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Question about American nuclear reactors

Proggresica
19-03-2007, 01:56
After googling and wiki'ing and not getting what I was really after, I thought I'd turn to reliable ol' NSG.

I'm wanting to know the name of any towns in the US that were preferably located near or on a beach and has or had some form of tourism industry but which also has a nuclear reactor in or near-by the town.

I found a list of reactors on wiki, but it is massive, and far too big to go through and research one by one. So if anybody could point me in the right direction I'd appreciate it.

And for the record, nuclear reactors in the US, according to wiki:

Power station reactors

[edit] NRC Region One (Northeast)

* Beaver Valley, Pennsylvania
* Calvert Cliffs, Maryland
* Connecticut Yankee, Connecticut (Decommissioned)
* FitzPatrick, New York
* Ginna, New York
* Hope Creek, New Jersey
* Indian Point, New York
* Limerick, Pennsylvania
* Maine Yankee, Maine (Decommissioned)
* Millstone, Connecticut
* Nine Mile Point, New York
* Oyster Creek, New Jersey
* Peach Bottom, Pennsylvania
* Pilgrim, Massachusetts
* Salem, New Jersey
* Saxton, Pennsylvania (Decommissioned)
* Seabrook, New Hampshire
* Shippingport, Pennsylvania (Decommissioned)
* Shoreham, New York (Decommissioned)
* Susquehanna, Pennsylvania
* Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania
* Vermont Yankee, Vermont
* Yankee Rowe, Massachusetts (Decommissioned)

[edit] NRC Region Two (South)

* Bellefonte, Alabama (Unfinished)
* Browns Ferry, Alabama
* Brunswick, North Carolina
* Carolinas-Virginia Tube Reactor, South Carolina (decommissioned)
* Catawba, South Carolina
* Crystal River 3, Florida
* Farley (Joseph M. Farley), Alabama
* Hatch (Edwin I. Hatch), Georgia
* McGuire, North Carolina
* North Anna, Virginia
* Oconee, South Carolina
* H.B. Robinson, South Carolina
* Sequoyah, Tennessee
* Shearon Harris, North Carolina
* St. Lucie, Florida
* Surry, Virginia
* Turkey Point, Florida (hit by Hurricane Andrew)
* Virgil C. Summer (Summer), South Carolina
* Vogtle, Georgia
* Watts Bar, Tennessee

[edit] NRC Region Three (Midwest)

* Big Rock Point, Michigan (Decommissioned)
* Braidwood, Illinois
* Byron, Illinois
* Clinton, Illinois
* Davis-Besse, Ohio
* Donald C. Cook, Michigan
* Dresden, Illinois
* Duane Arnold, Iowa
* Elk River, Minnesota (Decommissioned)
* Enrico Fermi, Michigan
* Kewaunee, Wisconsin
* La Crosse, Wisconsin (Decommissioned)
* LaSalle County, Illinois
* Monticello, Minnesota
* Palisades, Michigan
* Perry, Ohio
* Piqua, Ohio (Decommissioned)
* Point Beach, Wisconsin
* Prairie Island, Minnesota
* Quad Cities, Illinois
* Zion, Illinois (Decommissioned)

[edit] NRC Region Four (West)

* Arkansas Nuclear One, Arkansas
* Callaway, Missouri
* Columbia, Washington - formerly WNP-2
* Comanche Peak, Texas
* Cooper, Nebraska
* Diablo Canyon, California
* Fort Calhoun, Nebraska
* Fort Saint Vrain, Colorado (Decommissioned)
* Grand Gulf, Mississippi
* Hallam, Nebraska (Decommissioned)
* Hanford N Reactor, Washington (Retired - see Plutonium Production Reactors below)
* Humboldt Bay, California (Decommissioned)
* Palo Verde, Arizona
* Pathfinder, South Dakota (Decommissioned)
* Rancho Seco, California (Decommissioned)
* River Bend, Louisiana
* San Onofre, California
* South Texas, Texas
* Trojan, Rainier, Oregon (Decommissioned)
* Vallecitos, California (idle research center)
* Waterford, Louisiana
* Wolf Creek, Kansas
Sarkhaan
19-03-2007, 01:59
Connecticut Yankee was about half an hour away from the shore, 10 minutes away from a decently sized city. Millstone is located right near the shore, and 3 miles away from CT's largest city
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 02:14
Connecticut Yankee was about half an hour away from the shore, 10 minutes away from a decently sized city. Millstone is located right near the shore, and 3 miles away from CT's largest city

Cheers.
Pepe Dominguez
19-03-2007, 02:16
San Onofre is really nice. Nice, mostly quiet beaches with great surf.. I used to live there, it was great.

http://www.emagazine.com/images/1101feat1b.jpg

http://www.roadsites.org/losthwy/us-101_cp/coastal_view_san_onofre.jpg

:)
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 02:30
That does look really peaceful, which is funny. It kind of blends into the landscape somehow hehehe.

If anyone cares, the reason I'm asking is because where I live in Australia, Townsville (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townsville), has been proposed as a good spot for a nuclear reactor (thought I'm not sure how likely this actually is). One of our main industries is eco-tourism, and some people are afraid this will have a negative affect on it, so I'm searching for any precedents for or against for a journalism assignment. One example is obviously not a consensus, but would be great story-wise.
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 02:31
Both Connecticut Yankee and Millstone are inactive. Thanks CL and P, due to that misguided closing, our electric bills are sky high.

I'd like to add the Connecticut Yankee is just a stones throw away from Hartford. Just outside of Millstone is some excellent fishing, however. The lukewarm water from the cooling ponds is simply amazing for attracting the schoolie stripers.
Sarkhaan
19-03-2007, 02:38
Both Connecticut Yankee and Millstone are inactive. Thanks CL and P, due to that misguided closing, our electric bills are sky high.

I'd like to add the Connecticut Yankee is just a stones throw away from Hartford. Just outside of Millstone is some excellent fishing, however. The lukewarm water from the cooling ponds is simply amazing for attracting the schoolie stripers.

I didn't realize millstone had closed...doesn't surprise me considering the mismanagement.

and I, too, used to fish by the plant
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 02:40
I seem to have been misguided there, Unit 1 has been shut down, but 2 and 3 are still operating. But in 1996 it got shut down for a year, so I wasn't totally wrong.
Sarkhaan
19-03-2007, 02:45
I seem to have been misguided there, Unit 1 has been shut down, but 2 and 3 are still operating. But in 1996 it got shut down for a year, so I wasn't totally wrong.

ahhhh...okay. makes sense
Sel Appa
19-03-2007, 02:52
Nukes FTW
UN Protectorates
19-03-2007, 02:52
Er. Isn't anyone suspicious of our comrade posters intentions?

Nuclear reactor + tourist industry + beach/coast + America + Inside/Next to populated town = Potential target?

Either Proggresica is a big nuclear plant enthusiast or a terrorist plotter.
Corneliu
19-03-2007, 02:53
* Beaver Valley, Pennsylvania

about 15 minutes from my front door and sits near the Ohio River.

* Three Mile Island, Pennsylvania

About 45 minutes or so from the University I currently attend. Sits on a beautiful river. Had a problem 3 decades ago but nothing major happened.

As to the question, that's all I know :D
Sarkhaan
19-03-2007, 02:54
Er. Isn't anyone suspicious of our comrade posters intentions?

Nuclear reactor + tourist industry + beach/coast + America + Inside/Next to populated town = Potential target?

Either Proggresica is a big nuclear plant enthusiast or a terrorist plotter.
something tells me a terrorist plotter wouldn't be so lazy as to not feel like looking up where the plants are, considering the information is readily available.
Gaithersburg
19-03-2007, 03:08
Well, Calvert Cliffs isn't too far away from my college and its right on the Chesapeake Bay.
Druidville
19-03-2007, 03:11
Grand Gulf, Near Port Gibson, MS. Very Nice Civil War battlefield, near the Mississippi River, and upriver from Natchez, MS. Nice Place, if a smidge remote.
Marrakech II
19-03-2007, 03:19
something tells me a terrorist plotter wouldn't be so lazy as to not feel like looking up where the plants are, considering the information is readily available.

I know that sounds a bit like terrorist telling of the airplane plot to strippers at a club in Florida. Wait that already happened! Eyes OP suspiciously....
Zarakon
19-03-2007, 03:25
Why the hell do you want a nuclear reactor near the beach? Are you trying to irridate the oceans or something?
NERVUN
19-03-2007, 03:32
About 45 minutes or so from the University I currently attend. Sits on a beautiful river. Had a problem 3 decades ago but nothing major happened.
That's the first time I have ever heard a partial nuclear meltdown described as nothing major.
Marrakech II
19-03-2007, 03:32
That's the first time I have ever heard a partial nuclear meltdown described as nothing major.

That was a major deal. I remember 3 mile island very well. Everyone was in panic at the time.
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 03:42
The reason I mentioned that was because my town is on the beach and has been rumoured to be a possible spot for a nuclear reactor, so tourism changes on similar locations would be interesting to know.



lol. A little from column A, a little from column B.

Just don't mess with football. You'll be fine if you don't do that.
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 03:43
Why the hell do you want a nuclear reactor near the beach? Are you trying to irridate the oceans or something?

The reason I mentioned that was because my town is on the beach and has been rumoured to be a possible spot for a nuclear reactor, so tourism changes on similar locations would be interesting to know.

Er. Isn't anyone suspicious of our comrade posters intentions?

Nuclear reactor + tourist industry + beach/coast + America + Inside/Next to populated town = Potential target?

Either Proggresica is a big nuclear plant enthusiast or a terrorist plotter.

lol. A little from column A, a little from column B.
NERVUN
19-03-2007, 03:47
The reason I mentioned that was because my town is on the beach and has been rumoured to be a possible spot for a nuclear reactor, so tourism changes on similar locations would be interesting to know.
Not quite what you're looking for, but Nevada managed to built a nice tourism industry from the above ground tests at the Nevada Test Site close to Las Vegas. Kinda died after finding out that fallout is not good for you.

I take that back, actually there's still an industry for people to go to the site and take a look.
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 03:50
Meh, not really what I meant. Already got enough responses to keep me busy but anyway. Cheers.
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 03:51
Just don't mess with football. You'll be fine if you don't do that.

That all depends on what you mean by 'football'. :P
Pyotr
19-03-2007, 03:51
That's the first time I have ever heard a partial nuclear meltdown described as nothing major.

A meltdown is certainly a serious accident. But if IIRC the amount of radiation leaked was less than what person experiences on average every year naturally.
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 03:57
That all depends on what you mean by 'football'. :P

Late 2006, this guy made a bunch of posts at [this place] about how on October 18th, there would be multiple dirty bombs which would go off at football games that day simultaniously. The fallout (lol pun) would cause the next World War, and subsequently the fall of the Western world. It was a joke, but was not treated as such. He is now in prison. Needless to say, the goers of [that place] lol'd hard. So, guys,
DONT MESS WITH FOOTBALL!
Pyotr
19-03-2007, 03:57
Thankfully that is the case (We hope, they're still doing research), but I would hardly catagorize it as "nothing major" though.

I agree. I'm willing to bet there were a number of "what ifs" that could have put 3 mile island in the realm of Chernobyl.
NERVUN
19-03-2007, 03:59
A meltdown is certainly a serious accident. But if IIRC the amount of radiation leaked was less than what person experiences on average every year naturally.
Thankfully that is the case (We hope, they're still doing research), but I would hardly catagorize it as "nothing major" though.
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 04:06
Late 2006, this guy made a bunch of posts at [this place] about how on October 18th, there would be multiple dirty bombs which would go off at football games that day simultaniously. The fallout (lol pun) would cause the next World War, and subsequently the fall of the Western world. It was a joke, but was not treated as such. He is now in prison. Needless to say, the goers of [that place] lol'd hard. So, guys,
DONT MESS WITH FOOTBALL!

I think the bigger issue is whether, when you say 'football', you mean actual football.
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 04:10
I think the bigger issue is whether, when you say 'football', you mean actual football.

No, I mean the American rugby knockoff.

Which is still awesome, by the way. You Europeans and Aussies would understand that if you just played it (or watched it, for that matter) once or twice.
Proggresica
19-03-2007, 04:19
No, I mean the American rugby knockoff.

Which is still awesome, by the way. You Europeans and Aussies would understand that if you just played it (or watched it, for that matter) once or twice.

We have. It gets shown on pay TV here and the superbowl is on free-to-air and always makes the news. Also, a few years ago they had two of the big teams play a game here. There was tons of hype about it and it sold out I think. Then it was on and everyone was like, "what the fuck was that". It is so bloody slow.
UNITIHU
19-03-2007, 04:20
We have. It gets shown on pay TV here and the superbowl is on free-to-air and always makes the news. Also, a few years ago they had two of the big teams play a game here. There was tons of hype about it and it sold out I think. Then it was on and everyone was like, "what the fuck was that". It is so bloody slow.

Eh, I always view football as a giant game of chess, with big, sweaty, steroid-free(lol) men instead of pieces. View it like that, and it's pretty cool.
Kind of reminds me of a demotivational poster I saw once

Fantasy Football

It's like Dungeons and Dragons for guys who beat up guys who played Dungeons and Dragons.
NERVUN
19-03-2007, 04:20
I agree. I'm willing to bet there were a number of "what ifs" that could have put 3 mile island in the realm of Chernobyl.
Indeed. Chernobyl really made it clear just what Three Mile Island could have been.
Kanabia
19-03-2007, 06:14
Er. Isn't anyone suspicious of our comrade posters intentions?

Nuclear reactor + tourist industry + beach/coast + America + Inside/Next to populated town = Potential target?

Either Proggresica is a big nuclear plant enthusiast or a terrorist plotter.

rofl.
Sarkhaan
19-03-2007, 06:16
I know that sounds a bit like terrorist telling of the airplane plot to strippers at a club in Florida. Wait that already happened! Eyes OP suspiciously....

Ahh...but strippers have something to bargain with that none of us can readily display. I'll give you a hint:
http://www.koppelquests.net/IMAGES/April_22/images/IMGP5393.jpg
Kanabia
19-03-2007, 06:26
Ahh...but strippers have something to bargain with that none of us can readily display. I'll give you a hint:


http://www.wpcc.org.uk/images/tits.jpg

:)
Sarkhaan
19-03-2007, 06:40
http://www.wpcc.org.uk/images/tits.jpg

:)

http://fusionanomaly.net/owl.jpg
:cool:
Christmahanikwanzikah
19-03-2007, 07:50
Indeed. Chernobyl really made it clear just what Three Mile Island could have been.

Agreed, though US plants are much safer than ex-Soviet plants. They essentially have one major design difference - the way they are cooled.
Vetalia
19-03-2007, 08:07
Agreed, though US plants are much safer than ex-Soviet plants. They essentially have one major design difference - the way they are cooled.

Yeah, chances are we would never see a Chernobyl-scale disaster in the US. A major accident, if it occurs, would be quite bad, but the massive differences in engineering and safety that are built in to US plants as opposed to those in Chernobyl and the rest of the Eastern Bloc would greatly reduce any possible damage.
Christmahanikwanzikah
19-03-2007, 08:29
Yeah, chances are we would never see a Chernobyl-scale disaster in the US. A major accident, if it occurs, would be quite bad, but the massive differences in engineering and safety that are built in to US plants as opposed to those in Chernobyl and the rest of the Eastern Bloc would greatly reduce any possible damage.

i was going to go into detail about the whole graphite-cooled vs. pressurized-water systems kind of thing, but a nice "no, not in the us" sums it up nicely.

its good to see all those engineering redundancies work, too. i mean, they can even flood the reactor with concrete... you dont see that kind of thing anywhere in modern day Russia... mostly because of chernobyl :)
Corneliu
19-03-2007, 13:07
That's the first time I have ever heard a partial nuclear meltdown described as nothing major.

Well it was as all the safety features kicked in and ZERO radiation was released. :D
Corneliu
19-03-2007, 13:08
A meltdown is certainly a serious accident. But if IIRC the amount of radiation leaked was less than what person experiences on average every year naturally.

yep.
Agawamawaga
19-03-2007, 13:17
Seabrook NH is also a beach, and I guess a tourist place. Why people choose to go to a beach area where the water is never above 60, and is full of degenerates and miscreants is beyond me. (I grew up near there, avoided the Hampton/Seabrook area at all costs)

I remember the hulabaloo when Seabrook was opened. There haven't been any problems, and I'll bet that the fact that there is a nuclear power plant in the area rarely crosses anyones mind anymore.
Compulsive Depression
19-03-2007, 13:21
Why the hell do you want a nuclear reactor near the beach? Are you trying to irridate the oceans or something?

Quite a lot of nuclear reactors are near the sea; they use the water for cooling.
Corneliu
19-03-2007, 13:34
I wonder how he would describe Chernobyl.

'Oh, there was a bit of an accident that ruffled some people's feathers.'

... Chernobyl just has to be one of the best sounding names ever.

An accident that should not have happened if the Soviets did not turn off all of their safeties.

To bad they couldn't sue the russian government for that disaster.
The Infinite Dunes
19-03-2007, 13:36
That's the first time I have ever heard a partial nuclear meltdown described as nothing major.I wonder how he would describe Chernobyl.

'Oh, there was a bit of an accident that ruffled some people's feathers.'

... Chernobyl just has to be one of the best sounding names ever.
Bubabalu
19-03-2007, 20:35
i was going to go into detail about the whole graphite-cooled vs. pressurized-water systems kind of thing, but a nice "no, not in the us" sums it up nicely.

its good to see all those engineering redundancies work, too. i mean, they can even flood the reactor with concrete... you dont see that kind of thing anywhere in modern day Russia... mostly because of chernobyl :)

Just goes to show that all the safety systems at TMI worked the way they were supposed to work, keep it all in the reactor vessel instead of letting it out into the environment. But while we are at it, does Europe (West) still use Nuke plants for about 70% of their electrical power?

The main difference is that in Europe they use a few designs in power plants, whereas in the US, there is no set standard as to designs.

Vic
Ginnoria
19-03-2007, 20:45
i was going to go into detail about the whole graphite-cooled vs. pressurized-water systems kind of thing, but a nice "no, not in the us" sums it up nicely.

its good to see all those engineering redundancies work, too. i mean, they can even flood the reactor with concrete... you dont see that kind of thing anywhere in modern day Russia... mostly because of chernobyl :)

UNLESS, of course, terrorists steal a security override and make the reactors meltdown automatically by disabling the security features, only to be stopped just in time by the heroic Counter-Terrorists.
Pyotr
19-03-2007, 21:07
Agreed, though US plants are much safer than ex-Soviet plants. They essentially have one major design difference - the way they are cooled.

Yep, although the former Soviet countries have taken measure to improve the safety on their RBMKs since Chernobyl. They've done something to lower the positive void coefficient, increased the number of control rods, taken off the graphite tips on the control rods(the flaw that caused Chernobyl), and decreased the time it takes to shut them down.

Pressurized water reactors are still definitely safer, though.
Neo Bretonnia
19-03-2007, 21:11
That was a major deal. I remember 3 mile island very well. Everyone was in panic at the time.

People were in an unnecessary panic. Irrational fear does not a genuine emergency make.

Calvert Cliffs, MD is near a lot of popular beaches in the Chesapeake Bay. The plant is active.
Marrakech II
19-03-2007, 22:04
People were in an unnecessary panic. Irrational fear does not a genuine emergency make.

Calvert Cliffs, MD is near a lot of popular beaches in the Chesapeake Bay. The plant is active.

True, however no one knew at the time how bad it was going to get. It looked as if it was going to be a full blown meltdown. Thank God it wasn't but it is all in the moment. It is easy now to say it was an unnecessary panic.