NationStates Jolt Archive

Do you eat them? Why or why not? Poll coming.

Aw, too bad you didn't make it a multiple choice poll.

Yes for poll options 1 & 2.

But I can't afford to buy it all the time. I try to, though. ;)

LXIX!!!

Not really, the stuff is too expensive and too little quality control for the most part.

Besides, I've never seen anything stating that all the stuff that organic growers claim is legit.

Aw, too bad you didn't make it a multiple choice poll.

Yes for poll options 1 & 2.

But I can't afford to buy it all the time. I try to, though. ;)

LXIX!!!

Dammit. I'm terrible at making polls.

i might do if i could afford them. although my mum (who is very qualified to comment) assures me that the whole organic crops thing is a con and they still use harmful chemicals (including heavy metals), just not the ones that are recommended against.

I chose "Don't Care" becuase I sometimes eat organic foods, but not always. *shrugs*

If it's available and not overly expensive.
It's certainly nice to see it catching on to the point that Producers and Supermarkets are realising the value of stocking organic produce. And not just in a tiny aisle by themselves either.
Organic juice is definitely nicer. And fortunately for myself, the local cafe not more than 3 minutes walk away from my place is organic vegetarian. Their smoothies are fantastic - as is their ginger mocha.

You can definitely tell the difference with organic chicken. It's fattier, has a different color and texture and generally tastes better.

So I do tend to buy organic for some things. But it's a taste issue not a hippy thing.

(Organic cheese is a bit of a waste of time IMO, but I'm not a big dairy eater so I could be wrong).

I buy locally, that's my big food decision. And generally yes, the produce and meat is organic. Right now the only meat I buy is chicken, and I'll get it either free range organic, or free range not-organic...both are good. The huge organic sections in most supermarkets these days doesn't really impress me, considering the fact that the label 'organic' is not nearly as stringent as people think.

Dammit. I'm terrible at making polls.
Aw, don't sweat it. Maybe next time.

But damn you for putting this here song in my head:

Jesus was a Capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes
Long hair, beard and sandles
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon we'd just nail him up
If he came down again
'Cause everybody's gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin' somethin' dirty decent folks can frown on
If you can't find nobody else, then help yourself to me
Eggheads cussing rednecks cussing
Hippies for their hair
Others laugh at straights who laugh at
Freaks who laugh at squares
Some folks hate the Whites
Who hate the Blacks who hate the Klan
Most of us hate anything that
We don't understand
:D

I do when I can afford it. Most of the organic produce I buy is tea, I also like organic bread, which is much better than processed mush bread.

Aw, don't sweat it. Maybe next time.

But damn you for putting this here song in my head:

Jesus was a capricorn
He ate organic food
He believed in love and peace
And never wore no shoes
Long hair, beard and sandles
And a funky bunch of friends
Reckon we'd just nail him up
If he came down again
'Cause everybodys gotta have somebody to look down on
Who they can feel better than at any time they please
Someone doin somethin dirty decent folks can frown on
If you cant find nobody else, then help yourself to me
Eggheads cussing rednecks cussing
Hippies for their hair
Others laugh at straights who laugh at
Freaks who laugh at squares
Some folks hate the whites
Who hate the blacks who hate the klan
Most of us hate anything that
We dont understand
:D

That's ironic, because most people tell me I look like Jesus. Or have you seen a picture of me?

I buy locally, that's my big food decision. And generally yes, the produce and meat is organic. Right now the only meat I buy is chicken, and I'll get it either free range organic, or free range not-organic...both are good. The huge organic sections in most supermarkets these days doesn't really impress me, considering the fact that the label 'organic' is not nearly as stringent as people think.

aye, that's the thing. there's too many loop holes and other kind of holes and stuff.

That's ironic, because most people tell me I look like Jesus. Or have you seen a picture of me?
That's funny, but I don't believe I have. ;)

That's funny, but I don't believe I have. ;)

Behold. (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h278/NazcaVisitor/jesus1.jpg)

Do you eat them? Why or why not? Poll coming.

Of course I do. We all do. It's not as if anything we eat is really inorganic...it's either plant matter or animal matter, even if heavily converted, as certain foods are. So, everything we eat is organic, really.

I voted for "Yes, to avoid genetically altered food" but only because the poll didn't have the option "Yes, because it's better for the environment and, in case of animal products, for the animals". Which, hello!

I generally suck at doing something "for me", as in buying things that are good for my health etc. I'm much more motivated to buy organic in order to curb down on pesticides, soil degradation, animal mass production with all its evils, etc.

Same for GM foods - I don't actually think they're going to make me ill, I'm much more worried about the fact that nobody knows the long-term effects of genetically altering plants (and animals) and about the lovely side-effect of Monsanto et al patenting plants (patenting plants!), forbidding people to keep seeds for the next planting, and, to top it all off, monopolizing the whole thing with their specialized pesticides and herbicides that are the only ones that work for their plants.

So yeah, I try to buy as much organic as possible. Which, depending on how much money I am willing or able to spend, can vary in amount but is never all the produce I buy. I'm just a lowly student, that would be too expensive.

One thing I always buy organic is eggs. I would like to say milk, too, but too often here they sell organic fresh milk only with 3.8% fat whereas I prefer 1.5%.
I shouldn't complain, though. Germany is apparently close to the top of countries in terms of how much organic produce we buy. Even the discount supermarkets (like Lidl and I think even Aldi) have their own organic line by now, as do even some drugstores.

I eat some kinds of organic food sometimes. I prefer that the animals from which I get my meat not be fed animal products or antibiotics and that they be raised humanely (I don't eat veal for this reason). If they are wild caught I won't eat anything that is endangered (abalone for instance) or that is abused (certain kinds of crabs where they remove the claw and throw the crab back, or sharks where the fins are cut off and the finless shark is thrown back, unable to feed or defend itself).

I do note that locally grown certified organic food tastes better - because it's fresher (also, because it's fresher, it retains more nutrients).

On a side note, I won't be a vegan or vegetarian, because the practices used in growing vegetable crops are inhumane to the animals killed or displaced by farming practices, in addition these practices are hugely damaging to the environment (nitrate buildups in the land and oceans, the heavy use of petroleum in large scale farming)

Not really, the stuff is too expensive and too little quality control for the most part.

Besides, I've never seen anything stating that all the stuff that organic growers claim is legit.

considering the fact that the label 'organic' is not nearly as stringent as people think.

aye, that's the thing. there's too many loop holes and other kind of holes and stuff.

Hm, guess we're luckier here. While everyone can go and call their product "Biosomething" ("organic" in this case is "Bio" in German) there luckily is also this (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Bio-siegel.JPG) little label that only those products get that are certified organic. Plus a couple of smaller certifications from the co-ops that were the pioneers of organic food here, like Demeter or Neuland.

Hm, guess we're luckier here. While everyone can go and call their product "Biosomething" ("organic" in this case is "Bio" in German) there luckily is also this (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Bio-siegel.JPG) little label that only those products get that are certified organic. Plus a couple of smaller certifications from the co-ops that were the pioneers of organic food here, like Demeter or Neuland.
It's a big issue in the US (Or it was when I last read about it), just what constitutes organic.

Japan is starting to get on the organic kick, but given how picky the Japanese are about their food sources, I'm not sure just how much of an impact it's going to have.

Hm, guess we're luckier here. While everyone can go and call their product "Biosomething" ("organic" in this case is "Bio" in German) there luckily is also this (http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bild:Bio-siegel.JPG) little label that only those products get that are certified organic. Plus a couple of smaller certifications from the co-ops that were the pioneers of organic food here, like Demeter or Neuland.

yeh, there's lables and stuff here too. but the requirements for getting the sticker, which i think is an EU thing although i could be wrong, allow a good deal of inorganic chemicals to be used for many circumstances which are largely deliberate loopholes to allow greater yields and cheaper produce. i mean there's still less chemicals being used than the standard stuff so it is better, but the difference is negligable when it comes to personal health, or at least it's been over-exaggerated by newpaper suppliments and the like.

but then i can imagine that food laws might be a bit stricter in germany, what with the precedent of the beer purity thing and all.

Sometimes?

Yes, but not for either of the reasons in the poll. Some things I can only find at organic shops, and in other cases it's cheaper.

i eat anything that don't eat me first, but i prefer my feed the way nature evolved it.

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All fresh food I buy is local, mainly because the fruit and veg I can get at the market is much cheaper and tastier than the homogenised crap that's been stored for nine months then sold as fresh and/or been shipped over from New Zealand even when identical local produce is in season you get at supermarkets.

Fucking supermarkets.

All fresh food I buy is local, mainly because the fruit and veg I can get at the market is much cheaper and tastier than the homogenised crap that's been stored for nine months then sold as fresh and/or been shipped over from New Zealand even when identical local produce is in season you get at supermarkets.

Fucking supermarkets.

i wish i could say the same and aggree whole heartedly with the last. at any rate our neighbor and landlord who grows quite a bit on the little quarter acre corner of a block all three of the houses sit on as well, shares most of what he grows with all of us, and by comparison, the stuff from the store tastes like styrofoam!

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Yes, for environmental reasons. But two criteria are always more important:

1. locally produced? - I would rather eat conventionally farmed food that has travelled less to be here, than organic food from distant parts.

2. Fair Trade? - too important to miss

Yes, for environmental reasons. But two criteria are always more important:

1. locally produced? - I would rather eat conventionally farmed food that has travelled less to be here, than organic food from distant parts.

2. Fair Trade? - too important to miss

i'll second that also!

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I just voted 69 because I am not bothered, I go for the cheapest stuff in the supermarket. I once tried to pay with monopoly money, it did not work

"Agh my plastic brain"

Don't care, all the stuff tastes the same to me. I don't see GM foods as bad, either.

personally i don't buy most of the food i eat, my mom does. sometimes she does buy organic food, mostly for health reasons. but now we're looking to buy our vegetables directly from the organic farmer, wich would be cool since they often taste better.



On a side note, I won't be a vegan or vegetarian, because the practices used in growing vegetable crops are inhumane to the animals killed or displaced by farming practices, in addition these practices are hugely damaging to the environment (nitrate buildups in the land and oceans, the heavy use of petroleum in large scale farming)

:confused: you don't eat vegetables then? can you survive on such a diet? and i always thought that it was much worse for the environment to grow cattle than it was to grow crops, it takes a lot more water, produces a lot more nitrate (in the manure) etc etc etc.

The only inorganic food I eat is rocks :eek:

If it tastes good, ill eat it. 'Organic' is just a way of making people feel like they are becoming healthy when they just need to exercise.

Behold. (http://i66.photobucket.com/albums/h278/NazcaVisitor/jesus1.jpg)
Woah, no way, dude!

That is an astounding similarity to http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/JesusShades.gif !!!

That's you as smiley!!!!! :eek::p:D

I actively avoid buying anything that is GM, I also aim to buy locally produced food where ever possible and feel that this is the best way to get the most natural diet possible. I am not a hippie, I love pizza and fast food, but I mostly buy good stuff to eat at home and feed to my family.

Nope. On average, it costs 2-3 times as much.

Sure, foods that aren't "organic" are worse for the environment, but to achieve an identical crop yield, organic foods require more land than ones grown using pesticides and fertilisers. Any benefit is at least partially mitigated anyway as a result.

I would eat organic foods, not to avoid genetically modified foods, those are probably fine, but to avoid pesticides and herbicides and the like.

But I'm broke so I go for the cheap produce.

I eat them because they are nicer looking, fresher, and usually taste better. They are also more likely to come from local farms and I like supporting local business.

I drink organic milk because it tastes better and I don't want to ingest all those antibiotics.

Edit: I also buy free range whenever possible. Nicer for the animals.