Nazi's In Chaffees
Bodies Without Organs
25-03-2007, 13:27
Ouch.
I ended up watching The Guns Of Navarone a few nights back. Yeah, entertaining enough in its way, but it ain't no Where Eagles Dare.
When we got to the scenes of the massed German troops mobilising their (ahem) Panzers and SdKfz's we were treated to a succession of American made M24 Chaffees, Greyhounds and M1 halftracks. Arg.
Even your actual Nazis were better at disguising tanks (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/GERMAN_TANK_DISGUISED_AS_AN_AMERICAN_TANK.jpg) than this. (There is an even better image of one rebuilt as a pretty convincing Archer, but I can't find it right now).
My point, if I indeed have one... maybe we should all start buying up wrecked Iraqi tanks while we still can as an investment in the future film industry.
EDIT: copious apologies for the renegade apostrophe in the thread title. Mea culpa.
Imperial isa
25-03-2007, 13:41
funny i watch it on friday on dvd
if they could find german small arms, you think they could find german tanks and half trucks to do it right
Eve Online
25-03-2007, 13:46
Ouch.
I ended up watching The Guns Of Navarone a few nights back. Yeah, entertaining enough in its way, but it ain't no Where Eagles Dare.
When we got to the scenes of the massed German troops mobilising their (ahem) Panzers and SdKfz's we were treated to a succession of American made M24 Chaffees, Greyhounds and M1 halftracks. Arg.
Even your actual Nazis were better at disguising tanks (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/GERMAN_TANK_DISGUISED_AS_AN_AMERICAN_TANK.jpg) than this. (There is an even better image of one rebuilt as a pretty convincing Archer, but I can't find it right now).
My point, if I indeed have one... maybe we should all start buying up wrecked Iraqi tanks while we still can as an investment in the future film industry.
EDIT: copious apologies for the renegade apostrophe in the thread title. Mea culpa.
The Iraqis drive Russian tanks.
We have plenty of those on movie lots.
Even back during the Cold War, we had some to use in the movie Red Dawn.
Bodies Without Organs
25-03-2007, 13:52
The Iraqis drive Russian tanks.
In general, yes, but they had their own custom derivatives and variations - your T-55 Enigma, and suchlike, no?
Fassigen
25-03-2007, 13:57
Repeat after me: One does not pluralise nouns with apostrophes.
Bodies Without Organs
25-03-2007, 13:58
Repeat after me: One does not pluralise nouns with apostrophes.
Hey there. Note the edit time in the first post.
For that matter: one shouldn't use a capital letter purely because there is a colon preceding it.
UN Protectorates
25-03-2007, 14:00
Yes, it is very cringeworthy when I watch a war film that isn't particularly accurate when it comes to vehicles or uniforms.
Another example is when in the film, "The Misfit Brigade", an SU-100 Russian tank destroyer is portrrayed as a German Jagdpanzer tank destroyer.
Funnily enough, in one scene with the SU-100, the germans spot it when it's supposed to have been captured by the Russians. The dialogue then goes:
"That's one of ours! It sure is, and it's a terrible paint job. You can still see the cross! (...) Ivan's pinced my tank!'
SU-100:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/a/a2/Su-100_spatg.jpg/602px-Su-100_spatg.jpg
Jagdpanzer:
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/14/JPz_IV-48_2.jpg/800px-JPz_IV-48_2.jpg
It's such a pity that we no longer have the massive amounts of surplus tanks left after the second world war anymore. A lot of them were scrapped during the late 1940's and 50's to make way for the Cold War.
Thankfully, a lot of Cold War surplus is still out there.
Never again will we see another epic film tank battle like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qdWDEmJ74RI
Mr Gigglesworth
25-03-2007, 14:04
Ouch.
I ended up watching The Guns Of Navarone a few nights back. Yeah, entertaining enough in its way, but it ain't no Where Eagles Dare.
When we got to the scenes of the massed German troops mobilising their (ahem) Panzers and SdKfz's we were treated to a succession of American made M24 Chaffees, Greyhounds and M1 halftracks. Arg.
Even your actual Nazis were better at disguising tanks (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/b/b2/GERMAN_TANK_DISGUISED_AS_AN_AMERICAN_TANK.jpg) than this. (There is an even better image of one rebuilt as a pretty convincing Archer, but I can't find it right now).
My point, if I indeed have one... maybe we should all start buying up wrecked Iraqi tanks while we still can as an investment in the future film industry.
EDIT: copious apologies for the renegade apostrophe in the thread title. Mea culpa.
Yarrgh we once disguised our vessel as a Spanish Merchantman, took plent of booty disguised like that.
Fassigen
25-03-2007, 14:14
Hey there. Note the edit time in the first post.
The title still remains incorrect.
For that matter: one shouldn't use a capital letter purely because there is a colon preceding it.
One should when it is meant to be a full sentence on its own and meant to be repeated by the reader. :p
Bodies Without Organs
25-03-2007, 14:20
The title still remains incorrect.
Yup, and can you guess why that might be?
One should when it is meant to be a full sentence on its own and meant to be repeated by the reader. :p
In such a particular instance said full sentence should be contained in quotation marks.
Fassigen
25-03-2007, 14:35
Yup, and can you guess why that might be?
Because you haven't figured out how to edit in-thread titles?
In such a particular instance said full sentence should be contained in quotation marks.
Not when the singularity of the phrase is apparent.
Bodies Without Organs
25-03-2007, 14:36
Because you haven't figured out how to edit in-thread titles?
That's the bunny.
Yup, and can you guess why that might be?
In such a particular instance said full sentence should be contained in quotation marks.
Although it pains me to say it, Fassigen did indeed make a grammatical error and Bodies Without Organs is correct in his statement.
As the Minister for the Spreading of Proper English I hereby sentence you to one minute's worth of typing in so-called 'leet speak'.
That should be enough of a punishment for anyone who professes to have a decent grasp of the English language.
Ilaer
Bodies Without Organs
25-03-2007, 14:43
Not when the singularity of the phrase is apparent.
Repeat after me: Repeat after me or Repeat after me: "Repeat after me"?
Johnny B Goode
25-03-2007, 15:21
Yes, it is very cringeworthy when I watch a war film that isn't particularly accurate when it comes to vehicles or uniforms.
Another example is when in the film, "The Misfit Brigade", an SU-100 Russian tank destroyer is portrrayed as a German Jagdpanzer tank destroyer.
Funnily enough, in one scene with the SU-100, the germans spot it when it's supposed to have been captured by the Russians. The dialogue then goes:
"That's one of ours! It sure is, and it's a terrible paint job. You can still see the cross! (...) Ivan's pinced my tank!'
I was watching a war movie with Kenneth Branagh and Stanley Tucci as German officials. They didn't even bother to affect the accents.
UN Protectorates
25-03-2007, 15:32
I was watching a war movie with Kenneth Branagh and Stanley Tucci as German officials. They didn't even bother to affect the accents.
Yeah. I never like it when you have americanized war films, where the Germans/Italians/Russians etc. are played by American or English actors, who can't/won't even speak German/Italian/Russian, and at best pull off a stupid sounding accent.
I enjoy war films where the actors who play the roles are of the nationality they are portraying. Often these are actually foreign made films from Russia or Germany, funnily enough.
Imperial isa
25-03-2007, 15:39
Yeah. I never like it when you have americanized war films, where the Germans/Italians/Russians etc. are played by American or English actors, who can't/won't even speak German/Italian/Russian, and at best pull off a stupid sounding accent.
I enjoy war films where the actors who play the roles are of the nationality they are portraying. Often these are actually foreign made films from Russia or Germany, funnily enough.
have you see the German war movie Stalingrad
UN Protectorates
25-03-2007, 16:23
have you see the German war movie Stalingrad
Oh yeah. Awesome film. Nice gritty realism and accuracy.
Imperial isa
25-03-2007, 16:28
Oh yeah. Awesome film. Nice gritty realism and accuracy.
i'm having a hard time trying to get it on DVD here
Rubiconic Crossings
25-03-2007, 16:57
Guns of Navarone...ok....average....but what the hell was Return about?
btw...who can tell me the gay theme in Guns?
Johnny B Goode
25-03-2007, 17:18
Yeah. I never like it when you have americanized war films, where the Germans/Italians/Russians etc. are played by American or English actors, who can't/won't even speak German/Italian/Russian, and at best pull off a stupid sounding accent.
I enjoy war films where the actors who play the roles are of the nationality they are portraying. Often these are actually foreign made films from Russia or Germany, funnily enough.
Oddly enough, they had British accents. And it wasn't even a Hollywood movie. It was HBO.
Lacadaemon
25-03-2007, 18:06
The always have the wrong guns too.
Bodies Without Organs
26-03-2007, 00:12
The always have the wrong guns too.
Well, that brings us back to Navarone: the protagonists 'cunningly' disguised as German soldiers with Sten guns.
Infinite Revolution
26-03-2007, 00:36
aye, i don't tend to notice the tanks but there are so may films where the russians or whoever are flying DC-3s, or ford tri-motors or Hueys or driving landrovers or jeeps. i mean it's not that hard to buy surplus russian or chinese military hardware. i even saw one film where a rogue eastern bloc commander or something was driving a nissan terrano in cammo paint - that thing's never been in military service as far as i know and if it has that's one stupid military that bought it. i think it might have been a modern james bond film.
Bodies Without Organs
26-03-2007, 02:03
i even saw one film where a rogue eastern bloc commander or something was driving a nissan terrano in cammo paint - that thing's never been in military service as far as i know and if it has that's one stupid military that bought it.
A quick search shows that it is used by the Norwegian military. Make of that what you will.
Infinite Revolution
26-03-2007, 02:33
A quick search shows that it is used by the Norwegian military. Make of that what you will.
they only use wheeled vehicles for going to the shops. everything else is done on skidoos or with a dog team and sled. probably :P