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Doesn't anyone think when they design or mandate this sort of thing?

I believe the idea is "Let's not get sued".

I took my wife in a couple of weeks ago for some surgery (torn rotator cuff and torn bicep tendon), and I noticed the signage in the hospital.

Next to the door to the operating room was a sign in Braille.

Patients coming to that door are doped up before they get there (and are wheeled in), and nurses and doctors theoretically can't be blind and do their job.

So, when I went back to work a few days later, I took my lunch, and after eating, I went to the National Gallery of Art.

Wow - braille information panels for the blind. Sure, you can read about the art in each room, but it's not like they let you touch the paintings.

Doesn't anyone think when they design or mandate this sort of thing?

I've heard some Drive Thru ATMs have Braille! Though, with some of the driving I've seen, maybe they're not as useless as I thought. :eek:

Legally blind doesn't mean total blind.

I've heard some Drive Thru ATMs have Braille! Though, with some of the driving I've seen, maybe they're not as useless as I thought. :eek:

Well, a blind person probably takes a cab. But unless it's a talking ATM (and there are a few), it's not like rubbing the screen will tell you what your balance is.

I took my wife in a couple of weeks ago for some surgery (torn rotator cuff and torn bicep tendon), and I noticed the signage in the hospital.

Next to the door to the operating room was a sign in Braille.

Patients coming to that door are doped up before they get there (and are wheeled in), and nurses and doctors theoretically can't be blind and do their job.

So, when I went back to work a few days later, I took my lunch, and after eating, I went to the National Gallery of Art.

Wow - braille information panels for the blind. Sure, you can read about the art in each room, but it's not like they let you touch the paintings.

Doesn't anyone think when they design or mandate this sort of thing?

It's generally helpful if a blind guy doesn't walk into an operating room whilst looking for the nearest can.

I'm legally blind in my right eye, even with glasses my vision sucks on that side, without them it's pretty much a multi-color blur.

So, when I went back to work a few days later, I took my lunch, and after eating, I went to the National Gallery of Art.

Wow - braille information panels for the blind. Sure, you can read about the art in each room, but it's not like they let you touch the paintings.

Ahh, but you'd be surprised what some art museums have come up with to make visual art accessible to the blind. I know I've read articles about it.

http://www.canada.com/topics/entertainment/story.html?id=8af9b17a-ef49-44e4-9ebd-3200b8867f5d&k=43503

Pretty damn cool, if you ask me, and I hope this catches on in more museums. :)

As for the drive-through ATMs, the explanation I've heard about that is that the parts for ATMs are standardized before they even roll off the assembly line, so it doesn't matter if an ATM is going to be a walk-up or drive up; they'll be the same no matter what. Some cost-saving measure on part of the factories, I guess, to not have to have separate assembly lines or to have to retool the one they have all the time.

I do have to wonder though, why do they close caption music videos?

I do have to wonder though, why do they close caption music videos?

Like was said, for hearing people in loud bars and the like. But perhaps it could also be useful in karaoke competitions? ;)

Well, a blind person probably takes a cab. But unless it's a talking ATM (and there are a few), it's not like rubbing the screen will tell you what your balance is.

Drive-up ATM buttons are marked with braille because federal regulations require it. To be specific, section 4.34.4 of the ADA Accessibility Guidelines for Buildings and Facilities (Appendix to Part 1191, 36 CFR Chapter XI, issued pursuant to the Americans with Disabilities Act of 1990) says, "Instructions and all information for use [of an automated teller machine] shall be made accessible to and independently usable by persons with vision impairments." Drive-up ATMs, unlike the walk-up variety, don't need to be wheelchair accessible, but the rules make no exception regarding accessibility by the blind.

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_010.html

Another possible reason is that since the manufacturers of the ATMs are legally required to put braille on 99.99999% of their machines, it may not be cost-effective to re-tool an assembly line for the other 0.000001%.

I do have to wonder though, why do they close caption music videos?

I get the impression that captioning is used more in loud clubs and bars than by the actual deaf.

It's generally helpful if a blind guy doesn't walk into an operating room whilst looking for the nearest can.

I'm legally blind in my right eye, even with glasses my vision sucks on that side, without them it's pretty much a multi-color blur.

It would also help blind people navigate through the hospital more easily, as they would not be able to read the signs posted above everyone's heads.

I do have to wonder though, why do they close caption music videos?

for people like me who have trouble understanding some of the words? the closed captioning is on all the time at my house, otherwise I miss things. I would suppose it was all that time I spent really really close to the really big speakers in my youth that damaged my hearing.

for people like me who have trouble understanding some of the words? the closed captioning is on all the time at my house, otherwise I miss things. I would suppose it was all that time I spent really really close to the really big speakers in my youth that damaged my hearing.

Yeah, it appears the adults were right about that one.

for people like me who have trouble understanding some of the words? the closed captioning is on all the time at my house, otherwise I miss things. I would suppose it was all that time I spent really really close to the really big speakers in my youth that damaged my hearing.

Actually I do that too, I always have the captioning on, drives some people nuts though. That's how I noticed the music video thing. Just seemed odd.

Actually I do that too, I always have the captioning on, drives some people nuts though. That's how I noticed the music video thing. Just seemed odd.

I know people come over and say "can you turn off those word thingys? I can't read and watch at the same time" I am like :confused: what's the problem?!

anyway, don't you think the hearing impaired should be allowed to enjoy music as well?

"can you turn off those word thingys? I can't read and watch at the same time"

Ah, those people.


"So...like...Don't read."

for people like me who have trouble understanding some of the words? the closed captioning is on all the time at my house, otherwise I miss things. I would suppose it was all that time I spent really really close to the really big speakers in my youth that damaged my hearing.
Close captioning is a wonderful thing, isn't it? I hate having the TV loud, so I see it as a fair compromise.

Ah, those people.


"So...like...Don't read."

I know! I said "I need them on" and they say "can't you just listen?" :rolleyes:

Close captioning is a wonderful thing, isn't it? I hate having the TV loud, so I see it as a fair compromise.

you know what's even better? going to the captioned viewing of movies at the theater! :D I love it.

Doesn't anyone think when they design or mandate this sort of thing?

That's nothing. I saw a courtroom with a ceiling about 20ft high and notices -right up in the top corners of each wall - with braille signs just next to them.

I like to imagine that the braille signs said: "OK, don't panic. Just let your guide dog lead you back down the ladder."

I know people come over and say "can you turn off those word thingys? I can't read and watch at the same time" I am like :confused: what's the problem?!

anyway, don't you think the hearing impaired should be allowed to enjoy music as well?

No, just seemed to me that music probably wasn't a big passion of the hearing impaired, Beethoven aside.

No, just seemed to me that music probably wasn't a big passion of the hearing impaired, Beethoven aside.

why do you like music?

Honestly not a great fan of music, I'll often have it on as background noise, but not really listen to it. There are a few exceptions.

Just because yr deaf doesnt mean you cant be trendy as well lol

Plus some deaf people do like music....vibrations etc though i cant imaigne that theyd really be desparate to know the words lol

Honestly not a great fan of music, I'll often have it on as background noise, but not really listen to it. There are a few exceptions.

the lyrics to music are really important to me.

the lyrics to music are really important to me.

Lyrics don't matter so much to me, though there are several songs I like just for the lyrics. Opera for instance, incredible music, but I don't understand a word of it.

Lyrics don't matter so much to me, though there are several songs I like just for the lyrics. Opera for instance, incredible music, but I don't understand a word of it.

I can't listen to opera unless I am there to see it, then I get the basic idea of the song....LOL.

I can't listen to opera unless I am there to see it, then I get the basic idea of the song....LOL.

I can appreciate the beauty of the singing without having to know what they're saying. Probably a good thing I don't know much about Opera, I could get really pretentious about it I think.

I get the impression that captioning is used more in loud clubs and bars than by the actual deaf.

it's also for the overprotective parents who want to see the lyrics of the music their little angels are listening to. :eek:

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About a decade or so ago, when McDonald's restaurants were phasing out smoking in their restaurants, they were putting up braille No-Smoking signs.

Really? What's the point? If they caught a blind person smoking in the restaurant, they could tell them 'Hey, didn't you read the sign?'