NationStates Jolt Archive


Do you obey the law?

Zilam
19-03-2007, 03:05
Well the "lesser" ones, such as not jaywalking, not speeding, wearing your seat belt, not killing mass amounts of people...-cough- erm... I mean yeah...whatever.

Actually, I want to see who obeys laws more, men or women :D

Poll coming!
Soheran
19-03-2007, 03:06
Depends on two factors:

1. Whether or not the law is bullshit.
2. Whether or not I'll get caught.
Soheran
19-03-2007, 03:06
I jaywalk when it is safer.

When is jaywalking safer?
Deus Malum
19-03-2007, 03:07
Well the "lesser" ones, such as not jaywalking, not speeding, not killing mass amounts of people...-cough- erm... I mean yeah...whatever.

Actually, I want to see who obeys laws more, men or women :D

Poll coming!

I speed all the time.
Rusted Chainsaws
19-03-2007, 03:09
Yeah, I jaywalk. All the time. I know, I know. I should be careful and all, and I am.
Zilam
19-03-2007, 03:09
I speed all the time.

pft, who doesn't? :p I caught myself doing 85 through a school zone today(which is 25mph). Luckily it was 6pm, and there were no kids around :D
Sel Appa
19-03-2007, 03:10
I jaywalk when it is safer.
Terrorist Cakes
19-03-2007, 03:11
I have a real problem with speeding and underage drinking (not at the same time, though...dear god!), but the rest of them I'm good at. Except the dog's offleash in public places. And the jaywalking. And the....okay, maybe I'm not as lawful as I thought.
Terrorist Cakes
19-03-2007, 03:12
pft, who doesn't? :p I caught myself doing 85 through a school zone today(which is 25mph). Luckily it was 6pm, and there were no kids around :D

Wait...Are your school zones still in effect at 6pm? Because here, they end around five, I think.
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 03:12
Well the "lesser" ones, such as not jaywalking, not speeding, wearing your seat belt, not killing mass amounts of people...-cough- erm... I mean yeah...whatever.

Actually, I want to see who obeys laws more, men or women :D

Poll coming!

Yes. I'm somewhat paranoid and always worry that I'll be caught, mainly because the one or two times I decided not to I WAS caught.
Cannot think of a name
19-03-2007, 03:14
When is jaywalking safer?

When the crosswalk killer is on the loose, duh.

I'm breaking the law right now.
Zilam
19-03-2007, 03:15
When is jaywalking safer?


When no cars are around, I suppose.
Rusted Chainsaws
19-03-2007, 03:16
When the crosswalk killer is on the loose, duh.

I'm breaking the law right now.

What are you browsing for? :eek:
Zarakon
19-03-2007, 03:18
I jaywalk all the time.
Soheran
19-03-2007, 03:19
When no cars are around, I suppose.

Safer, he said.

At best, in such a circumstance it would be equally safe to using the crosswalk.

When I'm alone, I never jaywalk.
Cannot think of a name
19-03-2007, 03:20
What are you browsing for? :eek:

I'm multitasking. And it's too frickin' windy right now...
Ultraviolent Radiation
19-03-2007, 03:21
I don't drive and there's no jaywalking law in England.
Marrakech II
19-03-2007, 03:22
I only obey the law when its something serious. However the trivial stuff I don't really follow them all the time. Speeding comes to mind right away.
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 03:31
I only obey the law when its something serious. However the trivial stuff I don't really follow them all the time. Speeding comes to mind right away.

Speeding is NOT trivial. Speed limits exist for a reason, usually the safety of yourself and others. I don't know how many times I've seen speeders on these mountain roads go careening off the side of the road into a nearby ditch or off the nearest cliff(luckily most around here are only ten feet high or so, so they don't kill themselves) because they were too stupid to slow down.
Maraque
19-03-2007, 03:39
The Autobahn has very little accidents for a road with no speed limit. The only downside is that when accidents do happen, they have more fatalities, but accidents overall are lower than those in the US.
Smunkeeville
19-03-2007, 03:45
I break a lot of the laws that are still on the books but no longer enforced.....my state happens to have a lot of really stupid laws about sexual activity.
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 03:52
The Autobahn has very little accidents for a road with no speed limit. The only downside is that when accidents do happen, they have more fatalities, but accidents overall are lower than those in the US.

Yes, well, you Germans(that is Germany, right?) probably teach auto-safety and responsibility better than Americans. Here...well, for whatever reason, people seem to be fond of considering speed limits idiotic and intentionally ignore them in favour of dangerous speeds. I was nearly run off the road off of one of those very cliffs I spoke of more than once due to a speeder.

Smunkee: Oh, yeah, there's that stuff that I ignore all the the time. For instance there's a law in this state that says it's illegal to fire artillary at buildings, so I have a minature catapult that I fire at my house all the time, occasionally in front of a passing cop. They give me odd looks but they never do anything about it. I looked up the sentencing on that law too: it's supposed be a minimum of ten years in jail. :D
Smunkeeville
19-03-2007, 03:54
Smunkee: Oh, yeah, there's that stuff that I ignore all the the time. For instance there's a law in this state that says it's illegal to fire artillary at buildings, so I have a minature catapult that I fire at my house all the time, occasionally in front of a passing cop. They give me odd looks but they never do anything about it. I looked up the sentencing on that law too: it's supposed be a minimum of ten years in jail. :D
somewhere it's on the books in my state that it's illegal to have sex with children in the house.

it's also illegal to use profanity in the presence of a woman, there is a fine and a 3 year jail sentence.....I found that out and said "oh, shit!" :p

Edit: I think I mis-worded that first line.....or forgot punctuation, what I meant to say is that it's illegal to have sex if minors are in the same household.
Imperial isa
19-03-2007, 03:59
somewhere it's on the books in my state that it's illegal to have sex with children in the house.

it's also illegal to use profanity in the presence of a woman, there is a fine and a 3 year jail sentence.....I found that out and said "oh, shit!" :p

Edit: I think I mis-worded that first line.....or forgot punctuation, what I meant to say is that it's illegal to have sex if minors are in the same household.

so that why all the kid's where outside in the old days
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 04:00
somewhere it's on the books in my state that it's illegal to have sex with children in the house.

it's also illegal to use profanity in the presence of a woman, there is a fine and a 3 year jail sentence.....I found that out and said "oh, shit!" :p

Edit: I think I mis-worded that first line.....or forgot punctuation, what I meant to say is that it's illegal to have sex if minors are in the same household.

Don't worry, I knew what you meant. A law like that makes no sense, and the one about profanity makes even less sense. My sister uses profanity all the time, so should she be jailed for it? Sheesh. Bloody censoring of free speech.

But then, old laws are always funny. Sometimes I want to go to the state congress and start up a debate on removing them, but then I realize that it's just so much more fun to disobey them and giggle to oneself without anyone else understanding.
Cannot think of a name
19-03-2007, 04:01
Ah, I love speeding on mountain roads...sorry
I don't drive and there's no jaywalking law in England.

You just let your Jays walk free unimpeded? Freaks...
Mikesburg
19-03-2007, 04:02
I think you're going to have a hard time finding someone who honestly never jaywalks, always puts on their seatbelt and never-ever-speeds. I generally don't jaywalk, usually put on my seatbelt and speed a little too often.

Other than those minor things, I'm generally a law-abiding kinda fella.
IL Ruffino
19-03-2007, 04:03
I do not obey all laws. And I shall break a law once again by buying, and smoking weed this week.
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 04:03
Guys, I forgot where we are dining tonight.
Imperial isa
19-03-2007, 04:04
Don't worry, I knew what you meant. A law like that makes no sense, and the one about profanity makes even less sense. My sister uses profanity all the time, so should she be jailed for it? Sheesh. Bloody censoring of free speech.

But then, old laws are always funny. Sometimes I want to go to the state congress and start up a debate on removing them, but then I realize that it's just so much more fun to disobey them and giggle to oneself without anyone else understanding.

know lot of woman who would be in jail because of that law
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 04:06
Real answer:
Absolutely not, and it pisses me off when people don't break laws and rules just because they are laws and rules.
There should be a law against that.
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 04:08
I think you're going to have a hard time finding someone who honestly never jaywalks, always puts on their seatbelt and never-ever-speeds. I generally don't jaywalk, usually put on my seatbelt and speed a little too often.

Other than those minor things, I'm generally a law-abiding kinda fella.

No you won't. I'm sitting right here. I never jaywalk or speed, and I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt. Always.

Ruffy: Gasp! And other words to express my shock! :D
Andaluciae
19-03-2007, 04:09
Speeding: I don't own a car, thus it doesn't occur.
Underage drinking: Not underage. Although, while I was still underage, in the long forgotten days of yore (three months ago and previous) I did partake heavily.
Jaywalking: American college student. Of course I jaywalk.
Bootlegging: Maaaaaaaaaaaaaybe...just a little bit here and there.

I do put on my seat belt when I'm in a car. I don't even think about it, it's just automatic.
Maraque
19-03-2007, 04:41
Yes, well, you Germans(that is Germany, right?) probably teach auto-safety and responsibility better than Americans. Here...well, for whatever reason, people seem to be fond of considering speed limits idiotic and intentionally ignore them in favour of dangerous speeds. I was nearly run off the road off of one of those very cliffs I spoke of more than once due to a speeder.I'm American, by the way. :p

I've been to Germany and driven on the Autobahn though, and I must say traveling at 130mph didn't feel any more dangerous than driving 65 in the USA.It's also true that their road tests are much more difficult and strict than ours, and they have a hard emphasis on road etiquette that is non-existent in the USA, as well.

Also, I think those idiots who almost ran you off those cliffs are just that, idiots. It's common sense, whether the speed limit on said road is 100 or 25; you don't go that fast on a road like that. I can't believe they're that oblivious to the danger. :eek:
Bamboozlements
19-03-2007, 04:57
I jaywalk around my state capital building, because I'm usually running late. The only reason I started doing it was because a few senators I'd recognized were doing it as well.

I don't do anything underage, and I don't have a license to drive, so I don't. I think I'm pretty clean.
Kinda Sensible people
19-03-2007, 05:31
I follow intelligent laws. If there were ever a law that I had the desire to break that was immoral, or if there were ever a law which I felt I had a moral perogative to break, I would break it.

I don't jaywalk or speed, because it is dangerous to others to do otherwise. I don't drink at all, so underage drinking isn't a problem for me. I do occasionally break copyright law.
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 05:52
I'm American, by the way. :p

I've been to Germany and driven on the Autobahn though, and I must say traveling at 130mph didn't feel any more dangerous than driving 65 in the USA.It's also true that their road tests are much more difficult and strict than ours, and they have a hard emphasis on road etiquette that is non-existent in the USA, as well.

Also, I think those idiots who almost ran you off those cliffs are just that, idiots. It's common sense, whether the speed limit on said road is 100 or 25; you don't go that fast on a road like that. I can't believe they're that oblivious to the danger. :eek:

Oh, whoops. Ehehehehe...my bad.

Anyway, I'd love it if we had Germany's harsh restrictions when it comes to driver's training and testing. It would certainly help matters around here, at least. As for why they're oblivious...I think it may be a case of rebellious teens or something like that.
The Brevious
19-03-2007, 05:56
Depends on two factors:

1. Whether or not the law is bullshit.
2. Whether or not I'll get caught.

"It's not a LAW, it's a THEORY!"
Kanabia
19-03-2007, 06:04
Depends on two factors:

1. Whether or not the law is bullshit.
2. Whether or not I'll get caught.

As a rule of thumb, yes.

I've broken a fair few laws.
Kyronea
19-03-2007, 06:10
I follow intelligent laws. If there were ever a law that I had the desire to break that was immoral, or if there were ever a law which I felt I had a moral perogative to break, I would break it.

I don't jaywalk or speed, because it is dangerous to others to do otherwise. I don't drink at all, so underage drinking isn't a problem for me. I do occasionally break copyright law.
I'll definitely agree with you there. If they passed a law restricting my free speech I'd break it every chance I had, for instance. Thus far I've not seen a law applying to me that I find a need to break, but it's just a matter of time, I'm sure.
Grape-eaters
19-03-2007, 06:12
I do not obey the law. Well, some laws, anyway.

I drink (underage), I purchase and partake in illicit substances.

I jaywalk.

I would probably speed, but I don't have a liscense.

I engage in illegal file-sharing.
Soviestan
19-03-2007, 06:25
nope.
Amor Pulchritudo
19-03-2007, 23:36
I'm a woman. I don't obey the law. I'm 17 and I drink, smoke in illegal places, do drugs, jaywalk... Really, what is anyone going to do about it?
United Guppies
19-03-2007, 23:39
Well the "lesser" ones, such as not jaywalking, not speeding, wearing your seat belt, not killing mass amounts of people...-cough- erm... I mean yeah...whatever.

Actually, I want to see who obeys laws more, men or women :D

Poll coming!

Yes I obey the law. Fuck yes.
Mikesburg
19-03-2007, 23:46
No you won't. I'm sitting right here. I never jaywalk or speed, and I ALWAYS wear my seatbelt. Always.

You clearly don't live in Ontario. What constitutes speeding really changes once you cross the border into the United States.

Canada: "Sir, you realize that you were doing 30 km/hr over the limit right? Now I know you were just trying to pass the driver in the other lane, but if you were only 10 or so over, I wouldn't have pulled you over."

US: "Son, you realize you were doing 2 miles over the limit? Oh, you're from Canada. Well, I know they do things differently up there, but here, on MY highway, you don't cross that limit, y'hear?!"
Dempublicents1
19-03-2007, 23:57
Seriously, I'm just going to come right out and say it. Anyone who says they always follow the law is lying through their teeth, especially when you get into laws like jaywalking, speeding, etc.
German Nightmare
19-03-2007, 23:58
For the most part, yes.

Especially when the laws are supposed to ensure that one does not endanger others.

Other than that: http://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y223/GermanNightmare/Spartan.gif!!!
Dempublicents1
20-03-2007, 00:00
Speeding is NOT trivial. Speed limits exist for a reason, usually the safety of yourself and others. I don't know how many times I've seen speeders on these mountain roads go careening off the side of the road into a nearby ditch or off the nearest cliff(luckily most around here are only ten feet high or so, so they don't kill themselves) because they were too stupid to slow down.

It really depends. Some speed limits are arbitrary, and have nothing at all to do with a safe speed for that road. Because of this, I think a lot of people begin to get the impression that all speed limits are completely arbitrary and can safely be ignored.
JuNii
20-03-2007, 00:06
yes. I do.
Mpoland
20-03-2007, 00:24
Often jaywalking is not dangerous, but I don't do it to respect the law. Doesn't anyone just plain "respect the law" anymore?
Rusted Chainsaws
20-03-2007, 01:22
Heh. Look at the poll. A lot of you guys are liars. :p
Divine Imaginary Fluff
20-03-2007, 01:31
*glances at downloads-in-progress*
Swilatia
20-03-2007, 01:45
I jaywalk when in Warsaw City sentre, so as to not go into those underground passages witch are filled with zombie-looking drug addicts.
Andaras Prime
20-03-2007, 01:46
In Soviet Sparta, laws break you.
Pure Metal
20-03-2007, 01:50
Well the "lesser" ones, such as not jaywalking, not speeding, wearing your seat belt, not killing mass amounts of people...-cough- erm... I mean yeah...whatever.

Actually, I want to see who obeys laws more, men or women :D

Poll coming!

pretty much. i wear a seatbelt, i go the speed limit in towns... i jaywalk, but thats not a crime here...

but then i speed on the motorway and probably do other stuff.

on balance i'd have to say "sometimes" (gosh, what an exciting answer ;))
MrWho
20-03-2007, 01:55
I used to jaywalk but I don't anymore, mainly because there is nowhere I go that makes it more convenient to jaywalk. Although I do speed and download illegally all the time.
Ifreann
20-03-2007, 01:56
I've probably broken a fair few laws. What comes to mind at the moment is trespassing(maybe breaking and entering on that one), underage drinking of course and supplying minors with alcohol.
Andaras Prime
20-03-2007, 01:58
I have downloaded copyrighted material from the internets, but I don't think it's a crime because I am socialist.
Ashmoria
20-03-2007, 02:01
the only people who obey ALL laws are those who are ignorant of the law or who pretend that they laws they break dont count.

so no, i dont obey the law completely.
Sumamba Buwhan
20-03-2007, 02:03
I got a jaywalking ticket years ago when I was in High School. It was actually at a crosswalk but I crossed against a red hand because noone was around for miles. Well, except for a hiding cop that waits for people to cross against the hand. I thought that it was because my friend and I looked like trouble, but the judge guessed the city I got the ticket in right away because he said noone else gave out jaywalking tickets. He actually would of let anybody who knew the origin of the term jaywalking off but noone knew.

I've gotten a speeding ticket, and let off a few times with warnings.

I've gone to jail for growing mushrooms.

I've gone to jail for trespassing because I climbed one of those gigantic steel power line structures.

Um, I've gotten a ticket for having drug paraphenalia.

I love chocolate rasberry cheesecake.

So, yeah, I follow the law to the letter.
Good Lifes
20-03-2007, 03:55
I obey the laws except when I'm carrying mail. The formula the Post Office gives their rural carriers makes it impossible to obey the law and do the job. So I run 50-70 mph on 35mph gravel roads.
New Stalinberg
20-03-2007, 04:46
I've lied to the State Department, Jay walked (biked rather), sometimes go 40mph on this hill that's only 30mph (everyone does it, I swear), and recently I smuggled a Cuban Cigar from Canada.
Curious Inquiry
20-03-2007, 04:55
Depends on two factors:

1. Whether or not the law is bullshit.
2. Whether or not I'll get caught.

/agree
Soviet Haaregrad
20-03-2007, 06:02
I break the law more then I'd like to admit.

Well, I don't really mind...
Risi
20-03-2007, 06:18
Breaking laws while still using common sense is the kind of thing that can keep a government in check.

By letting someone else completely decide what is best for you/your safety/etc, you give the government power and lose some of your own freedom.

Yes, I break the law, and I'm DAMN PROUD.
Cabra West
20-03-2007, 07:46
Well the "lesser" ones, such as not jaywalking, not speeding, wearing your seat belt, not killing mass amounts of people...-cough- erm... I mean yeah...whatever.

Actually, I want to see who obeys laws more, men or women :D

Poll coming!

I obey laws that make sense.
I happily ignore all others. :D
Similization
20-03-2007, 08:03
I obey laws that make sense.
I happily ignore all others. :DSame here, though I'm starting to get cowed. I used to break certain laws as a matter of principle, but it's just more trouble than it's worth sometimes. Prison's fucking boooooring.
Luporum
20-03-2007, 08:04
I live like my name is CJ and my town is called San Andreas.

also this is Sparta.