NationStates Jolt Archive

On March 11th we "spring forward" and have an hour of sleep stolen from us. Then in November we get to "fall back." I know there's a reason for doing this in March instead of April and changing in November instead of October, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why. In fact, I don't know why we do it at all.

I know it was instituted during WWII to save on electricity, but (like income taxes) once the war was over they just kept on. Why? And why the change now?

It's beneficial to farmers, who get an extra hour of sunlight during winter in which to milk their cows during the morning hours. Or something. Whatever, it just means that I get more sleep in October, and frankly that's nothing to sniff at. Even if they take it back in April :mad:

day light savings something poeple in my state voted no three times on but got stab in the back with last year
edit oh we only do it for summer and its only a three test of do it

Correction:
Everybody EXCEPT Arizona springs forward ;)
Ahhh, Mexico time.

Mexico has DST now.


EDIT: It's just a jump to the left....

Correction:
Everybody EXCEPT Arizona springs forward ;)
Ahhh, Mexico time.

Correction:
Everybody EXCEPT Arizona springs forward ;)
Ahhh, Mexico time.
...because the US is the only nation to have considered, let alone implemented, the daylight savings system.

Mexico has DST now.


EDIT: It's just a jump to the left....
Bah. People shouldnt go around changing these things >_>


...because the US is the only nation to have considered, let alone implemented, the daylight savings system.

OK, I should be more specific:
All you suckers in:
49/50 US states, all of the Canadian provinces except British Columbia (I think...my provinces arent very good :P), most of Mexico,Cuba, Haiti, Nicuragua, Portugal, Spain, the UK, France, the low countries, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Poland, the Balkans, the Baltic States, Russia, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Israel, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunesia, the Southern Brazilian provinces, Uruguay, Chile, Western Australia, southern Eastern Australia, and Nambia, plus whoever I forgot,
Leap forward.
We in Arizona stay the same.

Happy?

Here in New Mexico we also cut one end off our blanket and sew it on the other so that they get longer too.

1. World war one, not two.

2. You don't get any more daylight, you just fuck with your clock and wake-up time. Shit, you just wake up earlier.

Here in New Mexico we also cut one end off our blanket and sew it on the other so that they get longer too.

Good one. I still miss living in Arizona, where people are smart enough not to fall for the daylight savings time bullshit.

Stupid farmers. They bitch about government encroachment, but want all of *us* to change *our* clocks so they can pretend they're not waking up at four in the morning.

I really should get around to creating that hydroponic skyscraper. The trick is to place it in an area that's far below sea level so you can pump water downwards, thereby saving energy.

Stupid farmers. They bitch about government encroachment, but want all of *us* to change *our* clocks so they can pretend they're not waking up at four in the morning.

I really should get around to creating that hydroponic skyscraper. The trick is to place it in an area that's far below sea level so you can pump water downwards, thereby saving energy.

Smartest thing I've read today. Pat yourself on the back Mirk, for you intellectual superiority.

Bah. People shouldnt go around changing these things >_>




OK, I should be more specific:
All you suckers in:
49/50 US states, all of the Canadian provinces except British Columbia (I think...my provinces arent very good :P), most of Mexico,Cuba, Haiti, Nicuragua, Portugal, Spain, the UK, France, the low countries, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Poland, the Balkans, the Baltic States, Russia, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Israel, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunesia, the Southern Brazilian provinces, Uruguay, Chile, Western Australia, southern Eastern Australia, and Nambia, plus whoever I forgot,
Leap forward.
We in Arizona stay the same.

Happy?
this shows when it happen and who give it up
http://www.bom.gov.au/climate/averages/tables/dst_times.shtml

Smartest thing I've read today. Pat yourself on the back Mirk, for you intellectual superiority.

:(

Ok, funnel it downwards. It's still a good idea!

And farmers still suck. I think we're all united on that.

I used to love living in Arizona, I didn't have to adjust, it was awesome.

I hate daylight savings time.

:(

Ok, funnel it downwards. It's still a good idea!

And farmers still suck. I think we're all united on that.

Next time you eat anything think about it.

You did correct one error, just to make a larger one.

I don't know why they do it in Mexico, it's not like there's that much difference between summer and winter that close to the equator. Just the northern states would be understandable, but not the whole country.

It is not a farming thing.

The concept is that people will get up a little earlier (closer to dawn) and will then get off work a little earlier. That way they have an extra hour of daylight at the end of the day where they do not need to have the lights on. Brilliant!

Seriously, it is the dumbest idea ever.

It does not save any electricity, and in fact tends to waste more energy as people go driving around and such. The only people who benefit is business – Americans (and I doubt anyone else is that different) tend to spend that hour shopping or doing various other activities. The sports industry alone stands to make millions due to the boost in people getting a game in after work.

Household illumination is such a negligible portion of our energy usage that it will hardly save any power at all, meanwhile numerous studies have shown that is greatly increases fuel consumption as people drive a lot more.

It is a dumb idea, and I have never supported daylight savings time.
We should eliminate this whole changing clocks twice a year thing altogether.

This is a modern 24-hour world. Besides, if they were really that concerned about power consumption, they would just push for more energy efficiency and encourage people to just turn the lights off at night (just check out all the empty office buildings with the lights still on at 3am).

And my personal pet peeve, the local elementary school has flood lighting in the huge parking lot and every 15 feet along the perimeter of the school lighting the grounds up like daylight 24/7. That takes one hell of a lot of power.

I hate this whole hour moving thing.

It is nothing more than attempt by the fascists that rule us to reinforce their dominion over every aspect of our lives. I see no reason for it, or any reason why it should be observed. A free people would ignore the government and carry on as usual without paying any attention to it.

I will appreciate the extra hour of sunlight, surely.

It never used to bother me, but as I've gotten older I've found it increasingly difficult to fully adjust to DST.

It's never been a problem for me to adjust. It's a little bit annoying having the hour taken away now, but that's why it's done so you can have a lie in on Sunday morning. At least, it is here.

Spring forward - fall back.

Why do Americans call autumn -fall? Why did't they go the whole hog and give all the seasons childish names:-

Spring - growy lamb time
Summer - hot
Autumn - fall
Winter - cold

Spring forward - fall back.

Why do Americans call autumn -fall? Why did't they go the whole hog and give all the seasons childish names:-

Spring - growy lamb time
Summer - hot
Autumn - fall
Winter - cold

For much the same reason as you refuse to use inches, or the -ize ending.

On March 11th we "spring forward" and have an hour of sleep stolen from us. Then in November we get to "fall back." I know there's a reason for doing this in March instead of April and changing in November instead of October, but for the life of me, I can't figure out why. In fact, I don't know why we do it at all.

I know it was instituted during WWII to save on electricity, but (like income taxes) once the war was over they just kept on. Why? And why the change now?
We still have DST because of a massive worldwide zionist conspiracy to deprive non-jews of sleep - that's also why snoring exists. ;)

> (and I'm just kidding as usual)

we always have a big party when summertime switches to winter time. with a countdown and everything (also a pool wich is cool).
i honestly don't care that much, i'm pretty sure that i won't get enough sleep whatever time they use.

Meh, DST never bothered me.

Spring forward - fall back.

Why do Americans call autumn -fall?
because the leaves fall?

I know it was instituted during WWII to save on electricity, but (like income taxes) once the war was over they just kept on. Why? And why the change now?

It was brought in during World War One by the Lloyd George Government.

because the leaves fall?

Like I said - why not call winter 'cold'. They could also call autumn 'leaves change colour and flies die time'.

:(

Ok, funnel it downwards. It's still a good idea!

And farmers still suck. I think we're all united on that.

I like food. Farmers grow food. Farmers are the best. Go farmers. Besides it wasn't the farmers, it was industry. Screwing with the clocks meant there was more daylight during "normal" work hours. Instead of changing work hours they just screwed with the clock and it messes everyone up. Bah, a pox on industry.

Spring forward - fall back.

Why do Americans call autumn -fall? Why did't they go the whole hog and give all the seasons childish names:-

Spring - growy lamb time
Summer - hot
Autumn - fall
Winter - cold

LOL!!

Turning the clocks round doesn't bother me so much, as most of the timepieces I own are radio-timed (my alarm clock) or magic (laptop clock).

Why do Americans call autumn -fall? Why did't they go the whole hog and give all the seasons childish names:-

Because that is the time of the year when the leaves FALL from the tree. ;)

Bah. People shouldnt go around changing these things >_>




OK, I should be more specific:
All you suckers in:
49/50 US states, all of the Canadian provinces except British Columbia (I think...my provinces arent very good :P), most of Mexico,Cuba, Haiti, Nicuragua, Portugal, Spain, the UK, France, the low countries, Germany, Switzerland, Italy, Austria, Hungary, Poland, the Balkans, the Baltic States, Russia, Finland, Sweden, Norway, Denmark, Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia, Turkey, Jordan, Syria, Iraq, Israel, Lebanon, Egypt, Tunesia, the Southern Brazilian provinces, Uruguay, Chile, Western Australia, southern Eastern Australia, and Nambia, plus whoever I forgot,
Leap forward.
We in Arizona stay the same.

Happy?

No, not at all. Why do lump me together with all those Belgians and Luxemburgians while an equally small country like Denmark or Lebanon is being written seperately?

I like food. Farmers grow food. Farmers are the best. Go farmers. Besides it wasn't the farmers, it was industry. Screwing with the clocks meant there was more daylight during "normal" work hours. Instead of changing work hours they just screwed with the clock and it messes everyone up. Bah, a pox on industry.

Farmers are protectionist, arrogant snobs.

They play up their importance to us and ransom us for millions in farm subsidies every year. We should stop filling their pockets with tax payers money (that they then spend on fox hunting and supporting the Tories), liberalise trade regimes and concentrate on building up the agricultural sectors in developing nations.

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Farmers are protectionist, arrogant snobs.

They play up their importance to us and ransom us for millions in farm subsidies every year. We should stop filling their pockets with tax payers money (that they then spend on fox hunting and supporting the Tories), liberalise trade regimes and concentrate on building up the agricultural sectors in developing nations.

</rant>

Maybe the farmers in the UK do that, but the ones in America don't Fox hunt and they support the Democrats not the Tories. I have no idea what they spend their government subsidies on though. :)

because the leaves fall?

your trees do, only a small handfull do here

your trees do, only a small handfull do here

That's right. I forgot your seasons are "upside down." :eek:

That's right. I forgot your seasons are "upside down." :eek:

Does that mean that the leaves fall towards the trees instead of falling away from them? :eek: :p

Maybe the farmers in the UK do that, but the ones in America don't Fox hunt and they support the Democrats not the Tories. I have no idea what they spend their government subsidies on though. :)

If they're clever, they'll spend it on setting up grow-ops so they can make some real money...

If they're clever, they'll spend it on setting up grow-ops so they can make some real money...

:p cute.

On March 11th we "spring forward"Wait, what?
Could somebody reassure me that Europe only does so some time towards the end of March, please?

It confuses me enough as it is, I can't remember if I knew that the date varied, too. :(

Wait, what?
Could somebody reassure me that Europe only does so some time towards the end of March, please?

It confuses me enough as it is, I can't remember if I knew that the date varied, too. :(

Yes, Europe does it in the last weekend of march. However, I don't know what counts as the last weekend of march. Because it will be saturday the 31st, but sunday (when the clock actually jumps) is in April. So it might be the week before that :confused:

Maybe the farmers in the UK do that, but the ones in America don't Fox hunt and they support the Democrats not the Tories. I have no idea what they spend their government subsidies on though. :)

Yeah, I meant to go on a non-nation-specific rant, but that fell through.

As for American farm subsidies... I'd bet they end up with al-Qaeda. No-one would suspect the farmers of siding with the Islamists - its the perfect cover!!

Yes, Europe does it in the last weekend of march. However, I don't know what counts as the last weekend of march. Because it will be saturday the 31st, but sunday (when the clock actually jumps) is in April. So it might be the week before that :confused:

And now we know why pilots use GMT/UTC/Zlu Time.

Yeah, I meant to go on a non-nation-specific rant, but that fell through.

As for American farm subsidies... I'd bet they end up with al-Qaeda. No-one would suspect the farmers of siding with the Islamists - its the perfect cover!!

:eek: gets out gun...checks ammo...peeks out window at farmer next door...

Yes, Europe does it in the last weekend of march. However, I don't know what counts as the last weekend of march. Because it will be saturday the 31st, but sunday (when the clock actually jumps) is in April. So it might be the week before that :confused:Thank you!

And I think it'll definitely be a week before that, then.
I won't hear about until after the fact, anyway, just like every year, so eh.


I just noticed that in the OP it also says that the turn the clocks back in November in the US - would you mind reassuring me that we do that in October, please, while you're at it? :p

So... what time is it supposed to be, right now?

Thank you!

And I think it'll definitely be a week before that, then.
I won't hear about until after the fact, anyway, just like every year, so eh.


I just noticed that in the OP it also says that the turn the clocks back in November in the US - would you mind reassuring me that we do that in October, please, while you're at it? :p

Sure, I reassure you :p

So... what time is it supposed to be, right now?Whichever one you have in winter. In both the US and Europe.

Sure, I reassure you :pNoooooo, you have to do it in a reassuringly knowledgeable and believable way. Sheesh. :(

Here in Brazil, we enforce it on the southern states too. Those close to the Equador doesnt have it.

And I quite like it. In mid summer you get sun up to 9 p.m. You can enjoy the day much more. In mid winter it gets dark at 5 p.m, which sucks.

People who complain about it have to be stupid. Come on, its just one hour, how can you have problems adapting to it?

Whichever one you have in winter. In both the US and Europe.

Noooooo, you have to do it in a reassuringly knowledgeable and believable way. Sheesh. :(

Like providing sources and stuff? Sure, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_around_the_world#Europe

Happy now? :fluffle:

Like providing sources and stuff? Sure, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_around_the_world#Europe

Happy now? :fluffle:Yes. :fluffle:

See, if you just whine long enough, someone else is totally gonna do your research for you. :p

Oh, and it even answers your question from above: it's not the last weekend, it's the last Sunday.

Maybe it's a good thing my sleeping schedule is so fucked up.
'Course it is, and don't you ever doubt it.

Morning.:eek:
Oh boy, my time is even more fucked up than I thought. :(

Hurray, that means that my weekend away with friends at the end of this month is cut short by one hour :(
Hurray!

Oh,wait: :(

Edit: Holy crap, I'm warping like I'm posting in my own little time bubble. <.<

Maybe it's a good thing my sleeping schedule is so fucked up.

So... what time is it supposed to be, right now?

Morning.

Yes. :fluffle:

See, if you just whine long enough, someone else is totally gonna do your research for you. :p

Oh, and it even answers your question from above: it's not the last weekend, it's the last Sunday.

Hurray, that means that my weekend away with friends at the end of this month is cut short by one hour :(

Hurray!

Oh,wait: :(

Edit: Holy crap, I'm warping like I'm posting in my own little time bubble. <.<

Who needs DST when you're time warping? :p

'Course it is, and don't you ever doubt it.

Aye.

Who needs DST when you're time warping? :p

It's just a jump to the left...

It's just a jump to the left...

No, the time warping is mostly a jump upwards in the thread :p

For much the same reason as you refuse to use inches, or the -ize ending.
Because it's just dumb? ;) :p

Whichever one you have in winter. In both the US and Europe.

Noooooo, you have to do it in a reassuringly knowledgeable and believable way. Sheesh. :(

According to the article (see link), the clocks should be set forward this weekend and set back on November 4. Sorry.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/time-change-may-cause-computer-glitches/20070310115809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001

That's right. I forgot your seasons are "upside down." :eek:

Does that mean that the leaves fall towards the trees instead of falling away from them? :eek: :p
http://www.worth1000.com/emailthis.asp?entry=305131

Like providing sources and stuff? Sure, here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Daylight_saving_time_around_the_world#Europe

Happy now? :fluffle:

there's a list of who is and isn't currently on DST, and when it will start and end here....




http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/full.html?sort=1

Next time you eat anything think about it.

You did correct one error, just to make a larger one.

Ppt. In twenty years we'll have self-reproducing super-vegetables and delicious, vat-grown meat anyway.

And there's always good old fashioned cannibalism.

All joking aside, I have nothing against farmers, so long as they obey all laws governing the treatment of protected species and the non-usage of banned pesticides.

It serves absolutely no sane purpose and should be abolished immediately.

Interesting Fact: Iceland is on "Summer Time" all year.

According to the article (see link), the clocks should be set forward this weekend and set back on November 4. Sorry.

http://news.aol.com/topnews/articles/_a/time-change-may-cause-computer-glitches/20070310115809990001?ncid=NWS00010000000001


Not in Europe, sorry ;)