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In the spirit of the 'Worst beer'-thread, I thought I should as what you concider to be the best american beer. We have a somewhat limited access to beer from the US here in Sweden, but I really enjoy the Brooklyn Lager, everything else I've tasted was horsepiss. Are there any other brands I should sample? Cheers!

Anchor Steam.

Anchor Steam, also Stone Imperial Russian Stout

*Takes notes* I hope they are avalible here, I always like to try new kinds of beer. :)

We have a somewhat limited access to beer from the US here in Sweden

There is a very good reason for that.

There is a very good reason for that.

Well, generally I agree, american beer isn't generally very good. There are however guldkorns, and it would be nice to find them. I've found so many other great beers, thought it was time for the US to do its share of damage to my liver. :)

Well, generally I agree, american beer isn't generally very good. There are however guldkorns, and it would be nice to find them. I've found so many other great beers, thought it was time for the US to do its share of damage to my liver. :)

Oh, knock yourself out, by all means, it's just not the most prudent thing to ask people from the US to tell you about good beers.

Oh come on, Anchor Steam's great, and I'll have to try that Stone Russian Imperial Stout, sounds interesting, but there have gotta be other small brewing companies in the US... why is nobody speaking up? Does nobody from the US on NS General like any decent beer?

I would think a topic about beer would get more responses. You'd almost think NS General was a den of sobriety.

If you have nothing to contribute, why not just ignore this thread?

A caveat is not nothing. It's very valuable in this case (oh, Heretichia, it pains me to imagine what sort of suffering you're going to put yourself through - mitt hjärta, det brister på det mest medkännande sättet som hinns med under den minut jag hinner bry mig), indeed, and especially when directed in the protection of a countryman.

Oh, knock yourself out, by all means, it's just not the most prudent thing to ask people from the US to tell you about good beers.

If you have nothing to contribute, why not just ignore this thread?

I would think a topic about beer would get more responses. You'd almost think NS General was a den of sobriety.

I believe since it's approaching noon in Europe, that it's night in the US. They may just be sleeping.

New Belgium is a decent brewing company, Blue Paddle, Fat Tire, etc. . .


Also the Flying Dog Brewery is very good. For the dark and bitter fans - Gonzo Imperial Porter, other than that, Road Dog.

A caveat is not nothing. It's very valuable in this case (oh, Heretichia, it pains me to imagine what sort of suffering you're going to put yourself through - mitt hjärta, det brister på det mest medkännande sättet som hinns med under den minut jag hinner bry mig), indeed, and especially when directed in the protection of a countryman.

It is nothing. The thread asked for names of good beers from the United States. Obviously, you've never had any. You're just using what would otherwise be a completely harmless thread about beer as an opportunity to act like a jerk. It's childish and really not one of your funnier escapades. No reason to do so. It's just beer, which I would think wouldn't be such a controversial subject.

I will admit, if you're looking for good beer, don't go anywhere near anything that says "Bud," "Miller," "Coors," or anything that's advertised on TV here. That is stuff is fucking nasty. Anchor Steam, as mentioned before, is a good small beer. Coastal Fog is a good beer that nobody except me seems to have heard of. There's a small brewary named Stanislaus something, up by the river of the same name. Generally, what is advertised on TV is stuff to stay the hell away from.

Sam Adams Boston Lager.
And sleep is overrated.

I believe since it's approaching noon in Europe, that it's night in the US. They may just be sleeping.

Pssh... it's only 3 AM, the night's not even begun...

It is nothing. The thread asked for names of good beers from the United States.

And the caveat was that to ask of "good" from people from the US when it comes to beer is quite the imprudent thing to do. It's like asking a witch's child which of the teats is less sour. It's still going to be witch's milk. Hence the caveat is more than nothing, it goes to the very core of the thread.

Obviously, you've never had any.

Replace "obviously" with "unsurprisingly".

You're just using what would otherwise be a completely harmless thread about beer as an opportunity to act like a jerk. It's childish and really not one of your funnier escapades.

Jerk to whom? I was being very nice to Heretichia. Or, wait, are you taking me not liking US beer personally for some reason? How pathetic.

Best American Beer - isn't that like asking which is the tallest dwarf:p

Pssh... it's only 3 AM, the night's not even begun...

No, it's 6 AM here in Ohio...

I cannot find decent american beers here in Italy:( . The Bud - omnipresent - sucks.

No, it's 6 AM here in Ohio...

3 AM. PST supremacy.

jk. I sometimes forget that others are not quite so nocturnal.

jk. I sometimes forget that others are not quite so nocturnal.

What makes you think that? I've been awake all night. :p

No, you're the pathetic one. This is a thread about beer. Beer.

No, the thread is about "US beer" - not actual beer. That is the point. That is the caveat.

And my, you really did take it personally. I was just joking, but now that's just sad.

And the caveat was that to ask of "good" from people from the US when it comes to beer is quite the imprudent thing to do. It's like asking a witch's child which of the teats is less sour. It's still going to be witch's milk. Hence the caveat is more than nothing, it goes to the very core of the thread.



Replace "obviously" with "unsurprisingly".



Jerk to whom? I was being very nice to Heretichia. Or, wait, are you taking me not liking US beer personally for some reason? How pathetic.

No, you're the pathetic one. This is a thread about beer. Beer. It's not even political (ironically, if it was, I'd probably be agreeing with you). Somehow, you've managed to be an ass and inject negativity into a thread about beer. You're as prejudiced as any homophobe. About beer. It's sad really. I am simply stunned. Initially, I tried not to be rude in my disagreement with you, but obviously there's no point.

If you're basing your opinion on American beer on the likes of Budweiser, that's rather like me basing my opinion of Scandinavian furniture on Ikea. I'm sure I could get far better from a local shop than a huge company. The same applies with beer. The fact that instead of presenting examples or anything of the like and instead simply resort to demeaning me (over beer, beer!) for no reason is unfortunate.

What makes you think that? I've been awake all night. :p

I probably will be. Procrastination of studying is fun.

It's like asking a witch's child which of the teats is less sour. It's still going to be witch's milk. Hence the caveat is more than nothing, it goes to the very core of the thread.
That's the weirdest analogy I've ever heard.

That's the weirdest analogy I've ever heard.

Sorry, I just a read a text with the idiom "colder than a witch's tit" in it and I can't shake the mental image. :\

But witch's tits are just oh so hot.

Google image search tells me otherwise. Not that I'd find any tits hot, but this was... ugh...

No, I have no idea why I had to do a GIS. I just know that I had to.

Sorry, I just a read a text with the idiom "colder than a witch's tit" in it and I can't shake the mental image. :\

But witch's tits are just oh so hot.

Yuengling without a doubt. :D

Google image search tells me otherwise. Not that I'd find any tits hot, but this was... ugh...

No, I have no idea why I had to do a GIS. I just know that I had to.

That's true, you wouldn't find tits hot. Uh oh, did screen shots from the old Macbeth movie come up? The witches in that were distinctly lacking in hotness, as were their tits, which were unfortunately plainly visible. I doubt I have ever had a worse experience in an English class than that part of that movie.

That's true, you wouldn't find tits hot. Uh oh, did screen shots from the old Macbeth movie come up? The witches in that were distinctly lacking in hotness, as were their tits, which were unfortunately plainly visible. I doubt I have ever had a worse experience in an English class than that part of that movie.

From beer to arguments to Macbeths bitch witch tits in just two pages! :D
Anyways, It's hard to get your hands on anything except Bud and Corrs and such here, but sometimes you get lucky. Brazilian beer was pretty nasty too... atleast the few brands I've tried... But at the end of the day, the brits make the best beer and ale...

Anchor Steam.

Anchor's pretty good. Their porter is outstanding, in fact. Another good beer from out West is Sierra Nevada. They've got a good porter as well. (I'm a fan of heavier beers myself, so porters and stouts are my preference.)

Yuengling without a doubt. :D

Also pretty good, but it's not really available outside the mid-Atlantic States. I make sure I grab a pint, though, everytime I pass through BWI. :cool:

All American BEER tastes like watered down drain cleaner. The best tasting ones taste like undiluted drain cleaner.

You haven't had all American beer, I'm sure, so run along. Though I might suggest you try chugging some drain cleaner.

All American BEER tastes like watered down drain cleaner. The best tasting ones taste like undiluted drain cleaner.

All American BEER tastes like watered down drain cleaner. The best tasting ones taste like undiluted drain cleaner.

There are some damned good American beers, you just really have to look for them. They're often from small breweries that only ship within their state or within a few states. Rarely do they make it overseas.

I've discovered that French beer is just as bad, if not worse than mass produced American beer. If it weren't for the Belgians I'd probably have died in the month and a half since I've moved here. Do note that the French do make up for their shitty beer with decent, inexpensive wines and hard ciders.

As for a particular American beer, I'm a huge fan of anything from Bell's Brewery, especially their Best Brown Ale (http://www.bellsbeer.com/branddetail.asp?BrandID=8). Unfortunately, Bell's has a limited shipping area in North America.

There are some damned good American beers, you just really have to look for them. They're often from small breweries that only ship within their state or within a few states. Rarely do they make it overseas.

I've discovered that French beer is just as bad, if not worse than mass produced American beer. If it weren't for the Belgians I'd probably have died in the month and a half since I've moved here. Do note that the French do make up for their shitty beer with decent, inexpensive wines and hard ciders.

As for a particular American beer, I'm a huge fan of anything from Bell's Brewery, especially their Best Brown Ale (http://www.bellsbeer.com/branddetail.asp?BrandID=8). Unfortunately, Bell's has a limited shipping area in North America.

Hooray, a real beer drinker. You're right, French beer is shit as is their wine which they're having trouble selling now because of the global market.

It's a sad fact that the only American beers we get on this side of the pond are from the big branded names that have the money and marketing muscle. While I was in Boston, the pub across the street from the hotel did mostly European bottled beers, I wonder why???

Do you have "White Beer" in America?

While I was in Boston, the pub across the street from the hotel did mostly European bottled beers, I wonder why???

Um...maybe cuz you were right across the street from a hotel?

Do you have "White Beer" in America?

Yeah, we get it here. It tastes like ass.

Why does it have to be the best American beer? Isn't that a little ethnocentric?

Besides, German beer is infinitely superior.

And Russian vodka trumps every alcoholic drink produced ever. Besides Real Scots Whisky.

For those of you that are not in the U.S., you will never taste a "good" American beer, unless visiting. Good beers are not mass produced here. Most come from small brewerier or Micro-breweries. Rogue and Summit are some small breweries that make great Porters, Stouts, etc.

Argh! The blue letters hurt my eyes!

For those of you that are not in the U.S., you will never taste a "good" American beer, unless visiting. Good beers are not mass produced here. Most come from small brewerier or Micro-breweries. Rogue and Summit are some small breweries that make great Porters, Stouts, etc.

In the spirit of the 'Worst beer'-thread, I thought I should as what you concider to be the best american beer. We have a somewhat limited access to beer from the US here in Sweden, but I really enjoy the Brooklyn Lager, everything else I've tasted was horsepiss. Are there any other brands I should sample? Cheers!

Hehe best American beer? Thats an oxymoron innit, I thought they only had lager over there, or am I wrong on that score?

Hehe best American beer? Thats an oxymoron innit, I thought they only had lager over there, or am I wrong on that score?

Yeah, you're wrong. Try reading the thread.

Yeah, you're wrong. Try reading the thread.

Damn me but I'm at work and far too lazy to read a whole 3 pages. Tell me do you make ale over there then?:eek:

Sierra Nevada pale ale is OK. Dale's Pale Ale tastes almost identical to it. Rogue Dead guy ale is pretty good too. In New Jersey the River Horse brewery makes some decent beers, but stay away from the "Hop Hazzard" pale ale. There is such a thing as too much hops.

Sierra Nevada pale ale is OK. Dale's Pale Ale tastes almost identical to it. Rogue Dead guy ale is pretty good too. In New Jersey the River Horse brewery makes some decent beers, but stay away from the "Hop Hazzard" pale ale. There is such a thing as too much hops.

Ahhhhh that's like a magic word, ale!:cool:

Damn me but I'm at work and far too lazy to read a whole 3 pages. Tell me do you make ale over there then?:eek:

Um...yes...we make all sorts of beers here.

Not quite. Breweries in my state generally produce ales and stouts, but I don't really know what they do in the rest of the country.

Ohh noo stop it stout now!:cool:

You haven't had all American beer, I'm sure, so run along. Though I might suggest you try chugging some drain cleaner.

There are a few squeaky douchebags around that should do shotguns of anything with lye in it.

Hehe best American beer? Thats an oxymoron innit, I thought they only had lager over there, or am I wrong on that score?

Not quite. Breweries in my state generally produce ales and stouts, but I don't really know what they do in the rest of the country.

Here is an excellent beer,brewed in PA,USA:

http://www.victorybeer.com/pils.html

And someone I think already mentioned this one,America's oldest running brewery:

http://www.yuengling.com/beers.htm

The folks at New Belgium (http://www.newbelgium.com/index.php) make some tasty brews. I'm not that fond of Fat Tire but I do like the seasonals.

BEER. It is hard to describe the best beer in the U.S. On second thought it is relatively easy. Almost everything in the U.S. can be divided into two types, the mass produced and the great. Now I would prefer to be a local snob, prefering my own nearby Southampton Public House, but instead I will go north and west, still remaining in my state, to the mecca of Baseball. I give you THE THREE PHILOSOPHERS!

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There is wisdom in that bottle I tell you! (Well there was, it's empty now, you will have to get your own bottle!)

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"American beer" is a contradiction in terms.

"American beer" is a contradiction in terms.

Hehe I was just thinking, 'contradiction in terms' isn't that an oxymoron?

I've only tried Budweiser and Coors, and the countless variants of each, and they are every inch as dire as Stella, Fosters or Boddington's.

Also the Flying Dog Brewery is very good. For the dark and bitter fans - Gonzo Imperial Porter, other than that, Road Dog.

Flying Dog is quite good...I always get their sample 12 pack for summer bonfires, since all my friends have different tastes.

Sam Adams Boston Lager.

Sam Adams is probably the only decent mass-produced beer in the US.

I happen to enjoy it quite a bit...I always buy some when I know the party is going to be mostly Budweiser.

Another good beer from out West is Sierra Nevada.

Sierra Nevada is excellent...though it's pretty expensive here.

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Leine's! My home state!

Good stuff...but stay away from the Honey Weiss! *nods*

Like "British Food" ?

Oh, snap!

Edit: Yay...warp!

"American beer" is a contradiction in terms.

Like "British Food" ?

Like "British Food" ?

British "Cuisine" ... they have "Food" :eek:

Yuengling, Sam Adams, Magic Hat.

Sierra Nevada is excellent...though it's pretty expensive here.


My aunt swears by it. It's pretty popular around here.

Seems as though with most good beers you won't find them outside of the area they're produced in.

And someone I think already mentioned this one,America's oldest running brewery:

http://www.yuengling.com/beers.htm

Take a drive down here to the brewery, they give free tours followed by free beer! And it's actually a very family freindly tour. *nods*

Um...maybe cuz you were right across the street from a hotel?



Yeah, we get it here. It tastes like ass.

You are right, American beer tastes like ass, I can only take your word for it as I don't try ass. We use them for taking slow rides along the beach here while drinking tea and eating icecream. And the bar in Boston does an excellent trade in good imported European beer 'cos American beer tastes, like you say, ass.

Yuengling Black & Tan

I'm going to have to see if I can get my hands on some of Yuengling's beers over here, seeing as so many of you Americans claim it's good.

Are any of their beers considerably better than the rest, or should I just go for one that matches my own taste?

What?

Do Americans have beer?

Next you gonna tell me they have internet and cellular phones... even TV! Don't make me laugh!

Joona

British "Cuisine" ... they have "Food" :eek:

Yeah man! Steak and kidney pudding with mash potaoes and gravy, ummm ummm yummy! The great Brittish stodge, ohh heheh and curry!

You are right, American beer tastes like ass, I can only take your word for it as I don't try ass. We use them for taking slow rides along the beach here while drinking tea and eating icecream. And the bar in Boston does an excellent trade in good imported European beer 'cos American beer tastes, like you say, ass.

You misquoted me. Nice work. :rolleyes:

Like "British Food" ?

Yeah, that and "British dental hygiene." :p

Take a drive down here to the brewery, they give free tours followed by free beer! And it's actually a very family freindly tour. *nods*

its on my list of things to try to do this summer. I think its about two hours away.

Yeah, that and "British dental hygiene." :p

Oi oi we do not have bad teeth.

Ohh shit okay I'll let ya have that one, just coz ya got a lardy arse(and BTW I can spell arse proper like):D

Sam Adams Boston Lager.

Hell no, that shit is nasty.

Oi oi we do not have bad teeth.

Ohh shit okay I'll let ya have that one, just coz ya got a lardy arse(and BTW I can spell arse proper like):D

When did I get a lardy arse? When I used to play hooker for my uni team, the guys in the second row complained that my arse was too bony. :p

When did I get a lardy arse? When I used to play hooker for my uni team, the guys in the second row complained that my arse was too bony. :p

Well ya know if all Brits have bad teeth, then surly all Americans are fat!:p

When did I get a lardy arse? When I used to play hooker for my uni team, the guys in the second row complained that my arse was too bony. :p

You were a prostitute?

You were a prostitute?


I was waiting for that... :rolleyes:

until this last year i've always been too young to drink beer in the states (stupid law...)

sadly i no longer drink beer now that i am of age, heh :P

Yuengling, Sam Adams, Magic Hat.

Ah, yes, Magic Hat makes some good ones, too. :cool:

In my opinion there is no such thing as good beer .... domestic or foreign.

You! out! Ya barred!

In my opinion there is no such thing as good beer .... domestic or foreign.

Then why the hell did you feel the need to post in this thread? :rolleyes:

You have to get a microbrew to get a decent American beer.

Sam Adams makes a few decent ones, but I'd hardly call them a microbrew anymore.

You have to get a microbrew to get a decent American beer.


Ahhh selg brewing, if anybodys got any mead recipies to swap I got a great fizzy strawberry mead one.

In my opinion there is no such thing as good beer .... domestic or foreign.

You have to get a microbrew to get a decent American beer.

Well, generally I agree, american beer isn't generally very good. There are however guldkorns, and it would be nice to find them. I've found so many other great beers, thought it was time for the US to do its share of damage to my liver. :)

The US has a crappy mass-market, that makes up the bulk of our beer industry, but on a more regional to micro-scale we have hundreds and thousands of types of delicious beers available.

Everybody just thinks that the US only drinks Budweiser and Natty Light. We don't, some of us are more civilized than you give us credit for.

New Belgium, Gordon Biersch, Sierra Nevada and Sudwerk all make decent stuff.

I'm going to have to see if I can get my hands on some of Yuengling's beers over here, seeing as so many of you Americans claim it's good.

Are any of their beers considerably better than the rest, or should I just go for one that matches my own taste?
*wonders if he'll ever get an answer*

*wonders if he'll ever get an answer*

They've got a variety (http://www.yuengling.com/beers.htm). I prefer their porter myself.

They've got a variety (http://www.yuengling.com/beers.htm). I prefer their porter myself.
Erm, yeah, I saw that. I wanted to know which, if any, is clearly the best, or should I just choose according to my own taste?

In my opinion there is no such thing as good beer .... domestic or foreign.

Your loss. More for us, then. :)

*wonders if he'll ever get an answer*

I personally don't think all that much of Yuengling compared to most microbrews. It's OK, not great.

I personally don't think all that much of Yuengling compared to most microbrews. It's OK, not great.
Fair enough, but I'm far more likely to be able to get Yuengling over here than any microbrew.

Erm, yeah, I saw that. I wanted to know which, if any, is clearly the best, or should I just choose according to my own taste?

I'd go by taste. If you like lagers and ales, theirs are pretty damn good. If you like porters, though, theirs is excellent.

There's an awsome brewery in Maine called Alagash, and they make some of the very best Belgian style beer (my fave) that I've ever had. I'd call that the best american brewry outside the city I live in, Portland, OR, which is the beer capitol of the US ;)

Erm, yeah, I saw that. I wanted to know which, if any, is clearly the best, or should I just choose according to my own taste?

Try the Lager.

I have access to a very limited selection.

So far the best I've had is Sam Adams. Sad, I know.

In my opinion there is no such thing as good beer .... domestic or foreign.

I'm sorry that your life is devoid of the joy that is beer :(

Anyone tried this one (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dark-lord-russian-imperial-stout/15917/)? I stumbled across it on that site aaaaaaages ago, and not only was the design extremely cheesy (in a "I want one of those bottles!" way), it also sounds awesome. Doubt i'll ever have the pleasure of trying it, though.

Anyone tried this one (http://www.ratebeer.com/beer/three-floyds-dark-lord-russian-imperial-stout/15917/)? I stumbled across it on that site aaaaaaages ago, and not only was the design extremely cheesy (in a "I want one of those bottles!" way), it also sounds awesome. Doubt i'll ever have the pleasure of trying it, though.

I've had it once. It was pretty tasty, but it's a bitch to find.

Brooklyn Brewery-- Black Chocolate Stout modelled after imperial stout is very good. Samuel Adam's dark beer is also very good.

Your loss. More for us, then. :)



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Bottoms Up and enjoy, oh and here's a drinking buddy for you too

The imported kind.

Seriously, I like some microbrews, but I prefer hard alcohol.

until this last year i've always been too young to drink beer in the states (stupid law...)

sadly i no longer drink beer now that i am of age, heh :P

Nobody pays attention to that silly law. You just need someone over 21 to go into the store and buy it for you.

Hooray, a real beer drinker. You're right, French beer is shit as is their wine which they're having trouble selling now because of the global market.

It's a sad fact that the only American beers we get on this side of the pond are from the big branded names that have the money and marketing muscle. While I was in Boston, the pub across the street from the hotel did mostly European bottled beers, I wonder why???

Do you have "White Beer" in America?Yes, we have white beer. And you were across the street from a hotel, probably in Copley area, in which case, they're just catering to tourists. I'm willing to bet there were no Bostonians there...we are all out in Allston and down by Fenway

You are right, American beer tastes like ass, I can only take your word for it as I don't try ass. We use them for taking slow rides along the beach here while drinking tea and eating icecream. And the bar in Boston does an excellent trade in good imported European beer 'cos American beer tastes, like you say, ass.A) try not taking quotes out of context.
And they are catering to tourist tastes, not Bostons or Americas


Good US breweries: Magic Hat, Otter Creek/Wolavers, Long Trail, Sam Adams, River Horse, Harpoon

Good US breweries: Magic Hat, Otter Creek/Wolavers, Long Trail, Sam Adams, River Horse, Harpoon

You reminded me of Harpoon-Thanks!! I was trying to rememebr them-They have a really good India Pale Ale if I remember correctly?

You reminded me of Harpoon-Thanks!! I was trying to rememebr them-They have a really good India Pale Ale if I remember correctly?
yeah...I love their IPA. I just saw their brewery 2 days ago

Frankly, beer in general tastes like horse piss. Since I don't drink it, I'm not sure what's good and what isn't, but I know that relative new-comer Samuel Adams has a large variety of beers and lagers, and apparently has won quite a few awards.

On a side note, my mom's side of the family is German, so naturally they used to own a beer company lol. They sold out to Anheuser-Busch.

I'd go by taste. If you like lagers and ales, theirs are pretty damn good. If you like porters, though, theirs is excellent.
They didn't have any. Hadn't even heard of the brewery. :(

Though the guy said that Liberty Ale is the best beer he's ever tried - so I bought a bottle. It's ok, but best beer ever? Not a chance.

I'm not much of a drinker, but when my wife and I were exploring New England; a resturant in Mystic-CT made their own beer. It was nice. Not that I remember what it is--it's been years.

They didn't have any. Hadn't even heard of the brewery. :(

Though the guy said that Liberty Ale is the best beer he's ever tried - so I bought a bottle. It's ok, but best beer ever? Not a chance.

Well there are only 3 breweries around, and 2 of them are in PA, the other is in FL.

If you have nothing to contribute, why not just ignore this thread?

Because he wants his post count to go up.

Oh come on, Anchor Steam's great, and I'll have to try that Stone Russian Imperial Stout, sounds interesting, but there have gotta be other small brewing companies in the US... why is nobody speaking up? Does nobody from the US on NS General like any decent beer?

I would think a topic about beer would get more responses. You'd almost think NS General was a den of sobriety.

The Four Peaks Brewery here makes some very fine beers, especially anything they cask condition.

Every Thursday, they pop open a new cask, and pour forth beer both enormously delicious and completely unavailable outside their pub.

Nobody pays attention to that silly law. You just need someone over 21 to go into the store and buy it for you.


You are wrong, have you ever heard of a Government Agency by the name of " Fire Arms, Tobacco, & Alcohol? These people do pay close attention to that silly law as you call it, and they take it very serious.

I'm a Beck's drinker, myself, but since it's really a German beer brewed in the States (or in Germany, as the case may be), that doesn't really count that much.

Sam Adams is above average as far as American beers go.

You are wrong, have you ever heard of a Government Agency by the name of " Fire Arms, Tobacco, & Alcohol? These people do pay close attention to that silly law as you call it, and they take it very serious.

College life disagrees...