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It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

Not to an extreme, but definately more than other networks.

Although I don't believe that any networks would be especially angry if something went boom over Iran. War makes for great ratings.

It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

If they didn't, someone else would. There are plenty of people out there would rather read that sort of news, and for as long as Fox is the only one who runs such stories, their ratings will stay sky-high since they're the only ones who care to the....news-desiring of the chickenhawks.

And, yes, you would probably call me a "warmonger". I watch Fox to hear such stories. I want to nuke Tehran tomorrow, and you can come back on Monday....but I'm afraid that's another topic for another time.

Poll or this thread phails.

Dont watch Fox. Dont watch CNN. You want real news? Watch the Colbert Report. :)

It's a threat to the concentration span of its viewers. It really astounds me, what is it, news for the ADD afflicted or something? What the hell is with no segmant lasting longer than a Seasame Street skit, and all the bells, whistles, sound effects and 'shooting out of the screen at you' graphical logos with 'fair and balanced' repeated ad infinitum every couple of seconds like their worried the brain washing will wear off if not constantly re-enforced? As for all the scrolling ticker tapes, it's the news not a friggen parade. Perhaps they figure with enough visual distractions their viewers will fail to notice the absolute crap they are subjected to. I tuned in once and was shocked when the news announcing was interupted to announce the birth of ....wait for it.....one of their make women's baby. The show then finished without the rest of the news being announced. I mean seriously what the hell is with that?!

Another time the 3 presenters all got up and removed everything red from the set while ranting about 'cant have that it might offend someone, I'm offended by that, that has to go it's definately offensive" and so forth. This went on literally for minutes, and then at the end of the show we got to see them put it all back. Wow such mature and sophisticated antics......for a five year old maybe. Forget childish and forget amatuerish, Fox News makes both of those things look rather good by comparison.

It's a joke and greatly discrediting to those who actually watch such trashy, low quality, poorly presented dribble.

There's no way Fox News is a threat to peace. It's merely providing the people with the news and views they want. Any suggestion that some of Fox News's fine items are the modern equivalent of British WWI propaganda about the Germans murdering babies are complete non-
- Holy shit! The Iranians are ritualistically raping fourteen year old girls! This is an outrage! Why aren't we nuking these people?!

I think the entire neoconservative movement is a threat to peace. I do not LIKE using such a provocative, blanket statement to describe my feelings on the matter...but I also think that the neocons are nuts.

I don't know if they're a threat to peace, but a recent study showed that self-identified Fox News viewers voted for George W. Bush in 2004 more reliably than any other demographic group--88% to 7% for John Kerry. I think Fox has done a good job of identifying its demographic and catering to it.

It all makes sense now, Fox News is why the world hates America!

I think the danger with Murdoch's News Corp (which essentially owns the media in the UK, USA and Australia, that includes Fox) is that it doesn't really meaningfully challenge those in power. It kinda just goes along with whatever Blair and Bush say. For example before the Iraq war, every single one of his 175 newspapers editorialised in favour of it. This is just going to result in stagnant politics, and even more corruption than there is now.

More of a threat to human intelligence than to safety. Best thing to do is to just stop watching it, if their ratings fall then maybe they'll stop being a disinformation outlet.

There are many alternatives to the Faux News. If Fox was pitted against, lets say the BBC, Fox would wlak away hurt as it would suffer a horrible defeat. Just don't watch Fox ever! One less viewer is one less rating.

It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

With that evidence, I'd have to agree. I don't do this often, though.

There are many alternatives to the Faux News. If Fox was pitted against, lets say the BBC, Fox would wlak away hurt as it would suffer a horrible defeat. Just don't watch Fox ever! One less viewer is one less rating.

Because BBC actually just does the news, and nothing else? With BBC, you get a reporter telling about what shit's going on in the world, and that's it for half an hour. With Fox, or pretty much anything else, you get the opinion guys, the news cast hitting on each other (Fox and Friends), and then they might actually throw in the news, and it takes two hours.

Unfortunately, BBC is on some obscure public news channel which I keep forgetting, and it's on at like 1 AM, so I almost never see it, anyway...

If the UN nuked Fox News, would that qualify as humanitarian intervention?

I wouldn't say a threat to peace. A threat to truth, journalistic integrity and media credibility probably, but not a threat to peace.

Threat to peace? Possible.

It is though a direct threat to ones intelligence.

It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

absolutely-Fox as the propaganda arm of the Repubican Party is no different than the Nazi's propaganda machine that convinced Germans to blindly follow Hitler into WW2, the methods are the same....extreme patriotism, demonize the enemy, everyone is against us, only our version of events is the truth...

any news outlet that takes sides on an event rather than just stating the facts is entering propaganda mode...Fox's biases are so extreme that it can no longer be recognized as a legitimate news source...

Yeah they warmonger or fearmonger for a better word. The first time I saw that terror radar thing with the different colors for how elevated it is or whatever I was like what the fuck?.. people can't be this stupid. I couldn't believe they even had that crap on there. In the past when I would watch news stations my eyes would hurt from rolling them so much. I do watch CNN sometimes like the Suzie Orman show that's on at usually like 2am or something on Saturday, but that's about money. When I happen to be skimming channels and see Lou Dobbs on I'll stop and see what he's talking about for a few minutes sometimes, but that's about it. The big news stations always end up just pissing me off, so I try to stay away from them.

No, but it definately threatens rational thought, which in the end...isn't that the true enemy of Fundy Christians? ;)

It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

I agree that the news media, having such a powerful influence on so many people, DOES wag the dog a lot of the time.

Fox News, being of such low quality "journalism," winds up doing more damage because of the people who believe that if it wasn't true, the news wouldn't say it.

They get away with things by the infamous "turn it into a question" tactic. They can't say, "Islam is a Threat!" but they can say, "Is Islam a Threat?" and then ask a bunch of old conservative white christians to "debate" it. Is Obama a Terrorist? Should we make war on Iran? When is a good time for war on Iran? Are people who oppose war with Iran traitors?

Yeah they warmonger or fearmonger for a better word. The first time I saw that terror radar thing with the different colors for how elevated it is or whatever I was like what the fuck?.. people can't be this stupid. I couldn't believe they even had that crap on there. In the past when I would watch news stations my eyes would hurt from rolling them so much. I do watch CNN sometimes like the Suzie Orman show that's on at usually like 2am or something on Saturday, but that's about money. When I happen to be skimming channels and see Lou Dobbs on I'll stop and see what he's talking about for a few minutes sometimes, but that's about it. The big news stations always end up just pissing me off, so I try to stay away from them.

in the past week I had the displeasure of watching Hannity and Colmes(?) trashing Rosie O'Donnell because she had the nerve to voice an opinion on her TV program...their view being Hollywood celebrity types have no right to use their fame to voice an opinion on political matters...it all seemed very hypocritical for two biased "news celebrities" to have an opinion while dismissing others right to do so...are the Fox talking heads any more qualified to give an opinion than Rosie O'Donnell?

some of the crap Fox does leaves me at a loss for words...

Anyone or any group who voices an opinion differing from another is a threat to the peaceful status quo. We have two options: get all worked up because there is a disagreement forcing us to think instead of gobble up the "only" opinion; be thankful that large media corporations are still voicing differing opinions.

I think the danger with Murdoch's News Corp (which essentially owns the media in the UK, USA and Australia, that includes Fox) is that it doesn't really meaningfully challenge those in power. It kinda just goes along with whatever Blair and Bush say. For example before the Iraq war, every single one of his 175 newspapers editorialised in favour of it. This is just going to result in stagnant politics, and even more corruption than there is now.

They will challenge the President if he/she is a Dem or not a conservative.

They will challenge the President if he/she is a Dem or not a conservative.Their bias was there when Clinton was President--they came in about halfway through--but it was less obvious because they were able to disguise it as being tough on authority. They couldn't hide it as well when Bush became president, but they really became obvious after the 2006 elections when it became "attack all Democrats all the time."

Anyone or any group who voices an opinion differing from another is a threat to the peaceful status quo. We have two options: get all worked up because there is a disagreement forcing us to think instead of gobble up the "only" opinion; be thankful that large media corporations are still voicing differing opinions.

I don't necessarily agree with that. I think that voicing opinions have their place in a peaceful society, no matter how different they are, if they are each based in the truth or in what is believed to be true. I think that the further we get from honesty, the further we are from peace.

It all makes sense now, Fox News is why the world hates America!

I thought that was common knowledge? :p

Our government is a threat to peace. Not just the Republicans but the Democrats as well.

Sorry if this sounds offensive, but the majority audience for this kind of crap only exists in the US, with very little overseas interest.

Is Faux news a threat to peace?

I'm not so sure about peace, bt it is a threat to intelligence.

At the very least, it's a threat to sanity.

I believe that Fox News is simply one part of a greater culture of ignorance and polarization that is (sadly) fairly common in current America. Hell, the American left can be histrionic in it's own way.

As a Canadian, I am used to a different (and I'd say better) kind of news. Every news source has some kind of bias, but CBC and BBC are a little less dramatic about it. Canadian news as a whole tends to be less over-the-top, and have a bit less "Heroic Dogs in Your Neighbourhood" or "Big Car Chase, coming up at 11!!!" kind of filler.

It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

No. Not any more than Al Jazeera encourages worldwide jihad and murder.

No. Not any more than Al Jazeera encourages worldwide jihad and murder.

LOL!!!

Sorry....but....got links?

It seems whenever I watch fox news they hype up threats from places like Iran, North Korea, and even still show the terror alert level even though no one else still pays attention to it. In addition they had a programme on a few days ago about the "threat of Islam" or something. It seems if someone were to watch their programming and nothing else they would be much more likely to support military action against anyone the President and they deem a threat. So do you agree that fox news shows constant warmongering "news" or am I just going crazy? And no their will not be a poll seeing as its late and I'm tired.

So FoxNews is a threat because it exposes the evil that goes on in the nations you mentioned?

At the very least, it's a threat to sanity.

It can also be a form of entertainment. Some of the stuff they have on that network makes you want to literally laugh. Or cry. Depending on the situation.

LOL!!!

Sorry....but....got links?

Hang on...

Here's the most recent one.

Yes, get an American on the program, and have him support nukes for Iran, and the "chastisement of America".

http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1407#

Lots of interesting stuff here, all translated.

You should search the whole site.

LOL!!!

Sorry....but....got links?

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A4AD9865-B6C8-47AB-B624-0D279C19F98D.htm

Enjoy!

Hang on...

Here's the most recent one.

Yes, get an American on the program, and have him support nukes for Iran, and the "chastisement of America".

http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1407#

Lots of interesting stuff here, all translated.

You should search the whole site.

Translation: I don't like any opinion that disagrees with US foreign policy.

I actually support most of the stuff on Al Jazeera, hell I have the English version on my paytv.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A4AD9865-B6C8-47AB-B624-0D279C19F98D.htm

Enjoy!

ROFLMAO

You do realize, most Democrats and most Europeans don't believe that Al Jazeera is promoting jihad in any way - they all think it's just harmless, non-biased journalism at its best.

ROFLMAO

You do realize, most Democrats and most Europeans don't believe that Al Jazeera is promoting jihad in any way - they all think it's just harmless, non-biased journalism at its best.

Nonsense. Europeans and Democrats are all Jihadists.

I get embarassed for you when I have to point out obvious truths.

ROFLMAO

You do realize, most Democrats and most Europeans don't believe that Al Jazeera is promoting jihad in any way - they all think it's just harmless, non-biased journalism at its best.

What exactly do you know, and what are your desires for your country and others around the world? In one instance you speak like a European Nationalist .. in the other breath you speak differently. I just want to know where you stand.

Nonsense. Europeans and Democrats are all Jihadists.

I get embarassed for you when I have to point out obvious truths.

I'm sure you have a better argument for why you think Al Jazeera never promotes jihad.

Nonsense. Europeans and Democrats are all Jihadists.

I get embarassed for you when I have to point out obvious truths.

Jihadist enablers, more like.

"The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

Jihadist enablers, more like.

"The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

I take it in order of good men to do their jobs properly we need to stay in Iraq?

I take it in order of good men to do their jobs properly we need to stay in Iraq?

We do need to stay in Iraq, but that's not the only thing we need to do. This struggle must be fought at home and abroad.

The first step to fighting our enemies is to identify them. After all, fighting the insurgents in Iraq alone won't solve our problems there. We need to take a look at their funding and their motivations. Arab television, including Al-Jazeera, goes into the motivation category.

Jihadist enablers, more like.

"The only thing necessary for evil to succeed is for good men to do nothing."

Go away MTAE.

We do need to stay in Iraq, but that's not the only thing we need to do. This struggle must be fought at home and abroad.

The first step to fighting our enemies is to identify them. After all, fighting the insurgents in Iraq alone won't solve our problems there. We need to take a look at their funding and their motivations. Arab television, including Al-Jazeera, goes into the motivation category.

I just hope people realize that we aren't going to win this "war" on terror without doing something more than using force. If we don't add some kind of diplomacy and some kind of economic aid than this conflict will never end as there will always be people willing to join the cause.

Hang on...

Here's the most recent one.

Yes, get an American on the program, and have him support nukes for Iran, and the "chastisement of America".

http://www.memritv.org/search.asp?ACT=S9&P1=1407#

Lots of interesting stuff here, all translated.

You should search the whole site.

An interview with Luis Farakhan...riiiiight...sorry...but thats not really just not good enough...unless you are also saying that any news org that carries his 'message' supports terror...so that would be...errrr Fox, CNN, BBC, RAI etc etc



http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A4AD9865-B6C8-47AB-B624-0D279C19F98D.htm

Enjoy!

Its being a pig I'm afraid...not loading for me...most likely my crappy cnx...

We do need to stay in Iraq, but that's not the only thing we need to do. This struggle must be fought at home and abroad.

The first step to fighting our enemies is to identify them. After all, fighting the insurgents in Iraq alone won't solve our problems there. We need to take a look at their funding and their motivations. Arab television, including Al-Jazeera, goes into the motivation category.


When exactly did 'they' come over here and threaten our 'freedom'? Don't even say 9-11. Take Israel out of the picture and what do you have? Nothing.

I have a few senerios in my head that can happen. One, unlikely, is that we keep on messing around over there and Britain abandone us (everyone else has already) we get our freakin asses kicked (cause you know .. politically we aren't able lay hell down... and that is our only way, ...bombs) or we keep messing around over there and other countries, surrounding, economically etc get pissed off, and the ones in the UN or whatever tell us that if we don't back the hell off they are going to be forced to intervene. That will mean disaster. Or .. certain countries back us, certain countries do not and we advance into WW3 and that war will pretty much obliterate the USA. Ofcourse the US could say the hell with the laws and bomb everything in their enemy sight.. and I'm not sure what would happen then, but it can't be good.

But you better bet your rump that if the US falls in world power and economics, Israel will haul ass elsewhere.

http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/A4AD9865-B6C8-47AB-B624-0D279C19F98D.htm

Enjoy!

Ok...I read it...and your point is? Because I don't see AJ telling people to join...seems to me they are reporting a news story...you know...the kind of thing journalists are meant to do....

I'm sure you have a better argument for why you think Al Jazeera never promotes jihad.

I'm sure you think you can fork me with a loaded statement.

And it's rather frightening that you and other people actually agreed. I was trying to be ridiculous, see, but here you and AchillesLastStand went and nodded your heads. "Yup. Them Democrats and Europeans, they're Terrorist Jihadist Communist Muslim Suicide Bombers!"

People like you are the biggest threat to freedom the US has ever known.

Is Fox news a threat to peace?
Before I answer that..
Let me ask you ALL a question..
Should we somehow stop FOX, shall we censor FOX, shall we silence their Voice?

All NS veterans should know my opinion on these issues.

I think we all know what needs to be done; Murdoch must never be allowed to be born.

I propose we harness the massive difference of reality and Fox-reality to send ourselves back to Australia before Murdoch is conceived then stop his parents getting it on.

There, problem solved!

Before I answer that..
Let me ask you ALL a question..
Should we somehow stop FOX, shall we censor FOX, shall we silence their Voice?

All NS veterans should know my opinion on these issues.

Nope. I don't want them stopped, censored or silenced. I'm satisfied with discrediting them, with removing their legitimacy as a news source. I don't want to Godwin this thread, but I think that silencing or censoring Fox News would have the same effect as criminalizing Holocaust denial--it gives them undeserved credibility. I'll stick with the mocking and the ridicule--it's more effective and it's fun, too.

Nope. I don't want them stopped, censored or silenced. I'm satisfied with discrediting them, with removing their legitimacy as a news source. I don't want to Godwin this thread, but I think that silencing or censoring Fox News would have the same effect as criminalizing Holocaust denial--it gives them undeserved credibility. I'll stick with the mocking and the ridicule--it's more effective and it's fun, too.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v427/vonbek/thumbup.gif

Works fer me!

Ok...I read it...and your point is? Because I don't see AJ telling people to join...seems to me they are reporting a news story...you know...the kind of thing journalists are meant to do....

America wants AJ to be a nice boy and write an essay about all the wonderful things that America and Americans have done for the world.

America wants AJ to be a nice boy and write an essay about all the wonderful things that America and Americans have done for the world.

LOL I think there are American leaders who would be happy to see AJ wiped from the face of the planet...I mean how dare AJ report in an unbiased manner...

Ahhh, Fox Noise.

I think as a "news network" it fails horribly, but that is not why it was established. That Murdoch fella was pretty sharp. He saw a need to fill in the world of entertainment and he did it...with moderate success. Fox Noise caters to about million or two million Americans, it has no significant international appeal.

Much more insidious is the 175 newspapers he owns, especially outside of the United States where people actually have the attention span to READ a newspaper. This is where writing stories and editorials with a conservative slant can be successful, especially if it is not done "over the top."

Fox Noise hires easily recognizable names who are damaged goods in the news business (Chris Wallace, Bill O'Reilly, Neil Caputo, John Gibson, Sean Hannity and alan colmes<no caps deliberate>). Chris Wallace is such a vile human being he said when his father, Mike Wallace of 60 Minutes disagreed with him, that his father was senile and needed to be committed. But I digress.

It is a passion play of Shakespearean proportions (no disrespect to the Bard intended) and it is directed precisely, like a smart bomb, at a certain demographic, leaving the rest of the population puzzled as to what the hubbub is about.

I am not certain which is more appropriate in manner to describe it, but Shakespeare had a way with words far better than I, perhaps he would forgive me for purloining a portion of the line uttered by MacBeth during the siege of Dunsinane:

"it is a tale Told by an idiot, full of sound and fury,
Signifying nothing."

The Tragedy of MacBeth, Act 5, Scene 5

Fox Noise is indeed a tale told by idiots, full of sound and fury signifying nothing. It is not intended to be news but the walking shadow of news, it struts and frets in it's hour upon the stage and then it is no more.

It is not a threat to anything more than the intellect of a human being. It is entertainment for that small demographic that feels persecuted, inferior and incapable. It is anti-intellectualism at it's full flower.

Let it be. It does more damage to the cause of conservatism than any other thing I can think of.

I think the entire neoconservative movement is a threat to peace. I do not LIKE using such a provocative, blanket statement to describe my feelings on the matter...but I also think that the neocons are nuts.

In the late 70's and early 80's it was a threat to peace. Not anymore. In much the same way that a mugger is no longer a threat to your wallet after he has taken it and run off.

In the late 70's and early 80's it was a threat to peace. Not anymore. In much the same way that a mugger is no longer a threat to your wallet after he has taken it and run off.

The threat of a senile man with his finger on the red button still scares me.