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About damn time too. Since he's been firing attorneys and replacing them with cronies, they got rid of his power, granted by the patriot act, that allowed him to appoint new attorneys without senate confirmation.

What do you call a law written out of the patriot act?
A good start.

94-2. Nice. :)

Good, we're finally seeing the legislative branch reclaiming their balls.

congress bitchslaps Gonzales

And better yet, according to Gonzo they can do it as hard and as long as they like ,as long as they don't rupture organs leading to death.

They should call up to his house every 15-20 minutes during the night too.

So far so good. Dubya of course is fully defending Gonzo and suggesting he won't be going anywhere for a while. Which means all we have to do to make sure he gets fired is to have Corny wholeheartedly jump in to Gonzo's defense and say anyone calling for his ousting is talking out of their asses.

It worked on Rumsfeld.

Why did Gonzales fire those attorneys anyway? He didn't seem to get anything out of it and it's already weakened the power of his office considerably! If I were the President, I would have explained this to him while he was pleasuring me.

I think everyone needs to get off speedy gonzales here. In case no one realises it, he did nothing illegal here. the lawyers serve at the pleasure of the President. When they don't give him pleasure anymore, he can throw them out.

And before someone comes along and throws it out there, Clinton did fire all the US attorneys in 1993, at the start of his presidency. That's when it's often done, at the start of a presidential term, not in the middle of one, and especially not after some fairly obvious phone calls from Senators and Representatives to the US attorneys. I mean, these guys are serious lawyers, did Domenici think Iglesias was going to forget to make a note of the conversation?

I think everyone needs to get off speedy gonzales here. In case no one realises it, he did nothing illegal here. the lawyers serve at the pleasure of the President. When they don't give him pleasure anymore, he can throw them out.

Yes, but usually you don't go giving the US attorneys glowing performance reviews and then turn around and say, "Oh, sorry, you're not working out, please clean out your desk." It was an incredibly blatant political move, come on.

EDIT: If anyone in the administration had half a brain, which is doubtful, they would have just promoted those eight people to the bench and got them out of the way. Kick 'em upstairs. That's what happens in the Private Sector with people you don't like but can't fire.

Yes, but usually you don't go giving the US attorneys glowing performance reviews and then turn around and say, "Oh, sorry, you're not working out, please clean out your desk." It was an incredibly blatant political move, come on.

EDIT: If anyone in the administration had half a brain, which is doubtful, they would have just promoted those eight people to the bench and got them out of the way. Kick 'em upstairs. That's what happens in the Private Sector with people you don't like but can't fire.

It doesn't matter if it was political, or mid-term. Niether of those things were illegal. I don't like Bush as much as the next guy but at least I accept the executive as certain powers. One of which is this.

It doesn't matter if it was political, or mid-term. Niether of those things were illegal. I don't like Bush as much as the next guy but at least I accept the executive as certain powers. One of which is this.

Word is Gonzalez fired them because they couldn't or wouldn't press charges against Democratic congressmen prior to the November elections.

It doesn't matter if it was political, or mid-term. Niether of those things were illegal. I don't like Bush as much as the next guy but at least I accept the executive as certain powers. One of which is this.

The excutive should have certain powers, yes. But appointing important positions WITHOUT OVERSIGHT has never, until the Unpatriotic Act, been one of them.

We can only hope the elimination of the Secret Police (oops-I meant Department of Homeland Stupidity) is not far behind.

It doesn't matter if it was political, or mid-term. Niether of those things were illegal. I don't like Bush as much as the next guy but at least I accept the executive as certain powers. One of which is this.

You're right, it's not illegal. It's not the way things are done, however. Like I said, if any of the Bush people had half a brain, they would have rewarded these people out of the way and put in people who would be happy to prosecute the Democrats. The way it was done, it looks exactly like it was, punishment for not prosecuting political opponents before the November elections. Just on style points alone, the administration fails.

Yes, but usually you don't go giving the US attorneys glowing performance reviews and then turn around and say, "Oh, sorry, you're not working out, please clean out your desk." It was an incredibly blatant political move, come on.

EDIT: If anyone in the administration had half a brain, which is doubtful, they would have just promoted those eight people to the bench and got them out of the way. Kick 'em upstairs. That's what happens in the Private Sector with people you don't like but can't fire.
It's clear that Bush's best days are behind him, but let's talk about the firings. Let's stipulate that the firings were political. So what? A lot of things that go on in Washington are a whole lot more political and cause a lot more damage that just firing 8 lawyers.

For instance, the emergency appropriations bill has picked up so much pork, that the USDA is going to need to inspect it. Half of the $21 billion that was added to the measure is non-military and not related to Iraq, Ashcanistan, or anywhere else that we have soldiers in harm's way.

That's political and harmful and I don't see much uproar about it.

It's clear that Bush's best days are behind him, but let's talk about the firings. Let's stipulate that the firings were political. So what? A lot of things that go on in Washington are a whole lot more political and cause a lot more damage that just firing 8 lawyers.

For instance, the emergency appropriations bill has picked up so much pork, that the USDA is going to need to inspect it. Half of the $21 billion that was added to the measure is non-military and not related to Iraq, Ashcanistan, or anywhere else that we have soldiers in harm's way.

That's political and harmful and I don't see much uproar about it.

Don't change the subject. The firings are just another instance of the arrogance and foolishness of the people supposed ly running this country. You just agreed with me, and I am so far to your left you couldn't see me with the Hubble Telescope. And I personally like a bit of pork.

Don't change the subject. The firings are just another instance of the arrogance and foolishness of the people supposed ly running this country. You just agreed with me, and I am so far to your left you couldn't see me with the Hubble Telescope. And I personally like a bit of pork.
Sure, I agreed. But it wasn't a bad decision, just bad execution, and just like everything else that goes on in DC, very political.

From what I read, one of the attorneys was involved in prosecuting the border patrol agents that shot a drug dealer. They gave the dealer immunity so that he could testify against the border patrol agents. That's not the kind of U.S. Attorney we need. Firing him was certainly justified. Okay, 7 more to go.

Sure, I agreed. But it wasn't a bad decision, just bad execution, and just like everything else that goes on in DC, very political.

From what I read, one of the attorneys was involved in prosecuting the border patrol agents that shot a drug dealer. They gave the dealer immunity so that he could testify against the border patrol agents. That's not the kind of U.S. Attorney we need. Firing him was certainly justified. Okay, 7 more to go.

I don't know about that case. The one in New Mexico involved allegations of election fraud on the part of some Democratic candidates or perhaps more correctly, some voter registration organization affiliated with a Democratic candidate. Seems that the New Mexico congressional delegation - the Republicans, anyway - were unhappy that inductments were not gong to be handed down prior to the election.

6 more to go.