NationStates Jolt Archive


I have a great analogy for socialism

Agerias
22-03-2007, 00:23
OK, let's look at the Jolty Jolt board.

The board is seperated into many, many forums, specific areas for people to seek what they want - answering questions, asking, trolling, telling jokes, sharing funny stories, analogies, political debates, moral debates, video games, tips on how to frag newbs - you get my point. All of this is divided for easier efficiency, and accesibility. If people want to talk about Lineage 2, for example, they go to the Lineage 2 forum, not the NationStates, or Spam forum.

However, what if everything were in a single section, with only about six forums (much like the NationStates area). If you wanted your NationStates question answered, you'd have to compete with all the people wanting their delta force 2 questions, and all the other dozens of games that Jolt has forums for. Those are a lot of forums to be condenced into one "general game discussion" forum! But, to add to that, everything would be run by moderators, about a hundred of moderators. Since it is so hard to keep track of lots of forum moderators, you'll have lots of abuse of power. So many topics, the adminstrator isn't going to read them all, making sure the moderators are kept in check. The staff would quickly turn into a beauricratically choked mess.

Not only would your "how do I get my economy to Frightening" take a long time to get answered, it might get locked because you dissed the moderator's favourite team in your signature. Or maybe it won't get answered at all, because about thirty seconds after you posted it, the hundreds of other people online (jolt has lots of people online at the same time) about twenty other topics were posted, bumping yours down.

And those 100 posts you made this month? The Staff would take about forty of them for the good of the forum.

Oh, and I forgot to mention, Jolt is already pretty buggy. Imagine if, instead of the dozens of sections Jolt is currently divided in, all of them were condenced. Huge database problems might occure if you have tons of data in less sections.

Granted, there are a few slight differences between a forum, and a country, and a economical theory applied to one, might not work for another, and you possibly couln't compare the two...

But I doubt that.
Soheran
22-03-2007, 00:24
No, you don't.
Agerias
22-03-2007, 00:32
No, you don't.
That hurts. That hurts me deep.

=[
Neo Undelia
22-03-2007, 00:33
You know when I saw this thread title I thought to myself, "I bet he doesn't."
You failed to disappoint.
Mikesburg
22-03-2007, 00:33
I have to agree with Soheran. It's not really a great analogy.

I suppose if you're looking at a statist-socialist message board, you would have a heavily modded forum where people are afraid to say what they mean for fear of the Moderators Party from deleting them.

If you were looking at an anarcho-socialist message board, you would probably have a large unmodded board with inummerable topics and discussion. There might be mods for certain thread groups, but people would then just leave and start their own thread group.

Actually, I don't even see how you put Message Board and Socialism together in the first place. But at least it's different!
Rubiconic Crossings
22-03-2007, 00:43
needs more work....a lot more work. In fact scrap this one and think of better one...just a suggestion ;)
Pure Metal
22-03-2007, 00:44
an antibureaucratic analogy? yes.
a potentially anti statist analogy? yes.
even a potentially anti-centrally planned economy analogy (and that's stretching it some)? kinda.

anti socialist? no.
Ifreann
22-03-2007, 00:44
In Soviet Russia, socialism has analogy for you!
Philosopy
22-03-2007, 00:45
I'm going to go with the 'no it's not' brigade on this one...
Cosmo Island
22-03-2007, 00:53
It would be far better if there were hardly any moderators. Then people would just sort out problems by themselves. Of course, if you happen to have a disagreement with someone who has a lot of friends they would have the power to regularly harass you and spam your threads into oblivion, while the mods will be too inudated with work to help. People could also do things like post excessively large images which mean that the forums are inaccessible for people with poor internet connections, but those people should go and get better jobs so they can afford a decent internet connection, am I right?
Greyenivol Colony
22-03-2007, 02:58
In Soviet Russia, socialism has analogy for you!

In Soviet Russia, that was going to say ME!!
Mentholyptus
22-03-2007, 03:13
In Soviet Russia, socialism has analogy for you!

And Ifreann wins the thread. Congrats. :D
Callisdrun
22-03-2007, 03:15
Your analogy sucks.
Secret aj man
22-03-2007, 04:32
In Soviet Russia, socialism has analogy for you!

funny shit....lol

if you buy the propoganda from the commies..good luck...i'll pass on the nanny staters and big brothers out there.

i always have my ass tighten when some no it all wants to tell me what is best for me...so unless your the one telling me what is best for me...then i suggest you sell your utopia elsewhere.

it dont work,unless everyone comply's,and i certainly do not!
guess i am stubborn and the impediment to the marxist utopia,if it aint me,it will be another.
hopefully
Lacadaemon
22-03-2007, 04:47
You'll not meet an actual socialist on NS, so you are wasting your time.
Soheran
22-03-2007, 05:26
You'll not meet an actual socialist on NS

Justify that.
Vetalia
22-03-2007, 05:50
You'll not meet an actual socialist on NS, so you are wasting your time.

:confused:

I can name a few right now...
Wagdog
22-03-2007, 05:56
You'll not meet an actual socialist on NS, so you are wasting your time.
O RLY??;)
Bodies Without Organs
22-03-2007, 06:28
This so-called analogy beggars belief.
Lacadaemon
22-03-2007, 06:30
O RLY??;)

Ya rly.
Lacadaemon
22-03-2007, 06:40
True socialism is the destruction of class and class barriers. It is the world where the history graduate looks the miner in the eye and both of them share a pint knowing that each of them are contributing the same to society and sharing equally the gifts that come from it.

There is not a single person on NS that touts that. It's Gucci socialism; nothing more, nothing less. It's the pretend socialism that lets us all feel better about ourselves because, well, "we understand". Even if they don't.

Frankly, it's pathetic. Go campaign for the working man, or shut the fuck up.

Or carry on kissing the ass of University Professors. Either one.
Lacadaemon
22-03-2007, 06:55
Mind you, I shouldn't talk. I'm still spending the 250 pounds I got from my miners settlement from tony blair.

Well done, fuckhole who pretends he is from tudhoe.
Free Soviets
22-03-2007, 07:23
so where is this alleged analogy?
Lacadaemon
22-03-2007, 07:28
so where is this alleged analogy?

It's a university thingy.
Lyras
22-03-2007, 09:14
True socialism is the destruction of class and class barriers. It is the world where the history graduate looks the miner in the eye and both of them share a pint knowing that each of them are contributing the same to society and sharing equally the gifts that come from it.

There is not a single person on NS that touts that. It's Gucci socialism; nothing more, nothing less. It's the pretend socialism that lets us all feel better about ourselves because, well, "we understand". Even if they don't.

Frankly, it's pathetic. Go campaign for the working man, or shut the fuck up.

Or carry on kissing the ass of University Professors. Either one.

You know, while I disagree with the fact there aren't any socialists within the hallowed halls of NS, your perspective is remarkably refreshing.

I'd share a pint with you, just for a laugh...

Also, incidentally, your name describes an aspect of history from which my nation derives its inspiration. Congrats for revealing an education greater than the proverbial great unwashed without rubbing it in their faces....
Laerod
22-03-2007, 09:17
Where exactly is the connection to the socialism in the analogy?
Free Soviets
22-03-2007, 09:24
Where exactly is the connection to the socialism in the analogy?

it's an analogy of some sort. and it's great. what more do you want?
Zagat
22-03-2007, 09:31
NSG forum; not the best place to source your analogies.
Pure Metal
22-03-2007, 11:32
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/2003/nsanalogyeb0.th.jpg (http://img204.imageshack.us/my.php?image=nsanalogyeb0.jpg)


'arf 'arf 'arf :D
Cameroi
22-03-2007, 12:36
i have a better and much more succinct one: simply not trying to make everything have to begin and end with little green pieces of paper.

acknowledging the simple reality that nature's diversity does not,
and that it IS nature's diversity and not arbitrary human constructs,
like monetary economics, that our existence as a species depends upon.

that had there never been an 'egalitarian' impulse, we would never have
left the trees and the caves and began the process of forming villages and eventualy larger communities.

of course one might argue we'd be no worse off if we never had, but even that isn't a compelling diminution of mutual bennifit and aid.

=^^=
.../\...
Bodies Without Organs
22-03-2007, 17:18
It is the world where the history graduate looks the miner in the eye and both of them share a pint knowing that each of them are contributing the same to society and sharing equally the gifts that come from it.

Question: given that knowing implies truth, does a history graduate contribute as much to society as a miner?
Trotskylvania
23-03-2007, 01:12
True socialism is the destruction of class and class barriers. It is the world where the history graduate looks the miner in the eye and both of them share a pint knowing that each of them are contributing the same to society and sharing equally the gifts that come from it.

There is not a single person on NS that touts that. It's Gucci socialism; nothing more, nothing less. It's the pretend socialism that lets us all feel better about ourselves because, well, "we understand". Even if they don't.

Frankly, it's pathetic. Go campaign for the working man, or shut the fuck up.

Or carry on kissing the ass of University Professors. Either one.

Oh, the fucktards never learn!

I'm about as working class as they come. I seek the destruction of the class system, and the end to private property. I tout it everyday of my life.