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[punk, not techno]I'd wager that was not the clarification most people were thinking about. :p

Whoops! Sorry. Thought this was going to be a porn thread. http://209.85.12.231/1568/166/emo/54.gif

I've decided that I'm becoming tired of metal, and have decided to try and get into hardcore [punk, not techno]. So I'd like some recommendations: what are the most essential albums? What are some of the subgenres and their best bands? I'm talking about all kinds of hardcore, from Black Flag to Converge.

I'm counting on you guys! Thanks in advance for the recommendations.

You probably know Refused already? Crass? Nomeansno? Angry Samoans? The Wipers?

Early Neurosis and Corrosion of Conformity? (the former in particular improved when they crossed over into metal, though) Facedowninshit are pretty cool too....but on the heavier side again.

I'd wager that was not the clarification most people were thinking about. :p

I'm slipping. The first thoughts were of the music.

Typical of you Nationstates folks to assume every other thread is a porn thread :p .

Maybe it would have been wiser to post this on a music forum, but if I posted this on a non-hardcore music forum I'd get blasted for blasphemy and if I posted this on a hardcore forum I'd get blasted for ignorance.Noooo, you'll get lots of info, I'm sure. I just couldn't resist making a crack about the obvious. ;)

On a whole other, most astonished note: Did you just manage to change the thread title yourself??? Or did a mod do that? (Not that you'd know the latter, but maybe they read this and say so?) Because I thought we couldn't do that.

I'd wager that was not the clarification most people were thinking about. :p

Typical of you Nationstates folks to assume every other thread is a porn thread :p .

Maybe it would have been wiser to post this on a music forum, but if I posted this on a non-hardcore music forum I'd get blasted for blasphemy and if I posted this on a hardcore forum I'd get blasted for ignorance.


Early Neurosis and Corrosion of Conformity? (the former in particular improved when they crossed over into metal, though) Facedowninshit are pretty cool too....

Already a fan of both bands, although I mainly know Neurosis for their metal material.

On a whole other, most astonished note: Did you just manage to change the thread title yourself??? Or did a mod do that? (Not that you'd know the latter, but maybe they read this and say so?) Because I thought we couldn't do that.

We can't. A mod must've done it.

Ick. Punk. Ew.

Ick. Ruffy. Ew.

:p

Ick. Ruffy. Ew.

:p

*vomits*

Black Flag- Nervous Breakdown is a great place to start.

Yes you can. Click edit, then go to "Go Advanced". Then you change the title of the post. Most forums allow the poster of a topic to edit the topic title in this way.

Really? Hmmm...that must be relatively new. We didn't used to be able to do that here.

Yes you can. Click edit, then go to "Go Advanced". Then you change the title of the post. Most forums allow the poster of a topic to edit the topic title in this way. Wow, nice.

We can't. A mod must've done it.

Yes you can. Click edit, then go to "Go Advanced". Then you change the title of the post. Most forums allow the poster of a topic to edit the topic title in this way.

EDIT: Excuse my ignorance. Is there a reason why the responses in this thread and in this forum in general keep showing up *before* the posts that prompted the response? For example, the original thread post is showing up third, the two responses to this post are above it...???

EDIT: Excuse my ignorance. Is there a reason why the responses in this thread and in this forum in general keep showing up *before* the posts that prompted the response? For example, the original thread post is showing up third, the two responses to this post are above it...???

The infamous Jolt time-warp.

The explanation bandied about is that jolt has 2+ servers (If it means webservers, this is true; forums.jolt, forums2.jolt, forums3.jolt at least; if it means database servers, who knows?), and their clocks read different times, so posts going through different servers might wind up in the wrong order.

I doubt it's really that simple, or (you'd've thought) somebody would've just reset the damn clocks by now.

I doubt it's really that simple, or (you'd've thought) somebody would've just reset the damn clocks by now.

Yeah, right. There are people who have suffered various fuckups with their accounts here and have been waiting over a year for the jolt admins to do anything. I'm sure Fris could tell you more about that if he spots this thread, since he was the one I believe looking into most of them...I only have a vague recollection from some threads in the technical forum.

just wondering, what kind of hardcore would ATR be? i don't know if it's punk, i guess not, but it's definetly not techno so what is it then?

just wondering, what kind of hardcore would ATR be? i don't know if it's punk, i guess not, but it's definetly not techno so what is it then?

If you mean All That Remains, then metalcore would be the subgenre...Gothencore/Swedecore if you want to be really specific. I generally think of metalcore as more of a metal subgenre than a hardcore subgenre, though.

If you mean All That Remains, then metalcore would be the subgenre...Gothencore/Swedecore if you want to be really specific. I generally think of metalcore as more of a metal subgenre than a hardcore subgenre, though.

no, i was meaning atari teenage riot :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkb3r9filcM

Atari Teenage Riot are digital hardcore, gabber + industrial + hardcore punk, sometimes with breakbeats. ATR is the shiznit.

I'm not really into tough guy hardcore, but I'll name some emo, grindcore, mathcore and powerviolence bands you might like.

Orchid, Pig Destroyer, Charles Bronson, Combat Wounded Veteran, Saetia, City of Caterpillar, A Day In Black And White, Neil Perry, Bucket Full of Teeth, Ampere, Panthers, Head Hits Concrete, Swallowing Shit, Spazz, Man Is The Bastard, Planes Mistaken For Stars, Nasum, See You Next Tuesday, The Number Twelve Looks Like You, Disfear, Brujeria, Envy, Behead The Prophet No Lord Shall Live, The Locust, Antioch Arrow, Heroin, Agoraphobic Nosebleed, Botch, The Swing Kids, Some Girls

<bump> <chug chug GROUP SHOUT chug chug chug chug chug Lyrics about overcoming drugs/girlfriend/best friend chug chug chug I hate you/I hope you drown in a pit of semen chug chug chug>

Choking Victim/Leftover Crack/Crack-Rock Steady 7 are all good ska/hardcore. If you haven't heard Minor Threat, you haven't lived. Embrace (U.S.) is a good Emo-core band. Early Bad Religion, Husker Du, and Black Flag are must haves.

Another interesting group I just got in to is Black President.

DOA's Hardcore '81 is prolly as good a place to start as any.

But I'm guessing you're looking for things like DRI, Nuclear Assault, SOD or possibly NYHC like Agnostic Front.

Hardcore isn't one partucilar thing, it's a really fucking broad term covering anything from Oi! to pathetic whimperings of angsty teens. You should try to narrow it down a bit.

Citizen's Arrest/Rorschach/Bluetip/Econochrist/Snowblood/Channel 3/Generic/Pleasent Valley Children/Boxed In/John Holmes/Hard To Swallow/Stalingrad/Charred Remains/Bleeding Rectum/Brawl/De Novissimus/Bastard Youth/Jobbykrust/The Dagda/Dawson/Urko/Kitchener/Unwound/Flux Of Pink Indians/Broccoli/Pale Horse/Evil Kinevil/Leatherface/Fingerprint/Vide Psychique/Totalitar/Larm/Tragedy/Harum Scarum/Dystopia/Victims Family/Th'Inbred/Poison Idea/From Ashes Rise/Trbngr/Subhumans/SFA/Nation OF Ulysses/Bikinni Kill/Doom/Teengenerate/Buzzoven/Nausea/Amebix/Jawbreaker/Ebola/Health Hazard/Los Crudos/The Ex/Wat Tyler/Downcast/Lungfish/Drop Dead...

...for some reason I am having a complete mental block on the names of all the Profane Existence/tight-black-trousers crust bands here.

Man Is The Bastard

What a band. What a feckin band.

Underoath and Norma Jean are both good bands.

Underoath and Norma Jean are both good bands.

Possibly...if you can stand Christian music.

Speaking of HC, I was just kissing my beautiful immigrant wife goodmorning with Dr.Martens Skinheads going:
Skinhead girl, Skinhead girl
Your beauty's over town like a rainbow in the sky
Skinhead girl, Skinhead girl
You must protect your name, so our race will never die.
In the background, so it dawned on me it might be a good idea to check into some new, non-Nazi Oi! Anyone got some recommendations?

I've decided that I'm becoming tired of metal, and have decided to try and get into hardcore [punk, not techno]. So I'd like some recommendations: what are the most essential albums? What are some of the subgenres and their best bands? I'm talking about all kinds of hardcore, from Black Flag to Converge.

I'm counting on you guys! Thanks in advance for the recommendations.

I thought of pr0n too.

...In the background, so it dawned on me it might be a good idea to check into some new, non-Nazi Oi! Anyone got some recommendations?

Hard Skin or Runnin' Riot.

SICK OF IT ALL

Everything mentioned so far plus:

Battalion of Saints
Negative Approach
Fall Of Troy
The Number 12 Looks Like You
Set It Straight
Walls Of Jericho
Really Red
Die Kreuzen
Scream
MDC
SS Decontrol
Arkangel
Soilwork
Ruined In A Day
At The Drive In
Betrayed
Lifetime
Navio Forge
7 Seconds
Gang Green
FEAR
Between The Wars
The Procedure
Enter Shikari
Killswitch Engage
Frail
Million Dead
Song Of Zarathustra
Since By Man
Modern Life Is War
Jairus
Jawbreaker
Hot Cross
Forstella Ford
Death By Stereo
Between The Buried And Me
Coalesce
Botch
Cave In
The Assistant

Possibly...if you can stand Christian music.Well neither of these bands push there religion on you through there music. There is a distinct difference between being a Christian band and Christians in a band.

Bands I haven't seen mentioned yet:

Cryptic Slaughter
Repulsion
Government Issue (early)
Big Black
D.I.
T.S.O.L. (early)
Circle Jerks
The Crucifucks
The Dicks

Surpringly, nobody mentioned Dead Kennedys, either.

Underoath and Norma Jean are both good bands.

Norma Jean are a sad attempt at being Botch.

Shonen Knife (http://www.shonenknife.net/)

Hard Skin or Runnin' Riot.Thanks, but I'm quite familiar with both already. Any chance you'd spam me with a bunch of names instead?

Surpringly, nobody mentioned Dead Kennedys, either.

I kinda took it as a given.

I kinda took it as a given.

Indeed. The OP mentioned Black Flag so i'd assume he's familiar.

The world would be better off without this type of music.

The world would be better off without this type of music.You're oversimplifying. The improvement's produced by the synergism of removing both you and this kind of music from the world.

Anyway, what's the problem? It's not exactly infecting the airwaves. Chances are you're not gonna know what it is, unless you make a point of getting to hear it.