NationStates Jolt Archive


Conneticut may restrict social networking sites, may use crappy analogies

Zarakon
12-03-2007, 05:38
Popular Internet social-networking sites like MySpace and Facebook would have to verify users' ages and get parental permission before minors could post profiles under a proposed law pending in the General Assembly.

Connecticut would become a national leader in protecting minors on the Internet if it adopts the tighter age restrictions, state Attorney General Richard Blumenthal said.

The bill cleared its first major hurdle Thursday when it won unanimous approval from the legislature's general law committee.

The intent of the bill is clear. Unclear is what form parental permission would take and what would prevent youths from faking permission.

While more than a dozen states are considering similar legislation, Connecticut is the first to draft and submit a law for review, said Blumenthal, who co-chairs a 45-member national task force of attorneys general studying the issue.

"Connecticut now has the opportunity to be out at the forefront of a proactive movement to protect our children from the perils of a social networking site," Blumenthal said during testimony before the law committee.

A MySpace official Thursday said it is working on security measures and insisted a law is not the best way to protect users.

Under the bill, networking sites that failed to verify ages and failed to obtain parental permission before posting profiles of users under age 18 would face civil penalties of up to $5,000 a day for every day of noncompliance.

The law would require sites to cross-check personal information - such as name, birth date and address - to see if it matched existing public records, Blumenthal said.

Those checks would reduce the chance that people using fraudulent information in their profiles would get several layers of erroneous personal information correct.

Parents would be contacted directly if necessary to confirm a minor's application and age, he said.

Blumenthal said parental permission might involve downloading a form, filling it out and mailing it to the site. Or perhaps requiring a parent to call and speak to a representative of the site.

Blumenthal said he would challenge the sites to come up with a method.

Ways to ensure that minors don't falsify permission also would be left to the sites.

The attorney general's office and state Department of Consumer Protection would monitor compliance through enforcement of the federal Fair Trade Practices Act.

Networking sites like MySpace, Facebook, Friendster and Xanga have been abused by older men who lie about their true age in their profiles seeking to lure underage girls into sex.

At least six alleged assaults involving older men and younger girls who met through MySpace were investigated in Connecticut last year, Blumenthal said.

Although networking sites have repeatedly fought the proposal, claiming various technical difficulties, Blumenthal said the stricter monitoring software is already available and increasingly affordable. Alcohol and tobacco companies use it, as do credit card companies, he said.

"If we can put a man on the moon, we can verify age on the Internet," Blumenthal said. "There is no fool-proof method, there is no silver bullet. But something, a reliable system, is better than nothing."

In a prepared statement, MySpace Chief Security Officer Hemanshu Nigam said the company is committed to protecting teens online but does not believe the proposed Connecticut law is the best way to do it. MySpace is one of the nation's largest social networking sites with nearly 160 million posted profiles.

What a retard. I think he should be made patron saint of bad analogies.
Dosuun
12-03-2007, 05:51
Hooray for non sequitur analogies involving the Apollo missions!
Relyc
12-03-2007, 05:56
Nonsense. Not that I've even wanted to use Myspace (though I do use facebook) for a very long time, but I don't think that there is any call for this kind of legislation. The fault lies with the parents who are not taking responsibility for limiting internet exposure for adolescents who are not mature enough to handle it.
Kroisistan
12-03-2007, 06:45
I've had enough of this bullshit.

ATTENTION:

The Internet is not endangering your children. It is information, nothing more. No magical doorway to Childmolesterstan will open in your house if your children use the internet. Pedophiles are not coming through your computer.

If your child is the type to meet someone online and have sex with that person, then they will do the same if that guy was propositioning on the sidewalk. It represents a combination of failure in parenting and failure of the individual's good judgment, not some need for draconian safety measures for all sidewalks in the State of Connecticuit.

While we're at it - the risk of child molestation is LOW. Do you hear me - LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOW.
Even using government figures, that's 6 assaults in a year out of 835,375 children (source - arcticle and here (http://cdf.convio.net/site/DocServer/ct-3.pdf?docID=368))

That means, in the state of Connecticut, 1 in every ~139,229nth child will be a victim of Myspace Molestation(tm). Based on the statistics, your child more than twice as likely to be sent to the hospital by the local swimming pool (source(you can do the math yourself) - here (http://www.injuryboard.com/view.cfm/Topic=128)). Why not a 5,000 dollar a day penalty for having unregistered children at the pool? Insane, you say. A waste of the government's time and agency, perhaps? Well wake the fuck up, IT'S MORE THAN TWICE AS DANGEROUS TO YOUR CHILD AS MYSPACE.

And while we're at it, nationwide Child Molestation is a highly overhyped crime. We're not in that much danger that we need urinate on sanity and civil rights whenever a politician mentions it. But that's a different annoucement.

THANK YOU FOR YOUR ATTENTION.
PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE LEGISLATION.
PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE LEGISLATION.
PLEASE STEP AWAY FROM THE LEGISLATION.
Zarakon
12-03-2007, 06:47
Hooray for non sequitur analogies involving the Apollo missions!

For example: This will turn out roughly as well as the Apollo 13 mission.

Oh...that's not really a non sequitur.
Proggresica
12-03-2007, 06:53
<snip>

Wrong.

(I don't plan on expanding unless others don't for me - there is just so much wrong in what you just said)
Lunatic Goofballs
12-03-2007, 06:55
Once again, legislators step in to try to do parents' jobs for them. :rolleyes:
Barringtonia
12-03-2007, 07:26
'I cut connect' would be a fabulous new state motto
Siap
12-03-2007, 07:28
Didn't we put a man on the moon before the internet?

To me, this is nothing more than a stepping stone for expanding governmental control to the internet. It is precisely because no one can regulate the internet that it has been such a benefit to free speech.

This is bad.
The Infinite Dunes
12-03-2007, 08:11
Under the bill, networking sites that failed to verify ages and failed to obtain parental permission before posting profiles of users under age 18 would face civil penalties of up to $5,000 a day for every day of noncompliance.I think the legislature of Connecticut thinks it just found itself a cash cow.
Ginnoria
12-03-2007, 08:22
Unless someone can offer me definitive proof that we put a man on the internet, I refuse to believe that the whole thing was anything more than an attempt to deceive the Chinese.
The Infinite Dunes
12-03-2007, 08:32
Unless someone can offer me definitive proof that we put a man on the internet, I refuse to believe that the whole thing was anything more than an attempt to deceive the Chinese.I could stand on my router and take a picture if you want.
Ginnoria
12-03-2007, 10:45
I could stand on my router and take a picture if you want.

I won't suffer to hear these lies. No man has ever been to the internet.
IL Ruffino
12-03-2007, 10:45
Unless someone can offer me definitive proof that we put a man on the internet, I refuse to believe that the whole thing was anything more than an attempt to deceive the Chinese.

http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GFRD,GFRD:2007-07,GFRD:en&q=man&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi
Ginnoria
12-03-2007, 12:07
http://images.google.com/images?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GFRD,GFRD:2007-07,GFRD:en&q=man&oe=UTF-8&um=1&sa=N&tab=wi

Nice try. Those are just men photoshopped over pictures of the internet. You can't fool me.
The Infinite Dunes
12-03-2007, 12:20
Nice try. Those are just men photoshopped over pictures of the internet. You can't fool me.How about this? This man has been to the internet. Specifically the London Internet Exchange.
http://www.i-tec.co.uk/images/co-lo.jpg
Ginnoria
12-03-2007, 12:34
How about this? This man has been to the internet. Specifically the London Internet Exchange.
http://www.i-tec.co.uk/images/co-lo.jpg

Don't tell me you actually believe in internet browsers. They don't exist; it's all a Hollywood fiction. Even if they were real, there's no way they could get anyone to the internet. Remember, there's no air in the internet. You can't breathe.
Bodies Without Organs
12-03-2007, 12:37
Remember, there's no air in the internet. You can't breathe.

Results 1 - 10 of about 598,000,000 for air (http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=air&meta=&btnG=Google+Search)
The Infinite Dunes
12-03-2007, 12:41
Results 1 - 10 of about 598,000,000 for air (http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=air&meta=&btnG=Google+Search)508,000,000? Are you kidding me, that isn't even one whole mole of air.
The Infinite Dunes
12-03-2007, 12:43
Don't tell me you actually believe in internet browsers. They don't exist; it's all a Hollywood fiction. Even if they were real, there's no way they could get anyone to the internet. Remember, there's no air in the internet. You can't breathe.Yes, but there is an intern in internet.
Seathornia
12-03-2007, 12:44
Results 1 - 10 of about 598,000,000 for air (http://www.google.co.uk/search?client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla%3Aen-GB%3Aofficial&channel=s&hl=en&q=air&meta=&btnG=Google+Search)

Hmm, if that's the going rate for air on the internet, we could solve the worlds global warming problems by buying from the internet!
Zarakon
13-03-2007, 01:57
If we can put a man on the moon, we can bump this thread.
Deus Malum
13-03-2007, 02:42
508,000,000? Are you kidding me, that isn't even one whole mole of air.

You need to check your units. It's in kilograms.
New Genoa
13-03-2007, 02:48
If we put a man on the moon, then we can deal with shitty social networking sites like MySpace.

Get over it legislators.
Rejistania
13-03-2007, 02:55
Connecticut should outlaw the internet to live up to their name ("connection cut").
Chumblywumbly
13-03-2007, 02:58
*touches your boobies through teh interweb*
Rejistania
13-03-2007, 03:01
but then I wouldn't be able to connect and show my <3 to you
Stop being so annoying on the IRC and now also here! And get a LIFE! Now!

EDit: this is not a flame this is a reaction to a lot of things which happened offsite!
New Genoa
13-03-2007, 03:04
Connecticut should outlaw the internet to live up to their name ("connection cut").

but then I wouldn't be able to connect and show my <3 to you
Sel Appa
13-03-2007, 03:33
I wonder if he even knows if he has an email address...
Teh_pantless_hero
13-03-2007, 03:36
"Connecticut now has the opportunity to be out at the forefront of a proactive movement to protect our children from the perils of a social networking site," Blumenthal said during testimony before the law committee.
Did anyone see images of Pitfall?
Zarakon
13-03-2007, 03:38
but then I wouldn't be able to connect and show my <3 to you

Eugh. That can't be pretty.