President Chirac endorses Nicolas Sarkozy
Congo--Kinshasa
21-03-2007, 19:41
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6474573.stm
http://english.aljazeera.net/NR/exeres/4F82CCF6-9A71-40BC-BD20-A4F80F9480F8.htm
http://www.france24.com/france24Public/en/news/world.html
Apologies if this has been posted already.
Andaluciae
21-03-2007, 19:44
Nails in the coffin lid of the Socialists, then?
Nails in the coffin lid of the Socialists, then?
Um, one politician from a party endorsing another politician from the same party?
"Nails in the coffin lid" of nothing.
New Burmesia
21-03-2007, 19:48
Nails in the coffin lid of the Socialists, then?
I wouldn't say so, Chirac isn't exactly, well, popular at the minute. But, things still look grim for Royal.
Andaluciae
21-03-2007, 19:56
Um, one politician from a party endorsing another politician from the same party?
"Nails in the coffin lid" of nothing.
The current electoral situation could have been greatly altered if President Chirac had chosen to endorse Bayrou, as some rumors floating around had suggested. Instead, this endorsement will confirm Minister Sarkozy's leading position in the election, and will not lead to the defection of voters from his camp to the UDF camp, as a Chirac endorsement for former Minister Bayrou would have done.
The Left is finished in this election.
The blessed Chris
21-03-2007, 20:04
Oh dear, I'm so upset that Sarkozy will probably win now. My eyes are welling up in despair.
Andaluciae
21-03-2007, 20:04
I wouldn't say so, Chirac isn't exactly, well, popular at the minute. But, things still look grim for Royal.
Royal's only hope was that Bayrou could draw party faithful votes away from Sarkozy, with an endorsement from Chirac. Given that this did not happen, I suspect a President Sarkozy to be in the works in a months time.
New Burmesia
21-03-2007, 20:47
Royal's only hope was that Bayrou could draw party faithful votes away from Sarkozy, with an endorsement from Chirac. Given that this did not happen, I suspect a President Sarkozy to be in the works in a months time.
Possible, but I doubt that Bayrou would have taken enough votes to prevent Sarkozy or Royal from getting to the second round anyway.
I'm sorry, but... I'm mildly amused to see everyone jumping in and saying it's a huge boost for Sarkozy. It isn't, for two reasons:
1) This was a mere formality. Chirac was expected to do so, purely for form's sake. Chirac despises Sarkozy; their political views are radically different. And Sarkozy "betrayed" him in 1995. In private, you can bet Chirac will be hoping Bayrou wins. But for Chirac to openly endorse Bayrou would have been a bombshell.
2) Both the PS and the UMP immediately made the most of this to claim that it means Sarkozy will be a continuation of Chirac, and that Sarkozy is lying when he says he's going to be very different. Sarkozy has been trying hard to distance himself as much as possible from Chirac. If anything, this is an inconveniance - albeit, in my opinion, a very minor one for him.
UN Protectorates
21-03-2007, 20:55
Je suis le Président Chirac, et j'approuve ce candidat Sarkozy. La France de Vive !
Farnhamia
21-03-2007, 21:04
I'm sorry, but "Nicolas Sarkozy" sounds like something I'd expect to be referred to a specialist for.
I'm sorry, but "Nicholas Sarkozy" sounds like something I'd expect to be referred to a specialist for.
"Nicolas", not "Nicholas". As for his family name, he's of Hungarian descent.
Farnhamia
21-03-2007, 21:12
"Nicolas", not "Nicholas". As for his family name, he's of Hungarian descent.
Pardon. *takes back the "h"* And yes, dear, I did recognize the Magyar-ness of his surname. Forgive me for trying to inject a little levity into the thread. :rolleyes:
Pardon. *takes back the "h"* And yes, dear, I did recognize the Magyar-ness of his surname. Forgive me for trying to inject a little levity into the thread. :rolleyes:
You're forgiven.
I was merely answering a question others might have asked. :)
Global Avthority
21-03-2007, 21:30
"Nicolas", not "Nicholas". As for his family name, he's of Hungarian descent.
Kick out that immigrant.
The current electoral situation could have been greatly altered if President Chirac had chosen to endorse Bayrou, as some rumors floating around had suggested. Instead, this endorsement will confirm Minister Sarkozy's leading position in the election, and will not lead to the defection of voters from his camp to the UDF camp, as a Chirac endorsement for former Minister Bayrou would have done.
France does not have a first-past-the-post system. The "defection" of voters from Sarkozy to Bayrou would be entirely irrelevant to the victory or defeat of Royal.
Andaluciae
21-03-2007, 23:44
France does not have a first-past-the-post system. The "defection" of voters from Sarkozy to Bayrou would be entirely irrelevant to the victory or defeat of Royal.
Unless sufficient voter defection were to occur, as to remove Sarkozy from the top two positions. A Bayrou-Royal second round would possibly have different results than a Sarkozy-Royal second round.
Unless sufficient voter defection were to occur, as to remove Sarkozy from the top two positions.
From first to third? Not very likely. Chirac isn't Sharon.
A Bayrou-Royal second round would possibly have different results than a Sarkozy-Royal second round.
It would indeed; Bayrou would win instead of Sarkozy. ;)
"Nicolas", not "Nicholas". As for his family name, he's of Hungarian descent.
... and nicknamed "le p'tit facho" ...