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The global warming conspiracy to destroy masculinity

Soheran
18-03-2007, 01:27
Because environmentalism is just emasculation.

Global Warming: Moving Towards Metrosexuals (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272612158.shtml)

The latest point of emphasis in the global warming movement is that cattle farming endangers the planet by producing too much methane. So now, steaks and hamburgers are classified as instruments of destruction, along with large vehicles, lawn mowers, and charcoal grills. It can't be much longer before cowboy movies, cigars and hockey are held to be enemies of the earth as well.

This has got to be the most blatant assault on guyhood since ABC moved Coach to the same night as Roseanne, and turned Hayden Fox into Phil Donahue. It's a wonder that liberals don't cut to the chase, by simply claiming that global warming is caused by testosterone. Then, they could make public school nurses siphon the offending fluid from the boys during health class.

Many environmentalists believe that the earth is a living organism, personified by the Greek goddess Gaia. Conveniently, it turns out that Gaia is a shrew, who demands that her men be reduced to henpecked, metrosexual noodles. Manliness makes Gaia angry, and we wouldn't like her when she's angry, because she'll turn into a green monster and start smashing everything to bits. Hell hath no fury like an earth goddess exposed to excessive cattle-produced methane emissions.
Philosopy
18-03-2007, 01:34
Global warming ate my hamster.
Zilam
18-03-2007, 01:36
OMG, like this article is so FAB U LOUS!!!!
Radical Centrists
18-03-2007, 01:37
That is the most awesome and hilarious conclusion leap I've seen in a while. Seriously, who comes up with this stuff? :D
Soheran
18-03-2007, 01:41
That is the most awesome and hilarious conclusion leap I've seen in a while. Seriously, who comes up with this stuff? :D

I found it on the Drudge Report.

Just goes to show....
Utracia
18-03-2007, 01:44
*eats hamburger cooked on charcoal grill*

*does part to unnaturally warm the Earth*
UNITIHU
18-03-2007, 02:01
Sounds like something Hal Turner would say.
South Lizasauria
18-03-2007, 02:02
Because environmentalism is just emasculation.

Global Warming: Moving Towards Metrosexuals (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272612158.shtml)

It's quite obvious that some liberals and some homos are like Nazi Spain and Nazi Germany. They have the "If your not gay or not liberal you need to either become liberal or gay or be eliminated" mindset. Its sickening.
Soheran
18-03-2007, 02:03
It's quite obvious that some liberals and some homos are like Nazi Spain and Nazi Germany. They have the "If your not gay or not liberal you need to either become liberal or gay or be eliminated" mindset. Its sickening.

And, naturally, demonstrating this "obvious" fact would be quite easy, right?

Go ahead. I'm waiting.
Pyotr
18-03-2007, 02:04
Screw gender roles and expectations, people should define the meaning of their lives/lifestyles for themselves.
Soheran
18-03-2007, 02:07
Screw gender roles and expectations, people should define the meaning of their lives/lifestyles for themselves.

:eek:

Clearly, you're part of the evil effeminate homo liberal terrorist Muslim atheist global warming conspiracy!
South Lizasauria
18-03-2007, 02:15
And, naturally, demonstrating this "obvious" fact would be quite easy, right?

Go ahead. I'm waiting.

My sister got booted off NS because of homos who said they wanted "all straights dead"

I actually debated a liberal on this very forum who said "If heterosexual marriage were banned then only REASONABLE LIBERALS will be able to reproduce *he/she puts up thumbs up icon*"

A plot to prove that heteros are wrong in saying that marriage is mainly for reproduction, however the gays forget that if they get equal rights it will cause a domino effect leading to the inevitable destruction of civilization as we know it. (http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_020507WABinitiative957SW.546c6a4d.html)

"Death to all Christians" moan left wing radicals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483572)
Pyotr
18-03-2007, 02:15
"Death to all Christians" moan left wing radicals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483572)

That was posted on Free Republic, which as you know full well speaks for all liberals and leftists.


in bizarro world
Utracia
18-03-2007, 02:16
:eek:

Clearly, you're part of the evil effeminate homo liberal terrorist Muslim atheist global warming conspiracy!

Well, if he was part of the conspiracy it isn't as if he would tell us. :p
Soheran
18-03-2007, 02:17
My sister got booted off NS because of homos who said they wanted "all straights dead"

Um, I'm guessing that there's a whole lot more to that story.

I actually debated a liberal on this very forum who said "If heterosexual marriage were banned then only REASONABLE LIBERALS will be able to reproduce *he/she puts up thumbs up icon*"

And I'm sure he or she said that with utmost seriousness?

http://www.nwcn.com/statenews/washington/stories/NW_020507WABinitiative957SW.546c6a4d.html

“For many years, social conservatives have claimed that marriage exists solely for the purpose of procreation ... The time has come for these conservatives to be dosed with their own medicine," said WA-DOMA organizer Gregory Gadow in a printed statement. “If same-sex couples should be barred from marriage because they can not have children together, it follows that all couples who cannot or will not have children together should equally be barred from marriage."

They don't actually want to nullify those marriages. They're making a point about the hypocrisy of the anti-gay marriage conservatives.

"Death to all Christians" moan left wing radicals (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=483572)

Nice sources - FreeRepublic and some random blog. And that's ONE person, even if true.

Is this really the best you can do? :rolleyes:
Kyronea
18-03-2007, 02:18
Because environmentalism is just emasculation.

Global Warming: Moving Towards Metrosexuals (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272612158.shtml)

If that wasn't the Drudge Report, I'd say it's a hilarious piece of satire, since it is...but given who it's from, it's meant seriously. Oh well...we can laugh anyway.

South Lizasauria: ...are you serious?
Soheran
18-03-2007, 02:18
however the gays forget that if they get equal rights it will cause a domino effect leading to the inevitable destruction of civilization as we know it.

Seems like it's more people like YOU wanting to impose your lifestyle on THEM....
Soheran
18-03-2007, 02:22
She told me everything, so I doubt there's alot more to that story.

Well, I don't believe you.

No one is banned because other people make statements.

And yes the liberal I debated was utterly serious.

I don't believe that, either.

Do you have a link?
South Lizasauria
18-03-2007, 02:25
Um, I'm guessing that there's a whole lot more to that story.



And I'm sure he or she said that with utmost seriousness?





They don't actually want to nullify those marriages. They're making a point about the hypocrisy of the anti-gay marriage conservatives.



Nice sources - FreeRepublic and some random blog. And that's ONE person, even if true.

Is this really the best you can do? :rolleyes:

My sister hates dishonesty with a firy passion *remebers all the death threats she gave me when I was a kid who kept blaiming her for stuff as a joke :rolleyes: She told me everything, so I doubt there's alot more to that story.

And yes the liberal I debated was utterly serious.
Pepe Dominguez
18-03-2007, 02:26
Bah, all that huff over nothing. Environmentalists can't win against the cattle industry.. burgers aren't going anywhere..

Although that was pretty funny, Al Gore consulting a feminist for fashion tips... in 2000. I'm not surprised. :p
Soviet Haaregrad
18-03-2007, 02:32
And yes the liberal I debated was utterly serious.

Are you satire, or just unintendedly hilarious?
South Lizasauria
18-03-2007, 02:37
Well, I don't believe you. Or her.

No one is banned because other people make statements.



I don't believe that, either.

Do you have a link?

No but I remember the name of the NSG thread "heterosexual marraige" It started out as a joke but then he/she came in with chilling statements on how it would "truly be better that way" and began giving arguments. I debated him/her because he/she was advocating a an idea that would cause mass suffering around the world. The banning of heterosexual marraige would increase the likely hood of STDs among all humans hetero or otherwise because the only way to reproduce was out of marriage and since men and woman could "go around town" the likelihood of catching a bug of some sort rises, not to mention that homos get STDs easier because the bacteria in the erm...backside goes back into the other guy that causes a strange infection. Also all the conservatives and non-liberals who believed in values wouldn't be allowed to reproduce because of their beliefs and legality meaning that only liberals who have sex without values would survive. He/She said in response to the problems I listed with his/her logic and I quote "then only REASONABLE LIBERALS would be allowed to reproduce making the world a better place" He/she seemed to see gays as a weapon to wipe out non-liberals. Nazi had similar arguments, the argument that Aryans were the chosen race and that they should occupy every territory in the world to make the world a better place for example.
Pyotr
18-03-2007, 02:46
No but I remember the name of the NSG thread "heterosexual marraige" It started out as a joke but then he/she came in with chilling statements on how it would "truly be better that way" and began giving arguments. I debated him/her because he/she was advocating a an idea that would cause mass suffering around the world. The banning of heterosexual marraige would increase the likely hood of STDs among all humans hetero or otherwise because the only way to reproduce was out of marriage and since men and woman could "go around town" the likelihood of catching a bug of some sort rises, not to mention that homos get STDs easier because the bacteria in the erm...backside goes back into the other guy that causes a strange infection. Also all the conservatives and non-liberals who believed in values wouldn't be allowed to reproduce because of their beliefs and legality meaning that only liberals who have sex without values would survive. He/She said in response to the problems I listed with his/her logic and I quote "then only REASONABLE LIBERALS would be allowed to reproduce making the world a better place" He/she seemed to see gays as a weapon to wipe out non-liberals. Nazi had similar arguments, the argument that Aryans were the chosen race and that they should occupy every territory in the world to make the world a better place for example.
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512934&page=2&highlight=Heterosexual

Here's the thread, nothing in it is serious at all. You are so full of shit.
Soheran
18-03-2007, 02:54
No but I remember the name of the NSG thread "heterosexual marraige"

This one? (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=510956&highlight=Heterosexual+marriage)

Banning heterosexual marriage won't put a dent in birthrates.

Hmm, seems like a pretty bad attempt at eugenics then....

And when you presented your interpretation of his/her post:

Two questions... what are you smoking and where can I get some?

Nice try.

The rest of your post is mostly full of ridiculous fallacies and distortions that aren't even worth replying to.
South Lizasauria
18-03-2007, 03:06
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=512934&page=2&highlight=Heterosexual

Here's the thread, nothing in it is serious at all. You are so full of shit.

Wrong one. It's "Heterosexual marriage" The one Soheran posted.
Vetalia
18-03-2007, 03:08
So is there such a thing as methane offsets? I'm really perplexed as to how that one would work.
Kyronea
18-03-2007, 04:43
So is there such a thing as methane offsets? I'm really perplexed as to how that one would work.

I think we'd need to package the gas a la Vespene rather than offset it.
Tsumara
18-03-2007, 06:03
No but I remember the name of the NSG thread "heterosexual marraige" It started out as a joke but then he/she came in with chilling statements on how it would "truly be better that way" and began giving arguments. I debated him/her because he/she was advocating a an idea that would cause mass suffering around the world. The banning of heterosexual marraige would increase the likely hood of STDs among all humans hetero or otherwise because the only way to reproduce was out of marriage and since men and woman could "go around town" the likelihood of catching a bug of some sort rises, not to mention that homos get STDs easier because the bacteria in the erm...backside goes back into the other guy that causes a strange infection. Also all the conservatives and non-liberals who believed in values wouldn't be allowed to reproduce because of their beliefs and legality meaning that only liberals who have sex without values would survive. He/She said in response to the problems I listed with his/her logic and I quote "then only REASONABLE LIBERALS would be allowed to reproduce making the world a better place" He/she seemed to see gays as a weapon to wipe out non-liberals. Nazi had similar arguments, the argument that Aryans were the chosen race and that they should occupy every territory in the world to make the world a better place for example.


Three points:
1. I don't think he was serious.
2. A lot of that kind of mentality is found on the right-wing and from people who despize gays. See the CPFA to read something along these lines: http://www.falangist.com/index1.htm
3. Define "values"
Congo--Kinshasa
18-03-2007, 07:54
Sounds like something Hal Turner would say.

Gross, why did you have to mention that piece of shit?
Vetalia
18-03-2007, 07:56
Gross, why did you have to mention that piece of shit?

Because it's Hal Turner.

Also: Hal, gb2b.
Europa Maxima
18-03-2007, 08:06
I wish you had posted this earlier Soheran. We were meant to take an article and analyze patterns of validity, fallacies etc. in it for my philosophy class. This article would've proven to be an amusing candidate. :D
Congo--Kinshasa
18-03-2007, 08:06
Also: Hal, gb2b.

:confused:
Vetalia
18-03-2007, 08:08
:confused:

"Hal, go back to bed"

'chan reference. The person who originally mentioned Hal would probably get it since they're pretty clearly a Channer.
Desperate Measures
18-03-2007, 08:11
No words. Only drunken laughter. All is right in the world.
Soheran
18-03-2007, 08:12
I wish you had posted this earlier Soheran. We were meant to take an article and analyze patterns of validity, fallacies etc. in it for my philosophy class. This article would've proven to be an amusing candidate. :D

I believe it was published yesterday (March 17), so, since I don't have a time machine, posting this earlier would have been slightly problematic. :)
The Pictish Revival
18-03-2007, 08:20
Wrong one. It's "Heterosexual marriage" The one Soheran posted.

So... you understood that thread to be an entirely serious one, from which you could draw conclusions about liberal attitudes?

I'm curious - how did you get your sense of irony removed? Was it just the one operation, or a whole series of surgical procedures? Either way it was a roaring success, my compliments to the surgeon.
Vetalia
18-03-2007, 08:23
I'm curious - how did you get your sense of irony removed? Was it just the one operation, or a whole series of surgical procedures? Either way it was a roaring success, my compliments to the surgeon.

Actually, IIRC SL has Asperger's Syndrome, which normally makes it extremely difficult for those affected by it to detect sarcasm in normal speech let alone on the internet where there aren't even the verbal or physical clues that exist in everyday speech (yet).
The Pictish Revival
18-03-2007, 08:41
Actually, IIRC SL has Asperger's Syndrome, which normally makes it extremely difficult for those affected by it to detect sarcasm in normal speech let alone on the internet where there aren't even the verbal or physical clues that exist in everyday speech (yet).

And I, thanks to an ongoing mental health problem and my current drive to get myself off medication, am prone to astonishingly harsh mood swings. I've learned to recognise the problem and allow for it when posting on NS. If SL has medical grounds for not recognising subtexts then he should... hmmm that's a tricky one, especially when using the internet to communicate.

In any case, Asperger's Syndrome does not cause people to make up quotes, as SL did with reference to the 'chilling statements'.
Europa Maxima
18-03-2007, 08:44
Actually, IIRC SL has Asperger's Syndrome, which normally makes it extremely difficult for those affected by it to detect sarcasm in normal speech let alone on the internet where there aren't even the verbal or physical clues that exist in everyday speech (yet).
I'm not sure AS can account for the massive leaps in logic SL is capable of making or his inability to rationally support a position.
The Pictish Revival
18-03-2007, 09:04
I'm not sure AS can account for the massive leaps in logic SL is capable of making or his inability to rationally support a position.

Hard to say. I think AS covers a pretty broad range of symptoms. I used to work with someone who had AS - I'll probably never know which bits of her unusual behaviour were due to AS and which bits were due to her being a genuinely nasty person.
New Granada
18-03-2007, 09:10
Michael Savage Weiner said on his radio show that ritalin is a militant feminist plot to destroy america.

The engine of this destruction is the suppression of masculinity via ritalin.

What else should the savage nation know?
Demented Hamsters
18-03-2007, 09:21
No but I remember the name of the NSG thread "heterosexual marraige"
blahblahdontblithertmewithyourblatherblah.
amazing.
You can immediately pull up a thread that was created 8 months ago and in which you didn't post, yet you can't find the more recent thread where you did post. You remember clearly everything that was in said thread, but still you can't find it.
Simply amazing.

no wait.

I tell a lie.

It's not amazing, it's the other one:
simply bullshit.
Ariddia
18-03-2007, 09:35
So being a vegetarian makes me "metrosexual" and "unmanly", apparently. How... interesting.

Seriously, though, how do they come up with this stuff? It's hilarious! :D
Cameroi
18-03-2007, 09:55
i can but pick, choose and disect, not neccessarily in rational order.

i did get a good grin out of certain aspects of the origeonal propisition while raising one or two eyebrows at a few others

to whit, or my lack of it as the case may be.

The latest point of emphasis in the global warming movement is that cattle farming endangers the planet by producing too much methane.

sure it is, depending on what you do with the methane.

So now, steaks and hamburgers are classified as instruments of destruction, along with large vehicles, lawn mowers, and charcoal grills. It can't be much longer before cowboy movies, cigars and hockey are held to be enemies of the earth as well.

several things are mentioned here i have a hard time to immagine missing, in fact the only items in that list i MIGHT miss are steaks, hambergers and charcoal grills (and even those i could probably survive without). are you trying to say that lawn mowers and hockey ARN'T impliments of terrorism?

This has got to be the most blatant assault on guyhood since ABC moved Coach to the same night as Roseanne, and turned Hayden Fox into Phil Donahue. It's a wonder that liberals don't cut to the chase, by simply claiming that global warming is caused by testosterone.

trusting humans with testosterone is probably the biggest mistake the god/goddess/universe every made

presumably the pratfall upon which humor hinges

Many environmentalists believe that the earth is a living organism, personified by the Greek goddess Gaia. Conveniently, it turns out that Gaia is a shrew, who demands that her men be reduced to henpecked, metrosexual noodles. Manliness makes Gaia angry, and we wouldn't like her when she's angry, because she'll turn into a green monster and start smashing everything to bits. Hell hath no fury like an earth goddess exposed to excessive cattle-produced methane emissions.

i'm glad you qualified that as "many". most "guy things" are how most of us lie to ourselves. there is only one way to not be "henpecked" and that's to be a hermit. indeed it is by our "pull-toys" if anything we are most often miss-(or mrs)-lead

=^^=
.../\...
Desperate Measures
18-03-2007, 10:20
Michael Savage Weiner said on his radio show that ritalin is a militant feminist plot to destroy america.

The engine of this destruction is the suppression of masculinity via ritalin.

What else should the savage nation know?

The savage nation should know that showing full clips of a person being beheaded is like chicken soup for the soul.
Chamoi
18-03-2007, 12:32
So let me get this correct. According to this article, eating meat makes you more of a man?
Evil Cantadia
18-03-2007, 12:43
Do people who write this stuff do so with a straight face? Does anyone who reads it actually take it seriously?
Demented Hamsters
18-03-2007, 15:16
So let me get this correct. According to this article, eating meat makes you more of a man?
depends on what sort of man-meat you're eating.
I'm sure Fass would agree with me here.
Domici
18-03-2007, 16:21
That is the most awesome and hilarious conclusion leap I've seen in a while. Seriously, who comes up with this stuff? :D

Apparently a moron named Daniel Clark.

Here was my favorite part of the article because it shows just how moronic and behind the times conservatives really are.

Wouldn't it be more plausible if a few items like styling gel, latte makers and tofu were said to destroy the planet as well? Perhaps, but that would not serve the purpose of expanding the base of the global warming movement. Since no liberal cause can produce much support on its own, any one of them must ally itself with all other liberal causes, so that they can pool their resources.


One of the first things that environmentalists noticed was bad for the atmosphere was hair spray. Now hardly any hairspray comes in an aerosol can. The reason things that liberals like don't cause global warming is because if you want to market to liberals you have to try to be ecologically sound if at all reasonable.

It's like smelling smoke, rushing out of your apartment building, calling the Super to tell him "the building's on fire," and his response, "well isn't it just convenient that building's on fire when you're not in it. You fire safety nuts just love waking people up in the middle of the night."
Domici
18-03-2007, 16:27
So let me get this correct. According to this article, eating meat makes you more of a man?

People who don't really love America pretend that loving America is all about waving flags and singing the national anthem.

People who don't really support the troops pretend that supporting the troops is all about saying nice things about George Bush and putting yellow stickers on your car.

People who don't really have any manhood pretend that manhood is about eating red meat, drinking beer, and watching sports.

Loving America means trying to make it better.

Supporting the troops means giving them what they need to do their jobs, what they need to still feel human, and the care they need when they come home.
Being a man means being rational, honorable, confident, and active.

This Daniel Cook guy is a total pussy.
Darknovae
18-03-2007, 16:38
Muah ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha ha!!!! :p

It's WORKING!
Divine Imaginary Fluff
18-03-2007, 16:38
I'm not sure AS can account for the massive leaps in logic SL is capable of making or his inability to rationally support a position.As another member with AS, I sure wouldn't like such a leap to be made. His individual personality traits have little to do with mine, just as mine have little to do with his. People with AS are a very diverse group - atleast as diverse as neurotypicals. I, and probably many of the other Aspies here, would take quite a bit of offense at AS being portrayed as the cause of such behavior.
Ghost Tigers Rise
18-03-2007, 16:49
It can't be much longer before cowboy movies, cigars and hockey are held to be enemies of the earth as well.

The day hockey is branded an enemy of the earth is the day I stop supporting environmentalism.

'Til then, though, GOOOOOO, CAPTAIN PLANET!!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Captain.gif
Greater Trostia
18-03-2007, 17:29
It's quite obvious that some liberals and some homos are like Nazi Spain and Nazi Germany. They have the "If your not gay or not liberal you need to either become liberal or gay or be eliminated" mindset. Its sickening.

....

Wow.

It's hard for me to comprehend that you are a real person.
Slyphe
18-03-2007, 18:00
It's quite obvious that some liberals and some homos are like Nazi Spain and Nazi Germany. They have the "If your not gay or not liberal you need to either become liberal or gay or be eliminated" mindset. Its sickening.

Nazi... Spain?
Soluis
18-03-2007, 18:09
Warmer temperatures certainly would reduce fertility levels, for much the same reason laptops shouldn't actually be lap-top. ;)

Nazi... Spain? Spanish types do fascism best, wherever they are in the world.
Soheran
18-03-2007, 18:11
It's hard for me to comprehend that you are a real person.

Well, if Daniel Clark is....
Dobbsworld
18-03-2007, 18:12
Balls feel threatened?

Pick up a turd and fling it at the glass enclosure - you'll feel better.
Deus Malum
18-03-2007, 18:21
As another member with AS, I sure wouldn't like such a leap to be made. His individual personality traits have little to do with mine, just as mine have little to do with his. People with AS are a very diverse group - atleast as diverse as neurotypicals. I, and probably many of the other Aspies here, would take quite a bit of offense at AS being portrayed as the cause of such behavior.

Aye, though I'll admit that the only two people I know IRL who have AS both deserve to be shot in the face. This is because they are assholes, not because they have AS.

Though from what I'm seen, AS isn't something you can peg down to one specific set of behaviors, right?
Arthais101
18-03-2007, 19:05
It's quite obvious that some liberals and some homos are like Nazi Spain and Nazi Germany. They have the "If your not gay or not liberal you need to either become liberal or gay or be eliminated" mindset. Its sickening.

Nazi.....spain? NAZI is a german abbreviation for National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Fascist spain perhaps, but Nazi spain? Where'd you get this from?

And, by the way....source?
Arthais101
18-03-2007, 19:12
as to the content of the article....nah, I got nothing. It's just too stupid.
Arthais101
18-03-2007, 19:16
Though from what I'm seen, AS isn't something you can peg down to one specific set of behaviors, right?

AS is a form of autism, which does have a general set of symptoms associated with it. Inability to detect sarcasm or humor, prone to egocentric behavior mainly through a lack of empathy, etc etc etc

Asbergers is...well...a syndrome, a list of symptoms, sorta what a syndrome means...thus people with AS, by definition, will share some common symptoms, but nobody with AS is identical of course.
Deus Malum
18-03-2007, 19:17
Nazi.....spain? NAZI is a german abbreviation for National Socialist German Workers' Party.

Fascist spain perhaps, but Nazi spain? Where'd you get this from?

And, by the way....source?

He's thinking of the Fascist Regime in Spain under the rulership of Franco.
DrPigeon
18-03-2007, 19:17
Despite not reading the whole thread I have some things to point out.

For the first thing meat is actualy REALY bad for the environment. Well, at least factory growing of it. Secondly, if anyone is in any doubt, Global Warming is a FACT. These sorts of doubt mungering stories are just a load of doubt mungering propeganda storries, with no bassis in facts.

if anyone wants any more info, visit the english grean party website.

www.greenparty.org.uk

I dont know what the reaction has been from you lot, but I hope that at least some people have some common sence
Deus Malum
18-03-2007, 19:17
AS is a form of autism, which does have a general set of symptoms associated with it. Inability to detect sarcasm or humor, prone to egocentric behavior mainly through a lack of empathy, etc etc etc

Asbergers is...well...a syndrome, a list of symptoms, sorta what a syndrome means...thus people with AS, by definition, will share some common symptoms, but nobody with AS is identical of course.

Ah, ok. That makes sense.
Arthais101
18-03-2007, 19:22
He's thinking of the Fascist Regime in Spain under the rulership of Franco.

Yes, yes I know, and Franco and Hitler were quite buddy buddy tehre for aw hile but "nazi spain" is kind of odd considering, by definition, the nazi party was a german party.
Arthais101
18-03-2007, 19:31
see this is the problematic understanding of a "syndrome". What a syndrome is, is basically defined as "a list of symptoms caused by some underlying condition, defect, virus, bactiera, whatever".

In other words, something causes a set of symptoms. Those symptoms, caused by that thing, is a syndrome.

For instance, "the flu" is a syndrome. "Asbergers" is a syndrome. AIDS is a syndrome.

Take the flu for example. Symptoms...fever, runny nose, headache, sore throat, muscle aches, exhaustion.

AIDS. I believe the CDC states one has AIDS when ones white blood cell levels drop below a certain level per milileter of blood.

Asbergers...like I mentioned. Inability to tell emotion and context, lack of empathy, etc.

A syndrome is a list of symptoms as a result of an underlying cause. Sometimes we know what that underlying cause is. Sometimes we don't.

The flu, thus. Fever, runny nose, headache, sore throat, muscle aches, exhaustion, cause by the influenza virus

AIDS. A decrease in white blood cell quantity to below a certain quantity per milileter of blood cause by HIV

Asbergers. All the aforementioned symptoms caused by....well, we don't know exactly.

A syndrome only means a series of symptoms brought about as a result of a certain cause. Sometimes we know what the cause is, sometimes we don't. In the case of AS all we know is that people who have this cause, end up with the symptoms that we have catagorized as AS. We don't necessarily know what causes them.
Global Avthority
18-03-2007, 22:13
One of the first things that environmentalists noticed was bad for the atmosphere was hair spray. Now hardly any hairspray comes in an aerosol can. The reason things that liberals like don't cause global warming is because if you want to market to liberals you have to try to be ecologically sound if at all reasonable.
Are you and Clark trying to claim that liberals and conservatives, as a whole, consume different products?
Johnny B Goode
18-03-2007, 22:45
Because environmentalism is just emasculation.

Global Warming: Moving Towards Metrosexuals (http://www.nationalledger.com/artman/publish/article_272612158.shtml)

http://www.joemanna.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2006/09/roflcopter.gif
Divine Imaginary Fluff
18-03-2007, 22:45
AS is a form of autism, which does have a general set of symptoms associated with it. Inability to detect sarcasm or humor, prone to egocentric behavior mainly through a lack of empathy, etc etc etc

Asbergers is...well...a syndrome, a list of symptoms, sorta what a syndrome means...thus people with AS, by definition, will share some common symptoms, but nobody with AS is identical of course.Largely a pretty good way to sum it up. In essence, those with AS are "aligned" somewhat differently regarding their use of body language - meaning that there is a mutual issue regarding instinctual use and understanding of body language (largely the same differences prevalent to a smaller extent between the average man and average woman), though intellectual understanding can compensate very well for it in many cases, though not for all - as well as way of thinking. (pretty many with AS are rather quirky - in greatly individually varying ways - and "nerdy", often having strong, focused interests. I'm guilty as charged)

Many with AS are good with sarcasm and other humor. When communicating in text in particular, detecting such is to a large extent an intellectual effort, and with a bit of experience, most "higher-functioning" Aspies seldom differ noticeably in this regard.
Europa Maxima
19-03-2007, 00:05
As another member with AS, I sure wouldn't like such a leap to be made. His individual personality traits have little to do with mine, just as mine have little to do with his. People with AS are a very diverse group - atleast as diverse as neurotypicals. I, and probably many of the other Aspies here, would take quite a bit of offense at AS being portrayed as the cause of such behavior.
I think I might have a mild form of it, but to know that I'd need a professional opinion.
Demented Hamsters
19-03-2007, 09:10
Fascist spain perhaps, but Nazi spain? Where'd you get this from?
I daresay where he gets most - if not all - his opinions and 'facts': Pulled from his butt.
Kormanthor
19-03-2007, 09:43
That is the most awesome and hilarious conclusion leap I've seen in a while. Seriously, who comes up with this stuff? :D


Thats what I'm wondering myself
Domici
19-03-2007, 12:34
The day hockey is branded an enemy of the earth is the day I stop supporting environmentalism.

'Til then, though, GOOOOOO, CAPTAIN PLANET!!!
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/8/84/Captain.gif

Of course, it is environmentalism that helps save hockey by making sure that lakes continue to freeze every Winter.
Eve Online
19-03-2007, 12:41
Screw gender roles and expectations, people should define the meaning of their lives/lifestyles for themselves.

And should cook steaks on charcoal grills if that's what makes them happy...
Domici
19-03-2007, 12:47
Are you and Clark trying to claim that liberals and conservatives, as a whole, consume different products?

Well, whenever I see a "W" sticker it's on an HUV or Hummer. Whenever I see a "Kerry/Edwards" sticker it's on a Sedan or Coup.

I'm not saying that if liberals use it then conservatives don't or vice versa, but I am saying that the author's premise is absurd, but even given his premise, his analysis is absurd.

It would be like the NRA trying to prove that most gun crimes are committed with knives and then saying that it's just a conspiracy that all gun crimes seem to be committed with guns because the law of averages says that out of the thousands of gun crimes that get committed each year, some would have to be committed with knives.

There's a reason all gun crimes are committed with guns. They wouldn't be gun crimes otherwise. There's a reason that products popular with environmentalists tend to be more environmentally friendly.

But his thesis that macho products are falsely blamed for global warming is also absurd. Environmentalists don't like SUV's, but they're mostly driven by housewives. Hardly a bastion of testosterone-feulled virility. Even jeeps tend to be driven mostly by college girls. Guys like to drive pick-up trucks or sports cars, but then, lesbians like pick-up trucks and gay guys like sports cars.

I'm just saying that if you're going to grasp at straws, they shouldn't be ones you pulled out of your ass, because then you will still plummet to your death and your hand will smell like shit.