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"One of them weird new age sexualities"?

I'll miss you when the flames send you screaming from the forums.

:D

EDIT: Are you sure it was such a good idea to make this vote public?

*Not necessarily improved OR new.

Anyway, see poll. If it aint' listed, post it. Well, post anyway. We haven't had one of these in a while so I figure I'll start a new one. Be advised, poll is public.

one for team gay. I wouldn't put myself in the same catagory as a straight person though as far as gender - it's not the same "male" for me that it is for a bi or straight guy. I'm not female, but I see a very clear cut difference between myself and 99% of straight guys, and it's about non-sexual identity as much or moreso than sexual. if given an accepting environment to do so in, I'd prefer to get rid of gender entirely, to be honest. however, passing for female in this culture involves all sorts of fucked up commercialised and oppresive bullshit like makeup and shaving and plucking and pruning, and generally isn't worth the effort, so I dress and groom as a male. I'd rather be a hippie-chick, though.

I put "one of those weird new age sexualities" because "male" was included in gay. I disassociate my identity with maleness rather more than I associate my attraction with it...so that was the most accurate option. for convienience sake you can consider me gay, though, since I think most gay guys are in a similar third gender catagory, even if they're using male pronouns.

That's humor option #1.

Yeah, that's fairly obvious.


Male/bi is humor option #2.

Why is that a humor option?

"One of them weird new age sexualities"?

I'll miss you when the flames send you screaming from the forums.

:D

EDIT: Are you sure it was such a good idea to make this vote public?
That's humor option #1. Male/bi is humor option #2.

That's humor option #1. Male/bi is humor option #2.

come again?

Exactly. :p

the gay illuminati is watching you.

:cool: :fluffle: :fluffle:
:cool: :eek: :eek:

come again?
Exactly. :p

Exactly. :p

why the hell is it posting responses to things before the origional posts?

My only question is, if you are a female who intends to become a male, and are bisexual with a male leaning, would it be male-gay, female-bi prefers male, or what?

why the hell is it posting responses to things before the origional posts?

Jolt is slightly retarded.

why the hell is it posting responses to things before the origional posts?Myrth is making Jolt dance! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCcb3zRl8U)

Uhm, what I wanted to say was.. Why's shaving and such a bad thing? Personally I aim to look my best, partly just because it makes me comfortable, and partly because I want to be desired by my lover. And it works both ways.

In my opinion, the only sort of signal you communicate by not doing it, is that you don't give a fuck about your lover, and very probably take him/her for granted.

Now you can discuss exactly what sort of standards we apply, and I'll be the first to admit social norms are bollox here, as beauty is entirely subjective. Rather a lot of people, for example, think I look like a fucking trainwreck, because I don't fit the norm. But that has little to do with me trying to look nice, and more to do with my kind of nice not being the same as the majority's kind of nice.

I said "New Age," because, although I've so far only really had heterosexual feelings, I don't believe in putting people in boxes. Just because right now I'm lusting pretty heavily for a male, that doesn't mean I wouldn't ever have a relationship with a girl. I'm open-minded, but not really bi, if you know what I mean.

male primary and secondary sexual characteristics - bi - depends entirely on the individual person and my current mood. guess i'm new age then.

My only question is, if you are a female who intends to become a male, and are bisexual with a male leaning, would it be male-gay, female-bi prefers male, or what?
... see option #9 and/or #10.

Female- asexual- attracted to neither

I don't think I'm going to vote on the poll...

I'm sorry. Call me a bigot and an asshole if you have to, but WAAAAY too much information.

No, I'm no bigot, but I'm going to have to agree with you.

Female- asexual- attracted to neither

I don't think I'm going to vote on the poll...
Then Myrth is the option for you! :rolleyes:

that is one of the best things for a male to hear from his girlfriend.

You are a horrible, miserable excuse for a person.

And very funny. You're a very funny excuse for a person.

:D

I know. I fully use it to seduce men.

What, you just walk up to them and say "I'm open-minded!"?

Actually, at some bars that would probably work.

one for team gay. I wouldn't put myself in the same catagory as a straight person though as far as gender - it's not the same "male" for me that it is for a bi or straight guy. I'm not female, but I see a very clear cut difference between myself and 99% of straight guys, and it's about non-sexual identity as much or moreso than sexual. if given an accepting environment to do so in, I'd prefer to get rid of gender entirely, to be honest. however, passing for female in this culture involves all sorts of fucked up commercialised and oppresive bullshit like makeup and shaving and plucking and pruning, and generally isn't worth the effort, so I dress and groom as a male. I'd rather be a hippie-chick, though.

I put "one of those weird new age sexualities" because "male" was included in gay. I disassociate my identity with maleness rather more than I associate my attraction with it...so that was the most accurate option. for convienience sake you can consider me gay, though, since I think most gay guys are in a similar third gender catagory, even if they're using male pronouns.

I'm sorry. Call me a bigot and an asshole if you have to, but WAAAAY too much information.

I said "New Age," because, although I've so far only really had heterosexual feelings, I don't believe in putting people in boxes. Just because right now I'm lusting pretty heavily for a male, that doesn't mean I wouldn't ever have a relationship with a girl. I'm open-minded, but not really bi, if you know what I mean.

that is one of the best things for a male to hear from his girlfriend.

that is one of the best things for a male to hear from his girlfriend.

I know. I fully use it to seduce men.

I knew there was a reason NSG wasn't a good place to hang..

There aren't any straight females on here :(

I'll just have to plump for one of the bi-females who leans towards males, I guess...

I know. I fully use it to seduce men.

You have fully cracked the male psyche. Congrats.:D

Bi - prefer female.
So's my girlfriend.

My question is - why aren't there "Bi - both genders equally", "Pan sexual" or "Asexual" options?

And I'd rather seperate the Furries from the other weird newagist types.

Bi - prefer female.
So's my girlfriend.

My question is - why aren't there "Bi - both genders equally", "Pan sexual" or "Asexual" options?

And I'd rather seperate the Furries from the other weird newagist types.

Not enough room. That's the reason for any poll lacking an option on NSG. Plus, you really only have 9 option slots. The tenth one's got to be Myrth.

You have fully cracked the male psyche. Congrats.:DIn my experience, the reverse is equally true. Plus, it's usually a good idea to ease people into the concept of you not being straight.. Even if it's slightly dishonest.

Myrth option should've probably been replaced with asexual

I am a straight guy. And I am sad. :(

Myrth option should've probably been replaced with asexualWhy? I mean, this thread's called "post your sexuality" not "post your lack of it" :p

One of the countless "Male/Straights" we've got wobblin' around on these fora.

In my experience, the reverse is equally true. Plus, it's usually a good idea to ease people into the concept of you not being straight.. Even if it's slightly dishonest.

QFT, i've had too many people say they couldn't go out with someone who was bi because they'd "forever be wondering where the person had been" :rolleyes:. somewhat disheartening that, especially since most of them were hot. much better, it seems, to get someone to like you despite anything else and then tell em not all your exes have been the same sex as them.

Why? I mean, this thread's called "post your sexuality" not "post your lack of it" :p

but then the asexuals are alienated :(

too bad for them.

Even asexuals have certain gender prefrences don't they?

No. If they had gender preferences, they wouldn't be asexual. They'd be people who can't get any.

QFT, i've had too many people say they couldn't go out with someone who was bi because they'd "forever be wondering where the person had been" :rolleyes:. somewhat disheartening that, especially since most of them were hot. much better, it seems, to get someone to like you despite anything else and then tell em not all your exes have been the same sex as them.Indeed. I've never heard of a single bisexual who hadn't had to deal with the bullshit trust & disgust issues. I've had quite a few relationships (serious and not so serious both), and I'm pretty sure the current one's the only exception.
Cold as it may sound, I'm quite certain much of the reason it's never been an issue in my current relationship's because I've learnt to be a bit dodgy about it.

Even asexuals have certain gender prefrences don't they?

Representing the region of Gay!

I'm a straight guy I guess though if I liked some guy I guess I wouldn’t go all repression

I am a straight guy. And I am sad. :(

awww *sodomises* :fluffle:

Even asexuals have certain gender prefrences don't they?

Don’t be silly if you don’t like sex its kind of regardless of gender*hides massive brush*

I think most gay guys are in a similar third gender catagory, even if they're using male pronouns.

Loony nonsense.

awww *sodomises* :fluffle:

*can't breathe*

What, you just walk up to them and say "I'm open-minded!"?

Actually, at some bars that would probably work.

Haha, no, though that would probably work. I'm not allowed in bars, though. It's mostly if I want to torture I guy I like (or don't like), I say something about me wanting to make out with Kiera Knightley or performing naked for a female friend (inside joke). I guess that's one of the big reasons why I'm a total ho-bag, the other ones being much worse.

Indeed. I've never heard of a single bisexual who hadn't had to deal with the bullshit trust & disgust issues. I've had quite a few relationships (serious and not so serious both), and I'm pretty sure the current one's the only exception.
Cold as it may sound, I'm quite certain much of the reason it's never been an issue in my current relationship's because I've learnt to be a bit dodgy about it.

you mean you're avoiding having to mention it?

Myrth is making Jolt dance! (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDCcb3zRl8U)

Uhm, what I wanted to say was.. Why's shaving and such a bad thing? Personally I aim to look my best, partly just because it makes me comfortable, and partly because I want to be desired by my lover. And it works both ways.

In my opinion, the only sort of signal you communicate by not doing it, is that you don't give a fuck about your lover, and very probably take him/her for granted.

Now you can discuss exactly what sort of standards we apply, and I'll be the first to admit social norms are bollox here, as beauty is entirely subjective. Rather a lot of people, for example, think I look like a fucking trainwreck, because I don't fit the norm. But that has little to do with me trying to look nice, and more to do with my kind of nice not being the same as the majority's kind of nice.

shaving because you like how it looks and/or feels is one thing, shaving because society dictates that you are not a woman unless you look like a plucked chicken (or strongly resemble a pre-pubescent girl) is bullshit. most conventions of female beauty either make women look younger (again, as in pre-pubescent, not just youthful) or weaker.

I'm sorry. Call me a bigot and an asshole if you have to, but WAAAAY too much information.

cry me a damn river. it's a poll about sexuality, and I responded with information on it. saying I'm a biological male who does not shave is not exactly shaking the foundations of social convention here, either. I'm honestly suprised you remotely care.

I look like this. (http://photos-483.ak.facebook.com/ip002/v63/245/40/55009100/n55009100_31119483_5023.jpg) not particularly freakish, (not a particularly good picture, eitherl) not that it should matter.

Loony nonsense.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic because you agree with me or if you're just declaring your opinion without any sort of foundation in logic or factual support. since every interaction I've had with you has involved the latter, though, I'll go with that.

I see no-one is a Myrthsexual so far.

Asexual. And that should be on the poll. Many people declare atheism a religion, so why can't asexuality be a sexuality?;)

I'm straighter than a circle. ;)

Even asexuals have certain gender prefrences don't they?


They can. Some asexuals describe themselves as biromantic, homoromantic, or heteroromantic asexuals. I'm an aromantic asexual myself, though.

I'm straighter than a circle. ;)

You surely mean a tangent to the circle then.

I don't have a sexuality, but I have many many catpics.

Haha, no, though that would probably work. I'm not allowed in bars, though. It's mostly if I want to torture I guy I like (or don't like), I say something about me wanting to make out with Kiera Knightley or performing naked for a female friend (inside joke). I guess that's one of the big reasons why I'm a total ho-bag, the other ones being much worse.

*gets it, kind of*

I'm straighter than a circle. ;)
then please allow me to lie tangent to your curve. ;)


It works better when a guy's saying it to a girl, but meh.

then please allow me to lie tangent to your curve. ;)


It works better when a guy's saying it to a girl, but meh.

Math flirting. Winful.

Math flirting. Winful.
Oh, I am full of nerdy pick-up lines. In face, I'm attracted to you like the Earth is attracted to the Sun--with a large force inversely proportional to the distance squared.

you mean you're avoiding having to mention it?Nope. I mean, I've learnt to ease into it, downplay it, and try to make people curious rather than shocked & horrified. Make sure s/he gets along with your hot bi friend before s/he finds our it's a bi friend. Then take the discussion about the friend & see how that goes. Then periodically drop a few hints, and try to make your lover curious if you can (never ever works on guys sadly).

For some reason it's a major fucking bombshell, so by dodgy I meant trying to subtly prepare your lover for it & not drop it 'til s/he is.

This poll will close on 26-07-2034 at 6:34 PM

:D

I am only attracted to/interested in my husband.......so I didn't know what to vote.

I am only attracted to/interested in my husband.......so I didn't know what to vote.
You are either joking or really dumb.

Knowing the typical MSG poste,r I'm gonna go with the former.

I am only attracted to/interested in my husband.......so I didn't know what to vote.
You are either joking or really dumb.

Knowing the typical MSG poster I'm gonna go with the former.

You are either joking or really dumb.

Knowing the typical MSG poste,r I'm gonna go with the former.

I am neither joking or really dumb. I am serious. If I were attracted to men in general I would be straight, but I am not attracted to men, I am attracted to one man. If I were attracted to women I would be a lesbian, but I am not attracted to women. If I were attracted to nobody I would be asexual, but I am attracted to someone.

Seriously, I don't know how to vote on that poll.

I am neither joking or really dumb. I am serious. If I were attracted to men in general I would be straight, but I am not attracted to men, I am attracted to one man. If I were attracted to women I would be a lesbian, but I am not attracted to women. If I were attracted to nobody I would be asexual, but I am attracted to someone.

Seriously, I don't know how to vote on that poll.

Hetero. I mean, just 'cause I'm straight, doesn't mean I have to be attracted to all women! It just means that all the people to whom I am attracted are female.

then please allow me to lie tangent to your curve.

I fear that your tangent may be asymptotic to that curve, but hey, you know the old joke about the physicist, the mathematician, the engineer and the naked lady, don't you?

if given an accepting environment to do so in, I'd prefer to get rid of gender entirely, to be honest. however, passing for female in this culture involves all sorts of fucked up commercialised and oppresive bullshit like makeup and shaving and plucking and pruning, and generally isn't worth the effort, so I dress and groom as a male. I'd rather be a hippie-chick, though.
I cannot fathom why. Were I a woman I'd definitely be into make up - even as a guy I am into it, slightly! I consider none of what you mentioned oppressive. In fact, I would indulge in it due to my own vanity. A woman who puts no effort into how she looks is nearly as bad as a guy who doesn't...

Loony nonsense.
We agree for once. :)

I fear that your tangent may be asymptotic to that curve,
Then wouldn't the limit of your hotness approach infinity? ;) :p
but hey, you know the old joke about the physicist, the mathematician, the engineer and the naked lady, don't you?
No, but please do tell.

Hetero. I mean, just 'cause I'm straight, doesn't mean I have to be attracted to all women! It just means that all the people to whom I am attracted are female.

I am not attracted to anyone but him though, never have been. I would assume if he were not around I would not be attracted to anyone.

Male. Straight.

I am not attracted to anyone but him though, never have been. I would assume if he were not around I would not be attracted to anyone.

Well, if his body were somehow changed into a female one, would you still consider him sexually attractive?

Well, if his body were somehow changed into a female one, would you still consider him sexually attractive?

yes.

Male - Smunkeesexual.

Male - Smunkeesexual.

:p :eek: :p

:p :eek: :p

It's an interesting sexuality, I must say. :p

It's an interesting sexuality, I must say. :pI wish God made me a Smunkeesexual. :(

I wish God made me a Smunkeesexual. :(Why - are you her husband or what?

Male-gay.

Wouldn't you like to be a Pepper too?

Lol... no. :p

Lol... no. :p

Did you vote wrong on the poll? b/c on there you say your a gay male yet I remember in another thread you said you have a kid and are dating a Muslim male(which I don't get since your not supposed to date in Islam, and you sure as hell can't be gay). care to straighten this out for me.

Did you vote wrong on the poll? b/c on there you say your a gay male yet I remember in another thread you said you have a kid and are dating a Muslim male(which I don't get since your not supposed to date in Islam, and you sure as hell can't be gay). care to straighten this out for me.

I voted gay, and I am gay.

I have a kid yes.

I am dating a Muslim male, indeed.

Next?

How did you have your kid if your gay?

The time you had sex in a Mosque, was it with your gay boyfriend?

Is your boyfriend open about the fact he's gay?LMAO! Sorry, I just find it funny how a lot of people think you are not able to impregnate girls if they're gay. How did I do it? I had sex with a girl, of course.

Yes, it was with my gay boyfriend. I certainly wouldn't have done it with my straight boyfriend. :p :p

He's very open. His parents know and everything.

How did you have your kid if your gay?

:rolleyes:

I voted gay, and I am gay.

I have a kid yes.

I am dating a Muslim male, indeed.

Next?

How did you have your kid if your gay?

The time you had sex in a Mosque, was it with your gay boyfriend?

Is your boyfriend open about the fact he's gay?

I voted gay, and I am gay.

I have a kid yes.

I am dating a Muslim male, indeed.

Next?

Oh, he's one of those progressive muslims.


Notice I say "One".

Oh, he's one of those progressive muslims.


Notice I say "One".His parents are too. :D

sorry, how was a bad choice of words. I suppose I meant why, if your not attracted to women.



Do the other Muslims at the Masjid know?I was 14, confused, immature, juvenile, and most of all... dumb.

No they don't.

LMAO! Sorry, I just find it funny how a lot of people think you are not able to impregnate girls if they're gay. How did I do it? I had sex with a girl, of course.
sorry, how was a bad choice of words. I suppose I meant why, if your not attracted to women.

He's very open. His parents know and everything.

Do the other Muslims at the Masjid know?

I am male, and I have never been sexually attracted to another boy (I don't think my hormones are configured to allow for it); however, I do find some men to be physically attractive.

At the same time, I am romantically attracted to men in the same way that I am to women, and would certainly have a relationship with a man if the emotional attachment were there.

*shrugs*

Male bisexual who prefers women?

His parents are too. :D

in what way? is his family simply Muslim in name only. Because to be honest his behaviour is not like any Muslim I have ever heard of and has done things strongly on the side of unIslamic ie having gay sex in a Mosque.

His parents are too. :D

in what way? is his family simply Muslim in name only. Because to be honest his behaviour is not like any Muslim I have ever heard of and has done things strongly on the side of unIslamic ie having gay sex in a Mosque.

in what way? is his family simply Muslim in name only. Because to be honest his behaviour is not like any Muslim I have ever heard of and has done things strongly on the side of unIslamic ie having gay sex in a Mosque.No. They are very devout Muslims from what I have seen. They take their faith very seriously, they just do not follow some of the more conservative doctrines. This doesn't make them any less of a Muslim than a hard line one. They believe in gay marriage, which is probably their most liberal trait.

I'm not going to get into details of the sex in a Mosque thing (not THOSE kinds of details!), but I can say it wasn't a good thing to do, and I don't remember why (there is no excuse), so I can't say anything about it.

I'm a male lesbian at heart but a practicing non-sexual.

Well let's see....

*ponders about the porn I watched on wednesday and takes look inside my pants*

As far as I know, I'm straight and a male.

in what way? is his family simply Muslim in name only. Because to be honest his behaviour is not like any Muslim I have ever heard of and has done things strongly on the side of unIslamic ie having gay sex in a Mosque.

And people say muslims are intolerant.


NOTE: This is not a jab at Islam. This is a jab at Soviestan proving about 50% of the stereotypes about his religion in 3 sentences.

Yeah... seriously.

From what I've seen, the Muslims in my area are fairly liberal and nothing like these stereotypical murderous hardliners.

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic because you agree with me or if you're just declaring your opinion without any sort of foundation in logic or factual support.

Seeing as your opinion was completely devoid of this "foundation in logic or factual support", and was instead a loony attempt to project your gender confusion upon millions and millions of other people, who in fact tend not to have any sort of confusion about their gender at all (seeing as their gender being static is the whole point of being able to fuck the same gender, and no it's not some sort of stupid "third" one, it's one of the two), in what I can only assume is a way for you not to feel so fucked up... well, let's just say I'm not going to entertain and facilitate this striving of yours to delude yourself. No, most gay people aren't like you, no matter how much you'd like to comfort yourself with loony "logic" which really isn't even a poor facsimile of actual logic, and it's a good thing that they aren't.

So, dwell in your own gender confusion and "reasoning" about your own deviance - and a deviance it is, even when compared to such deviants as gay people; no value judgement there, just a simple conclusion that follows from the fact that gay people are in most cases not like what you described about yourself at all - do not project it on other people because it's ultimately untrue and just you fooling yourself, neither of which will gain you any support.

I'm a guy and I like chicks.

I said "New Age," because, although I've so far only really had heterosexual feelings, I don't believe in putting people in boxes. Just because right now I'm lusting pretty heavily for a male, that doesn't mean I wouldn't ever have a relationship with a girl. I'm open-minded, but not really bi, if you know what I mean.

I am male, and I have never been sexually attracted to another boy (I don't think my hormones are configured to allow for it); however, I do find some men to be physically attractive.

At the same time, I am romantically attracted to men in the same way that I am to women, and would certainly have a relationship with a man if the emotional attachment were there.

*shrugs*

Male bisexual who prefers women?

These are two very good examples of what we call 'heteroflexible'

"One of them weird new age sexualities"?

I'll miss you when the flames send you screaming from the forums.

:D

EDIT: Are you sure it was such a good idea to make this vote public?
Why, wouldn't it be?
Can't we all just not get along?
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Straight Male

I thought there'd be more females here.. weird...

I thought there'd be more females here.. weird...
There are no females on teh interwebs!

There are no females on teh interwebs!

Only males and transvestites, then?

Only males and transvestites, then?
Of course, and they are all 44 and balding, from Bristol, living in their parents basements!

Of course, and they are all 44 and balding, from Bristol, living in their parents basements!

I'm only 43..

Male, bisexual, prefers female.

Also, Vegan Nuts: you're gender confused, and we're not. Deal with it.

Oh dear well I’ve picked “female –bi – prefer females” but there’s no even vaguely constant sexual orientation for me. I float freely between bi and lesbian depending on things as simple as my mood and probably what I had for breakfast that morning. :p

Sexuality is my little play toy to serve me and I’m extremely experimental in how I employ it whether that be with a man, a woman, or both at the same time. :D

I must say that I think I’ve encountered the bi “trust” issue because boyfriends (surprisingly not girlfriends) a few times because I’m somehow more likely to be unfaithful.:rolleyes:

Anyhoo, at the moment I have a female “friend with benefits” but before that I had a very successful long term relationship with a male. As a general rule I think I prefer other women but a single relationship with a man can be as potent as three with women (vice versa), it all depends on the individual. That doesn’t make sense at all does it? :D

I am Christ-weary of fucking categories. Pun very much intended.

most conventions of female beauty either make women look younger (again, as in pre-pubescent, not just youthful)

So you're saying that men tend to like women with no breasts, small hips and under four foot tall?

Looks like you've really thought this through :rolleyes:

As you know I am a M to F Transexual, and my sexuality is hetosexual female.

So you're saying that men tend to like women with no breasts, small hips and under four foot tall?

Looks like you've really thought this through :rolleyes:
I believe Vegan Nuts was saying that current conventions in beauty make women look younger. Whether or not particular men actually like this is up for debate. I know a lot of guys who find "mainstream" beauty standards extremely unattractive.

However, the fact remains that current trends in Western beauty do, indeed, favor the prepubescent look for women. Extreme thinness is favored, and slim hips and small breasts go along with this. Just watch TV for a little while and you will see that most cosmetic commercials will mention the need for women to look younger. The traits that cosmetics aim to enhance and project are all traits associated with the young, and particularly with children. "Baby-soft skin" is mentioned in just about every lotion ad I've ever seen. Body-hair removal is a means of making the adult female body resemble the prepubescent body, since women experience body hair growth at puberty just like men do.

I believe Vegan Nuts was saying that current conventions in beauty make women look younger. Whether or not particular men actually like this is up for debate. I know a lot of guys who find "mainstream" beauty standards extremely unattractive.

However, the fact remains that current trends in Western beauty do, indeed, favor the prepubescent look for women. Extreme thinness is favored, and slim hips and small breasts go along with this. Just watch TV for a little while and you will see that most cosmetic commercials will mention the need for women to look younger. The traits that cosmetics aim to enhance and project are all traits associated with the young, and particularly with children. "Baby-soft skin" is mentioned in just about every lotion ad I've ever seen.

This is one of the reasons I don't watch much TV anymore.

My preference is anywhere from 5'3" to 5'10", and definitely not underweight. I like women who look like women and not children. Oh, and not being a slave to trendiness helps, too.

We can go on and on about how bad all of this is, but in reality, there are a lot of women who don't fit in the category the big designers want them to. I mean, who wants to even be around somebody who follows suit, regardless of their sex? I know that I'm not one to make friends with guys or girls who spend immense amounts of money on their wardrobes and check their weight every hour (this last one's hyperbole, but you can see what I'm saying).

I also have a problem with people who use body lotions/creams. It's their choice if they want ridiculously soft, smooth skin, but they pay the price when they get older. Oh yeah, wrinkles like you've never seen. My grandma was one such victim.

However, the fact remains that current trends in Western beauty do, indeed, favor the prepubescent look for women. Extreme thinness is favored, and slim hips and small breasts go along with this.

It's true that there are lots of super-thin models and other female celebrities, but I've seen little evidence that straight men's desires are a significant factor in this. I mean, how many straight men are involved in things like fashion shows, for example? As for the actresses, etc. I have no idea where they get such ideas. Pressure from other women? It's bizarre.

There's being slim in the sense of keeping fit, but starving oneself is not healthy and I am of the opinion that healthiness is the main factor in attractiveness.

Just watch TV for a little while and you will see that most cosmetic commercials will mention the need for women to look younger. The traits that cosmetics aim to enhance and project are all traits associated with the young, and particularly with children. "Baby-soft skin" is mentioned in just about every lotion ad I've ever seen.

I think there's a confusion here in that "young" has two separate meanings. One can be young in the sense of "undeveloped" or young in the sense of "less deteriorated".

They're very different in fact, since the first "young" is the result of having a body that has not yet grown to full capability, whereas the second is the result of one's body having not yet begun to break down. I'd say that a normal person's attraction is toward a body at its best, which is neither undeveloped, nor aged.

However, the fact remains that current trends in Western beauty do, indeed, favor the prepubescent look for women.The popularity of breast implants would seem to belie this statement.

The popularity of breast implants would seem to belie this statement.
Not really. Women are basically supposed to look like little girls with fake boobies. They're supposed to be impossibly slim but with giant ta-tas.

Gay male, though I do find some women physically appealing, it's not a sexual thing. I used to think that meant I was Bi, but I've never found women sexually alluring.

It's true that there are lots of super-thin models and other female celebrities, but I've seen little evidence that straight men's desires are a significant factor in this. I mean, how many straight men are involved in things like fashion shows, for example? As for the actresses, etc. I have no idea where they get such ideas. Pressure from other women? It's bizarre.

Hey, I'm absolutely not trying to sound like I agree with any of this "beauty" weirdness.

I think straight men's desires are a significant factor in it, but not necessarily in the way you might think: the majority of the companies that profit of this beauty standard are owned and run by straight men, so their desires are important...but it's their desire for PROFIT, not necessarily their personal sexual preferences.

For example, I think the diet/weight-loss thing is actually driven by the profit motive more than most people think. If you can convince women that they are supposed to be impossibly thin, then they're going to be dieting pretty much forever and ever trying to reach that image, and you can sell them all sorts of glorious products to help them in their never-ending quest to become something they cannot possibly be.


There's being slim in the sense of keeping fit, but starving oneself is not healthy and I am of the opinion that healthiness is the main factor in attractiveness.

The problem with equating health and beauty is that you can run in to some false assumptions. For instance, there are people who genuinely are perfectly healthy when they are very very thin. There are also people who are perfectly healthy when they are "overweight" as defined by our society. There are relatively few people who are actually at their optimal weight (health-wise) when their body looks the way our society says "beauty" is supposed to look. What we define as a "fit" look is actually pretty artificial for the majority of human beings.


I think there's a confusion here in that "young" has two separate meanings. One can be young in the sense of "undeveloped" or young in the sense of "less deteriorated".

And I think the mainstream beauty marketing is aimed at making women appear undeveloped. Hairless, extremely slim--particularly in areas that develop increased fat stores with puberty--and slight of frame, skin that is "baby soft," lips that are extremely plump, eyes that are proportionately large relative to the face, etc. A great many indicators of extreme youth are common features in mainstream "beauty" standards.


They're very different in fact, since the first "young" is the result of having a body that has not yet grown to full capability, whereas the second is the result of one's body having not yet begun to break down. I'd say that a normal person's attraction is toward a body at its best, which is neither undeveloped, nor aged.
I'd say a "normal" person doesn't exist. Everybody's tastes are a bit different.

Not really. Women are basically supposed to look like little girls with fake boobies.Then they don't look like "prepubescent" girls...

And I wager there's two reasons for shaving and neither one has to do with looking like you're 12.

Then they don't look like "prepubescent" girls...

They look like prepubescent girls with fake boobies. What's hard to understand about that?


And I wager there's two reasons for shaving and neither one has to do with looking like you're 12.
There are far more than 2 reasons for shaving, and the overwhelming majority of people will tell you they are definitely NOT doing it to look like they're 12. None of this change the fact that removing body hair has the effect of making the body more closely resemble its prepubescent state.

Can you understand that people may do something which has an unintended effect in addition to the effects they are trying to achieve?

They look like prepubescent girls with fake boobies. What's hard to understand about that?Probably the fact that since prepubescent girls don't have breasts, someone who wants a prepubescent girl won't want someone with breasts.

None of this change the fact that removing body hair has the effect of making the body more closely resemble its prepubescent state.Ah. See, I thought intent mattered. Because, you know, it also has the effect of making one's partner not have to pick hair out of their teeth.

Can you understand that people may do something which has an unintended effect in addition to the effects they are trying to achieve?Can you understand that you may be overreacting?

They look like prepubescent girls with fake boobies. What's hard to understand about that?
The breasts are an indicator of maturity though, so perhaps you'd be better saying that the image is one of inconsistent maturity, rather than just overlooking some parts in order to declare it "prepubescent"?

Wow it's interesting how many females let alone straight ones take part in this thread... I'M STRAIGHT AND I'M PROUD!!!

Probably the fact that since prepubescent girls don't have breasts, someone who wants a prepubescent girl won't want someone with breasts.

Um, we're not talking about pedophiles, here. I'm not saying that your average straight male actually wants to date a prepubescent girl. I'm talking about beauty standards in the mainstream, and how a great many of them are aimed at making adult women appear to have traits of prepubescent girls.


Ah. See, I thought intent mattered. Because, you know, it also has the effect of making one's partner not have to pick hair out of their teeth.

*Shrug* I've never had to pull a hair out of my teeth after going down on somebody who hadn't shaved. Maybe some people shave for that reason; I don't, and nobody I've slept with does.


Can you understand that you may be overreacting?
In this case, no, since my reaction really isn't strong at all. To be overreacting I would need to be at least reacting somewhat strongly. I'm actually kind of bored at this point, as opposed to being worked up.

The breasts are an indicator of maturity though, so perhaps you'd be better saying that the image is one of inconsistent maturity, rather than just overlooking some parts in order to declare it "prepubescent"?
I'd say most of mainstream "beauty" ideology is extremely inconsistent. :D

If it's sapient and consents, fuck it.

If it's not sapient, fuck it.

If it's an object, use it to augment your masturbation experience.

True story: Some years ago, a former girlfriend of mine had a lesbian friend. Or perhaps I should say bisexual, because, after years of being a strict lesbian, she broke up with her girlfriend and moved in with a man.

However, this man had some interesting gender issues of his own. He had been married, but then decided that he wanted to become a woman. He couldn't afford sex-change surgery, so he started taking female hormones in an effort to become female. (About this time his wife divorced him. Apparantly, when the judge heard about the guy's gender issues, he waived the usual separation period and granted an immediate divorce.)

But then, the transgender man and the lesbian met, fell in love, and moved in together. So I guess, technically, it was a heterosexual relationship. I'm just not sure what two different genders were involved. :confused:

How did I get involved with this? My girlfriend drafted me to help her friend move her furniture into the guy's apartment. I can't decide if I did a good thing or not.

:p

True story: Some years ago, a former girlfriend of mine had a lesbian friend. Or perhaps I should say bisexual, because, after years of being a strict lesbian, she broke up with her girlfriend and moved in with a man.

However, this man had some interesting gender issues of his own. He had been married, but then decided that he wanted to become a woman. He couldn't afford sex-change surgery, so he started taking female hormones in an effort to become female. (About this time his wife divorced him. Apparantly, when the judge heard about the guy's gender issues, he waived the usual separation period and granted an immediate divorce.)

But then, the transgender man and the lesbian met, fell in love, and moved in together. So I guess, technically, it was a heterosexual relationship. I'm just not sure what two different genders were involved. :confused:

How did I get involved with this? My girlfriend drafted me to help her friend move her furniture into the guy's apartment. I can't decide if I did a good thing or not.

:p

Well, considering that the 'man' was becoming a woman, it would be a homosexual relationship.

It depends on the day....

And people say muslims are intolerant.


NOTE: This is not a jab at Islam. This is a jab at Soviestan proving about 50% of the stereotypes about his religion in 3 sentences.

So b/c I happen to disagree with gay sex in a Mosque I am some how intolerant? Your a special one.

Depends how drunk I am probably.

I am male, and I have never been sexually attracted to another boy (I don't think my hormones are configured to allow for it); however, I do find some men to be physically attractive.

At the same time, I am romantically attracted to men in the same way that I am to women, and would certainly have a relationship with a man if the emotional attachment were there.

*shrugs*

Male bisexual who prefers women?
No, simply heterosexual, albeit open-minded. A bisexual by definition is attracted sexually to males as well as females.

I'm a male lesbian at heart but a practicing non-sexual.
Ditto. :D



However, the fact remains that current trends in Western beauty do, indeed, favor the prepubescent look for women. Extreme thinness is favored, and slim hips and small breasts go along with this.
But that is hot. For men as well as for women.

http://img65.imageshack.us/img65/830/016zh2.jpg

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/5273/42mv1.jpg

http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/339/jarrod127im3.jpg

http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/4829/llololxn9.jpg

I suppose by ultra-thin you mean anorexic though, and that is indeed repulsive.


I also have a problem with people who use body lotions/creams. It's their choice if they want ridiculously soft, smooth skin, but they pay the price when they get older. Oh yeah, wrinkles like you've never seen. My grandma was one such victim.
You lie! :eek:


There's being slim in the sense of keeping fit, but starving oneself is not healthy and I am of the opinion that healthiness is the main factor in attractiveness.
Yes, I draw the line there too. Looking fit and slim is hot, but looking like a walking corpse is definitely not.

For example, I think the diet/weight-loss thing is actually driven by the profit motive more than most people think. If you can convince women that they are supposed to be impossibly thin, then they're going to be dieting pretty much forever and ever trying to reach that image, and you can sell them all sorts of glorious products to help them in their never-ending quest to become something they cannot possibly be.
Perhaps, but profit can only be made so long as demand is there. Women, as consumers, need to wake up to the fact that dieting will not necessarily make them more attractive, and that most women in adverts have been touched up. How? Perhaps by asking their target males what they find attractive, to begin with.

But that is hot. For men as well as for women.
http://img487.imageshack.us/img487/339/jarrod127im3.jpg

Nope. And that boy just proves that men is where it's at, not kids.

Nope. And that boy just proves that men is where it's at, not kids.
I think he's around 20. You don't find him attractive in the least? :confused:

I think he's around 20. You don't find him attractive in the least? :confused:

I didn't think any of those pics were attractive.

I didn't think any of those pics were attractive.
I wouldn't expect most to. I simply have a bit of a fetish for rather thin people.

I think he's around 20. You don't find him attractive in the least? :confused:Please tell me you're not serious?

Incidentally, you're sure you're actually gay & not just into ugly young girls? - Because that's what that guy resembles, if you ask me.

I thought there'd be more females here.. weird...

aye, me too. maybe they're messing with us and voting as males.

Please tell me you're not serious?
Perfectly serious.

Incidentally, you're sure you're actually gay & not just into ugly young girls? - Because that's what that guy resembles, if you ask me.
He's hardly ugly (and besides, it's for his body he was posted). However, if he's not to your taste, then how about this guy?

http://www.jurgita.com/images_new/models/M/portfolio-picture/w478xh1000/Shaun-Dewet-10486-10.jpg

He's hardly ugly (and besides, it's for his body he was posted). However, if he's not to your taste, then how about this guy?Hahaha, seriously? S/he looks even more like a girl!

But keep posting pics, even if it's fuck ugly girlyboys. It's been way too long since we had a stud thread on here. I'd help but I'm pretty sure the pics I have leaves too little to the imagination :p

Hahaha, seriously? S/he looks even more like a girl!
Don't be ridiculous. He is quite clearly male. Here's another of him:

http://img252.imageshack.us/img252/7610/jarrod052ud3.jpg

But keep posting pics, even if it's fuck ugly girlyboys. It's been way too long since we had a stud thread on here. I'd help but I'm pretty sure the pics I have leaves too little to the imagination :p
Would you honestly assert the second guy I posted is fuck ugly? ;) He is an exact replica of a Russki guy I had a crush on.

i asked moderation if i could start a stud thread a while ago. they said no :(. but then it was just after they shut down a babe thread.

I'm a female bisexual. Prefer women. Actually, I hate to admit it, but I'm in the closet. Really I don't think many of my friends would approve of me being gay (yes, I know. I should find different friends.)

I do enjoy the act of sex with guys, if I can find a guy that doesn't make my skin crawl. No offense to men at all, I just have a rather strong reaction to physical flirtation sometimes. It's gotten worse with age, I don't know why.

Meh. Hooray for sexual confusion!!!!

at least you have some sort of idea, I am still confused, I like one person, that's it, nobody else. What does that mean? nobody answers.

Maybe you could like other people, but stop yourself psychologically? Or maybe your attraction is entirely due to factors other than physicality? With our limited knowledge not much we can say. Or do you just want a label for that specific situation?

I'm a female bisexual. Prefer women. Actually, I hate to admit it, but I'm in the closet. Really I don't think many of my friends would approve of me being gay (yes, I know. I should find different friends.)

I do enjoy the act of sex with guys, if I can find a guy that doesn't make my skin crawl. No offense to men at all, I just have a rather strong reaction to physical flirtation sometimes. It's gotten worse with age, I don't know why.

Meh. Hooray for sexual confusion!!!!

at least you have some sort of idea, I am still confused, I like one person, that's it, nobody else. What does that mean? nobody answers.

at least you have some sort of idea, I am still confused, I like one person, that's it, nobody else. What does that mean? nobody answers.

Monosexual. *nodnod*

Alternatively, considering you manage to only like one person and be married to them, fuckin' lucky.

Would you honestly assert the second guy I posted is fuck ugly? ;) He is an exact replica of a Russki guy I had a crush on.

he looks like a woman.

at least you have some sort of idea, I am still confused, I like one person, that's it, nobody else. What does that mean? nobody answers.

*assuming said person is Mr. Smunk* Why worry? Now if you only liked one person who lived on the other side of the world or something, then you'd have problems.

Don't be ridiculous. He is quite clearly male. Here's another of him.Yes, yes. Impossible to mistake for a girl.. If the lighting's good, you're sober, and he's talking in a deep voice. Ok the blonde guy is clearly male, but it's equally clearly not something I'd ever associate with a man.


Would you honestly assert the second guy I posted is fuck ugly? ;) He is an exact replica of a Russki guy I had a crush on.The one in the white dress? .. There's no accounting for taste, is there :p

I prefer guys with a bit of muscle. The teenage/childlike androgynous ones you're posting is.. Well, it almost looks criminal, and not the least bit appealing.

at least you have some sort of idea, I am still confused, I like one person, that's it, nobody else. What does that mean? nobody answers.

It's a fairly unique quandry. Maybe it's that once in a millenia "true love?" Maybe you find no one else attractive because you have a soul mate and found that soul mate.

:confused:

I didn't know I had a romantic bone in my body. Must be all the Meatloaf I've been listening to.

::curses Jim Steinman::

Maybe you could like other people, but stop yourself psychologically? Or maybe your attraction is entirely due to factors other than physicality?
I find other people physically attractive, but not sexually attractive......
http://www.abcmedianet.com/showcontent/primetime/greys/greys_i/knight.jpg
he is pretty.


With our limited knowledge not much we can say. Or do you just want a label for that specific situation?
probably.



Monosexual. *nodnod*
yay!

Alternatively, considering you manage to only like one person and be married to them, fuckin' lucky.
don't I know it.

Damn, I'm boring.

OK, people keep talking about "physical attraction" and "sexual attraction" as different things. What do they mean? It's probably something simple, I just want to be clear.

Yes, yes. Impossible to mistake for a girl.. If the lighting's good, you're sober, and he's talking in a deep voice. Ok the blonde guy is clearly male, but it's equally clearly not something I'd ever associate with a man.
The typical macho stereotype? Me neither. However, I never said any of these guys fit that role. Post what you'd find hot.

The one in the white dress?
:rolleyes:

.. There's no accounting for taste, is there :p
Of course not. I wouldn't say what I find hot is a universal standard of beauty.

I prefer guys with a bit of muscle. The teenage/childlike androgynous ones you're posting is.. Well, it almost looks criminal, and not the least bit appealing.
I prefer neotenic guys facially, accompanied by rather thin bodies, although I am definitely inclined to more rugged men as well; this varies with my moods. I'm open-minded in my preferences.

OK, people keep talking about "physical attraction" and "sexual attraction" as different things. What do they mean? It's probably something simple, I just want to be clear.

I define it as such:
physical attraction: Someone I find aesthetically pleasing to look at.
sexual attraction: Someone, given no mitigating circumstances, I'd bone .

Sometimes a person falls into both catagories, sometimes not. Sometimes I find myself sexually attracted to someone I find physically repulsive.

OK, people keep talking about "physical attraction" and "sexual attraction" as different things. What do they mean? It's probably something simple, I just want to be clear.

I can appreciate beauty, and I can think people look good, but I don't have that drive to have sex with them that I associate with sexual attraction, in fact, no matter how pretty I think they are the thought of having any kind of sexual contact with them disgusts me.

see? I am screwed up.

Europa, are you trying to overload our minds with blonde boys? :p

he is pretty. Ugly hair though.

Europa, are you trying to overload our minds with blonde boys? :p
No, merely broaden your horizons, to use a cliche euphemism. :)

I can appreciate beauty, and I can think people look good, but I don't have that drive to have sex with them that I associate with sexual attraction, in fact, no matter how pretty I think they are the thought of having any kind of sexual contact with them disgusts me.

see? I am screwed up.

Well, I'd say the disgust is your answer. A lack of desire is not the same thing as disgust. I'd say there is some kind of psychological barrier preventing you from feeling sexually attracted to such people. I'm no expert of course; just giving you food for thought.

I'm bisexual - but attracted to guys more often. I used the "Bi - prefer guys" (or whatever) option on the poll, but that's not the way I would put it. It's not so much a preference as a frequency. I don't find the guys who I am attracted to more attractive than the women I'm attracted to. It's just that, if you pick a random man and a random woman, I'm probably more likely to be attracted to the man.

Sort of like this: I don't prefer ice cream over yogurt, but there are more flavors of ice cream that I like than there are flavors of yogurt that I like. =)

And, of course, my main attraction is to my fiance - and he's the only one I actually want to act on my attractions with.

No, merely broaden your horizons, to use a cliche euphemism. :)
My lack of attraction to blonde boys still stand. They're too bright for me.

Ugly hair though.

he had a horrible haircut for a while. :p

I didn't think any of those pics were attractive.
You're just an old hag, what do you know? :p ZOMG! I kid, I kid!
aye, me too. maybe they're messing with us and voting as males.

I've considered this.

My lack of attraction to blonde boys still stand. They're too bright for me.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/IluvSeanCassidy/chanel-sunglasses-1-1.jpg

What do you think those are for? Tell you what, find yourself a pretty blonde guy, and I'll buy you a pair. :)

I'm switch between being straight and asexual.

So I guess I'm one of those "New Age" sexualities.

Well, I'd say the disgust is your answer. A lack of desire is not the same thing as disgust. I'd say there is some kind of psychological barrier preventing you from feeling sexually attracted to such people. I'm no expert of course; just giving you food for thought.

I am not much worried about it, except for when people want some type of definition of what I prefer. I want the one I want, and the one I want wants me, so life is good.

http://i12.photobucket.com/albums/a218/IluvSeanCassidy/chanel-sunglasses-1-1.jpg

What do you think those are for? Tell you what, find yourself a pretty blonde guy, and I'll buy you a pair. :)
Wait...so if I get myself a nice blonde boy, you'll buy me a pair of pretty sunglasses? Deal. I'll be billing you in about two weeks.

I am Bi with a strong preference for women. However many people would call me straight because I only find men who look like women attractive. The only part I like about men is the penis.

So call that what you want.

I am not much worried about it, except for when people want some type of definition of what I prefer. I want the one I want, and the one I want wants me, so life is good.

No, I wasn't suggesting that you should be worried. :)

I define it as such:
physical attraction: Someone I find aesthetically pleasing to look at.
sexual attraction: Someone I'd bone given no mitigating circumstances.

Sometimes a person falls into both catagories, sometimes not.

Yes, they're separate, which is why many asexuals can experience physical and romantic attraction, or both, and yet no sexual attraction (since that's part of the definition.) I know that I don't experience sexual or romantic attraction, but I think I can experience some form of physical attraction, to a small extent. It's not really any different from admiring a statue or a work of art or a beautiful piece of nature. Of course pretty much the only people I even find aesthetically attractive have played the Phantom at one point or another (and I don't usually find them aesthetically attractive when they're not in the role, except in the cases below)...and while people are posting pictures of people they find attractive...

http://www.monstersandcritics.com/artman/uploads/phantom9.jpghttp://broadwayworld.com/columnpic/michael_crawford_1.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/thumb/e/e5/1962PotO-124.JPG/250px-1962PotO-124.JPG
http://www.thegoldenyears.org/claude_rains.jpg
http://imagecache2.allposters.com/images/pic/MMPH/170551~Lon-Chaney-Posters.jpghttp://www.ils.unc.edu/dpr/path/horrorfilms/Chaney.jpg

So...yeah...that might just be me...

Nope. And that boy just proves that men is where it's at, not kids.

Guy has creepy eyes. Ugh.

Perfectly serious.


He's hardly ugly (and besides, it's for his body he was posted). However, if he's not to your taste, then how about this guy?

http://www.jurgita.com/images_new/models/M/portfolio-picture/w478xh1000/Shaun-Dewet-10486-10.jpg

How old is he? Dear god he looks 12! Atleast find someone old enough to shave.

Wait...so if I get myself a nice blonde boy, you'll buy me a pair of pretty sunglasses? Deal. I'll be billing you in about two weeks.

Consumer whore.

What are you doing posting here? Shouldn't you be in school?

Wait...so if I get myself a nice blonde boy, you'll buy me a pair of pretty sunglasses? Deal. I'll be billing you in about two weeks.
There's a catch. You have to date him for one year. Not for symbolic purposes or anything - but to give me enough time to procure the glasses. :p

I am Bi with a strong preference for women. However many people would call me straight because I only find men who look like women attractive. The only part I like about men is the penis.

So call that what you want.
Although I feel absolutely no attraction whatsoever towards female members of the species, that is exactly how I can be towards guys I am attracted to at times - hence the preference for tall, skinny, neotenic (but not paedomorphic) guys. It wouldn't simply be their penis I'd be attracted to though.

The typical macho stereotype? Me neither. However, I never said any of these guys fit that role. Post what you'd find hot.I've been looking a bit, but there's not a lot to pick from. I don't know if you know the band Discipline, but their lead singer's smoking hot. Unfortunately I'm also pretty sure he's a homophobe.Of course not. I wouldn't say what I find hot is a universal standard of beauty.Same here, same here.I prefer neotenic guys facially, accompanied by rather thin bodies, although I am definitely inclined to more rugged men as well; this varies with my moods. I'm open-minded in my preferences.Neotenic (Hey, I just learnt a new word) guys turn me off, though having thought about it, the girls I've been with all were (and is) neotenic.

Couldn't find any decent pics of the Discipline guy either, but you can see him in action here (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyPJbs9Hkok) if you like.

Wow, this thread isn't even that old and there are hundreds of poll answers. I'm impressed.

for convienience sake you can consider me gay, though, since I think most gay guys are in a similar third gender catagory, even if they're using male pronouns.Yeah, I know what you mean.

So you're saying that men tend to like women with no breasts, small hips and under four foot tall?Like a shrunken Keira Knightley?

Like a shrunken Keira Knightley?

Not exactly; she has more of a "Concentration Camp" look to her/

So NS is disproportionately male and gay, and liberal enough to have people who might otherwise identify as "straight" acknowledge the non-exclusivity of their sexual attraction.

Interesting - though certainly the "male" part comes as no surprise.

I can appreciate beauty, and I can think people look good, but I don't have that drive to have sex with them that I associate with sexual attraction, in fact, no matter how pretty I think they are the thought of having any kind of sexual contact with them disgusts me.

see? I am screwed up.

And there I thought that was normal when you love somebody. Although I'm probably not 'disgusted', just not interested... Remembers me of when a friend once asked if I had a crush on a female friend of mine - I was somehow surprised he would think that, although in some abstract way, I concluded she was, indeed, beautiful... I still never thought of her as an object* of sexual attraction...

But then again, I never quite understood the apparently common concept of cheating either. (Then again, maybe that would change if I had been together with somebody for many years? No experience in that, I'm afraid.)


* no dehumanisation intended

I can appreciate beauty, and I can think people look good, but I don't have that drive to have sex with them that I associate with sexual attraction, in fact, no matter how pretty I think they are the thought of having any kind of sexual contact with them disgusts me.

see? I am screwed up.

i think that's pretty normal for someone in a loving commited relationship that the want to remain in for as long as possible. one of my friends says the same thing, she can appreciate how other men are attractive but the thought of having sex with anyone other than her boyfriend is repulsive to her.

So NS is disproportionately male and gay, and liberal enough to have people who might otherwise identify as "straight" acknowledge the non-exclusivity of their sexual attraction.

Interesting - though certainly the "male" part comes as no surprise.

Nor is the liberal, that's pretty old news.

So NS is disproportionately male and gay, and liberal enough to have people who might otherwise identify as "straight" acknowledge the non-exclusivity of their sexual attraction.

Interesting - though certainly the "male" part comes as no surprise.

An overwhelming majority of males identify as straight, females a majority identify as not straight.


I smell closet cases!

I've been looking a bit, but there's not a lot to pick from. I don't know if you know the band Discipline, but their lead singer's smoking hot. Unfortunately I'm also pretty sure he's a homophobe.
He reminds me a little of a Nazi skinhead. :p On the basis of probability, he probably is homophobic. Not bad looking though.

Same here, same here.Neotenic (Hey, I just learnt a new word) guys turn me off, though having thought about it, the girls I've been with all were (and is) neotenic.
It simply means a tendency towards youthfulness. The greater extreme is paedomorphic, when one is literally child-like in facial (and bodily) structure (incidentally, being very long and thin does not make one paedomorphic - fat, short limbs does). Are you male or female bi?

Not exactly; she has more of a "Concentration Camp" look to her/Because she's excessively skinny?

An overwhelming majority of males identify as straight, females a majority identify as not straight.

I smell closet cases!Ah, so that's what that is.

Nor is the liberal, that's pretty old news.

Also true.

female bi of the ambiguous persuasion- I prefer sex with girls and relationships with males.

I really do wish more guys could admit to liking other guys every once in a while.

An overwhelming majority of males identify as straight, females a majority identify as not straight.

Male bisexuality is still a whole lot more taboo than female bisexuality is.

Also interesting is that both with males and females, far more self-identified bisexuals say that they prefer the opposite sex than that they prefer the same.

I really do wish more guys could admit to liking other guys every once in a while.

Difference between a straight guy and a bi-curious guy is a six pack, and a surreptitiously placed viagra.

I am rather startled by how few straight women there are on NSG. Apparently I am some sort of rare and exotic creature here. :)

I am rather startled by how few straight women there are on NSG. Apparently I am some sort of rare and exotic creature here. :)That's why the women here have such huge fanclubs. ;)

I am rather startled by how few straight women there are on NSG. Apparently I am some sort of rare and exotic creature here. :)

I honestly think that purely straight or purely gay guys/gals are indeed in the minority.

94 straight men, 7 straight women. What a pool.

I think he's around 20. You don't find him attractive in the least? :confused:

I don't find him particularly attractive, no. This is more what I'm talking about:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8157/55780083a12002bta7hv.jpg

http://www.gerryscorner.it/_immagini_forum/home_new/home_forum_r1_c1.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h299/andimissyoulikehell/jippie/butler7a.jpg

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i think that's pretty normal for someone in a loving commited relationship that the want to remain in for as long as possible. one of my friends says the same thing, she can appreciate how other men are attractive but the thought of having sex with anyone other than her boyfriend is repulsive to her.

Wow, in the same minute... great minds and all that. :)

I don't find him particularly attractive, no. This is more what I'm talking about:I take it someone saw the 300?

I take it someone saw the 300?

No kidding. I had such a boner all the way through. Now, I have a Gerard Butler obsession. I even daydreamed about him earlier. *sigh*

I don't find him particularly attractive, no. This is more what I'm talking about:

http://img242.imageshack.us/img242/8157/55780083a12002bta7hv.jpg

http://www.gerryscorner.it/_immagini_forum/home_new/home_forum_r1_c1.jpg

http://i67.photobucket.com/albums/h299/andimissyoulikehell/jippie/butler7a.jpg

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Now he's seriously tasty, don't care for the full beard but he does look hot with a bit of scruff. Good shoulders too.

Now he's seriously tasty, don't care for the full beard but he does look hot with a bit of scruff. Good shoulders too.

You should see his abs, oh, and his ass! Just makes you want to crotch stab it.

You should see his abs, oh, and his ass! Just makes you want to crotch stab it.

I'm thinking I need to hit the movies. Don't suppose they mention that Spartans were known to pair up male lovers in the army did they?

He reminds me a little of a Nazi skinhead. :p On the basis of probability, he probably is homophobic. Not bad looking though.He's an anti-Nazi, just like every other real skinhead. The reason I'm pretty sure he's a homophobe, is because he's a rightwinger and they tend to be. I haven't asked him though.It simply means a tendency towards youthfulness. The greater extreme is paedomorphic, when one is literally child-like in facial (and bodily) structure (incidentally, being very long and thin does not make one paedomorphic - fat, short limbs does). Are you male or female bi?I'm a man.
Anyway, I guess I go for neotenic (not paedoplasticphantastic) chicks, but definitly not so with men. There have been exceptions, but I prefer a man whose able to kick my ass when I get out of line, and older guys (35-45ish types) who reeks of testosterone just drives me crazy.

Amazing I've ended up with a woman, really. Not that I've ever given it any thought, but if I had, I don't think I would've imagined myself imagining myself growing old with a woman... Prolly didn't make sense, but who cares.

I'm thinking I need to hit the movies. Don't suppose they mention that Spartans were known to pair up male lovers in the army did they?

It's disgustingly heterosexual (excuse the tautology) and completely ignores Spartan homosexualism, but there's plenty of almost nude guys to gawk at so it's double-edged that way.

Yes, they're separate, which is why many asexuals can experience physical and romantic attraction, or both, and yet no sexual attraction (since that's part of the definition.) I know that I don't experience sexual or romantic attraction, but I think I can experience some form of physical attraction, to a small extent. It's not really any different from admiring a statue or a work of art or a beautiful piece of nature. Of course pretty much the only people I even find aesthetically attractive have played the Phantom at one point or another (and I don't usually find them aesthetically attractive when they're not in the role, except in the cases below)...and while people are posting pictures of people they find attractive...

So...yeah...that might just be me...

Or they could just be hyposexual. They are still romantically attracted to others like normal people, but they dont have a sex drive (or a very low one.)

I honestly think that purely straight or purely gay guys/gals are indeed in the minority.

Heh, well, it's certainly true in my social circle. I am actually the only one of my close female friends who is not bi. It makes me the butt of a lot of jokes regarding my "unnatural," "unhealthy," or "abnormal" feelings for men. :p

I am neither joking or really dumb. I am serious. If I were attracted to men in general I would be straight, but I am not attracted to men, I am attracted to one man. If I were attracted to women I would be a lesbian, but I am not attracted to women. If I were attracted to nobody I would be asexual, but I am attracted to someone.

Seriously, I don't know how to vote on that poll.

hubby is a male, and you are attracted to him. so straight.


I like women, tho I am attracted to none... or none of them are attracted to me... :(

I don't find him particularly attractive, no. This is more what I'm talking about:

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http://www.popmatters.com/film/reviews/p/images/phantom-of-the-opera.jpg

*nods* (Though I only like him in the context of Phantom of the Opera...although I think he was too attractive for the role, which is one reason I prefer Lon Chaney...it was funny, I told some of my friends that he was attractive, and they didn't believe me because they had only seen him in Phantom of the Opera. Then they saw his picture without Phantom and they were just like...yeah...and then I just kind of said, "I don't really think he's as attractive when he's not the phantom..." That's probably just me, though...sorry for rambling...)

I am neither joking or really dumb. I am serious. If I were attracted to men in general I would be straight, but I am not attracted to men, I am attracted to one man. If I were attracted to women I would be a lesbian, but I am not attracted to women. If I were attracted to nobody I would be asexual, but I am attracted to someone.

Seriously, I don't know how to vote on that poll.

Monosexual?

You just have this need to be different than everyone else is all:p

It's disgustingly heterosexual (excuse the tautology) and completely ignores Spartan homosexualism, but there's plenty of almost nude guys to gawk at so it's double-edged that way.Xerxes was so fucking gay. I know they did that on purpose.

Xerxes was so fucking gay. I know they did that on purpose.

He was made androgynous. Just like all the "bad guys" were made black, brown, handicapped or deformed, or implicitly gay. As I said, it's disgustingly heterosexual and racist that way, but I still drooled.

He was made androgynous. Just like all the "bad guys" were made black, brown, handicapped or deformed, or implicitly gay. As I said, it's disgustingly heterosexual and racist that way, but I still drooled.

Yeah I'd read that on CNN, which means I likely won't watch it, hate to support something like that.

Yeah I'd read that on CNN, which means I likely won't watch it, hate to support something like that.

That's why bittorrent and other filesharing is so great; you can watch all sort of shit and never support it financially. It's win-win.

your poll is so biased!!! you didn't even think of those poor Metrosexuals :p

That's not a sexuality. That's a fashion trend.

Male - Straight


you didn't even think of those poor Metrosexuals :p

Queer as a $3 bill here.

Monosexual?

You just have this need to be different than everyone else is all:p

I am monosexual, that's my new orientation, I will claim it thus forth.

Did any think of Asexual yet?

I am monosexual, that's my new orientation, I will claim it thus forth.

Now to start struggling for equality.

I am monosexual, that's my new orientation, I will claim it thus forth.

Hmmm.... but that could be taken to mean "attracted to only one gender" in the same way that "bisexual" means "attracted to two genders". Still, if it's your word, it doesn't matter if it's etymologically ambiguous - roots do not determine meaning.

Now to start struggling for equality.

:D

I was wondering about that. According to the definition somebody posted before, I actually am asexual, with occasional flashes of straightness.


that must be awkward at times

Did any think of Asexual yet?

I was wondering about that. According to the definition somebody posted before, I actually am asexual, with occasional flashes of straightness.

Hmmm.... but that could be taken to mean "attracted to only one gender" in the same way that "bisexual" means "attracted to two genders". Still, if it's your word, it doesn't matter if it's etymologically ambiguous - roots do not determine meaning.

my whole life is somewhat ambiguous ;)

Yeah I'd read that on CNN, which means I likely won't watch it, hate to support something like that.

I haven't seen the movie yet, but I doubt this would demonstrate any kind of prejudice on the part of the filmmakers. What people seem to forget (or maybe they don't know) is that Frank Miller put the story together as if it were told by a Spartan. Given that, racism and portrayal of the enemies as weak, feminine, or handicapped is probably appropriate - as the Spartans would have viewed most others with derision - particularly others with such traits.

Has anyone else noticed that, not taking into account the "New Age" category, there are more bisexual guys on NSG than there are girls, in total?
It's 26 to 23, by my count.

I'm sorry, I just found that a little amusing.

Or they could just be hyposexual. They are still romantically attracted to others like normal people, but they dont have a sex drive (or a very low one.)

It's possible, but having a sex drive doesn't rule out asexuality, as asexuality just rules out being sexually attracted to anyone, not having a sex drive. As far as I have read on AVEN, there are plenty of asexuals who actually have sex drives. I'm not one of them, I don't really have a sex drive and the most I ever really have is some aesthetic attraction (I don't have romantic nor sexual attraction), so I don't really know how to explain how it feels or anything, but you could check out the AVEN website and forums for more information. It's www.asexuality.org.

I don't find him particularly attractive, no. This is more what I'm talking about:
Oh, well he suits me just fine too. :) I haven't got one specific type.

No kidding. I had such a boner all the way through. Now, I have a Gerard Butler obsession. I even daydreamed about him earlier. *sigh*
Aside from the eyecandy, is it worthwhile seeing? Is the eyecandy worthwhile glancing at for that matter?

He's an anti-Nazi, just like every other real skinhead. The reason I'm pretty sure he's a homophobe, is because he's a rightwinger and they tend to be.
Right-wing in what sense?

Anyway, I guess I go for neotenic (not paedoplasticphantastic) chicks, but definitly not so with men. There have been exceptions, but I prefer a man whose able to kick my ass when I get out of line, and older guys (35-45ish types) who reeks of testosterone just drives me crazy.
Yes, I also come across that preference at times in myself, though I limit it to 40. Sort of like a rape fetish. Especially someone like either of these guys:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/8555/5173821551321895i3tt7.jpg

http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio2/images/artists/gmichael/gm_gallery6.jpg

Hmmm.... but that could be taken to mean "attracted to only one gender" in the same way that "bisexual" means "attracted to two genders". Still, if it's your word, it doesn't matter if it's etymologically ambiguous - roots do not determine meaning.

would unisexual be more accurate?

would unisexual be more accurate?Perhaps, though it might confuse people, as unisex typically means 'suited for both genders'.

would unisexual be more accurate?

Uni- and mono- mean the same thing. Uni- comes from Latin, whereas mono- was originally Greek.

Uni- and mono- mean the same thing. Uni- comes from Latin, whereas mono- was originally Greek.

oops, i thought there might be a distinction along the lines of mono meaning simply one of something (so it could mean one group) and uni meaning a single individual.

Perhaps, though it might confuse people, as unisex typically means 'suited for both genders'.

good point, although that seems to be a misused word. should be omnisex maybe.

would unisexual be more accurate?

It's sounds too much like an alternate form of transportation.

It's sounds too much like an alternate form of transportation.

heh! does too :P

It's sounds too much like an alternate form of transportation.

:p

It's sounds too much like an alternate form of transportation.Do you know how to ride a unisexual?
I can never seem to balance properly.

Do you know how to ride a unisexual?
I can never seem to balance properly.

i'd guess you need to ask mr. smunkee for some tips ;)

Oh, well he suits me just fine too. :)Yups, he looked fairly edible.Right-wing in what sense?He's Conservative as far as I know.Yes, I also come across that preference at times in myself, though I limit it to 40. Especially someone like either of these guys [...]Maybe I'm just a little older than you? Anyway, if I didn't know how GM carries himself, I'd agree. I do though, so I can't. The other guy's damn cute though. Love that look on his face.

Anyway, if I didn't know how GM carries himself, I'd agree. I do though, so I can't. Kinda sad isn't it, how some people go speeding past the line of trashy?

Kinda sad isn't it, how some people go speeding past the line of trashy?Indeed. Then again, if they didn't I might be trying to watch TV instead of NSG while I work, and I'm pretty sure that'd be a lot harder.

*Sigh*

Almost can't wait to get back in construction. All this eco-hippie shite might be good for the sole, but it gets boooooring. And I kind of miss watching my lover sleep.

He's Conservative as far as I know.
Capitalist conservative or full-blown Republican-style conservative? In the latter case, you'd probably be correct.

Maybe I'm just a little older than you?
Could be. :D I'm 20, so 45 would be over double my age.

Anyway, if I didn't know how GM carries himself, I'd agree. I do though, so I can't. The other guy's damn cute though. Love that look on his face.
I'm not too familiar with GM in general, so he's still suitable as eyecandy. The other guy is Sebastian Rulli. Quite gorgeous. :)

This thing still time-wapring like the first 6 pages that there only were last night?

You lie! :eek:

Not in the slightest. Why do you think that people who never use cosmetics tend to look better as they age than people who do?

Please note that I'm also not a fan of makeup or lipstick. Bleurgh.

Capitalist conservative or full-blown Republican-style conservative? In the latter case, you'd probably be correct. I said Conservative. Joost and the rest of the band are Dutch. Nobody outside the US are insane enough to be Republican. That said, I don't know the guy, I just had a few beers with him in Germany once years ago. He's obviously not RASH or anything of the sort, but beyond that I'm in no position to speculate. Don't let me stereotype him to death, send him an email or something. He seemed like a decent enough bloke. Could be. :D I'm 20, so 45 would be over double my age. Hehe, yups. I'm a bit older than you. Messed around with a guy that age when I was 20 though. It's among the few things I regret.I'm not too familiar with GM in general, so he's still suitable as eyecandy. The other guy is Sebastian Rulli. Quite gorgeous. :)I can't be objective about GM. But that Sebastian guy is cute as hell. Not my type at all, but damn he's pretty. Ack! I'm supposed to be working here, not Googling hot guys! Good thing the girl's not awake to make me miserable about it :p This thing still time-wapring like the first 6 pages that there only were last night?This reply was brought to you by TimeShavings Inc ©3064.

Not in the slightest. Why do you think that people who never use cosmetics tend to look better as they age than people who do?

Please note that I'm also not a fan of makeup or lipstick. Bleurgh.
Well I only use facial cleansers, lip gloss and concealers (and maybe eyepencil), so no biggy! :D

I said Conservative. Joost and the rest of the band are Dutch. Nobody outside the US are insane enough to be Republican.
Yes, I noticed now. Nothing connotes insane conservatism as well as "Republican" does though. :) I'll leave his position on homosexuals open to conjecture.

Hehe, yups. I'm a bit older than you. Messed around with a guy that age when I was 20 though. It's among the few things I regret.
Why do you regret it, if I may ask?

I can't be objective about GM. But that Sebastian guy is cute as hell. Not my type at all, but damn he's pretty. Ack! I'm supposed to be working here, not Googling hot guys! Good thing the girl's not awake to make me miserable about it :p
He combines rugged with pretty. :) There's (nearly) no limit to what I'd let him do to me.

Well I only use facial cleansers, lip gloss and concealers (and maybe eyepencil), so no biggy! :DYou're an EMU :eek: Why do you regret it, if I may ask?You may, and if you're really curious I'll let you know in a TG. Otherwise let's just say inequal power relations can turn surprisingly nasty.He combines rugged with pretty. :) There's (nearly) no limit to what I'd let him do to me.Or for that matter; what I'd do to him :D

You're an EMU :eek:
EMU? :) If you meant Emo, no, I'm not.

You may, and if you're really curious I'll let you know in a TG. Otherwise let's just say inequal power relations can turn surprisingly nasty.
Go ahead and send it then.

Or for that matter; what I'd do to him :D
Or that. :)

There's a catch. You have to date him for one year. Not for symbolic purposes or anything - but to give me enough time to procure the glasses. :p
Damn. Does that mean I'll have to find a guy I can actually stand for a year? Alright, give me half a year then. You start working on the glasses now, and I'll present you with my beau in half a year's time. No way I'm passing up on offers of free sunglasses. :cool: :p

Damn. Does that mean I'll have to find a guy I can actually stand for a year? Alright, give me half a year then. You start working on the glasses now, and I'll present you with my beau in half a year's time. No way I'm passing up on offers of free sunglasses. :cool: :p
Fine. Just make sure he's bi, so when you get fed up with him, you can pass him along to me.

Fine. Just make sure he's bi, so when you get fed up with him, you can pass him along to me.
Are you TRYING to make the guy impossible for me to find? How about I find a nice non-blonde guy for me, and a nice gay blonde guy for you, and you give me those sunglasses?

Are you TRYING to make the guy impossible for me to find?
Kinda. :p

How about I find a nice non-blonde guy for me, and a nice gay blonde guy for you, and you give me those sunglasses?
That works. Get cracking then.

Kinda. :p

Evil.
That works. Get cracking then.
*cracks*

You may, and if you're really curious I'll let you know in a TG. Otherwise let's just say inequal power relations can turn surprisingly nasty.Surprisingly, for the most part, I've managed to avoid that sort of thing.

that must be awkward at times

Actually? It's really not. I'm too lazy to date, so it's never really been noticeable.