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Eating crabs ok, spiders no. Why?

Risottia
15-03-2007, 15:40
Inspired by the arachnophobia thread.

I eat crabs. I eat lobsters. I eat shrimps. I like them a lot. I also like eels.
But I cannot bear the idea of eating spiders, scorpions and snakes.
Yet crabs don't look very different from spiders; neither lobsters and shrimps from scorpions, or eels from snakes.

I think it is a cultural factor: in my culture eating crabs, lobster, shrimps and eels is normal, but spiders, scorpions and snakes are associated with danger, poison, and dirt.

What do you think? Do you eat snakes, spiders or scorpions? And crabs, lobsters etc? Would you try?
Edoniakistanbabweagua
15-03-2007, 15:41
Inspired by the arachnophobia thread.

I eat crabs. I eat lobsters. I eat shrimps. I like them a lot. I also like eels.
But I cannot bear the idea of eating spiders, scorpions and snakes.
Yet crabs don't look very different from spiders; neither lobsters and shrimps from scorpions, or eels from snakes.

I think it is a cultural factor: in my culture eating crabs, lobster, shrimps and eels is normal, but spiders, scorpions and snakes are associated with danger, poison, and dirt.

What do you think? Do you eat snakes, spiders or scorpions? And crabs, lobsters etc? Would you try?


Spiders taste bad, trust me.
Risottia
15-03-2007, 15:47
Spiders taste bad, trust me.

You actually tried them? Can you describe their taste? I'm curious.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 15:49
You actually tried them? Can you describe their taste? I'm curious.
I'd guess chicken. >.<
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 15:49
Yes-I'd eat any of those,once I reached a certain point.

As long as I know its not poisonous or diseased. As long as it is actually edible.
Today,I'd eat a squirrel or a rat if I was hungry, but I'd pass on the scorpion.

In two or three days,I'd be eating scorpions.

I have no problem at all with shellfish,snakes and even frogs.
Edoniakistanbabweagua
15-03-2007, 15:50
You actually tried them? Can you describe their taste? I'm curious.

Well it was on a dare back in my Ill-do-anything-for-$10 phase in middle school. Dead but not crushed. We fried it and I tried it. It had no taste but the exoskeleton felt slimey and the hairs were disconcerting too.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 15:53
Well it was on a dare back in my Ill-do-anything-for-$10 phase in middle school. Dead but not crushed. We fried it and I tried it. It had no taste but the exoskeleton felt slimey and the hairs were disconcerting too.

Yeah-I think I find spider hair unapealling.


Maybe after a week,I'd eat one. But that would be if there was no bark or grubs to be found first.
I V Stalin
15-03-2007, 15:55
I guess I'd probably have them if I were starving. Though as a vegetarian, I'm not going to hunt around the house for any stray spiders now, just to see what they taste like.
Proggresica
15-03-2007, 15:58
Well it was on a dare back in my Ill-do-anything-for-$10 phase in middle school. Dead but not crushed. We fried it and I tried it. It had no taste but the exoskeleton felt slimey and the hairs were disconcerting too.

What species was it? Why didn't you get poisoned or something?
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 15:59
Inspired by the arachnophobia thread.

I eat crabs. I eat lobsters. I eat shrimps. I like them a lot. I also like eels.
But I cannot bear the idea of eating spiders, scorpions and snakes.
Yet crabs don't look very different from spiders; neither lobsters and shrimps from scorpions, or eels from snakes.

I think it is a cultural factor: in my culture eating crabs, lobster, shrimps and eels is normal, but spiders, scorpions and snakes are associated with danger, poison, and dirt.

What do you think? Do you eat snakes, spiders or scorpions? And crabs, lobsters etc? Would you try?Yay, I'll totally take credit for inspiring this. ;p

I'm not a big friend of snakes but I could eat snake meat. I would MUCH rather eat snake meat than any kind of whole-roasted-bug. >.<

I also eat lobster and crab, although that's exclusively because I've grown up in a culture where they're eaten (not only that, they're even very desirable food).
As I mentioned in the other thread, however, I can't look at all those too many legs for too long or think about the fact that they're arachnoids for too long, or I will get queasy.

If scorpions had meat on them that could conceivably be eaten without them being served whole I would probably eat that, too.

Spiders, however, oh my God, never. Not even if they were so huge one could make cutlets out of them. Oh God. I can't even think about it.

I was switching channels on TV recently and happened upon a documentary about some rainforest tribe somewhere and of course just as I'm watching they're grilling this huge spider. I can still see all the legs flopping around even though I switched away in a split second. Gah, I'm getting goosebumps. >.<
Risottia
15-03-2007, 15:59
Yes-I'd eat any of those,once I reached a certain point.

I have no problem at all with shellfish,snakes and even frogs.

I wasn't thinking of extreme situations like starving.

Anyway, why problems with frogs? They're delicious, expecially in a risotto.
Dododecapod
15-03-2007, 16:00
I've eaten a Bird-Eating Spider. I was shown how to roast it in the coals of a fire, split the main body and eat the sweet flesh inside. Tasted a little like crayfish (rock lobster).
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 16:01
What species was it? Why didn't you get poisoned or something?Most spiders aren't poisonous. Unless you're in Australia or some other crazy place. <.<

Well it was on a dare back in my Ill-do-anything-for-$10 phase in middle school. Dead but not crushed. We fried it and I tried it. It had no taste but the exoskeleton felt slimey and the hairs were disconcerting too.

TMI!!!

...

...

*dies*
Dododecapod
15-03-2007, 16:02
Well, spiders are hairy and small. It'd take quite a few to make a meal, and they're solitary creatures(to my knowledge).

The spider I ate was the size of a dinner plate. That was after we'd removed the legs.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 16:02
I wasn't thinking of extreme situations like starving.

Anyway, why problems with frogs? They're delicious, expecially in a risotto.
Why, look at you. And here we're thinking the French were the only ones in Europe who (used to) eat le frogs...

I remember eating frog legs in France as a kid. They were tasty. Like tender chicken. [/politically incorrect]
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 16:03
The spider I ate was the size of a dinner plate. That was after we'd removed the legs.OMG.


What am I doing posting in these threads? *smacks self*
Ifreann
15-03-2007, 16:05
Well, spiders are hairy and small. It'd take quite a few to make a meal, and they're solitary creatures(to my rather limited knowledge).
Proggresica
15-03-2007, 16:06
Why, look at you. And here we're thinking the French were the only ones in Europe who (used to) eat le frogs...

I remember eating frog legs in France as a kid. They were tasty. Like tender chicken. [/politically incorrect]

*southern accent*
In America we call them Freedom Frogs!
Risottia
15-03-2007, 16:09
In America we call them Freedom Frogs!

Da, tovarish. In Soviet Freedom, Frogs call YOU!

:confused: :confused:
Risottia
15-03-2007, 16:11
Why, look at you. And here we're thinking the French were the only ones in Europe who (used to) eat le frogs...

Our good ol' French cousins...
Here in Lombardy we eat frogs and snails, too. Sadly, most of the younger generations are losing that habit and will go for a Big Mac instead of eating a snail ragout on polenta, or risotto with fried frogs.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 16:15
I wasn't thinking of extreme situations like starving.

Anyway, why problems with frogs? They're delicious, expecially in a risotto.

I dont view frogs as a main source of food,thats all. I've eaten frog's legs on frogs I've caught. I would have no problem eating them again.
I have survival training. And I hope if I ever HAVE to survive,frogs are available.
I wouldnt order them in a restaurant,I just dont love them.

I can imagine them in risotto and agree thats probably a tasty way to eat them. I just think I have eaten them under different circumstances than you have.

I like rabbit too. I dont care for snails, but have eaten both freshwater and saltwater types.


My wife has urged me to go on "Survivor", but that show is no longer about actually surviving as much as cheating and telling lies and trying to be unique or outrageous enough for 15 minutes of fame.
Proggresica
15-03-2007, 16:15
I ate a worm in junior high, I didn't chew it, I rolled it up, and swallowed it with a swig of Dr. Pepper. [/random]

I think the deal is that we are indoctrinated that bugs are icky.

Hmm, maybe a new line of thought that some smart person may be able to shed light on: is taste subjective? If so, to what extent?
UN Protectorates
15-03-2007, 16:16
I ate a batch of large shrimp whilst in Portugal. Got a major stomach ache afterward.

As far as crabs and spiders go, I personally don't really see much similarity between them.

I bloody love crabs, but I'm afraid of spiders.

Oh yeah, also I've eaten Lobster and Snails before. Both very interesting.

Lobster = Texture like a fish, chewy like chicken

Snail = Very chewy. Bland taste without sauce
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 16:17
Our good ol' French cousins...
Here in Lombardy we eat frogs and snails, too. Sadly, most of the younger generations are losing that habit and will go for a Big Mac instead of eating a snail ragout on polenta, or risotto with fried frogs.
Meh, I think snails are overrated. They're served with a fantastically yummy garlic oil sauce here but, truth be told, it's really only the sauce that's so yummy, the snails are mostly just endlessly tough (as in unchewable) little buggers.

Also, you can eat as many snails and frogs as you want as long as they're bred for that purpose. I'm not so sure about collecting them in the wild. Specific kinds of "gourmet" snails are still on the brink of extinction in some regions and collecting them is restricted by law here.

*southern accent*
In America we call them Freedom Frogs!Lol, I only just now realized that you do in fact live in Australia, that crazy place with the poisonous spiders. :p
Smunkeeville
15-03-2007, 16:17
I ate a worm in junior high, I didn't chew it, I rolled it up, and swallowed it with a swig of Dr. Pepper. [/random]

I think the deal is that we are indoctrinated that bugs are icky.
Rejistania
15-03-2007, 16:18
My grandma was offered snake on her trip to the PRC. She asked how it would taste and received the answer: "Like dog!" She didn't eat it...
Misterymeat
15-03-2007, 16:19
http://www.seagrant.gso.uri.edu/research/georges_bank/Images/Species%20picts/Used/Liparis%20atlanticus%20large.jpg

I've had this guy...Didn't taste good.
Smunkeeville
15-03-2007, 16:22
Hmm, maybe a new line of thought that some smart person may be able to shed light on: is taste subjective? If so, to what extent?

I think it is, I am not sure to what extent.

Texture is really important to me, if the texture is weird I can't eat it.
Rejistania
15-03-2007, 16:25
Meh, I think snails are overrated. They're served with a fantastically yummy garlic oil sauce here but, truth be told, it's really only the sauce that's so yummy, the snails are mostly just endlessly tough (as in unchewable) little buggers.



I like snails and do not think they are unchewable...
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 16:25
Meh, I think snails are overrated. They're served with a fantastically yummy garlic oil sauce here but, truth be told, it's really only the sauce that's so yummy, the snails are mostly just endlessly tough (as in unchewable) little buggers.

I had frogs' legs and snails in France. I thought the frogs' legs were like chicken but without any flavour, and the snails were gritty and tasted a bit like mud.
Fortunately the snails were served in garlic butter, so you dip the frogs' legs in that and eat them that way. Hurrah!
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 16:29
I like snails and do not think they are unchewable...Hmm. Did they come in the usual garlic oil sauce thingy?

I had frogs' legs and snails in France. I thought the frogs' legs were like chicken but without any flavour, and the snails were gritty and tasted a bit like mud.
Fortunately the snails were served in garlic butter, so you dip the frogs' legs in that and eat them that way. Hurrah!Wait, you had snails and frogs'legs in one meal together? What was that, the Tourist Special? :p
Carisbrooke
15-03-2007, 16:31
I ate dog biscuits once when I was a kid, does that count as exotic?
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 16:32
Wait, you had snails and frogs'legs in one meal together? What was that, the Tourist Special? :p

Pretty much. It was a school residential trip, so to reduce the amount of "please eat the foreign food, you might like it, just one" directed at the kids they served all the unusual stuff at once.

Edit:
I ate dog biscuits once when I was a kid, does that count as exotic?

Cat food.

Twice >_<
Risottia
15-03-2007, 16:39
I like rabbit too.

Also eating rabbits and hares is quite normal here. This is a very simple way to cook it:
first you roast the rabbit for a while in a casserole with some olive oil (or butter) and sage
then you fill the casserole with milk and a pinch of salt, and let it simmer until the water of the milk has gone away and left just some light-brown crumbs. (that's about 1 hour, but it depends)

My wife has urged me to go on "Survivor", but that show is no longer about actually surviving as much as cheating and telling lies and trying to be unique or outrageous enough for 15 minutes of fame.
TV is teh ebil. We know that....
Edoniakistanbabweagua
15-03-2007, 16:41
Naw it was a banana spider. I wasn't going to eat a black widow for $10 bucks. If you're gonna pay me to eat that, you'd better bring a credit card ;)
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 16:59
I ate dog biscuits once when I was a kid, does that count as exotic?

I think anyone with a dog has tried this. Those "Bonz" the fake bone with the fake marrow were actually good.



:p
Dobbsworld
15-03-2007, 17:48
Inspired by the arachnophobia thread.

I eat crabs. I eat lobsters. I eat shrimps. I like them a lot. I also like eels.
But I cannot bear the idea of eating spiders, scorpions and snakes.
Yet crabs don't look very different from spiders; neither lobsters and shrimps from scorpions, or eels from snakes.

I think it is a cultural factor: in my culture eating crabs, lobster, shrimps and eels is normal, but spiders, scorpions and snakes are associated with danger, poison, and dirt.

What do you think? Do you eat snakes, spiders or scorpions? And crabs, lobsters etc? Would you try?

It's funny - I don't eat crab, lobster or shrimp because they're big water bugs. Blecch. I wouldn't eat a spider, either.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 18:27
It's funny - I don't eat crab, lobster or shrimp because they're big water bugs. Blecch. I wouldn't eat a spider, either.

think of how many people wouldnt eat shrimp in their natural state with antenna,etc?

Or even chicken? People are so out of touch with where their food comes from as well as its processing.

maybe if they were more aware,they'd also be more appreciative and less wasteful.
Byzantium2006
15-03-2007, 18:32
i must agree. I love frog legs, especially playing with them after eating off all the meat. :D
[NS]Trilby63
15-03-2007, 18:35
I've eaten a Bird-Eating Spider. I was shown how to roast it in the coals of a fire, split the main body and eat the sweet flesh inside. Tasted a little like crayfish (rock lobster).

Rock Lobster? (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wCMXndj6Fts)
UNITIHU
15-03-2007, 18:35
I wouldn't eat a spider because it's too alien. I just can't imagine people grilling up large spiders and eating them. I suppose that means it's a cultural thing, because I don't think eating crabs and lobsters is weird.
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 18:36
think of how many people wouldnt eat shrimp in their natural state with antenna,etc?

Don't prawns/shrimp often come like that? Especially in restaurants, as decoration?

Or even chicken?

I'm a pheasant plucker.
Korarchaeota
15-03-2007, 18:39
When I was young, my grandparents owned a restaurant outside of Boston; we had frog legs and snails all the time, and I never thought of it as terribly exotic, until you'd mention it to someone else and they'd get all squeamish about it.

I guess I'd avoid spider and scorpions on the basis of possible venom, but it's probably cultural too. I know most spiders aren't venomous, but I still have a scar on my stomach from a spider bite I got several years back, so I've got a bit of a bias there.
Dobbsworld
15-03-2007, 18:40
think of how many people wouldnt eat shrimp in their natural state with antenna,etc?

Or even chicken? People are so out of touch with where their food comes from as well as its processing.

maybe if they were more aware,they'd also be more appreciative and less wasteful.

I figure there's a lotta water-bugs that owe their continued existence to my personal preferences in dining.
Dobbsworld
15-03-2007, 19:14
I'm a pheasant plucker.

Pleased to meet you, I'm a pleasant phucker.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 19:46
Don't prawns/shrimp often come like that? Especially in restaurants, as decoration?



In fancy places or down south. I imagine most shrimp arrive on the plate as cleaned tails only.
Ciudatenia
15-03-2007, 19:47
Well I would eat pretty much anything if it tastes good. I ate quite a few exotic things, like crabs, lobsters and woodworms (I don't know their english name). I also had the occasion to eat fried ants (some sort of african ants) and they were quite good.
The woodworms were boiled, then roasted and were the size of a thumb. Tasted very much like chicken.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 20:07
I ate them in tomato-sauce. Maybe the tomatoes' acidity made them more tender.

The secret's in the sauce, as a movie once so unappetizingly put it. :)
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 20:08
In fancy places or down south. I imagine most shrimp arrive on the plate as cleaned tails only.

Oh right.
It's pretty common in Blighty. I've shelled and pulled the heads off hundreds of the little buggers...
Rejistania
15-03-2007, 20:09
Hmm. Did they come in the usual garlic oil sauce thingy?


I ate them in tomato-sauce.
Delator
15-03-2007, 20:19
I enjoy crab, and shrimp is one of my favorite foods. I've tried snake before (though I don't remember what kind of snake) and it was ok...not something I'm going to buy if it shows up in my supermarket aisle, but not bad.

I don't much care for lobster. As for scorpions or spiders...I'd have to be starving. I'd rather stick with fried ants, which are quite tasty...I think they taste kinda like cashews.

Meh on the eel...my dad says they're gross.

I'll try most anything once...but I'll stay away from the spiders, thanks. :p