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Have you ever killed an animal?

The Silver Sky
15-03-2007, 01:48
Have you ever killed an animal? Just a general question.

Personally, I have, everyday I probably kill poor little buggies walking to school. I've also smashed bugs while driving. Oh, and once when I was 13 me and my friend were in his backyard and killed a little birdy with a one-shotter to the chest (I was the shooter, he hit but did not kill/seriously injure a squirrel).

So, who are the people who will forever burn in the pits of NS hell? >.>
Pepe Dominguez
15-03-2007, 01:52
Sure. Rats, gophers, possums, squirrels, etc.. the usual stuff.
IDF
15-03-2007, 01:53
I've gotten a squirrel driving. It isn't worth having a head on collision or going into the ditch to avoid one. That being said, I will avoid one if it doesn't bring danger unto myself or others.
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 01:58
Nothing larger than an insect, that I remember, and I tend to try and avoid that. I get quite upset with people when they squash spiders and things. No reason for it at all.

But then I support other activities that'll lead to animals dying, like, um, eating them.

And unless it's somebody I know and care about, I'm almost completely indifferent to human death and suffering. Six and a half billion where that came from, after all.

Funny that.
Nadkor
15-03-2007, 02:00
Yup a sheep. With a knife. Tasted very nice, too.
Kinda Sensible people
15-03-2007, 02:00
I regularly kill spiders (when I don't just run away and cower in a corner. I HATE spiders). I eat meat, which means I indirectly have killed a number of pigs, chickens, and cows. I drive a car, and so I am indirectly killing species who are not adapted to climate change.

So yes, I do, and so do the rest of us.
Ifreann
15-03-2007, 02:04
If fish or crustaceans count as animals, yes.
Central Ecotopia
15-03-2007, 02:05
Sure. Chickens, clams, fish, etc. I have no problem with killing an animal. Some must die so that others may live. That's how life works (unless you are a plant). There are a lot of people out there who would condemn me for killing animals, but they eat their hamburger just fine. That is NOT ok to me. Unless you have killed another animal, I think it is immoral to eat one. Only by the conscious realization - not just an intellectual knowledge - that your food came from the taking of another life do you have the right to eat. The sanitized meat industry blinds each of us to the experience of what life and death truly mean, and it is each person's responsibility to take the blinders off. It is your moral obligation to kill or be a vegetarian.
Ifreann
15-03-2007, 02:08
Sure. Chickens, clams, fish, etc. I have no problem with killing an animal. Some must die so that others may live. That's how life works (unless you are a plant). There are a lot of people out there who would condemn me for killing animals, but they eat their hamburger just fine. That is NOT ok to me. Unless you have killed another animal, I think it is immoral to eat one. Only by the conscious realization - not just an intellectual knowledge - that your food came from the taking of another life do you have the right to eat.
Why? And how is knowing that your meat used to be alive different from realising that your meat used to be alive?
The sanitized meat industry blinds each of us to the experience of what life and death truly mean,
:rolleyes:
and it is each person's responsibility to take the blinders off. It is your moral obligation to kill or be a vegetarian.

This really makes little sense.
The Psyker
15-03-2007, 02:08
Sure, bugs obviously, but also fish, normally for cooking, but when I was first learning how to fish I can remember one or two times I didn't get the fish off the hook fast enough ffor catch an release.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 02:09
Nothing larger than an insect, that I remember, and I tend to try and avoid that. Same here.

As for this part, though...: I get quite upset with people when they squash spiders and things. No reason for it at all.
... I'm more like this: I regularly kill spiders (when I don't just run away and cower in a corner. I HATE spiders).

I would say I'm sorry but I'm not. They're just... *shudders*. I don't go out of my way to kill them, like, I'm not seeking them out (what am I, crazy?) but if they think they have to come live in my apartment, well, they're not staying. I actually catch beetles and grasshoppers in a glass or something and put them outside but there is no way in hell I would ever willingly get that close to a fucking spider. Not fair for them but that's life when you're a species that has a whole own phobia dedicated to itself.
Novus-America
15-03-2007, 02:11
I accidentally ran over a turtle once and hit a deer as it ran across the road. The latter survived the impact, so my sister (who was with me at the time) called the local PD and sent an officer out to fill it. A 9mm round didn't sound as loud as I thought it would.
Greyenivol Colony
15-03-2007, 02:13
I kill insects whenever I can, because as far as I can determine their only purpose in this world is to annoy people, so I reckon I'm doing the world a favour.

I never kill spiders, because spiders eat insects *nods*

I would probably find the prospect of killing a vertebrate quite disturbing. But seeing as I am a fully fledged urbanite, I will probably never have to.
MrWho
15-03-2007, 02:16
I've killed bugs, but I don't care to step on them anymore because it's pointless and more importantly my shoes will get dirty.

I've killed fish when I've gone fishing. Actually the one time I caught a few fish, we were going to cook them but my mom threw them in the trash because she said they were dirty since I caught them from the pier.
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 02:16
I would say I'm sorry but I'm not. They're just... *shudders*. I don't go out of my way to kill them, like, I'm not seeking them out (what am I, crazy?) but if they think they have to come live in my apartment, well, they're not staying. I actually catch beetles and grasshoppers in a glass or something and put them outside but there is no way in hell I would ever willingly get that close to a fucking spider. Not fair for them but that's life when you're a species that has a whole own phobia dedicated to itself.

I like spiders. They're interesting, they're quiet, they leave me alone, they eat flies (which I find quite annoying when they buzz around me, and they're hardly hygenic). Nothing wrong with spiders. Although the ones in Britain aren't very deadly.

But the housefly thing does remind me that I'm not always so at peace with my insectoid brethren; if there are too many house-flies buzzing round, landing on food, etcetera then occasionally I'll get too wound up trying to shoo them away, snap, and go on a genocidal rampage. Oh well. Scratch one for pacifism.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 02:17
I kill spiders whenever I can, because as far as I can determine their only purpose in this world is to annoy people, so I reckon I'm doing the world a favour.

I never kill birds, because birds eat spiders *nods*
Fixed. :)
Ifreann
15-03-2007, 02:18
Also: In Soviet Russia, animals kill you!
Exomnia
15-03-2007, 02:19
I use to insist that everyone around me not kill even insects (I was like 6). Funny how people change...
MrMopar
15-03-2007, 02:19
I seriously try to avoid it.
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 02:19
Fixed. :)
:(

Also: In the plains of Africa, animals kill you!

Fixed!
Ifreann
15-03-2007, 02:21
:(



Fixed!

Mine was just as correct. Russia has wolves, and hungry wolves wouldn't mind snaking on your face.
Chandelier
15-03-2007, 02:25
The only animals I ever kill are bugs, and only when I feel I have to (like when they crawl all over my bed and it's too late to let them outside or something).
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 02:25
Mine was just as correct. Russia has wolves, and hungry wolves wouldn't mind snaking on your face.

Wolves have a very bad press. And snakes, although I didn't know Russia had many of them.

A bit Like sharks. Did you know coconuts are more dangerous than sharks? And yet there are no films about evil palm-trees wreaking bloody death on tourists, are there?
FRONDS: The Revenge - The truth will out!
Ifreann
15-03-2007, 02:32
Wolves have a very bad press. And snakes, although I didn't know Russia had many of them.

A bit Like sharks. Did you know coconuts are more dangerous than sharks? And yet there are no films about evil palm-trees wreaking bloody death on tourists, are there?
FRONDS: The Revenge - The truth will out!

Which is why I said hungry wolves.

And a lot of Russia would be too cold for nakes, but the might be able to survive down the south.
The Nazz
15-03-2007, 02:36
You can't live in the woods and not kill something accidentally--I've run over small animals before--raccoon, opossum, two dogs (and I tried to miss them both times), squirrels. Those roads are dark.

Fishing was a part of my childhood, and the rule was that you either ate it or threw it back if it wasn't big enough. And I helped slaughter a calf or two when I was a kid.
Smunkeeville
15-03-2007, 02:59
bugs, arachnids, mice, fish, chickens, rabbits.....I think that's about it.
Imperial isa
15-03-2007, 03:20
hunted Foxs and Rabbits
Shotagon
15-03-2007, 03:27
I used to live on a farm, and on occasion we, er, culled the herd.

Sheep, goats, and chickens. I never liked doing it though. Really nasty trying to wrench the entrails out with your hand. I was always for good reason though, so I don't feel bad about it; we made sure the animals didn't suffer.

edits; oh yeah, I've killed a few snakes that were kinda threatening. Cottonmouths mostly, with some Rattlesnakes. Yowch!
Antikythera
15-03-2007, 03:29
chickens a rabbit a fox that was attacking my chickens and a few birds
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 03:40
And a lot of Russia would be too cold for nakes, but the might be able to survive down the south.:eek: Maybe they should have thought of putting on some clothes against the cold, then. :rolleyes:
Mirkai
15-03-2007, 03:59
Nah, not directly. I've gotten pretty vicious disciplining my cat before, but never severely hurt it.

I'm also astonished at the amount of people that held livestock but now post on NS. Rurality meets the internet. :D
The Nazz
15-03-2007, 04:04
I'm also astonished at the amount of people that held livestock but now post on NS. Rurality meets the internet. :D
Yeah, once we clean the shit from between our toes, we do all right. ;)
Mirkai
15-03-2007, 04:07
We can't let you city folk just talk to yourselves all day, that'd be boring. :D

Naw, I'm more crazy folk than city folk.
Shotagon
15-03-2007, 04:09
I'm also astonished at the amount of people that held livestock but now post on NS. Rurality meets the internet. :DWe can't let you city folk just talk to yourselves all day, that'd be boring. :D
Hoyteca
15-03-2007, 04:23
Nothing but ants, spiders, roaches, etc.

Was asked to fox hunt once. Declined because killing it in the end is too anti-climatic. You spend hours and hours chasing it and it ends with a simple bullet. That's all. All that for an insignificant kill. No exploding bodies engaged in ever-lasting lightsaber duels. Just a kill.
Daistallia 2104
15-03-2007, 04:34
Have you ever killed an animal? Just a general question.

Ducks, geese, chickens, quail, deer, one squirrel, one snake, fish, crabs, lobsters, various shellfish, one goat, various insects, and others I can't recall...

So, who are the people who will forever burn in the pits of NS hell? >.>

The hypocrites who make use of animal products but condemn the killing.

If fish or crustaceans count as animals, yes.

And why would they somehow be excluded from kingdom Animalia?

This really makes little sense.

Makes fine sense to me.

I like spiders. They're interesting, they're quiet, they leave me alone, they eat flies (which I find quite annoying when they buzz around me, and they're hardly hygenic). Nothing wrong with spiders. Although the ones in Britain aren't very deadly.

Agreed.

Also: In Soviet Russia, animals kill you!

Usually that stupid, putrid meme works through a nonsense juxtaposition... ;)

Mine was just as correct. Russia has wolves, and hungry wolves wouldn't mind snaking on your face.

There are lots of other dangerous animal in Russia as well (including tigers and of course bears).

Wolves have a very bad press. And snakes, although I didn't know Russia had many of them.

Indeed they do get bad press.

I'm also astonished at the amount of people that held livestock but now post on NS. Rurality meets the internet. :D

Actually in my family's case, it went the other way. (Grandpa Dai grew up the son of a Texas share-cropper cotton farmer, but got off the farm. It only took two genertations before somebody - my little bro - went back to farming...)
Whereyouthinkyougoing
15-03-2007, 04:45
Nah, not directly. I've gotten pretty vicious disciplining my cat before, but never severely hurt it.Whoa, are you serious? o_O
Fozish
15-03-2007, 04:47
If you eat it....

I'm not into trophy hunting or anything, but I do use animals for food. If you eat meat or wear leather, you don't have a leg to stand on.

Or maybe you do.....like a turkey leg....or a chicken leg....mmmmm!

By the way...for all you PETA supporters out there....you're supporting terrorism, you scumbags!

One more thing PETA people, stop taking every medicine you may take, if you're a diabetic....stop your insulin and medication and die. It all came from animal testing.

Better yet, let's throw all carnivores on earth into prison. "Sorry, Mr. Lion, you're going to prison.......you can't eat a Zebra!

and.......my organization......PETP....(People for the Ethical Treatment of Plants).......would like you to stop killing innocent life such as plants. I know you think it's food, but....come on....it's biotic!
Potarius
15-03-2007, 04:48
I no longer kill ants (I flick them away if they get on me), as they're pretty helpful, even if they are living in my walls.

I kill roaches and spiders, because 1) roaches carry diseases, and 2) spiders can do serious damage if they bite you (I do, however, let the smaller, harmless ones live).
Soheran
15-03-2007, 04:51
I've slaughtered countless insects, but I've never killed anything much larger.
Poliwanacraca
15-03-2007, 04:55
I've often killed mosquitos and ticks, obviously, but I don't deliberately kill any other animals. As far as I'm concerned, if it's not trying to hurt me (or someone else), I see no reason to try to hurt it.
Grandiostan
15-03-2007, 04:57
First off, im a vegetarian. But i'd like to make the point that farming indirectly kills a huge quantity of animals too. Some of them live in the fields and get picked off when their cover is harvested. And there's the fact that you have to clear forest and other habitats to make room for the corn fields.
Southeastasia
15-03-2007, 10:25
Bugs yes by accident, and I've had fish, but not by accident, though indirectly, as I didn't have time to feed my koi at my old house when I moved to my current place thanks to personal issues...sigh. :(
Heretichia
15-03-2007, 10:27
Excluding pre-packed meat and insects I've swatted or stepped on by accident, I've only killed a hare once. It had been hit by a car and lay twitching, so i snapped its neck. Mercykill I guess...
Anthil
15-03-2007, 10:31
Compassion for all life, human and non-human, is central to Jainism.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jainism
Callisdrun
15-03-2007, 10:40
Just invertabrates.
German Nightmare
15-03-2007, 10:48
Mostly insects that bugged me. And I believe I killed a frog while driving once.

Nothing bigger, though.
Helioterra
15-03-2007, 10:57
You can't live in the woods and not kill something accidentally--I've run over small animals before--raccoon, opossum, two dogs (and I tried to miss them both times), squirrels. Those roads are dark.

Fishing was a part of my childhood, and the rule was that you either ate it or threw it back if it wasn't big enough. And I helped slaughter a calf or two when I was a kid.

I sometimes wonder if people run over small animals on purpose I don't mean you). I've run over few snakes and a bird but that's it. I've seen several suicidal dogs, cats, foxes etc (and way too many murderous elks) but the only mammal I've ever killed was a squirrel which was hit (but not killed) by a car. I crashed its skull with an axe to end its pain.

Don't ask me why I had an axe in my car... :D
Carisbrooke
15-03-2007, 10:59
yes.
Cabra West
15-03-2007, 11:08
I killed chicken and rabbits on the farm of my aunt and uncle, and I helped killing two pigs once.
What's the big deal? If you can't kill them, you shouldn't eat them either.
Risottia
15-03-2007, 11:09
Yes, willingly.
Mostly insects and spiders. Some fishes, decapodes (crabs) and octopodes also. And about half a dozen vipers.
I was really tempted of killing a boar (yummy!) that I ran into last summer, but the only weapon I had was a swiss knife, and I'm not really into strangling boars with bare hands.

I forgot: jellyfishes, some scorpions. And a lot of snails, I used to catch them, keep them for some days in a very clean basin, feed them with lettuce, then mince them into a snail ragout and dressing pasta with it.
China Phenomenon
15-03-2007, 11:12
When I was a kid, my father took me fishing all the time. I also had a butterfly collection.

So yes, I've killed literally thousands of animals.
Fattyboland
15-03-2007, 11:16
Are Ants and Small Insects included

I HATE SPIDERS KILL THEM ALL :sniper:

Im pretty sure a sniper wouldnt be the most effective way though :p

Bug Spray >>>>> :gundge:
Mogtaria
15-03-2007, 11:20
Here are my sins for laid out for all to see:

.22 Air rifle - Small Bird when I was about 12

Slingshot - just took a potshot at a pigeon on a power cable about 30 feet away, never thought I'd hit it.

22mm Wrench - Yes, a wrench. There was a rat in the chicken feed at my parents and I was working on my bike in the barn. I saw the rat just sit there about 15 feet from me and I lobbed the wrench at it. Again, never thought I'd hit it but I caught it square between the eyes. Squelch!

The above Bike - My VFR750FH. Had my Girl on the back and was taking her home at night. Silly rabbit at the side of the road decided to cross just as I passed it and it ran under the back wheel. Felt like running over a cardboard drink carton, complete with the Pop. Girlfriend hit me in the kidneys for that - had words with her - 1) There was NOTHING I could do about it 2) It's not a good idea to cause your boyfriend pain while youre doing 40mph on the back of his motorcycle. :)

millions of bugs - Riding through the north wales hills by the lakes around Nant Gwynant, doing just under 100mph and hit a cloud of bugs by the side of the lake.. Had my visor open too (yuck - tastes like almonds).

Most memorable bug - Bumble Bee in the visor at 125mph.. its like being hit with a rock but with a strong aftersmell of honey and a big yellow smear.

Oh and I kill wasps on sight without a second thought.
Bolol
15-03-2007, 11:58
I was heading over to a friends house. Now, y'see he has a neighbor with a circus freak of a dog...I think it's a combination of a Doberman and a Poodle...who is ultra-agressive and barks at everything, and attacks everything if he has the opportunity.

Anyway, I was driving towards his house, when I found that this little bastard was out and about, which he usually isn't. He saw my car, started barking...and then RAN right towards my still-moving tires...Luckily I stopped quickly enough, but it took a solid 30 seconds of beeping the horn to get the TINY pea-brained beast out of the way.

I have not killed an animal, and I hope I never do.





















...But God, I hate that dog...
Cameroi
15-03-2007, 12:03
i don't recall if i ever succeeded or not, other then fish. fish are an animal arn't they? at any rate, "you kill it you eat it". and that was my sole intention.

=^^=
.../\...
Boonytopia
15-03-2007, 12:10
Yes, and eaten them.
Rhursbourg
15-03-2007, 12:12
only Rabbits, pidgeons, pheasants, troat, eels, hares, Partridge and duck
The Mindset
15-03-2007, 12:13
I used to go hunting with my granddad before he died. I've shot quite a few game animals, as well as killed some chickens etc.
Lunatic Goofballs
15-03-2007, 12:43
Not only have I killed an animal, but I've also killed a vegetable and a mineral. :)
Lunatic Goofballs
15-03-2007, 12:44
What talent! What immorality! What aplomb!

:cool:
JobbiNooner
15-03-2007, 12:45
Have you ever killed an animal?

Yeah. Then I ate it.
Eve Online
15-03-2007, 12:47
Not only have I killed an animal, but I've also killed a vegetable and a mineral. :)

What talent! What immorality! What aplomb!
Bottle
15-03-2007, 12:53
Have you ever killed an animal? Just a general question.

Personally, I have, everyday I probably kill poor little buggies walking to school. I've also smashed bugs while driving. Oh, and once when I was 13 me and my friend were in his backyard and killed a little birdy with a one-shotter to the chest (I was the shooter, he hit but did not kill/seriously injure a squirrel).

So, who are the people who will forever burn in the pits of NS hell? >.>
I use animals in my research, so I have killed a great many of them. The first animal I killed was a mud puppy (a kind of salamander). I have killed mice and rats, and I am currently using chickens for my thesis project. I will be killing at least two embryonic chickens today.
Eve Online
15-03-2007, 13:11
I use animals in my research, so I have killed a great many of them. The first animal I killed was a mud puppy (a kind of salamander). I have killed mice and rats, and I am currently using chickens for my thesis project. I will be killing at least two embryonic chickens today.

When I was in college, I used to kill rats and rabbits in the lab with an injection of air. Instant embolism.

Mice went directly, and alive, into an ultrasonic liquifier.
Pompous world
15-03-2007, 13:12
I cut up a worm with an axe to see if the parts would still live. It did strangely enough, wriggling about. Didnt do it again though. I do have a hatred of flies and kill those regurlarly enough. A lot of worms were killed in experiments where I would put them in habitats made of sand. I also dunked them in water, they died quickest in those situations. I also wiped out an entire ant colony.
I V Stalin
15-03-2007, 13:17
I probably have, but it would only have been by accident, and I'm unlikely to have noticed. I just don't see the point in killing things. Even if a fly is seriously pissing me off (and refusing to fly out of the open window), I still wouldn't kill it. Rather unfair if you ask me.
Bottle
15-03-2007, 13:26
When I was in college, I used to kill rats and rabbits in the lab with an injection of air. Instant embolism.

Mice went directly, and alive, into an ultrasonic liquifier.
I sacrifice rodents by decapitation. The mice I was working with were newborns, so they could be decapitated with scissors, but the rats were juveniles and adults so we had to use the guillotine.

I still don't like killing animals, and I've been doing it for years. I don't personally understand the appeal of hunting live animals, though I do understand the fun of a moving target; I just don't like the little twist I get in my stomach when I kill something. I will kill animals when I believe it is necessary, but I certainly don't enjoy doing it.
Eve Online
15-03-2007, 13:37
I sacrifice rodents by decapitation. The mice I was working with were newborns, so they could be decapitated with scissors, but the rats were juveniles and adults so we had to use the guillotine.

I still don't like killing animals, and I've been doing it for years. I don't personally understand the appeal of hunting live animals, though I do understand the fun of a moving target; I just don't like the little twist I get in my stomach when I kill something. I will kill animals when I believe it is necessary, but I certainly don't enjoy doing it.

If I'm hunting, I only shoot what I'm going to eat. And I get as close as possible, so I can make the shot as quickly lethal as possible.

I've met more than a few hunters who will shoot at anything that moves, no matter how far away, and who have wounded far more deer than they've ever brought home. It's not as simple as people think to kill deer with a rifle - and some hunters just don't seem to give a shit.

I've often thought that the US should adopt the German system, where you have to hunt with a guide. And if you wound more than a few animals and they get away, you should have your hunting license revoked.
Arrkendommer
15-03-2007, 13:43
Did you know coconuts are more dangerous than sharks? And yet there are no films about evil palm-trees wreaking bloody death on tourists, are there?
FRONDS: The Revenge - The truth will out!

Sigged!
Great Konoha
15-03-2007, 13:46
I've killed bugs and flies, ofcourse.

And a few spiders that have dared to enter my personal space, but mostly I'll let someone else get them for me (spider phobia).

And it's quite impossible to not step on an ant or two when walking in the forest.


I've often thought that the US should adopt the German system, where you have to hunt with a guide. And if you wound more than a few animals and they get away, you should have your hunting license revoked.
That makes much more sense than the attitude most hunters are having right now.
Let's hope that will be the rule worldwide.
Because not only do the animals get injured in vain, but it's far too common for humans and horses to get shot by hunters. Having a guide tell you the difference between a human and a moose could save many people tears and grief.
And ofcourse, shooting at animals just because it's fun (not killing because you're going to eat) should be banned and severely punishable.
Wallonochia
15-03-2007, 13:48
I grew up on a farm, to a very poor farming family so I've killed a number of animals. In the summer I'd hunt squirrel and rabbit, and in the fall I'd hunt deer and turkey. It's a lot cheaper to buy the ammo to hunt with than to buy meat at the grocery store. There were times when we'd have to kill one of our cows, often due to a bad hunting season, but my stepfather would generally do that.

I haven't killed an animal in quite a while. In fact, I rarely see animals in my town, except for squirrels and the damned dogs that the French seem to love to much.
Compulsive Depression
15-03-2007, 14:03
Sigged!

Wow, I got sigged!
Thanks :D
Dododecapod
15-03-2007, 14:29
I've killed (and bled) sheep on my uncle's station, ditto chickens. Also, shot antelope, Kangaroo (only thing I ever shot that I didn't eat - wild 'roo isn't safe, they have a nasty parasite that can infect and kill humans) and deer.

Oh, and a bird-eating spider, which I clubbed with a starpeg. Delicious.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 15:40
yes
Drunk commies deleted
15-03-2007, 15:53
Yeah, a couple of rabbits and a shitload of fish.
Daistallia 2104
15-03-2007, 16:18
Are Ants and Small Insects included
fish are an animal arn't they?

Both of you are hearby remanded to an elementary school biology class, in which you will be introduced to such simple concepts as distinctions between different taxanomic kingdoms. (ie Darwin damnit! Are you people really so ignorant as to not know that ants, small insects, and fish are animals? WTF did you think they were? Plants?)

I don't personally understand the appeal of hunting live animals, though I do understand the fun of a moving target; I just don't like the little twist I get in my stomach when I kill something. I will kill animals when I believe it is necessary, but I certainly don't enjoy doing it.

When I was a kid, it was very exciting, but the excitement had much more to do with spending one-on-one special time with my dad, in the outdoors.

As an adult, for me personally, the actual act of killing is simply a very sober moment of business, that's part of an otherwise quite pleasant undertaking.

If I'm hunting, I only shoot what I'm going to eat. And I get as close as possible, so I can make the shot as quickly lethal as possible.

I've met more than a few hunters who will shoot at anything that moves, no matter how far away, and who have wounded far more deer than they've ever brought home. It's not as simple as people think to kill deer with a rifle - and some hunters just don't seem to give a shit.

I've often thought that the US should adopt the German system, where you have to hunt with a guide. And if you wound more than a few animals and they get away, you should have your hunting license revoked.

I was brought up in the "you kill it, you eat it, period" school as well, but to the point of being shocked when I first encountered the idea of varmit shooting.
Neesika
15-03-2007, 16:21
I hunt, and have since I was a kid. I also on occasion trap, usually rabbits or grouse (snare). And of course I fish. My parents raised various edible animals over the years, and I was involved in the killing and cleaning.

But I have never, not once, killed an animal for reasons other than eating them, or protecting myself or the animals we kept. I have an absolute loathing for trophy hunters, or idiots who shoot birds and other small animals just for the hell of it. I have the utmost respect for the animals that feed and clothe us, and when I hunt, I do so with that respect always at the forefront.
Misterymeat
15-03-2007, 16:21
Lots of fish and shellfish. I was the scourge of the atlantic ocean as a kid.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 16:27
I hunt, and have since I was a kid. I also on occasion trap, usually rabbits or grouse (snare). And of course I fish. My parents raised various edible animals over the years, and I was involved in the killing and cleaning.

But I have never, not once, killed an animal for reasons other than eating them, or protecting myself or the animals we kept. I have an absolute loathing for trophy hunters, or idiots who shoot birds and other small animals just for the hell of it. I have the utmost respect for the animals that feed and clothe us, and when I hunt, I do so with that respect always at the forefront.


yeah-you use the antlers as fake buck-teeth.
Neesika
15-03-2007, 16:32
yeah-you use the antlers as fake buck-teeth.
Actually buttons. They make really beautiful buttons. I give them to my auntie to cut, and distribute amongst the family.

There are no 'trophies' in my house. What useless ornaments.

Also, on occasion deer bones are requested for bone chokers/jewelry.
Neesika
15-03-2007, 16:51
What...no retort, Carn?

Low energy today?
Daistallia 2104
15-03-2007, 16:52
I hunt, and have since I was a kid. I also on occasion trap, usually rabbits or grouse (snare). And of course I fish. My parents raised various edible animals over the years, and I was involved in the killing and cleaning.

But I have never, not once, killed an animal for reasons other than eating them, or protecting myself or the animals we kept. I have an absolute loathing for trophy hunters, or idiots who shoot birds and other small animals just for the hell of it. I have the utmost respect for the animals that feed and clothe us, and when I hunt, I do so with that respect always at the forefront.

Ditto. The one time I came anywhere near that sort of slaughter was when my uncle offered to take me rabbit hunting. We got all the way out into the desert when he told me that it was varmit shooting, not hunting. I put the rifle down, walked back to the car, and have never been "hunting" with him again. :(

There are no 'trophies' in my house. What useless ornaments.

Also, on occasion deer bones are requested for bone chokers/jewelry.

No trophys but "jewelry"'s OK? :(
Neesika
15-03-2007, 17:10
No trophys but "jewelry"'s OK? :(
They are functional uses.

Would you argue that turning hide into clothing is the same as keeping trophy antlers?

I don't actually have an issue with people keeping antlers/heads/whatever if that's the kind of decor they like PROVIDED that the 'trophy' was not the central purpose of killing the animal.
Nimzonia
15-03-2007, 17:23
Well, bugs, obviously.

Also, quite recently, a mouse. Little bastard had been tormenting me for a while, but I had the last laugh. I caught him in one of those humane trap things. I think the idea of them is that you let the mouse go, but I preferred to drown him instead.
Gift-of-god
15-03-2007, 17:32
I killed a rat who had cancer, a bat with a broken and torn wing, and a pigeon with a broken wing. I do not eat mammals or birds, so that is as close as I get to that.

I have also boiled a lobster alive, and brained a northern pike with a rock. I eat seafood.

And when I was a child, I used to eat bugs.
Isidoor
15-03-2007, 17:42
i've killed some bugs on purpose.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 17:43
What...no retort, Carn?

Low energy today?

Horn buttons are beautiful and a responsible way to use the horns/antlers.

I dont like trophies much either. The argument to hunt is often to "thin the herd" and weed out the week, but no one looks for the shrivled sick ones to shoot-you're looking for 6 pt bucks.

So-if you hunt, dont shoot unless you actually have a shot. I have seen deer shot through the leg,compund fracture,running away,shot again through the gut and then finally in the spine. Then hear how the meat is no good now.

To me,thats a disgrace and irresponsible. If you hunt/kill,you have a responsibilty to kill cleanly. Not mutilate.
And dont leave the caped carcass laying beside a stream,scumbags.
Neesika
15-03-2007, 17:46
*snip*I agree completely.
Good Lifes
15-03-2007, 18:10
Lots for lots of reasons.

The hardest is when people dump "pets" in the country and I have to do their dirty work for them. Perfect pets that look up with their brown eyes just before a bullet enters their brain.
Bubabalu
15-03-2007, 18:27
Besides the bugs, like everyone else...

I have killed deer, rabbit, quail, chicken, cow, pig, trout, various types of bass and other types of fish. And yes, there was a special place for all of those animals I have killed----right next to the potatoes and corn on my plate.

But on a serious note. I grew up on a farm, so I had to learn to kill and butcher the animals for food. I am really glad that I grew up like that, since even tho I still actively hunt, I will not hunt or fish for sport.

Many are the fishing trips that I will let the fish off the hook and throw them back, just because I wanted to go fishing and had a freezer full of fish. Same with hunting. Lots of times, I go off into the woods and track a deer but do not shoot, because I have plenty of meat at home. I do not kill for the sport, but for the food.

Sometimes, we will have a "special" hunting or fishing trip, for the purpose of giving all the game to the homeless shelter. I have yet to have them turn us down, specially when they see that truck from the butcher shop backing up with deer and fish that we have caught for them. So, even tho it is not for my use, I will kill it to feed others.

Vic
Neesika
15-03-2007, 18:32
you better,with your filthy designer loin-cloth.
And horn-button bra:eek:
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 18:34
I agree completely.

you better,with your filthy designer loin-cloth.
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 18:37
And horn-button bra:eek:

there's no way you wear a bra.

I dont wear underwear and I'm not even a savage.
Mirkai
15-03-2007, 19:41
Whoa, are you serious? o_O

Well, I eat meat; when I say "not directly", I mean I haven't shot or squished or run over or stabbed an animal.

If the "are you serious" is referring to my cat, well, she deserved that impromptu bathing session in the bathroom sink. She never did pee on my stuff again after that. xD
Tyler VanStone
15-03-2007, 20:13
I have killed alot of animals. When i get pissed off I grab my Winchester 308 and shoot whatever animal i can find.
I would say i've kiled well over 400 assorted animals from deer to buzzards.

great stress relief


thought i'm running outa wildlife

I do not eat my victims
Utracia
15-03-2007, 20:32
I've only purposefully killed insects. I accidently killed a couple of toads though. Found them under a piece of wood took them out, played with them a bit then put them back... and rolled the log back on top of them... turned out I shouldn't have done that...
Neesika
15-03-2007, 20:33
there's no way you wear a bra.

I dont wear underwear and I'm not even a savage.

It's more fun to flash someone a glimpse of your bra, than of your bare tit. Only reason I bother, really :p
Pure Metal
15-03-2007, 20:40
i killed a rat/mouse once.

felt pretty bad about it :(
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 20:42
It's more fun to flash someone a glimpse of your bra, than of your bare tit. Only reason I bother, really :p

Are you trying to get a rise out of me?
Ultraviolent Radiation
15-03-2007, 20:43
Yeah, things like flies. Not spiders though. Spiders eat flies and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.
Neesika
15-03-2007, 20:45
I have killed alot of animals. When i get pissed off I grab my Winchester 308 and shoot whatever animal i can find.
I would say i've kiled well over 400 assorted animals from deer to buzzards.

great stress relief


thought i'm running outa wildlife

I do not eat my victims

This, if true, would make you a giant sack of shit.
Neesika
15-03-2007, 20:46
Are you trying to get a rise out of me?

Unleash the beast. I need a good gnawing.
Tyler VanStone
15-03-2007, 20:54
I'm soon be hunting Humans.......bundy n berkowitz got nothing on me
Carnivorous Lickers
15-03-2007, 20:55
I have killed alot of animals. When i get pissed off I grab my Winchester 308 and shoot whatever animal i can find.
I would say i've kiled well over 400 assorted animals from deer to buzzards.

great stress relief


thought i'm running outa wildlife

I do not eat my victims

I agree that you have problems. And I cringe when I think of you firing a .308 at buzzards.

Stray bullets concern me. As does relieving stress by shooting at things.
Tyler VanStone
15-03-2007, 20:58
I also have a 20 gauge 16 gauge 410 ithica 12 gauge there my bird guns
JuNii
15-03-2007, 22:25
I ran over a pigeon once. I thought it was going to fly away... and it did... right into my grill. :(
Big Jim P
15-03-2007, 22:56
Yes.
Uncle Jalapeno
16-03-2007, 00:28
I've killed bugs on purpose as a kid, I try not to now. I kill horseflies if they bite me but if it doesnt' bother me, I don't bother it. I haven't killed any birds or mammals other than the time I hit a rabbit by accident with my car. I've killed a few fish when i was younger.
Sel Appa
16-03-2007, 02:32
Other than a few ants, I don't kill much on purpose.
Aryavartha
16-03-2007, 02:36
Dozens of chicken...I used to chase them and catch them and hold their legs and smash the neck on my forearm and kill them, then I skin it by removing the feathers and applying turmeric for spicing and then cut it open and remove the food pipe and other "undesirables" ;) and cut it into small pieces for my mom to cook.

Once I killed a goat which jumped in front of my jeep. Then I had to buy it for 300 rupees (7 dollars) and then took it home and cooked and ate it. :eek:

Those days are long gone since I am a staunch vegetarian now. :p
New Crom
16-03-2007, 02:54
I have killed many.
Deer, cattle, sheep, wild pig, goat etc.
In fact I only have 2 more things that I can legally shoot in this country ( New Zealand) plus have caught most freshwater fish here and a lot of ocean going fish too.
I eat all I kill, with the exception of pests like rats, mice, rabbits, hares, opossums and the like.
I am the master of the kill.:sniper:
GreaterPacificNations
16-03-2007, 05:47
Yes many many times in my childhood, hunting rabbits, foxes, goats, pigs, and deer. Also intermittently since then (a pidgeon at boarding school, rats and mice with a cricket bat at a previous home, that annoying kid next door with carbon monoxide, insects constantly- especially moths). Actually on the moth note, I have a near phobia of them, and as such, prior to the time of my girlfriend I used to have moth carcasses hanging from all of the windows and ledges in the house so as to 'warn' the other moths of thier impending fate should they enter (not unlike the town gallows outside the city gates in medieval times. Anyhow, I have a very creative/efficient/environment friendly way of killing them. I get a wire coat hanger and wave it left-right as fast as I can, creating a moving wall of wire. then I move the said wall into their abberant flightpath, cutting them up mid flight. The wings scatter everywhere aroundthem whilst their thorax gets divided a few times then catapulted against a nearby wall. It is truly spectacular. Especially when you wear a ninja mask.
Daistallia 2104
16-03-2007, 06:09
They are functional uses.

Come to think of it, the little "jewelry" I do have (if you include spiked wrist bracelets as jewely) often has leather, so yeah.

Would you argue that turning hide into clothing is the same as keeping trophy antlers?

Not quite the same - much better. :)

I don't actually have an issue with people keeping antlers/heads/whatever if that's the kind of decor they like PROVIDED that the 'trophy' was not the central purpose of killing the animal.

I wouldn't do it, but if indeed that's the case, I guess it's OK.

Horn buttons are beautiful and a responsible way to use the horns/antlers.

I dont like trophies much either. The argument to hunt is often to "thin the herd" and weed out the week, but no one looks for the shrivled sick ones to shoot-you're looking for 6 pt bucks.

So-if you hunt, dont shoot unless you actually have a shot. I have seen deer shot through the leg,compund fracture,running away,shot again through the gut and then finally in the spine. Then hear how the meat is no good now.

To me,thats a disgrace and irresponsible. If you hunt/kill,you have a responsibilty to kill cleanly. Not mutilate.
And dont leave the caped carcass laying beside a stream,scumbags.

Amen.

Sometimes, we will have a "special" hunting or fishing trip, for the purpose of giving all the game to the homeless shelter. I have yet to have them turn us down, specially when they see that truck from the butcher shop backing up with deer and fish that we have caught for them. So, even tho it is not for my use, I will kill it to feed others.

Vic

Good man.

This, if true, would make you a giant sack of shit.

Indeed.
Kanabia
16-03-2007, 06:17
I haven't. But then, i'm not counting insects.

I'm not morally opposed to killing animals for the sake of food, though.

EDIT - oh...I like fishing too, and i've killed fish and crustaceans. Guess I voted wrongly.
The South Islands
16-03-2007, 06:19
Yeah, I hunt. 4 bucks in 10 years. Last years was especially delicious.
Joona
16-03-2007, 06:40
Are you insane? Don't you have any idea how much mosquitoes and biting flies the Finnish summer has? http://irc-galleria.net/view.php?nick=_pulu_&image_id=39600466

And of course I have fished. A lot.

The only time I felt actually bad for killing an animal was when there was a fieldfare that had broken its wing hitting the summer cottage window. I had to kill it to end it's suffering. I cried for the whole day. We made a little grave for it with the children, and although we are not not religious, kids made a little cross for it and brought flowers and stuff.

So I guess I am not entirely a bad man. ;)

Joona
Wallonochia
16-03-2007, 11:49
I'm soon be hunting Humans.......bundy n berkowitz got nothing on me

http://youtube.com/watch?v=Q-omycOj-nU
Daistallia 2104
16-03-2007, 16:26
So I guess I am not entirely a bad man. ;)

Joona

I'd say you sound like a good person...
The State of It
16-03-2007, 17:31
I would say don't kill an animal unless it's a matter of survival. (As in you are in lack of food and need to eat or it's a matter of life or death.)

If you eat an animal for food, make every use you can of the carcass, eat as much as you can, and store the rest for the future. You can use the rest of the carcass for various things, otherwise it's a waste of animal materials and life.

People who kill animals for fun obviously have something devoid in their lives to destroy others for no good reason. Quite twisted really.

Like Foxhunters. To enjoy hunting an animal and watching it ripped apart by dogs in a slow lingering death.

That is just fulfilling a desire to kill for fun, and to watch something die horribly.

There's something wrong there. Some dark place a person needs to feed, and that desire will only grow and grow.

Perverse.