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I wish I knew about this beforehand

Carnivorous Lickers
20-03-2007, 18:30
Free lots of land,over an acre each???

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17694975/


This would have made a great vacation home site. I wonder if any other towns will try this out and offer pieces of land to the first claimants?
The_pantless_hero
20-03-2007, 18:35
I doubt any place outside of Alaska or maybe empty midwest areas could do this. Around here everything is bought up by housing developers who are taking bets on how many houses they can put on an acre anyway.
Smunkeeville
20-03-2007, 18:36
darn it. I would have wanted one......
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-03-2007, 18:37
Free lots of land,over an acre each???

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17694975/


This would have made a great vacation home site. I wonder if any other towns will try this out and offer pieces of land to the first claimants?

Several Great Plains towns have been doing that, too. It started years ago, I don't actually know if any are still doing it but I would imagine they are.
The_pantless_hero
20-03-2007, 18:37
It was probably bought up by lawyers and doctors anyway.

It started years ago, I don't actually know if any are still doing it but I would imagine they are.
The legal statute stands, which is what is enabling them to do this in Alaska. They've done it fairly recently in Alaska before I think but not in the midwest for years.
Smunkeeville
20-03-2007, 18:41
http://www.argoniadevelopment.com/
Rhaomi
20-03-2007, 18:42
THE PROS AND CONS OF FREE LAND IN ALASKA

PRO: Free land!

CON: ...in Alaska.

SPECIAL BONUS CON: It's rural Alaska. With no gas stations. Or grocery stores.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-03-2007, 18:46
THE PROS AND CONS OF FREE LAND IN ALASKA

PRO: Free land!

CON: ...in Alaska.

SPECIAL BONUS CON: It's rural Alaska. With no gas stations. Or grocery stores.

And only 300 people. Half of whom will probably go insane and kill the other half during the winter months. :)
Call to power
20-03-2007, 18:48
I wish I had gone to a school that had 5 girls to every 3 guys :(
Neesika
20-03-2007, 18:49
Free land isn't going to make a big difference when building and living costs in the North are astronomical.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-03-2007, 18:50
I'm fully convinced that this somehow involves cannibalism

Funny, my mind was on a similar track. :)
Rhaomi
20-03-2007, 18:50
And only 300 people. Half of whom will probably go insane and kill the other half during the winter months. :)
Seasonal affective disorder can be a bitch sometimes... :p
Whereyouthinkyougoing
20-03-2007, 18:50
The legal statute stands, which is what is enabling them to do this in Alaska. They've done it fairly recently in Alaska before I think but not in the midwest for years.I only know about the Great Plains, there it started in the late 90s. I'm almost certain some places are still doing it as we speak. After all, if it works, other towns will have picked up the idea, if it doesn't work, towns are probably still going to keep it up because if nobody's willing to move to your town either way, keeping the free land program up is still a better hope that, should someone willing come along eventually, they'll actually choose your town over someplace else.
Carnivorous Lickers
20-03-2007, 18:50
THE PROS AND CONS OF FREE LAND IN ALASKA

PRO: Free land!

CON: ...in Alaska.

SPECIAL BONUS CON: It's rural Alaska. With no gas stations. Or grocery stores.

Free is a huge pro, to the right persons. Sure-this will appeal to outdoorsmen-hunters/fishermen.

They will develop the property to a degree-it looks like they are required to build on the land in a certain amount of time as part of the offer. This will bring some commerce and tax revenue to the area.

As soon as there is a need, there will be a store of some type-maybe a small general store/gas station with post-office boxes and a UPS counter.

I would love to get in on the ground level in a place like that.
Carnivorous Lickers
20-03-2007, 18:51
Free land isn't going to make a big difference when building and living costs in the North are astronomical.

poor people wont benefit from this,as far as I can see.

It will likely mostly be people that are in good shape to begin with.
The 9th founding
20-03-2007, 18:52
i would have taken some anyway.. never know when you might need some land in alaska.. or hell just leave it in your will for your kids. so they have it.. and when the worlds full of people,, sell it for loads :) .. or god forbid.. move up there
Monkey Nipples
20-03-2007, 18:53
I would love some land in Alaska. Just build a log cabin and set up a frozen pea farm. Ideal.
Utracia
20-03-2007, 18:54
And only 300 people. Half of whom will probably go insane and kill the other half during the winter months. :)

Then maybe it will be a place where we could find Stephen King as a neighbor. :p
Carnivorous Lickers
20-03-2007, 19:01
And only 300 people. Half of whom will probably go insane and kill the other half during the winter months. :)

"I'll tell you what- we return in the spring and everyone is slaughtered, I'll owe you a Coke".
Neesika
20-03-2007, 19:17
i would have taken some anyway.. never know when you might need some land in alaska.. or hell just leave it in your will for your kids. so they have it.. and when the worlds full of people,, sell it for loads :) .. or god forbid.. move up there

It doesn't say so in the article (nor does dismiss it) but generally when you purchase land there are time limits or expectations on development, and perhaps even residency.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-03-2007, 19:43
"I'll tell you what- we return in the spring and everyone is slaughtered, I'll owe you a Coke".

YAY! :D
JuNii
20-03-2007, 19:51
"I'll tell you what- we return in the spring and everyone is slaughtered, I'll owe you a Coke".YAY! :D

it's a sucker bet LG... after all, when you go back up there... there will be at least ONE person left. (cannabalism = SOMEONE is doing the eating!)
Redwulf25
20-03-2007, 19:52
it's a sucker bet LG... after all, if you return... there will be at least ONE person left. (cannabalism = SOMEONE is doing the eating!)

Yeah, but they might have died after eating the last person.
Lunatic Goofballs
20-03-2007, 19:54
it's a sucker bet LG... after all, when you go back up there... there will be at least ONE person left. (cannabalism = SOMEONE is doing the eating!)

That's usually when the ghosts of all those he has slain haunt him until he chops off his own head with an axe. *nod*
JuNii
20-03-2007, 19:58
Yeah, but they might have died after eating the last person.

with refrideration? would take a mighty long time to get to the point of starting to starve...
Lunatic Goofballs
20-03-2007, 20:03
with refrideration? would take a mighty long time to get to the point of starting to starve...

Unless they were all chinese people.

Because as we all know, if you eat chinese, you'll be hungry again in an hour. :p
The_pantless_hero
20-03-2007, 20:04
It doesn't say so in the article (nor does dismiss it) but generally when you purchase land there are time limits or expectations on development, and perhaps even residency.

I didn't see anything on residency but you have 2 years to build a suitable house on the land.
IL Ruffino
20-03-2007, 21:38
http://www.argoniadevelopment.com/

What requirements do you need to get the land?

I'd take the land, let it sit there, then sell it when the area is more developed.
Soviestan
20-03-2007, 21:54
You also have to build a house on it within two years. Plus its Alaska which means cold, plus there are only 300 people that live there. no thanks, I'll take sunny civilization.
Delator
21-03-2007, 07:36
I would love to get in on the ground level in a place like that.

Me too...

...I'd gladly go up to my armpits in debt to build a house there. If I can throw in a small buisness loan to open a small grocery store, then so much the better!
UnHoly Smite
21-03-2007, 07:49
I doubt any place outside of Alaska or maybe empty midwest areas could do this. Around here everything is bought up by housing developers who are taking bets on how many houses they can put on an acre anyway.



Alaska would be great! Drill for oil and get rich.
Non Aligned States
21-03-2007, 08:01
Because as we all know, if you eat chinese, you'll be hungry again in an hour. :p

Hey! I resent that.

You've just probably eaten at places with tiny servings. :p

Tell you what LG, I'll trade you a recipe for a noodle dish and if you go through with it, see if you can say you're hungry again in an hour.
Carnivorous Lickers
21-03-2007, 21:38
Alaska would be great! Drill for oil and get rich.

or-just get away from it all and enjoy some peace and solitute.
Global Avthority
21-03-2007, 21:50
Why would anyone want to live there?
The_pantless_hero
21-03-2007, 22:02
or-just get away from it all and enjoy some peace and solitute.
Or store dead bodies.
Relyc
21-03-2007, 22:19
Its actually lovely country, and almost everything is tax free. The free land however, is likely not in that area.
Gun Manufacturers
21-03-2007, 22:38
http://www.argoniadevelopment.com/



See, I have a problem with that development. There are a lot of rules as to what can and can't be built/done on those lots. First off, being that the lots are in Kansas, I'd want to make sure my house would be safe against a tornado damaging it (which I've heard can happen in Kansas). For me, that would mean a monolithic dome house (which is made from a rubberized airform, foam, rebar, and concrete). Unfortunately, a monolithic dome wouldn't be allowed on those lots. Second off, it says that any vehicle maintainance other than light maintainance isn't allowed on the property. I have a problem with that, as I'd like to start doing more of my own vehicle repairs (replacing a water pump, starter, exhaust, etc more than likely wouldn't qualify as light maintainance).

After I read those 2 stipulations, I stopped reading the rest of the restrictive covenants (so there might be more rules I disagree with). Free land is a nice wish, but does not being able to do what you want on it, really make it free? In my opinion, the answer is no.
Entropic Creation
22-03-2007, 20:12
A lot of small towns throughout the midwest have offers of free houses or land. Most of them have a long list of restrictions though; there is no such thing as a free lunch.

I looked into picking up a free house for a while - there was a very tempting offer of a free house (nice one too) with the only major stipulation being that I had to live there for a minimum of 5 years. While my business allows me to work from pretty much anywhere, I am a single guy. I need the social atmosphere of a city more often then the occasional business trip.

This sort of thing is great for young couples just starting a family. The town will help you find a decent job (they actually have plenty of lower end jobs, just not enough social life to keep people). The substantially lower cost of living, coupled with the free house, makes taking a $30k/yr job pretty attractive out there. Like I said, if you were married and were looking for a nice safe place to settle down and raise children, it would be perfect.

What they are counting on is more people living there to prop up the local economy. Everyone leaving kills all the local businesses, which just encourages more people to leave, until you are left with a ghost town. Offering a free house (which would probably just be abandoned otherwise and become an eyesore) helps to keep the town alive.
The_pantless_hero
22-03-2007, 20:19
What they are counting on is more people living there to prop up the local economy. Everyone leaving kills all the local businesses, which just encourages more people to leave, until you are left with a ghost town. Offering a free house (which would probably just be abandoned otherwise and become an eyesore) helps to keep the town alive.

With all the restrictions, I can only assume very few people take them up on the free land.
Entropic Creation
22-03-2007, 20:30
Come to think of it... I think the biggest downfall of these incentive programs is that not many people even know about them. You can offer the world, but you wont get any takers if nobody knows about it.
Carnivorous Lickers
22-03-2007, 20:53
Come to think of it... I think the biggest downfall of these incentive programs is that not many people even know about them. You can offer the world, but you wont get any takers if nobody knows about it.

Yeah-this one seems to have gotten some attention,but after the fact.