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That Wacky Karl Rove!

Lunatic Goofballs
16-03-2007, 09:47
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/attorneys.rove/index.html

But earlier Thursday, Rove told an audience at an Alabama college that the administration had "reasonable and appropriate disagreements" with the remaining seven that justified their removals, and Democrats who now control Congress "want to play politics with it."

Rove: "How dare Democrats make a political issue out of our political issue?!? "

:p
Zexaland
16-03-2007, 09:58
How exactly can you NOT play politics with Congress, period?
Gauthier
16-03-2007, 10:14
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/attorneys.rove/index.html



Rove: "How dare Democrats make a political issue out of our political issue?!? "

:p

Karl is desperate to avoid the "How do YOU like it, bitch!?" sensation ever since he failed to save Congress from t3h 3b1l d0m0crattz in November.
Demented Hamsters
16-03-2007, 12:35
Hasn't that always been typical Rove tactics - to hurl the filth that he's wallowing in at the opposition and then decry them for the mud they've got on them.
Sad thing is that there's still ppl out there (and on here) that will happily swallow what he's shovelling.

Incidently, one the emails went as follows:
"we would like to replace 15-20 percent of the current U.S. Attorneys -- the underperforming ones . . . The vast majority of U.S. Attorneys, 80-85 percent, I would guess, are doing a great job, are loyal Bushies, etc., etc."
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Also: Did you know that investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny.
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Playing politics, indeed...
Dishonorable Scum
16-03-2007, 14:17
Also: Did you know that investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny.

So, let's apply some Fox Noise spin to that: "This just proves how corrupt Democrats are! Look at how much more often they are indicted!" :rolleyes:

Another example of blatant poltical hypocrisy is the people currently saying that the Democrats should just "get over" the assorted crimes of the Bush administration; these are exactly the same people who never, ever got over the fact that Bill Clinton was elected president, and who largely still haven't gotten over that fact. (You know who you are. Admit it, and get over it.)

Of course, hypocrisy works. It always has, and it always will. This is why Rove is a political mastermind instead of an idiot.
:headbang:
Farnhamia
16-03-2007, 14:40
He also trotted out the firing of prosecutors at the beginning of the Clinton administration, only instead of 93, the number has now gone up to 123. Excuse me, Karl, but didn't you know that it's not unusual for an incoming administration to ask for those resignations, especially when taking over from the other party? The Shrub didn't ask anyone in Clinton's cabinet to stay, did he?
Arthais101
16-03-2007, 14:44
He also trotted out the firing of prosecutors at the beginning of the Clinton administration, only instead of 93, the number has now gone up to 123. Excuse me, Karl, but didn't you know that it's not unusual for an incoming administration to ask for those resignations, especially when taking over from the other party? The Shrub didn't ask anyone in Clinton's cabinet to stay, did he?

And thus the crucial difference. Clinton did it at the start of his administration, to clean house.

Bush is doing it in the middle of his SECOND term, because the people he fired weren't getting inditements against democrats fast enough.
Ifreann
16-03-2007, 14:46
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/attorneys.rove/index.html



Rove: "How dare Democrats make a political issue out of our political issue?!? "

:p

"My political issue! Mine! Democrats can't spin, only Karly can spin it"
Arthais101
16-03-2007, 14:46
Maybe we should "play politics" out of the mass firings of US Attorneys done by Janet Reno.

wow, we already predicted you.
Eve Online
16-03-2007, 14:49
http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/15/attorneys.rove/index.html

Rove: "How dare Democrats make a political issue out of our political issue?!? "

:p

Maybe we should "play politics" out of the mass firings of US Attorneys done by Janet Reno.
Dishonorable Scum
16-03-2007, 15:14
wow, we already predicted you.

Further evidence that Eve Online is not Deep Kimchi. DK would have come up with something completely off-the-wall and unpredictable, except that it probably would have involved the Warren Commission somehow. :p
Andaluciae
16-03-2007, 15:15
As evidenced by that chin, he really ought to give up on the mayonnaise sometime soon.
Farnhamia
16-03-2007, 15:34
Further evidence that Eve Online is not Deep Kimchi. DK would have come up with something completely off-the-wall and unpredictable, except that it probably would have involved the Warren Commission somehow. :p

"Johnson didn't even wait until the 1964 election to let every single person on the Warren Commission go!"
The Nazz
16-03-2007, 18:44
So, let's apply some Fox Noise spin to that: "This just proves how corrupt Democrats are! Look at how much more often they are indicted!" :rolleyes:

Colbert beat them to it a couple of nights ago. :D
Utracia
16-03-2007, 19:01
Also: Did you know that investigations and/or indictments of candidates and elected officials by U.S. attorneys since the Bush administration came to power. Of the 375 cases they identified, 10 involved independents, 67 involved Republicans and 298 involved Democrats. The main source of this partisan tilt was a huge disparity in investigations of local politicians, in which Democrats were seven times as likely as Republicans to face Justice Department scrutiny.

I suppose somehow this must all be some liberal conspiracy to make the Bush government look bad...
Lunatic Goofballs
16-03-2007, 19:03
I suppose somehow this must all be some liberal conspiracy to make the Bush government look bad...

Wrong cospiracy. Apparently, the masterminds of the conspiracy to make the Bush government look bad are... um.... the Bush government. :p
The Nazz
16-03-2007, 19:25
Wrong cospiracy. Apparently, the masterminds of the conspiracy to make the Bush government look bad are... um.... the Bush government. :p

They're doing a hell of a job. If they only did a heckuva job, they wouldn't be as unpopular as they are.
Arthais101
16-03-2007, 19:28
Colbert beat them to it a couple of nights ago. :D

that's why Colbert = the man.

He thinks up their shit before they even think up their shit, all while not believing in any of it AND showing us all exactly how funny it is.
The Nazz
16-03-2007, 19:32
that's why Colbert = the man.

He thinks up their shit before they even think up their shit, all while not believing in any of it AND showing us all exactly how funny it is.

The Colbert Doctrine of Pre-Emptive Mockery. ;)
Farnhamia
16-03-2007, 19:33
The Colbert Doctrine of Pre-Emptive Mockery. ;)

:D

But they are pretty self-mocking, aren't they?
Ashmoria
16-03-2007, 19:40
all i know is that the president needs to shut up.

david iglesias was fired here shortly after two republican congressmen from new mexico called him up to find out why he wasnt working hard enough on indicting democrats on a certain case.

the congressmen ( pete dominici and heather wilson) claimed that they were just checking, not pressuring him or anything. he said he sure felt pressured.

this has opened a bit of an ethics investigation on them but i didnt think it was too too serious

until i heard the president say the other day that the attnys who got fired had only been fired after they had had complaints from congressmen.

oops. turns out that david iglesias was only put on the firing list after he got those calls. and now the president is saying that it was only after they complained about him?
Farnhamia
16-03-2007, 19:53
all i know is that the president needs to shut up.

david iglesias was fired here shortly after two republican congressmen from new mexico called him up to find out why he wasnt working hard enough on indicting democrats on a certain case.

the congressmen ( pete dominici and heather wilson) claimed that they were just checking, not pressuring him or anything. he said he sure felt pressured.

this has opened a bit of an ethics investigation on them but i didnt think it was too too serious

until i heard the president say the other day that the attnys who got fired had only been fired after they had had complaints from congressmen.

oops. turns out that david iglesias was only put on the firing list after he got those calls. and now the president is saying that it was only after they complained about him?

I think the President should just keep on talking, Ash. Every time he opens his mouth, the hole gets a little deeper.
The Nazz
16-03-2007, 20:06
you have a good point there!

it just distresses me that the president doesnt realize that he has some responsibility to other republicans and that "congress" isnt a one party body.
That's been his MO his entire life--it's all about him and everyone else is supposed to adjust around him. He's the Paris Hilton of politics, with about as much depth, but with his finger on the nuclear trigger. Scared yet?
Ashmoria
16-03-2007, 20:07
I think the President should just keep on talking, Ash. Every time he opens his mouth, the hole gets a little deeper.

you have a good point there!

it just distresses me that the president doesnt realize that he has some responsibility to other republicans and that "congress" isnt a one party body.

he was saying how his only regret is that congress hadnt been properly informed of what had happened and what was the beef, it was in response to congressional complaints.

wtf? he really didnt think that it was BAD to out republican congressmen that way? it turns out to be a bit of an ethical violation for congressmen to mess with us attnys.

he is worse than those emails rove sent to the justice dept.
Dishonorable Scum
16-03-2007, 20:14
Colbert beat them to it a couple of nights ago. :D

Yeah, but that's not exactly a fair contest. Colbert has more brains in his left big toe than the entire crew at Fox has in their collective heads.

:p
Szanth
16-03-2007, 20:20
Yeah, but that's not exactly a fair contest. Colbert has more brains in his left big toe than the entire crew at Fox has in their collective heads.

:p

I see what you did there.
Ashmoria
16-03-2007, 20:31
That's been his MO his entire life--it's all about him and everyone else is supposed to adjust around him. He's the Paris Hilton of politics, with about as much depth, but with his finger on the nuclear trigger. Scared yet?

ive been pretty scared since the days when i worried that he would be stupid enough to invade iraq.
Johnny B Goode
16-03-2007, 20:53
Rove: "How dare Democrats make a political issue out of our political issue?!? "

:p

Quoted for lolz.
Farnhamia
16-03-2007, 20:59
That's been his MO his entire life--it's all about him and everyone else is supposed to adjust around him. He's the Paris Hilton of politics, with about as much depth, but with his finger on the nuclear trigger. Scared yet?

And when something goes wrong, he just walks away.
The Nazz
16-03-2007, 21:08
And when something goes wrong, he just walks away.

And one of daddy's friends takes care of the mess. The similarities are eerie. No wonder Bush is so in favor of repealing the Paris Hilton tax.
New Burmesia
16-03-2007, 21:19
And one of daddy's friends takes care of the mess. The similarities are eerie. No wonder Bush is so in favor of repealing the Paris Hilton tax.
While exponentially increasing defence spending, like the fiscally responsible Republican he is.
Utracia
16-03-2007, 21:21
While exponentially increasing defence spending, like the fiscally responsible Republican he is.

Come on, Republicans know that Democrats are the evil "tax and spend" party while the noble GOP follows the "spend and spend" policy. Clearly the Republicans have the moral high ground in this. :rolleyes: