NationStates Jolt Archive


Toilet seat: Up or down?

Lame Bums
24-03-2007, 07:03
Just exactly what the thread's title says. Do you leave it up or down?

Personally, as a man, it's up, and I'm a shotmaker.

And if a woman's around, she can take the two seconds to look to see the toilet seat's lowered, rather than taking a flying butt-leap towards the pot.
Congo--Kinshasa
24-03-2007, 07:07
Up.
IL Ruffino
24-03-2007, 07:08
I squat.
Anti-Social Darwinism
24-03-2007, 07:10
Down. Not just the seat, the lid, too. I have a tomcat who thinks that, as the only male in the house, he has a duty to get water all over the toilet seat. The lid gets left down to prevent that.
Congo--Kinshasa
24-03-2007, 07:15
I squat.

o.O
Texoma Land
24-03-2007, 07:19
Just exactly what the thread's title says. Do you leave it up or down?

Depends on the circumstance. At home, up. But then I have my own bathroom, am 1/2 of a gay male couple, and have no women living with me. Elsewhere (or when I have guests), I put down both the seat and lid so that everyone has to raise the seat to use it. Not to mention it just looks better that way.
Aliquantus
24-03-2007, 07:27
Down, you have to respect your 'guests'.

I actualy dont have a flush bog, I have one of those jetwash ones and if you sit on it wile it is spraying it feels well robin.
Poitter
24-03-2007, 07:29
o.O

*throw the last off the poo*
Congo--Kinshasa
24-03-2007, 07:32
*throw the last off the poo*

*finally gives up, waves white flag*

You win.
The South Islands
24-03-2007, 07:35
Living in a dorm with a community bathroom (complete with urinals) mean that the toilet seat is usually down. And usually warm :/
Brutland and Norden
24-03-2007, 10:17
Up. Though Chinese feng shui says you should keep both the seat and the lid down 'cause the toilet is a source of bad water energy... which is certainly the case if somebody didn't flush or the poo got regurgitated.

In public bathrooms, when I see the lid down, I usually take it that there's a surprise inside. :)
China Phenomenon
24-03-2007, 10:34
I leave the seat and the lid down, even though I'm a man and no women live in my apartment. I do it because when the lid is down, flushing doesn't sound as loud. I like peace and quiet.
Chamoi
24-03-2007, 10:36
I'm a bloke, if I am aving a dump I leave it down, if i have a piss i leave it up. I think a woman leaves it down and i need to have a piss i have to lift it up so why should it not be the other way around?
Dagnia
24-03-2007, 10:43
It depends. If you are a single person of either sex without a roommate, it never really matters, unless you are entertaining guests, in which case you should set the seat down. If you are a man living with another man (whatever your reasons) it may actually be more polite to leave it up, as most of his and your trips there will not involve sitting, unless there are any medical conditions that require one of you to sit down. If you are a woman living with another woman, then the seat should stay down. If you are a man living with a woman or woman living with man then maybe this should be discussed between the two, although it may be best for the man to leave it down, as I have heard women complain about men leaving the toilet seat up and then the woman "hits the porcelain" in the middle of the night.
Desperate Measures
24-03-2007, 10:45
I'm a marred man. Guess.
Philosopy
24-03-2007, 10:51
I put it down. I'm well trained.
German Nightmare
24-03-2007, 11:02
I sit to pee,
I sit to shit,
I kneel to puke,
for I have to clean my bathroom.
Gorillapigs
24-03-2007, 11:33
I used to leave it up, but the wife complained. Now I leave it down, however there's no winning with her, now she moans that it's covered in piss
East Nhovistrana
24-03-2007, 11:44
In my house (students, except me) we have a men's and a ladies'. The men's, sadly, has a seat that won't stay up... never mind "put the seat down when you're done", we have a whole other problem, with us it's more "for the love of God hold the seat up when you piss."
Oh, and nobody ever flushes the thing. In fact I'm seriously considering just avoiding the whole place and chucking my mess out of the window.
Pure Metal
24-03-2007, 12:03
i put the lid down, otherwise it tends to smell and it just looks better that way.

plus that way its totally fair for either sex that wants to use the loo - both sexes have to lift the thing up, and nobody can complain :P
Compulsive Depression
24-03-2007, 12:03
This is one of the more unusual recurring topics we get, isn't it?

Seat, and lid, down. Because otherwise, when you flush, shitty water gets sprayed everywhere. And your toothbrush is in the bathroom, right? Tasty.
Cabra West
24-03-2007, 14:36
Down.
Always.
No excuses.
If I ever catch a man to pee standing up in my loo, he's roadkill.
Grave_n_idle
24-03-2007, 14:48
Just exactly what the thread's title says. Do you leave it up or down?

Personally, as a man, it's up, and I'm a shotmaker.

And if a woman's around, she can take the two seconds to look to see the toilet seat's lowered, rather than taking a flying butt-leap towards the pot.

As 'a man' and a 'shotmaker' you leave the seat up? One must assume that this is actually only relevent in (probably less than) half of the reasons a person would be in the bathroom...?

The seat and lid should always be down when the apparatus is not actively being used - check the post Compulsive Depression made - you might want to look up the physics of a flushing toilet sometime. Of course, if you don't believe in germs, the idea of a four-foot cloud of droplets being propelled out of the flushing bowl might not bother you...


The other reason I always leave the seat down is efficiency - my wife needs it down for two of the two main purposes she's in there for, and I need it down for one of the two. Three-fourths of all visits will statistically need a downed-seat, so it would be inefficient (and kind of churlish) to keep insisting on raising the seat. (Especially given the horrible droplet-y effect I previously mentioned).
Philosopy
24-03-2007, 14:52
Down.
Always.
No excuses.
If I ever catch a man to pee standing up in my loo, he's roadkill.

And how exactly would you plan on catching them?
Lunatic Goofballs
24-03-2007, 15:06
My wife and I have discussed this at length, and the bottom line is that she ges her way, and the default position is 'seat down'. It is raised to urinate, and must be put back in the down position theeafter.

She wins because she has the only vagina in the house(and a gun). :p
Ifreann
24-03-2007, 15:10
My wife and I have discussed this at length, and the bottom line is that she ges her way, and the default position is 'seat down'. It is raised to urinate, and must be put back in the down position theeafter.

She wins because she has the only vagina in the house(and a gun). :p

Don't you have a gun too? Or at least some kind of mud firing weapon?


Also, down=win. The lid down too. I'm not gonna go to the trouble of leaving my waste in the toilet only to spray it around the room when I flush.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-03-2007, 15:12
Don't you have a gun too? Or at least some kind of mud firing weapon?


Also, down=win. The lid down too. I'm not gonna go to the trouble of leaving my waste in the toilet only to spray it around the room when I flush.

Well, there WAS the Poo Cannon, but it has been dismantled. Now all I have is a paintball marker.(I have a gun permit and am considering purchasing a shotgun or a pistol, but I haven't yet.) :p
Katganistan
24-03-2007, 15:15
Just exactly what the thread's title says. Do you leave it up or down?

Personally, as a man, it's up, and I'm a shotmaker.

And if a woman's around, she can take the two seconds to look to see the toilet seat's lowered, rather than taking a flying butt-leap towards the pot.

If the owner of the pot is a male, it is left as he prefers.
If the owner of the pot is a female, it is left as she prefers.

If the pot is shared: leave it down. Why?
When using the pot to urinate: female needs it down.
When using the pot to urinate: male needs it up.
When using the pot to defecate: female needs it down.
When using the pot to defecate: male needs it down.

Since it needs to be down 75% of the time, the polite gent will put it down after he has raised it.
Lid too, for both genders.
Ghost Tigers Rise
24-03-2007, 15:15
Lid down. That way, I don't try to piss standing-up with the seat down at 3AM... and I don't get that unpleasant, cold, sticky surprise when I go to crap the next morning.
The Infinite Dunes
24-03-2007, 15:23
I was brought up in a house where I was the only creature creating testosterone. In comparison there were 10 creatures that were female. 3 humans, and 7 pets. The excessive esposure to oestrogen at a young age probably effeminised me. In addition to that, our child minder was female, all our neighbours were female...

I learnt to leave the seat down.
Compulsive Depression
24-03-2007, 15:27
Since it needs to be down 75% of the time, the polite gent will put it down after he has raised it.

That only works if the male craps and pisses the same number of times a day. And maybe I'm odd, but I piss a lot more than I crap. Must be all the coffee :p

I still say "lid down", though. But not for reasons of broken statistics!
The Norlands
24-03-2007, 15:32
I urinate far more than I fecate, partly because I have a tiny bladder, and partly because in relation to solid food, my slick digestive system and fast metabolism ensure that I rarely have to fecate more than once a day, and usually less, whereas I empty myself of liquid waste at least four times a day. Even still, I leave the seat down, because it is far more comfortable to sit than it is to stand, and when I do stand, it is more fun to aim for the smaller target. And I aim well enough that I do not miss.
Ifreann
24-03-2007, 15:42
Well, there WAS the Poo Cannon, but it has been dismantled. Now all I have is a paintball marker.(I have a gun permit and am considering purchasing a shotgun or a pistol, but I haven't yet.) :p

Make sure to get a bigger gun than your wife. I recommend getting one of these (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/ImageC.jpg).
Grave_n_idle
24-03-2007, 15:47
That only works if the male craps and pisses the same number of times a day. And maybe I'm odd, but I piss a lot more than I crap. Must be all the coffee :p

I still say "lid down", though. But not for reasons of broken statistics!

Except that the female urination is also going to be statistically skewed the same way, most likely. The statistics will be a little off, but the bias is indicative - still supporting more 'sitting' than 'standing'.

I have to point out, also - it's not like guys can't pee and poop at the same time... we do sometimes multi-task. (Skewing the statistics again, and still the same way).
China Phenomenon
24-03-2007, 15:56
Down.
Always.
No excuses.
If I ever catch a man to pee standing up in my loo, he's roadkill.

http://img20.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=47823_127781_122_397lo.jpg
Saxnot
24-03-2007, 16:01
Down. Everyone can sit down. If I want it up, I'll put it up. No great shakes if I forget to put it down. Put it down yourself; only takes two seconds. I don't know why it's such an issue.
Shlarg
24-03-2007, 16:42
If it's a public men's restroom PLEASE LEAVE THE SEAT UP ! If it's a man and wife at home leave the seat down. If you have a bunch of boys in the family at home PLEASE LEAVE THE SEAT UP !
New Xero Seven
24-03-2007, 17:24
Up when I'm standing. Down when I'm sitting.
Its that simple.
Bumboat
24-03-2007, 17:30
Seat and lid down.
Maineiacs
24-03-2007, 17:40
Down, because I can't stand to pee (or stand, period).
Lame Bums
24-03-2007, 17:45
If the owner of the pot is a male, it is left as he prefers.
If the owner of the pot is a female, it is left as she prefers.

If the pot is shared: leave it down. Why?
When using the pot to urinate: female needs it down.
When using the pot to urinate: male needs it up.
When using the pot to defecate: female needs it down.
When using the pot to defecate: male needs it down.

Since it needs to be down 75% of the time, the polite gent will put it down after he has raised it.
Lid too, for both genders.

There's one hole in your logic... man must piss more often than he shits. ;)

Let's say that a man's gotta piss four times a day, and shit once.

Wait, scratch this...I'm still at 75 percent, since the woman has to piss as well.
Boscorrosive
24-03-2007, 17:47
If I flush the toilet then I put the seat and lid down. If not then I usually leave the seat up.
Lame Bums
24-03-2007, 17:49
As 'a man' and a 'shotmaker' you leave the seat up? One must assume that this is actually only relevent in (probably less than) half of the reasons a person would be in the bathroom...?

The seat and lid should always be down when the apparatus is not actively being used - check the post Compulsive Depression made - you might want to look up the physics of a flushing toilet sometime. Of course, if you don't believe in germs, the idea of a four-foot cloud of droplets being propelled out of the flushing bowl might not bother you...

Well, yeah, I'm pretty sure it's down to shit. The rim probably has enough piss on it that even I would avoid the flying butt-leap towards the bowl.

As someone who has several mountains of crap piling up in my room, drinks crappy beer, and hasn't cleaned his toilet seat in a few months, would I be in a very good position to care about a plume of germs coming out of the pot? Maybe I could say, because I'm tall, that the shit stays away from my face, and call it a day. :cool:
Ralina
24-03-2007, 17:50
I am a guy and I live by myself. I also keep the seat and the lid down at all times when not in use.

I seem to be in the minority though.
JuNii
24-03-2007, 18:24
Just exactly what the thread's title says. Do you leave it up or down?

"Other"? what some people leave it halfway?

I leave it down.
Soviestan
24-03-2007, 18:26
Most time its down, I put it up only when I need to.
JuNii
24-03-2007, 18:27
And how exactly would you plan on catching them?

ever tried to zip up while running? OOOOWWWWWWW!!!! :p
Snafturi
24-03-2007, 18:42
I'm a woman so I leave the seat down. If a guy leaves the seat up it doesn't bother me though.
Lunatic Goofballs
24-03-2007, 18:44
Make sure to get a bigger gun than your wife. I recommend getting one of these (http://i134.photobucket.com/albums/q100/TheSteveslols/ImageC.jpg).

Sold! :D
Curious Inquiry
24-03-2007, 19:50
I'm a marred man. Guess.

Freudian typo? :D

When I was growing up, I shared a bathroom. My sister trained me well. Seat and lid down.
Naturality
24-03-2007, 20:15
I leave it down.. with cover down too. Hate it when stuff falls in the toilet, so made a habit of just shutting it completely. So.. I'm use to having to lift it up before I sit.. it wouldn't inconvenience me to have to put it down if someone left it open.
Socialist Pyrates
24-03-2007, 20:24
Just exactly what the thread's title says. Do you leave it up or down?

Personally, as a man, it's up, and I'm a shotmaker.

And if a woman's around, she can take the two seconds to look to see the toilet seat's lowered, rather than taking a flying butt-leap towards the pot.

if we have company seat and lid are both down, it just looks better that way....any other time it just doesn't matter...

I agree that women can take a millisecond to check if the seat is up or down...
Infinite Revolution
25-03-2007, 01:50
seat and lid down before flushing always. it's what it's for afterall.
New Stalinberg
25-03-2007, 01:54
I keep it down because it looks more organized.
Potarius
25-03-2007, 02:16
Seat and lid down, always. And when I'm done regardless of what I'm doing (piss or shit, pick your favorite), I always put both down before I flush.

And I never lift the seat when I take a whiz. Why? For starters, it's a hell of a lot easier to clean backsplash off of the seat than it is off of the top of the bowl (a simple combination of TP and alcahol does the trick), and to top it off, it's a lot less work in the long run.

I can't say the same for my dad, though. His bathroom habits are fucking weird... First of all, he flushes while he's taking a piss, and when he's done, he flushes again, usually quite some time before the toilet tank is refreshed. So, as you can imagine, this leaves quite a bit of remnants in the toilet, usually urine and toilet paper. And he has the nerve to tell me that he actually uses less water that way.

See, the last time I checked, flushing twice and not getting rid of everything (thus requiring a third flush) took a hell of a lot more water than flushing once and getting rid of all of the waste. Oh, and he flushes about twenty times when he takes a shit, whereas I flush one or two times, three times maximum.

He tells me it's a "bad habit" to flush in moderation, and that I should flush as many times as possible. Baby boomers are so fucking bone-headed...
Dreggs
25-03-2007, 02:18
Both Down! I am not fishing anything out of there!
Utracia
25-03-2007, 02:24
If the owner of the pot is a male, it is left as he prefers.
If the owner of the pot is a female, it is left as she prefers.

If the pot is shared: leave it down. Why?
When using the pot to urinate: female needs it down.
When using the pot to urinate: male needs it up.
When using the pot to defecate: female needs it down.
When using the pot to defecate: male needs it down.

Since it needs to be down 75% of the time, the polite gent will put it down after he has raised it.
Lid too, for both genders.

Ah, talk about defecation! What a wonderful thread! :D

And as for me I will leave it up or down depending on what I had just used the toilet for. So I guess I'll say up as I won't take the time to put it back down after taking a piss.
Snafturi
25-03-2007, 02:49
I just don't think a woman should expect a guy to lower it after he's done if she isn't willing to raise it when she's done. Which is completely retarded since they don't use the toilet in shifts.
Lame Bums
25-03-2007, 06:19
He tells me it's a "bad habit" to flush in moderation, and that I should flush as many times as possible. Baby boomers are so fucking bone-headed...

Ever heard of a courtesy flush? I mean, yeah, if I have to choose between using a bit more water and clearing out the men's room for the next hour, I'll go with the former.
Cookesland
25-03-2007, 06:23
i keep it in the middle
Lame Bums
25-03-2007, 06:57
i keep it in the middle

If I tried that, the seat would fall down and put another crack in the porcelain of my pot. Eventually, like a battering ram, it would one day find its way to the floor (with my ass on top, probably).
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:04
And how exactly would you plan on catching them?

Easy. I've yet to meet a man who manages to pee standing up without leaving little drops in a 1 meter raduis around the toilet.
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:09
Easy. I've yet to meet a man who manages to pee standing up without leaving little drops in a 1 meter raduis around the toilet.

Frankly, if I were with you and discovered that you were inspecting the toilet every time I'd used it, I'd probably be out of there much faster than you could catch me.
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:14
Frankly, if I were with you and discovered that you were inspecting the toilet every time I'd used it, I'd probably be out of there much faster than you could catch me.

As if that took any inspection. A sense of smell is quite sufficient.
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:15
As if that took any inspection. A sense of smell is quite sufficient.

Buy an air freshener.
Piresa
25-03-2007, 21:16
If I need it up and its down, I'll either sit down or put it up.

If I need it down and its up, I'll put it down.

If it's already down and I need it down, yay!

I always leave it how I left it the last time.
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:17
Buy an air freshener.

I've got a clean loo and a window.
And a boyfriend who, when I asked him to sit down the first time he went to the toilet here, looked at me with big eyes and said "Of course I sit down. It's disgusting to pee standing up, I don't do that at home either cause I hate having to clean it".
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:19
I've got a clean loo and a window.
And a boyfriend who, when I asked him to sit down the first time he went to the toilet here, looked at me with big eyes and said "Of course I sit down. It's disgusting to pee standing up, I don't do that at home either cause I hate having to clean it".

There's being clean, and there's being obsessive.
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:24
There's being clean, and there's being obsessive.

In my experience, the only men who will pee standing up athome are those who have mummy or wifey clean up after them.
As German Nightmare said, he has to clean himself, so he's sitting down.
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:27
In my experience, the only men who will pee standing up athome are those who have mummy or wifey clean up after them.
As German Nightmare said, he has to clean himself, so he's sitting down.

Then you have an extraordinarily limited experience with men.

In my experience, most men are capable of hitting the right target, and able to clean the bathroom when it needs doing.
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:34
Then you have an extraordinarily limited experience with men.

In my experience, most men are capable of hitting the right target, and able to clean the bathroom when it needs doing.

I cleaned up after both my brothers for years.
Amazingly, now that they both have to clean for themselves, both started sitting down...
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:36
I cleaned up after both my brothers for years.
Amazingly, now that they both have to clean for themselves, both started sitting down...

Which brings us full circle back to my original question - how in the world do you know what your brothers are up to when they're in the toilet? :p
Grave_n_idle
25-03-2007, 21:47
Which brings us full circle back to my original question - how in the world do you know what your brothers are up to when they're in the toilet? :p

A little deduction solves this query easily.

If someone has managed to pee over the back of the toilet, they probably were not seated - in any conventional position, at least.

If they managed to pee in front of the toilet, they could have been standing or seated.

If - as in my experience, is the case with most guys - they have fairly uniformly peed just about everywhere - sometimes, even IN the toilet - they were most likely standing. Or doing hand-stands.
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:48
Or doing hand-stands.

Now this is something I've never tried while peeing. Aiming from the other side of the bathroom, yes, but not gymnastics.
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:49
Which brings us full circle back to my original question - how in the world do you know what your brothers are up to when they're in the toilet? :p

*lol
Cause I remarked on the loo smelling nice when I was visiting one of them two years ago. He blushed, and apologised to me. He said he never had any idea how bad loos smelled when you peed standing up and nobody cleaned it for a week. So after I was gone, he started noticing the smell after a few days. He eventually decided that rather than cleaning every two days as I had done for years before, he'd rather sit down and only clean once a week.
Grave_n_idle
25-03-2007, 21:50
Now this is something I've never tried while peeing. Aiming from the other side of the bathroom, yes, but not gymnastics.

Considering how much mess I have seen on occassions, it is a valid conclusion to come to. there must be people out there doing it.
Cabra West
25-03-2007, 21:52
Considering how much mess I have seen on occassions, it is a valid conclusion to come to. there must be people out there doing it.

I particularly hate it when they manage to hit the towels...
IL Ruffino
25-03-2007, 21:53
o.O

*nods*
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 21:53
Considering how much mess I have seen on occassions, it is a valid conclusion to come to. there must be people out there doing it.

I think it must be an Olympic Sport at some Motorway Service Stations.

Actually, peeing on the floor I can live with. It's when people at these places manage to miss from the other side that I wonder what they were playing at.
Grave_n_idle
25-03-2007, 22:01
I think it must be an Olympic Sport at some Motorway Service Stations.

Actually, peeing on the floor I can live with. It's when people at these places manage to miss from the other side that I wonder what they were playing at.

Ah, I wish it were just service stations. Some of my in-laws compounded the practise of domestic sprinkiling, with a carpeted bathroom... not nice.

Peeing on the floor might be acceptable if the floor is tiled, and you clean up after yourself... but wouldn't it be easier and nicer to just make sure you hit the mark?
Philosopy
25-03-2007, 22:17
Ah, I wish it were just service stations. Some of my in-laws compounded the practise of domestic sprinkiling, with a carpeted bathroom... not nice.

Peeing on the floor might be acceptable if the floor is tiled, and you clean up after yourself... but wouldn't it be easier and nicer to just make sure you hit the mark?

Aye, there's no excuse for not cleaning it up if you have an accident. Although I have a friend who hits the target a little too well - he always goes straight into the water. You can hear him two streets away.
Lame Bums
25-03-2007, 22:53
As if that took any inspection. A sense of smell is quite sufficient.

Really? I must be one hell of a shotmaker, then, because I haven't cleaned the loo in at least a month. The rim has no piss on it, and it doesn't smell bad.
Sel Appa
25-03-2007, 23:41
It's a moot point since there is no reason to lift it up. Just aim right. It's not hard...
Potarius
26-03-2007, 03:17
Ever heard of a courtesy flush? I mean, yeah, if I have to choose between using a bit more water and clearing out the men's room for the next hour, I'll go with the former.

Look, if I didn't courtesy flush, I'd only flush once. That said, I usually flush two or three times per sitting.

I find it disgusting when somebody just sits there and tries to clear it all away with one flush, shit and TP. That's why toilets clog so often.
The Scandinvans
26-03-2007, 03:23
I no longer use a toilet. I have since evolved beyond the need for one you primitive humans.;)
Chumblywumbly
26-03-2007, 03:32
I always put both toilet seat and lid down.

It looks nicer, small people or pets don't fall in, and everyone has to lift something up, no matter the shape of their genitalia.
Potarius
26-03-2007, 03:34
I always put both toilet seat and lid down.

It looks nicer, small people or pets don't fall in, and everyone has to lift something up, no matter the shape of their genitalia.

Holy shit, you travel with a circus?
Katurkalurkmurkastan
26-03-2007, 05:07
Holy shit, you travel with a circus?
hahahahaha

when i was little living in Greece i had one of these (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9e/French_Squatter_Toilet.jpg)

up or down is kindof a moot point
HabeasCorpus
26-03-2007, 05:41
She wins because she has the only vagina in the house(and a gun). :p

I hate this attitude that women must be deferred to because they are women.
Grave_n_idle
26-03-2007, 05:45
I hate this attitude that women must be deferred to because they are women.

Perhaps the point was that - having the only vagina - she actually has access to and control of a precious resource, that LG is willing to make certain allowances to protect his ability to tap. So to speak.
Chumblywumbly
26-03-2007, 05:45
Holy shit, you travel with a circus?
Enid Blyton plagiarised my life.