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Here is something you don't see every day. When I was visiting New York City, I came across this large building in Queens totally covered in graffiti. Much of it is quite impressive. It's visible from the 7 train. check out the awesome pictures here:

http://fraudwasteabuse.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/amazing-graffiti-covered-building-5-pointz-in-new-york-city/

Pretty cool. THere should be more of those.

If I was a mayor or something, I would employ these artists and ask them to paint some of my city public buildings. When done properly and in a artisticaly way, graffiti is quite amazing.

cool.
i don't like some of it though, to much text, to little other stuff.
in my city there isn't a lot of graffiti, but some of the few 'paintings' there are are quite nice. there is this artist working and he paints a lot of happy creatures (think cute japanese stuff) everywhere. it's quite nice because it's not really what you'd expect.

I thought the building was really neat. I've always been attracted to things off the beaten path. I don't like to go where all the tourists go.

I actually have seen that quite often, and my father used to see it every day on his way to work. :p

It is very cool, though.

Bah, it's nothing to Maryland graffiti:
http://silverchips.mbhs.edu/gr/mar2007/IMG7518.jpg

That's some of the most winful graffiti I've ever seen.

some beautiful and wonderful and others ugly (mostly the text) and taking up too much space for the good stuff :D

I think there's a buidling in Philly that looks like that.

Cool.

I'll join the repetition and say: cool.

I plan on driving around Atlanta looking for some more cool graffiti.

Here is something you don't see every day. When I was visiting New York City, I came across this large building in Queens totally covered in graffiti. Much of it is quite impressive. It's visible from the 7 train. check out the awesome pictures here:

http://fraudwasteabuse.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/amazing-graffiti-covered-building-5-pointz-in-new-york-city/

Neat.

Very nice. I wouldn't mind if my house was painted like that. Well, my parents would since I live with them.

FOUND MYSPACE OF THE ARTIST:

http://profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendid=37199079

YOUTUBE VIDEO ON 5 POINTZ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e5miIRZIBfs&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fprofile%2Emyspace%2Ecom%2Findex%2Ecfm%3Ffuseaction%3Duser%2Eviewprofile%26friendid %3D37199079

It actually says it is
"The Worlds Largest Outdoor Aerosol Art Museum
Graffiti artists from all over the world create beatiful murals for public enjoyment, Hip hops 4th Element"


It looks like it may be a planned group of art by artist or artists, and a legally owned building rather than just street graffiti. The site is named "5 Pointz" any idea what kind of business it was?

Not sure if the building served as parking for somewhere else, but it one picture I saw a Lexus SUV or something in the parking lot and several other very nice vehicles.

This graffiti sucks.

I've seen much better.

Anyone who is involved in "fixing" that deserves capital punishment. Grafitti is really great and adds much taste to a city. Imagine a city without grafitti... They should stop fighting it and let it be.

Anyone who is involved in "fixing" that deserves capital punishment. Grafitti is really great and adds much taste to a city. Imagine a city without grafitti...

*sees utopia*

Grafitti is really great and adds much taste to a city. Imagine a city without grafitti...

*has lived in idaho and wisconsin - doesn't have to imagine*

though some people (who i totally do not know in the slightest) eventually took up stencil graf in both, which brightened the place up a bit

*sees utopia*

really?

Impressive enough in scale and impression, if not artistic merit.

Graffii has a place, and in an industrial context such as that shown, I think it is wonderful.

Very cool, some of the art up there is incredible. Some not so much, but I like it.

Too bad Banks hasn't visited and done some work there.

When graffiti is done in this manner, it can be quite impressive. Clearly, in this case, it is permitted and probably controlled to some extent. Pretty cool.

I like a little graffiti and grime in cities. It makes them more interesting.

This graffiti thing reminds me of something...

Am I the only one who was pissed off when they smashed that abandoned building in Denmark that had been used by anarchists, punks, left-wingers, and other such liberal types since the '70s? The thing was cultural heritage.

Also, no city will ever beat mine for awesome graffiti. Seriously. We had "FUCK WAR!" written in like 6 ft high letters on the second floor of a building.

This doesn't sound like much, but there were no windows nearby. So someone used a ladder or something. Like 90% of the graffiti in my town is political. And some of it is really intelligent.

Also, we ran Fred Phelps out of town.

Literally.

Yeah. I love my city.

I love grafitti.

I think all cities would be much more beautiful places to live if the law took away building-owners' right to prohobit people decorating their exteriors.

I love grafitti.

I think all cities would be much more beautiful places to live if the law took away building-owners' right to prohobit people decorating their exteriors.

You're kidding, right?

You're kidding, right?

Partially.

I love grafitti.

I think all cities would be much more beautiful places to live if the law took away building-owners' right to prohobit people decorating their exteriors.

we could just save a step and get rid of the concept of building owners

I think private homes should not be graffitied. Other than that, go for it.

Man, we have the best graffiti industry.

We call them murals (example 1 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Derry_mural_3.jpg), 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Loyalist_political_mural.jpg), 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Freedom_Corner.jpg), 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Rights.jpg), 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Civil_Rights_Mural.jpg)*) and get tourists to pay for tours of them.

Win!



*yeah, those are fairly tame ones compared to some. See this (http://flickr.com/groups/nimurals/) for more of the same and some more obviously violent ones.

Graffiti is great. You learn more about what people think from graffiti then you ever could from political polls.

Graffiti is great. You learn more about what people think from graffiti then you ever could from political polls.

Well, you learn more about what graffiti artists think than you ever could from political polls.

Man, we have the best graffiti industry.

We call them murals (example 1 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Derry_mural_3.jpg), 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Loyalist_political_mural.jpg), 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Freedom_Corner.jpg), 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Rights.jpg), 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Civil_Rights_Mural.jpg)*) and get tourists to pay for tours of them.

Win!



*yeah, those are fairly tame ones compared to some. See this (http://flickr.com/groups/nimurals/) for more of the same and some more obviously violent ones.

In NYC that wouldn't even be considered graffiti. What is considered graffiti here is more about a specific style of art rather than political messages. Murals on public walls are just called murals, which we also have a bit of here, although nothing compared to what's in Northern Ireland, judging by your links. The word Graffiti here carries pretty specific inclinations about style.

In NYC that wouldn't even be considered graffiti. What is considered graffiti here is more about a specific style of art rather than political messages. Murals on public walls are just called murals, which we also have a bit of here, although nothing compared to what's in Northern Ireland, judging by your links. The word Graffiti here carries pretty specific inclinations about style.

Oh aye, we have normal graffiti too, but that's the graffiti that draws tourists in :D

Oh aye, we have normal graffiti too, but that's the graffiti that draws tourists in :D

Tourists? Appreciate graffiti? o_O
Remember,
http://www.untitledname.com/archives/upload/2005/3/keith-haring-crack-is-wack-playground-1.jpg

:p

Seriously, *is jealous*



(and Keith Haring is amazing)

Dude...he misspelled "whack".

Dude...he misspelled "whack".

Artistic liberty. :)

Artistic liberty. :)

I think it was because the crack "wack"ed him.

:D

I think it was because the crack "wack"ed him.

:D

Now why would you say that? (http://w3.uniroma1.it/chemo/image/18ma03-8.jpg) :p

Dude...he misspelled "whack".

He was probably on crack.

Now why would you say that? (http://w3.uniroma1.it/chemo/image/18ma03-8.jpg) :p

That's all the evidence I need, he's on crack.

I like graifiti where it is acutally a picture or makes some sort of whitty/political statement. What I cannot stand is when I travel by train, there are also little tags on the under side of bridges which are in my eyes nothing. Just a tag, effectively saying "I woz here". Big deal.

I like graifiti where it is acutally a picture or makes some sort of whitty/political statement. What I cannot stand is when I travel by train, there are also little tags on the under side of bridges which are in my eyes nothing. Just a tag, effectively saying "I woz here". Big deal.

Why does it have to be political?

Their art isn't bad, some is quite good.. although on a building it just looks like shit. But beauty and art is in the eye of the beholder.

Why does it have to be political?

I didn't say it has to be politcal, I said that

I like graifiti where it is acutally a picture or makes some sort of whitty/political statement.

So it can be funny or a picture (nice) or all of those things, but for me graifiti is good when it is at least one of those.

That kicks massive amounts of ass.

Man, we have the best graffiti industry.

We call them murals (example 1 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Derry_mural_3.jpg), 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Loyalist_political_mural.jpg), 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Freedom_Corner.jpg), 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Rights.jpg), 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Civil_Rights_Mural.jpg)*) and get tourists to pay for tours of them.

Win!



*yeah, those are fairly tame ones compared to some. See this (http://flickr.com/groups/nimurals/) for more of the same and some more obviously violent ones.

Those are good..... Up top, didn't check out the violent ones.

Their art isn't bad, some is quite good.. although on a building it just looks like shit. But beauty and art is in the eye of the beholder.

I think the randomness makes it look cool. I guess we just have different tastes.

I think the randomness makes it look cool. I guess we just have different tastes.

Outside of gang/turf graffiti most of the artists have a positive message and that's cool. Use to be only the community saw it(and the random passerby/onlooker), and with a positive or hopeful message that is cool for the folk. Since the internet... when anyone can go in and snap a pic .. redo it and possibly sell it, I just feel their art would be more productive if they made it and copied it onto paper and sold it and had the option of using those funds for their community or cause. That's sad ... a day when you have to copyright your graffiti. lol It's here though. Watch Madonna or someone in the music industry use some of it in their next video. Giving the artist(s) no dues. But then again.. they put it on a public building for public use(If they aren't painting a private business or home I don't really care.. it's paint.. it's not like it can't be painted over).. I don't know.

Man, we have the best graffiti industry.

We call them murals (example 1 (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d3/Derry_mural_3.jpg), 2 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Loyalist_political_mural.jpg), 3 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Freedom_Corner.jpg), 4 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:NI_murals_Rights.jpg), 5 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Civil_Rights_Mural.jpg)*) and get tourists to pay for tours of them.

Win!



*yeah, those are fairly tame ones compared to some. See this (http://flickr.com/groups/nimurals/) for more of the same and some more obviously violent ones.

I very disagree. The murals are disgusting displays of sectarian hatred. The do nothing but exacerbate Northern Ireland's already considerable problems.

I very disagree. The murals are disgusting displays of sectarian hatred. The do nothing but exacerbate Northern Ireland's already considerable problems.

They're still cool to look at.

Graffiti is a great art form. Uptight authorities have typically been overzealous in the destruction of work.

pretty :)

Here is something you don't see every day. When I was visiting New York City, I came across this large building in Queens totally covered in graffiti. Much of it is quite impressive. It's visible from the 7 train. check out the awesome pictures here:

http://fraudwasteabuse.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/amazing-graffiti-covered-building-5-pointz-in-new-york-city/

Up until a couple of years ago that was something I saw every day.

Sighs. I miss the City. Hell! I miss the boroughs.

I very disagree. The murals are disgusting displays of sectarian hatred. The do nothing but exacerbate Northern Ireland's already considerable problems.

Nah they don't.

And they're cool to look at.

Up until a couple of years ago that was something I saw every day.

Sighs. I miss the City. Hell! I miss the boroughs.

Brooklyn>Manhattan. :p

Brooklyn>Manhattan. :p

You might be right graffiti wise. Other than that.. no.

Hey, man...that's my house.
Not really.

You guys want to see graffiti, take the westbound GO train through Scarborough. Never ceases to amaze me.

Oh wow.. that's pretty incredible.:cool:

Up until a couple of years ago that was something I saw every day.

Sighs. I miss the City. Hell! I miss the boroughs.

I liked visiting NYC but I don't think I could ever live there.

So it can be funny or a picture (nice) or all of those things, but for me graifiti is good when it is at least one of those.

I like it when it's offbeat or weird.

The best graffiti is Banksy. It's genius.

The best graffiti is Banksy. It's genius.

Yes.

The best graffiti is Banksy. It's genius.

Did you see this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6444501.stm

Did you see this?

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/bristol/6444501.stm

In November 2006, a gang of thieves dressed as council workmen stole a Banksy piece painted on the door of a derelict building in Liverpool.

How do you steal graffiti?

How do you steal graffiti?

I presume they unhinged the door. ;)

You might be right graffiti wise. Other than that.. no.

Well, technically speaking, Brooklyn is greater in both population and size.

And Manhattan is too expensive and rich-oriented. Brooklyn is more "real"... Or something.

I presume they unhinged the door. ;)

Bah! Thought that said "floor"!

But still, how would you steal it from a wall? :confused:

Bah! Thought that said "floor"!

But still, how would you steal it from a wall? :confused:

In the link? It wasn't stolen, the Council painted over it by mistake.

He creates something of a dilemma for local Councils - it is graffiti, and so they should be removing his work, but, at the same time, it's not just graffiti, and is actually quite popular.

In the link? It wasn't stolen, the Council painted over it by mistake.

He creates something of a dilemma for local Councils - it is graffiti, and so they should be removing his work, but, at the same time, it's not just graffiti, and is actually quite popular.

But the Lazarides gallery in London, which sells his works, said it would have been wrong to place a value on the former Bristol mural as it might have tempted someone to remove it.

Unless I don't understand the word "remove" in it's correct use..

Unless I don't understand the word "remove" in it's correct use..

Ah, gotcha.

hmm...

You could get some really strong men to help you pick it up?

Ah, gotcha.

hmm...

You could get some really strong men to help you pick it up?

Well there's a possibility!

Well, technically speaking, Brooklyn is greater in both population and size.

And Manhattan is too expensive and rich-oriented. Brooklyn is more "real"... Or something.

When people think of New York they usually think of Manhattan.

Unless I don't understand the word "remove" in it's correct use..

Steal?

In the link? It wasn't stolen, the Council painted over it by mistake.

He creates something of a dilemma for local Councils - it is graffiti, and so they should be removing his work, but, at the same time, it's not just graffiti, and is actually quite popular.

Politicians are too black and white.

Here is something you don't see every day. When I was visiting New York City, I came across this large building in Queens totally covered in graffiti. Much of it is quite impressive. It's visible from the 7 train. check out the awesome pictures here:

http://fraudwasteabuse.wordpress.com/2007/03/08/amazing-graffiti-covered-building-5-pointz-in-new-york-city/

What a pile of shit. Its funny how they post that you need a permit to paint there- It would be cool to get a group to go there and deface it the way shit graffiti defaces nearly everything else in the city

What a pile of shit. Its funny how they post that you need a permit to paint there- It would be cool to get a group to go there and deface it the way shit graffiti defaces nearly everything else in the city

So you support people illegally defacing legitimate grafitti because there are people who do it illegally?