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McCain for 08' people. Although he did get stumped there I admit... but it won't stop me from working on his campaign...

Q: “What about grants for sex education in the United States? Should they include instructions about using contraceptives? Or should it be Bush’s policy, which is just abstinence?”

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “Ahhh. I think I support the president’s policy.”

Q: “So no contraception, no counseling on contraception. Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?”

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “You’ve stumped me.”

Q: “I mean, I think you’d probably agree it probably does help stop it?”

Mr. McCain: (Laughs) “Are we on the Straight Talk express? I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it.”

Q: “But you would agree that condoms do stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Would you say: ‘No, we’re not going to distribute them,’ knowing that?”

Mr. McCain: (Twelve-second pause) “Get me Coburn’s thing, ask Weaver to get me Coburn’s paper that he just gave me in the last couple of days. I’ve never gotten into these issues before.”

Quoted for lolz.

Not that it was ever much on the Straight Talk to begin with, but I'd like to share this little bit of conversation that shows what happens when you don't actually know what you stand for (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/16/mccain-stumbles-on-hiv-prevention/) anymore.

Q: “What about grants for sex education in the United States? Should they include instructions about using contraceptives? Or should it be Bush’s policy, which is just abstinence?”

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “Ahhh. I think I support the president’s policy.”

Q: “So no contraception, no counseling on contraception. Just abstinence. Do you think contraceptives help stop the spread of HIV?”

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “You’ve stumped me.”

Q: “I mean, I think you’d probably agree it probably does help stop it?”

Mr. McCain: (Laughs) “Are we on the Straight Talk express? I’m not informed enough on it. Let me find out. You know, I’m sure I’ve taken a position on it on the past. I have to find out what my position was. Brian, would you find out what my position is on contraception – I’m sure I’m opposed to government spending on it, I’m sure I support the president’s policies on it.”

Q: “But you would agree that condoms do stop the spread of sexually transmitted diseases. Would you say: ‘No, we’re not going to distribute them,’ knowing that?”

Mr. McCain: (Twelve-second pause) “Get me Coburn’s thing, ask Weaver to get me Coburn’s paper that he just gave me in the last couple of days. I’ve never gotten into these issues before.”
Set aside for a moment the fact that he can't tell you off the top of his head whether or not he supports abstinence-only sex-education in the US, which seems a bit ridiculous to me--he wasn't asked a question about long-term monetary policy, for crying out loud. It's the fact that he's sure he's taken a position on it in the past and is more worried about contradicting that position (thus opening himself up to the dreaded "flipflopper" charge) than he is about just giving the straight talk that's informative to me.

On the plus side from my point of view--a year ago, I was worried that McCain would get the nomination in 2008 and that he would be tough to beat in the general. I'm far less worried about that now.

McCain for 08' people.

Not a chance in hell for me.

Posted in hopes of reclaiming my OP. :p

Dammit!

Please tell me why people vote for John McCain. In fact, please tell me why people vote for any of the idiots infesting Washington DC.

McCain...oh dear...he could have had it all...but ultimately failed coz he got the fear.

I'm adding another check mark to my "reasons to NOT vote for McCain" list.

McCain can go fuck an AIDS patient for all I care. He's way too socially conservative for me. I respect the fact that he served in Vietnam, but I don't respect his anti abortion position and I certainly don't respect the fact that he doesn't even know his own official position on contraception and sex education.

mccain didnt remember his stance on sex-ed.

is he already this worn out from campaigning?

he's too old to be president.

Oh, did he finally admit he was gay?

he's too old to be president.

Dude, we elected Reagan. He was like eighty. We could probably elect Strom Thurmond. We probably would. No, not in the past. I mean in '08.

Classic. "I can't remember what I think about this." Priceless.

Oh, did he finally admit he was gay?

Ba-dum-bum-chich!

I wouldn't have voted for him in the first place - he's not a moderate, unless you consider not supporting state sponsered torture a 'moderate' position - and this just gives me more reason to hate the guy. He's both an idiot and a coward. I mean first he can't remember his official stance (so he fellates the president's)... but I don't believe for a second he doesn't understand or have some opinion on this subject. He just didn't want to say something that might be true but politically inexpedient. Political hack.

Dude, we elected Reagan. He was like eighty. We could probably elect Strom Thurmond. We probably would. No, not in the past. I mean in '08.

I just can't help but think of Brezhnev LOL

Dude, we elected Reagan. He was like eighty. We could probably elect Strom Thurmond. We probably would. No, not in the past. I mean in '08.

thats my point! reagan had alzhiemers in the oval office for god's sake. we dont need another president too old for the job.

thats my point! reagan had alzhiemers in the oval office for god's sake. we dont need another president too old for the job.

Have you ever heard Lewis Black about the "Dead President" in his Carnegie Hall performance? It's hilarious. He says we should elect Reagan's corpse. Because really, whose gonna screw with a country of people nuts enough to elect a dead body as their leader?

Have you ever heard Lewis Black about the "Dead President" in his Carnegie Hall performance? It's hilarious. He says we should elect Reagan's corpse. Because really, whose gonna screw with a country of people nuts enough to elect a dead body as their leader?

yeah i loved that. and he's so right!

yeah i loved that. and he's so right!

It would work, too.

Have you ever heard Lewis Black about the "Dead President" in his Carnegie Hall performance? It's hilarious. He says we should elect Reagan's corpse. Because really, whose gonna screw with a country of people nuts enough to elect a dead body as their leader?

Hey, if Missouri can elect Mel Carnahan over John Asscroft even after the plane crash...

McCain is trying so hard to beg support from everyone that he doesn't even have his own positions any more.
"Uh, do I contradict the president's position on sex ed? Contradict.. president? Does not compute, fatal error, please reboot."

Hey, if Missouri can elect Mel Carnahan over John Asscroft even after the plane crash...

they made the right decision.

It would work, too.

Nah, he can't run. JFK can, though.

Oh John McCain, what happened to the Straight Talk Express? ...


AmTrack...

they made the right decision.

Darn straight we did. I'd take Carnahan's reanimated corpse over Ashcroft any day.

Reagan would do a better job dead than some of the Presidents that came after him did / are doing alive. :p

He'd do a better job dead than he did alive.

Have you ever heard Lewis Black about the "Dead President" in his Carnegie Hall performance? It's hilarious. He says we should elect Reagan's corpse. Because really, whose gonna screw with a country of people nuts enough to elect a dead body as their leader?

North Korea is officially ruled by a dead guy.

thats my point! reagan had alzhiemers in the oval office for god's sake. we dont need another president too old for the job.

Hey! Watch that "old" stuff. :p

Have you ever heard Lewis Black about the "Dead President" in his Carnegie Hall performance? It's hilarious. He says we should elect Reagan's corpse. Because really, whose gonna screw with a country of people nuts enough to elect a dead body as their leader?

Reagan would do a better job dead than some of the Presidents that came after him did / are doing alive. :p

North Korea is officially ruled by a dead guy.

and see how scary they are?

lewis black is a genius!

Not that it was ever much on the Straight Talk to begin with, but I'd like to share this little bit of conversation that shows what happens when you don't actually know what you stand for (http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/16/mccain-stumbles-on-hiv-prevention/) anymore.


Set aside for a moment the fact that he can't tell you off the top of his head whether or not he supports abstinence-only sex-education in the US, which seems a bit ridiculous to me--he wasn't asked a question about long-term monetary policy, for crying out loud. It's the fact that he's sure he's taken a position on it in the past and is more worried about contradicting that position (thus opening himself up to the dreaded "flipflopper" charge) than he is about just giving the straight talk that's informative to me.

On the plus side from my point of view--a year ago, I was worried that McCain would get the nomination in 2008 and that he would be tough to beat in the general. I'm far less worried about that now.
...I wonder why the hell I ever wanted to vote for this man...

And the death pangs of my dreams of an election with several candidates I actually might want to vote for grow louder and louder....

...I wonder why the hell I ever wanted to vote for this man...

Because people are fucking stupid.

...I wonder why the hell I ever wanted to vote for this man...

He had a better act back in 2000. He's fallen apart in the meantime.

...I wonder why the hell I ever wanted to vote for this man...

We all have moments of temporary insanity. The point is that now you know better. I actually thought he might be actually a decent guy (for a Republican) but when he started sucking up to Jerry Falwell it was hard to have any respect for him.

Mr. McCain: (Long pause) “Ahhh. I think I support the president’s policy.”
translation: I'm GWB's bitch.

Please tell me why people vote for John McCain. In fact, please tell me why people vote for any of the idiots infesting Washington DC.

Both good questions.

I'm pretty much ignoring the whole thing...I already plan to vote for any third party on the ballot. I don't care if I'm throwing my vote away, the Republicans and Democrats have to shape waaaay the fuck up before I'll vote for either again.