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Who can I sue for reparations? (and who could you sue?)

F1 Insanity
19-03-2007, 20:10
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?

-I was raised protestant, so surely my ancestors were persecuted by catholics, the pope owes me money

-France once occupied my ancestral homeland Netherlands, and destroyed the Dutch repubic, the french owe me money

-I'm sure the Roman empire once ruled my ancestral homelands, Italy owes me money

-Germany once occupied my ancestral homeland, I'm quite sure they owe me money

I am not greedy, if they all give me half a million they will never hear from me again. :cool:

So, Italy, France, Germany, catholic church: PAY UP! AND APOLOGIZE! :p
Arthais101
19-03-2007, 20:18
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?

-I was raised protestant, so surely my ancestors were persecuted by catholics, the pope owes me money

-France once occupied my ancestral homeland Netherlands, and destroyed the Dutch repubic, the french owe me money

-I'm sure the Roman empire once ruled my ancestral homelands, Italy owes me money

-Germany once occupied my ancestral homeland, I'm quite sure they owe me money

I am not greedy, if they all give me half a million they will never hear from me again. :cool:

So, Italy, France, Germany, catholic church: PAY UP! AND APOLOGIZE! :p


Can you please point out at what point anyone has actually received cash reperations? I am unaware of most situations in which this occured. That being said, institutions have apologized, and in that vein:

THe Catholic church has already apologized for its persecution of protestants and jews. Germany has already apologized for its past wars and aggressions. Rome as a political entity no longer exists, Italy is not rome. France I'm not familiar enough with to comment.

So you got your apologies from 2 of the 4, 1 of them doesn't exist anymore, and I'd argue that modern france bears no political identity to Gaul.

So...what's your problem exactly?
Arthais101
19-03-2007, 20:18
And as for the lawsuits, I do suggest you look up the doctrine of Sovereign Immunity.
Smunkeeville
19-03-2007, 20:19
my family faced discrimination when they moved to the US, they had to change their last name and everything..... doesn't really affect me though, I mean I never even had that bastardization of a surname, since my mom had a different name when she birthed me.
Ginnoria
19-03-2007, 20:23
I demand reparations of no less than two million dollars for the extreme mental anguish that I received from viewing John Travolta's shitty movies. That's two million EACH, Mr. Travolta, you suck that badly.

Except for Pulp Fiction, of course.
Rhaomi
19-03-2007, 20:23
There's a big difference between symbolic apologies by an existing government to distance itself from its past actions, and cash reparations for atrocities committed by long-gone nations thousands of years ago. Please try again later...
Kanabia
19-03-2007, 20:25
I demand reparations of no less than two million dollars for the extreme mental anguish that I received from viewing John Travolta's shitty movies. That's two million EACH, Mr. Travolta, you suck that badly.

Except for Pulp Fiction, of course.

I second that, and i'm also asking for three million dollars in compensation for every Ewan McGregor movie besides Trainspotting.
Omnibragaria
19-03-2007, 20:26
I demand reparations for the time I spent reading this thread. That will be two dollars please.
Ice Hockey Players
19-03-2007, 20:26
All right, here goes, I guess:

--I was raised a Protestant. My ancestors were persecuted by Catholics. Pay up, Roman Catholic Church.

--I am joining the Catholic Church. Catholics were persecuted in America during the 1920s. I demand reparations from every church that ever had a single member that harmed a Catholic.

--I am part Irish and, therefore, my ancestors were assualted by the British and denied rights by the American government. Both of them owe me.

--I am also part English, and my ancestors' homeland was bombed by the Nazis. The Germans owe me.

--I am also part German, and my ancestors' homeland was displaced and occupied for 40+ years. Therefore, the governments of the United States, Britain, France, and the Soviet Union owe me. Britan and France owe me double for the Versailles Treaty.

--I am also part Cherokee, and the whole Trail of Tears means that the American government owes me.

--My American ancestors were also put through the Bataan Death March. Pay up, Japan.

--And while we're at it, my grandpa was shot at by the North Koreans. Kim Jong Il can just write me a personal check.

--My other grandpa was killed by alcohol and tobacco. The liquor and tobacco industries definitely owe me.

--Also, that jerk who stole my identity when I was 19 still owes me. I can pay him, though, in the form of groin kicks.
Call to power
19-03-2007, 20:28
I'm English lets see….oh bugger I have £1.20 to divide up between the globe :p
Farnhamia
19-03-2007, 20:33
Since everyone owes everyone else, I figure it comes out even.

Oh, and F1? Half a million what? Plenary indulgences? Schnitzels? Bottle of wine? Kilos of pasta? :p
Zilam
19-03-2007, 20:34
I demand God to give me all the money he has for making me feel guilty when i do something bad. Its horrible mental anguish!
F1 Insanity
19-03-2007, 20:36
I demand reparations for the time I spent reading this thread. That will be two dollars please.

I demand reparations for you mocking my thread.

$ 3.50 please
Zilam
19-03-2007, 20:41
I demand reparations for you mocking my thread.

$ 3.50 please

"Three fiddy? AHH!!! its the god damn loch ness monster" -Chef's Dad.

:)
The Second Free West
19-03-2007, 20:43
I have German, French, British, Irish, cherokee, mexican, and a bit of african. Family has fought in every U.S. war since the spanish-american. So basically the world everyone in the world owes me something. Please send all checks to account #5810-6281-951 of the Swiss Financial.
Szanth
19-03-2007, 20:43
I second that, and i'm also asking for three million dollars in compensation for every Ewan McGregor movie besides Trainspotting.

Fuck you!

Assault on Precinct 13, Training Day, and Gattaca are badass.
Szanth
19-03-2007, 20:45
I have German, French, British, Irish, cherokee, mexican, and a bit of african. So basically the world everyone in the world owes me something. Please send all checks to account #5810-6281-951 of the Swiss Financial.

I sincerely hope that's not your real account number.
Zilam
19-03-2007, 20:46
I second that, and i'm also asking for three million dollars in compensation for every Ewan McGregor movie besides Trainspotting.

You can't be serious? He is like one of my fav. actors of all time! You...you...Bad person! :p
Soheran
19-03-2007, 20:47
:rolleyes:
The Second Free West
19-03-2007, 20:47
I sincerely hope that's not your real account number.

No of course not. (but you can try anyway)
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 20:51
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?
[...]
-Germany once occupied my ancestral homeland, I'm quite sure they owe me money

I am not greedy, if they all give me half a million they will never hear from me again. :cool:

So, [...] Germany [...]: PAY UP! AND APOLOGIZE! :p
Oh really? http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/really.gif

http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Wehrmachtsoffizier.gif Don't make me come over there and give you more reasons... :p
Johnny B Goode
19-03-2007, 21:04
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?

-I was raised protestant, so surely my ancestors were persecuted by catholics, the pope owes me money

-France once occupied my ancestral homeland Netherlands, and destroyed the Dutch repubic, the french owe me money

-I'm sure the Roman empire once ruled my ancestral homelands, Italy owes me money

-Germany once occupied my ancestral homeland, I'm quite sure they owe me money

I am not greedy, if they all give me half a million they will never hear from me again. :cool:

So, Italy, France, Germany, catholic church: PAY UP! AND APOLOGIZE! :p

Lolz.

The British occupied my ancestral home, India. (Actually, my dad was born in 1946, the last full year of colonization. Yeah, he's that old.)

Queen Elizabeth, pay up!

Very few people owe me money. :(
Greyenivol Colony
19-03-2007, 21:06
The whole idea of asking for an apology for a historical occurance is a bit dubious, because, despite the moral implication of the occurances at the time, if they didn't happen, then you wouldn't be here today. Now, regardless of how you may feel about slavery or imperialism, surely you value your own existance more?

For example, I'm a little bit Indian. If my nation hadn't've schmoozed its way into the Indian continent and brought it under colonial control, my great great grandparents wouldn't have met and I wouldn't have been born.

So y'know, swings and roundabouts.
Whatmark
19-03-2007, 21:12
So...what's your problem exactly?

Black people. I'm pretty sure his problem is black people.

Fuck you!

Assault on Precinct 13, Training Day, and Gattaca are badass.

I think you're confusing Ewan McGregor with Ethan Hawke.

Ewan McGregor was Obi-wan in the shitty star wars prequels.
Ethan Hawke was one of the kids in The Explorers (80s!).

Also, guess which one can actually do a british accent. :)
Szanth
19-03-2007, 21:25
Black people. I'm pretty sure his problem is black people.



I think you're confusing Ewan McGregor with Ethan Hawke.

Ewan McGregor was Obi-wan in the shitty star wars prequels.
Ethan Hawke was one of the kids in The Explorers (80s!).

Also, guess which one can actually do a british accent. :)

Well. Fuck you!


Big Fish was decent. >_> Lol
Neesika
19-03-2007, 21:31
Can you please point out at what point anyone has actually received cash reperations? I am unaware of most situations in which this occured. That being said, institutions have apologized, and in that vein: *snip*

People constantly get reparations mixed up with restitution too. As in, restitution for forced sterilisations for the mentally disabled (Alberta), restitution for those forced into Japanese internment camps (BC) or the racist Chinese head tax. In all of those cases, those that are still alive collect...and those that are not, do not, nor do their descendants get a cent.

So yes, in either situation, what the fuck is the problem?
Neesika
19-03-2007, 21:31
GN!!!!! Screen-breaking links!
Extreme Ironing
19-03-2007, 21:31
I thoroughly dislike the whole suing culture/mentality that has seemed to erupt in recent years, people really need to start thinking for themselves and growing some skin.
Phyrexia Nine Spheres
19-03-2007, 21:36
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?

-I was raised protestant, so surely my ancestors were persecuted by catholics, the pope owes me money

-France once occupied my ancestral homeland Netherlands, and destroyed the Dutch repubic, the french owe me money

-I'm sure the Roman empire once ruled my ancestral homelands, Italy owes me money

-Germany once occupied my ancestral homeland, I'm quite sure they owe me money

I am not greedy, if they all give me half a million they will never hear from me again. :cool:

So, Italy, France, Germany, catholic church: PAY UP! AND APOLOGIZE! :p

You could also probobly get some cash out of France and Austria for the Protestant thing, not to mention the Lutheran church since Luther didnt support the early Protestant rebellions.
And you can add Spain to the list of people that occupied the Netherlands. Or the Hapsburg family, at least. Im not sure if theyre still rich, though.
Lets see...you could also sue the British, if your Dutch ancestors were merchants at any point, since you can bet the BEIC tried some dirty economic moves with them.
Oh, and dont forget the whole South Africa thing.

So, youve got:
France
Germany
the Catholic Church/Italy
The British
The Hapsburg family
Austria/Hungary
The Lutheran Church
Spain

A half million each would put you in a pretty good situation, Im thinking ;)
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 21:44
GN!!!!! Screen-breaking links!
Better now?

Looked fine on my screen. I'm sorry. http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/cry4.gif

(Or could it be that you have smileys/pictures disabled? Then it's yer own darn fault! :p)
Neesika
19-03-2007, 21:45
Better now?

Looked fine on my screen. I'm sorry. http://www.studip.uni-goettingen.de/pictures/smile/cry4.gif

You could worm your way back into my good books with a good, firm licking.
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 21:54
You could worm your way back into my good books with a good, firm licking.
You know that nothing would please me (and very probably you as well!) more - unless by "licking" you mean beating. Then I really hope you want to be on the receiving end of the paddle. ;)
Darknovae
19-03-2007, 21:57
Hmm, let's see.

For the last eight years, I've faced major crap in my neighborhood. They owe me.

I would also like to sue both the elementary and middle school in my town because of the bullying. Now those wimpy little "Bulldogs" won't have their nice little spiked collars.

I would also like to sue the State of Virginia for being so crappy that its people feel the uncontrollable urge to move to North Carolina, whine that nothing's there, then urbanize it out the wazoo.

I would also like to sue the State of North Carolina for the first two reasons, plus not closing its borders to Virginia within the past five years (I moved here from Virginia eight years ago, at least 3 years before the Great Virginian Rush), and for those ghastly abstinence classes I had to endure in middle school.

I would also like to sue God for being an overall arse. I don't care if it doesn't exist. I need some cash.
Darknovae
19-03-2007, 22:01
:rolleyes:

We're just joking, So.

Do you really expect me to actually sue the States of Virginia and North Carolina?
F1 Insanity
19-03-2007, 22:01
You could worm your way back into my good books with a good, firm licking.

:p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p :p
Anti-Social Darwinism
19-03-2007, 22:04
I could sue the English on several counts:

1. My Puritan ancestors were persecuted for their religion and had to brave the North Atlantic in small boats to come to America.

2. My Scottish ancestors were outlawed for fighting on the side of the Stuarts, and had to flee to Ireland and then to the U.S.

3. My Irish ancestors were persecuted by the English and had to flee to the U.S.

I say they should at least repay our passage money and reimburse us for the lands we lost.
Neesika
19-03-2007, 22:04
You know that nothing would please me (and very probably you as well!) more - unless by "licking" you mean beating. Then I really hope you want to be on the receiving end of the paddle. ;)

On the receiving end yes, and both would be nice:D
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 22:11
On the receiving end yes, and both would be nice:D
Oooh... it would be indeed. :fluffle:

(*begs* Don't do this to me - you know not what the thought alone does to me. Yet, I like it alot! I might even be willing to experiment...)
The Black Forrest
19-03-2007, 22:14
Can I sue for having read this thread?
Neesika
19-03-2007, 22:15
Oooh... it would be indeed. :fluffle:

(*begs* Don't do this to me - you know not what the thought alone does to me. Yet, I like it alot! I might even be willing to experiment...)


You know that this is just going to make me want to torment you further.

I especially enjoy hair pulling, and biting. And lots and lots of dirty talking.

MUAHAHAHHAHAHAA! Have a great night!
Maineiacs
19-03-2007, 22:20
The disabled have been persecuted, euthanized, and demonized as "possessed" for millennia. All you bastards owe me money. :D
Gravlen
19-03-2007, 22:22
Can I sue for having read this thread?

God damn i, that was my thought too! Now I DEMAND reparations for reading the thread and include a demand for reparations from The Black Forrest for stealing my idea! :gundge:
Darknovae
19-03-2007, 22:35
You know that this is just going to make me want to torment you further.

I especially enjoy hair pulling, and biting. And lots and lots of dirty talking.

MUAHAHAHHAHAHAA! Have a great night!

I am now about to sue Neesika and GN for putting unwanted thoughts into my head.... :(
Minaris
19-03-2007, 22:36
I am now about to sue Neesika and GN for putting unwanted thoughts into my head.... :(

And me for revealing that your location is compromised? :p
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 22:37
You know that this is just going to make me want to torment you further.
Yeah baby, yeah!
I especially enjoy hair pulling, and biting. And lots and lots of dirty talking.
Not much hair to pull here, but I a have a nice neck for you to sink your teeth in. [I'll refrain from saying more - I really like NSG and would like to stay here without mod-action... ;)]
MUAHAHAHHAHAHAA! Have a great night!
You too. And sweet dreams. :eek::D:p
Darknovae
19-03-2007, 22:38
And me for revealing that your location is compromised? :p

You're making me lose more weight. :(
Minaris
19-03-2007, 22:40
You're making me lose more weight. :(

Oh, am I? *devilish laugh*

Well, your oversight cannot go unpunished, O Compromised One.
Darknovae
19-03-2007, 22:41
Oh, am I? *devilish laugh*

Well, your oversight cannot go unpunished, O Compromised One.

It's not like I'm the only one "compromised" on NSG.
Zilam
19-03-2007, 22:42
Oooh... it would be indeed. :fluffle:

(*begs* Don't do this to me - you know not what the thought alone does to me. Yet, I like it alot! I might even be willing to experiment...)


Pft, you don't want that type of torture???? I'd PAY for that type of torture :D
Minaris
19-03-2007, 22:42
It's not like I'm the only one "compromised" on NSG.

Well, I'm not compromised. And most of the others are adults, see. So they are allowed to be.
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 22:46
I am now about to sue Neesika and GN for putting unwanted thoughts into my head.... :(
Sorry, sweetie. There's little I could do. ;) [Besides, your location says you were in the back of my mind! :eek:]
Pft, you don't want that type of torture???? I'd PAY for that type of torture :D
Don't be stupid!
We're talking about Sin here. How in the world could I say no to her under any circumstances?
Zilam
19-03-2007, 22:46
The disabled have been persecuted, euthanized, and demonized as "possessed" for millennia. All you bastards owe me money. :D


Well I am suing you for being from Maine! :p
Zilam
19-03-2007, 22:49
Don't be stupid!
We're talking about Sin here. How in the world could I say no to her under any circumstances?

Well, you have a point there. I just want someone that I can't say no to, as well :p
Zarakon
20-03-2007, 01:13
I demand reparations for you mocking my thread.

$ 3.50 please

Really, there's nothing you could possibly do to this thread other than mock it.
Eve Online
20-03-2007, 01:13
Sue Jolt. Think of all the time we've wasted being addicts to NS...
Global Avthority
20-03-2007, 01:22
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?

-I was raised protestant, so surely my ancestors were persecuted by catholics, the pope owes me money

-France once occupied my ancestral homeland Netherlands, and destroyed the Dutch repubic, the french owe me money

you fail at life

You should sue your country's education system, or your parents for failing to teach you about the much more significant and prolonged Spanish occupation of the Netherlands.
Deus Malum
20-03-2007, 01:41
I demand reparations and an apology from England for its involvement in India. I demand reparations and an apology from Portugal for sending missionaries to corrupt India's people. I demand reparations and an apology from America for bitching about losing jobs to the cheaper and more qualified labor force of fair India.

And lastly: I demand an apology from Spain for its indirect involvement in the mislabeling of an entire continent of people, thus leading to confusion over the word "Indian."

Also, I demand donuts, lots of donuts, and possibly a healthy dose of intelligence for our OP.
Deus Malum
20-03-2007, 01:42
Well I am suing you for being from Maine! :p

I join your suit. I think we might be able to turn this into a class action lawsuit.
Andaras Prime
20-03-2007, 01:45
F1 Insanity I am sueing you for being MTAE.
Zarakon
20-03-2007, 01:49
F1 Insanity I am sueing you for being MTAE.

Nah, not reasonable enough. The thing was, MTAE's arguing style pissed you off because he was cold and never got riled about anything. F1 Insanity has none of this.
Sel Appa
20-03-2007, 01:57
As a jew I demand reparations from everyone.
Deus Malum
20-03-2007, 01:58
As a jew I demand reparations from everyone.

Can't argue with that. Though actually now that I think about I don't think India's ever had much to do with the Jews until recently.
Andaras Prime
20-03-2007, 02:09
As a jew I demand reparations from everyone.

I am a non-Jew, therefore I reparations from you.
Siap
20-03-2007, 02:21
I could conceivably sue England for their treatment of my Irish ancestors and I could sue Russia for the murder of several family members.
Greyenivol Colony
20-03-2007, 03:22
Can't argue with that. Though actually now that I think about I don't think India's ever had much to do with the Jews until recently.

Nah, there have been Jews in India since the days of the early Persian Empires.
Deus Malum
20-03-2007, 03:31
Nah, there have been Jews in India since the days of the early Persian Empires.

Yes but I don't think Hindus ever persecuted them.
Roma Islamica
20-03-2007, 03:41
Everyone seems to be getting reparations and apologies these days, and I've been thinking, maybe I can get me a slice of the action too?

-I was raised protestant, so surely my ancestors were persecuted by catholics, the pope owes me money

-France once occupied my ancestral homeland Netherlands, and destroyed the Dutch repubic, the french owe me money

-I'm sure the Roman empire once ruled my ancestral homelands, Italy owes me money

-Germany once occupied my ancestral homeland, I'm quite sure they owe me money

I am not greedy, if they all give me half a million they will never hear from me again. :cool:

So, Italy, France, Germany, catholic church: PAY UP! AND APOLOGIZE! :p

Do you live in America? If you do, American Protestants sure never apologized for persecuting American Catholics. And in the South, they still do tend to harass and belittle them. 25% of the US is Catholic, yet there has only been one Catholic president. Hmm.
Roma Islamica
20-03-2007, 03:42
Yes but I don't think Hindus ever persecuted them.

The Hindus have persecuted everyone who is not Hindu, especially in the 20th century. Muslims, Sikhs, Christians, Parsis, and yes, Jews too.
Kanabia
20-03-2007, 09:37
Fuck you!

Assault on Precinct 13, Training Day, and Gattaca are badass.

Yeah, that's probably because none of them had Ewan McGregor in them. ;)

You can't be serious? He is like one of my fav. actors of all time! You...you...Bad person! :p

My respect for you has just gone down. :P
Harlesburg
20-03-2007, 09:58
Britain owes me money for invading Aotearoa.

Britain owes me money for invading Ireland.

England owes me money for invading Scotland.

Germany for invading France as the Goths.

France for invading Germany as the Franks.

etc etc etc...
Rotovia-
20-03-2007, 10:07
I could sue you for the two minutes of my life you stole so cruelly away?
IL Ruffino
20-03-2007, 10:13
I'd sue Max Barry for making www.nationstates.net and thus creating NSG and thus making me lose out on "the real world outside of Jolt".