoid stupid people. He can do that.


Then you have at least 14 hours of trial time per campaign in your trial booklets. Give them to him and let him try it out.Good idea. Kanabia, you have a TG.

Good idea. Kanabia, you have a TG.

Thanks. :) I'll download it whilst i'm in bed. Hopefully it'll be done by tomorrow. :p

I used to play Kingdom of Loathing everyday. That petered out after I realized that I could only get some much meat (money) and never break the ceiling from middle class to very rich (there is no in between in that game IMHO).

However, the constant new stuff is nice.

<snip>
I wonder if we've ever crossed paths in GW... which campaign do you play?

these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

Heh. I play Transport Tycoon.

these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

no one told you you HAD to join them all... :p

I started my internet addiction with Nationstates.

Moved to Runescape for two years, thought I'd never be able to kick the habit.

All of a sudden I discovered youtube and online animation and I can't be bothered to play mmo's anymore. Which is a shame since my subscription doesn't end till August and I still enjoy quests, but I get bored the moment I log-in.

Watched too much anime and I am now back to nationstates.

I didn't even finish my trial month in WoW, the game's just so... uninteresting. Playable, sure, but after several years of Dark Age of Camelot, it just made me go 'meh'. I really don't know what the hype is all about - I've read in mags that the graphics are terrific, and there were several 'new' features 'never seen in an MMORPG before'. Except the graphics look way to cartoon-ish, and many of those features were already tried & true in other games... Game mags just tend to ga insane if the name Blizzard is mentioned.

That being said, DAoC stopped being fun for me either, somewhere between the 1000. and 2000. patch/expansion pack, and after too many friends had left the game. However, the version after the first expansion was one very good game.

I'm ready to try out a new one. So far have only played EQ and WoW. Been reading up on some recently, but haven't made up my mind yet.

Runescape had fun quests, and it was funny to laugh at people in it. But it got boring realllly quickly.

I played Puzzle Pirates for a bit. That would have been fun, if there were more than 5 puzzles with which you did everything, making it a bit dull.

I have high hopes for the upcoming Star Trek MMORPG thats supposedly coming out next year, if they do it right it will be very fun. (http://www.startrekonline.com/)

Heh. I play Transport Tycoon.
Another tycoon, fantastic!

OpenTTD or TTDPatch?

Yeah, well, if it's all the same to you, I think i'll pass...

I purchased WoW only after glowing recommendations from many people, too...

Hey, it's nothing to me. I play it when I have the time, and don't feel the need to evangelise it. I've only mentioned it because of this thread, and in response to your comments.

If what puts you off the MMORPG genre is what you claim... then it would be rude of me to not comment on the MMORPG I play that doesn't do the things you don't like...

But, whatever - I'll still be playing it anyway.

I'll admit to playing runescape again after a year's hiatus.

My problem with CoH was the character creation is too cool. I made tons of toons, but never actually played them :(

This is true - there is a risk of alt-itis. :) My favourite part has always been the design and concept part, also.

But, when you get a product or two you really like, they do tend to get played - it's just a matter of finding your fit.

I know people who have a ballpark figure hundred toons (or more, I actually know one or two that pay for a second subscription), and only ever get any progress on any character through 'power-levelling' (which I've never seen the appeal for). I have less than a dozen, all on one server, and play two or three of them regularly.

Hehehe. I have over 100 alts! :p

:D Speak of the Goofball....

Hehehe. I have over 100 alts! :p

LOL and I thought I was an altaholic ;)
My favourite CoH toons were Roboclown and the Panty Avenger :cool:

I didn't even finish my trial month in WoW, the game's just so... uninteresting. Playable, sure, but after several years of Dark Age of Camelot, it just made me go 'meh'. I really don't know what the hype is all about - I've read in mags that the graphics are terrific, and there were several 'new' features 'never seen in an MMORPG before'. Except the graphics look way to cartoon-ish, and many of those features were already tried & true in other games... Game mags just tend to ga insane if the name Blizzard is mentioned.

That being said, DAoC stopped being fun for me either, somewhere between the 1000. and 2000. patch/expansion pack, and after too many friends had left the game. However, the version after the first expansion was one very good game.

"Classic" servers: no ToA and buffs are ranged :cool:
They've updated a lot of graphics lately, too.
I went back after a recent WoW patch made my box BSOD on login. They say it's my box. Funny, not problems with anything else I run . . . Blizz CS is just that, CS :eek:

I finally got my Guild Wars to run on my laptop..I thank Rameria for giving me the inspiration :p. If she hadn't said that she played, well, I don't know if i would have take the time to re install it :p

these things are killing me!!!
rune scape!
WoW!
D&D!
ND!
why wont it stop!why!:mad: :mad: :headbang:

If you are one of the many who has a friend who became a MMorg junkie or is just sick and tired or annoyed with people being obsessed with MMorg's to a sad degree I know how you feel....:(

Uhhhh WoW and Runescape.....*shivers*

:( <click me , I'm sad) (http://wowisadrug.ytmnd.com/)

Has anyone played Vanguard yet, is it any good?

Right now I am playing MxO, and I like it, I mean the missions are repetitive and after you reach 50 (max level in MxO) there's not much to do in terms of End Game context (You could farm at a construct) but I do like the storyline, and I like the fact that it's really more of an RP game than a PvP game.

I've tried Runescape, but it's just so damn boring, and the noobs!

LOL and I thought I was an altaholic ;)
My favourite CoH toons were Roboclown and the Panty Avenger :cool:

Hard to pick a favorite, but my most interesting are Field Effect(a living force field) and Nonexistent(a void brought magically to life as the ultimate assassin). *nod*

I finally got my Guild Wars to run on my laptop..I thank Rameria for giving me the inspiration :p. If she hadn't said that she played, well, I don't know if i would have take the time to re install it :p
Glad to be of service. Hope you're having fun with it! :)

Another tycoon, fantastic!

OpenTTD or TTDPatch?

Yes! TTD rocks! I run linux though and the link to the rpm files for OpenTTD has been down for ever... I really want to play it -arrgh!

Another tycoon, fantastic!

OpenTTD or TTDPatch?

Open. Ya gotta love how many grfs there are. And there's a patch for trams now. I post occasionally on the TT-forums as Johnny B Goode. (I'm the n00b buried in the pile of shit)

*snip* City of Heroes.*snip* They have also (thus far) avoided the stupid arms-race mentality that things like WoW are plagued with.

Interesting, how did they do it? Please don't tell me it's the players-fight-monsters-only trick... balancing that is easy.

"Classic" servers: no ToA and buffs are ranged :cool:

I know, but if friends have gone sparse on my main server, playing on a new one would mean they'd all be gone... and frankly, I just didn't feel like starting another main character. I've played most classes for a couple of levels, but at some point, the novelty wears off (in the end, a mage is a mage, for example. At least after the third one or so).

Neverwinter.......DNights?

9 dragons
nine dragons

Interesting, how did they do it? Please don't tell me it's the players-fight-monsters-only trick... balancing that is easy.

Pretty simple, really; there is almost no "stuff". There are very few items in the game that I would categorize as 'rare' or 'valuable', and those few items are not game breakingly better than what everybody else has.

I used to play Runscape everyday then got addicted enough to upgrade to members... then some guy scammed 2mil from me and I've quit ever since. Which was September of 2006.

If I could meet him again I'd thank him for making me quit o_O

Now I'm left with a bunch of valuable stuff I wanna give to noobs for some reason.

Interesting, how did they do it? Please don't tell me it's the players-fight-monsters-only trick... balancing that is easy.

There are player-versus-environment areas... and there are player-versus-player areas. You start in PvE areas, but can travel fairly freely into and out of the PvP playgrounds as you wish.

The big problem I encountered in WoW is the way it has you harvesting parts, desperately acquiring levels, and then trying to make kick-ass equipment that most players can't 'afford'.

CoH has got around that problem by (thus far) simply avoiding any of those pursuits. The things that can be gathered, can be gathered by anyone - no special skills - you just have to find them/do the mission, whatever.

It is rumoured that CoH is about to acquire an 'invention' mechanism - but - from what has been suggested so far, even this 'invention' system avoids the 'arms-race' mentality, by making the 'parts' equally available to everyone that does the right missions or kills the right enemies, by maiing the 'recipes' much the same, and by giving alternate routes to both those things.

They have suggested they have avoided any 'invention skills', also - the only mechanism that will be required is collecting bits, collecting recipes, and then getting to an invention lab (either in the universities, from what I gather, or in your group's base) to build something cool.


I still have one or two complaints - some of the archetypes are much 'better' than others, especially in PvP. Someone with a minimum amount of skill, running a 'spines/regen scrapper' can waste almost any other archetype, if they can get a single hit.