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Fora = welcome (in Brazilian)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070308/i/r1617249579.jpg
Welcome Bush

hmm

And the agreement was still signed.

The US and Brazi. will both benefit greatly from improving ties on ethanol.

Hey!

Remember how great a democracy Brazil is, how people can speak their minds? Bush said it!

I have a picture of Brazilian cops beating the shit out of a protester. I'm not sure whether or not I can post it, it isn't that bad, but still.

I love the sight of freedom.

Brazilean isn't a word. How do you say people from Brazil?

How do you say people from Brazil?

I guess you say people from Brazil.

Brazilean isn't a language, they speak Portuguese. Fora does not mean welcome. Boa Vinda is welcome, somewhat close to the spanish Benvienido.

In fact, I'd made a guess that 'fora' equates to 'fuera' ...or "Get out".

Where's AB when you need him?

In fact, I'd made a guess that 'fora' equates to 'fuera' ...or "Get out".

Indeed it is.

I guess you say people from Brazil.

It's Brazilian.

And Brazilians don't speak "Brazilian", unless they speak some sort of dialect of Portuguese.

And I'm not so sure that "Fora" means "welcome" in Portuguese, because Portuguese is very similar to Spanish and so they would probably say the Portuguese version on "bienevido" (sp?).

close to the spanish Benvienido.

Bienvenido.

Bienvenido.

Thank you! *goes to edit post*

How do you say people from Brazil?

Brazilian.

Just a spelling error.

Brazilian Reactions To The U.S. President: Then And Now (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/brazil-then-and-now/)

I believe fora means outside.

Fora does not mean welcome. ok..
How'bout "Viva"?

lets say "Fora" means "viva"

like in "Viva Bush" :D

so this pretty Brazilian girl painted her body to say "Viva Bush"

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070308/i/r1280094991.jpg
Viva Bush

ok..
How'bout Viva?
lets say "Fora" means "viva"

like in
Viva Bush
:D

It's dead, don't keep the joke flopping on the floor. Just club it.

It's dead, don't keep the joke flopping on the floor. Just club it.its not dead until Barbara Bush sings ;)

here.. more Brazilian girls saying "Viva Bush"

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070308/i/r2321322517.jpg

Jolt's being an arse and won't let me edit the post, but aaccording to this (http://www.freedict.com/onldict/onldict.php) "fora" means "outside", while "boa vinda" is "welcome". *nod*

its not dead until Barbara Bush sings ;)

here.. more Brazilian girls saying "Viva Bush"

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070308/i/r2321322517.jpg

Godwin.

Thread dead.

here.. more Brazilian girls saying "Viva Bush"

Yup, it's like the good ole' nazi rallies :o

Yup, it's like the good ole' nazi rallies :o

No it doesn't.

Yup, it's like the good ole' nazi rallies :o
Nazi? in what way? these uniforms do not look like the SS.. do they?
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070308/capt.xap10103082125.brazil_bush_protests_xap101.jpg

This has zero relevance to the topic, but since people are posting photos...

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/common/imagedata/0,1658,5412824,00.jpg
Making the most of it: A bodyboarder at Christmas Island jumps off the jetty at Flying Fish Cove yesterday, braving the surf whipped up by Cyclone Jacob. Picture: Andy Tyndall
From The Australian. (http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/)

Nazi? in what way? these uniforms do not look like the SS.. do they?
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070308/capt.xap10103082125.brazil_bush_protests_xap101.jpg

It's easy to charge undue police brutality when you are using select pictures to support your argumet, but from everything I've seen, the protestors haven't exactly been peaceful. Even beginning by mentioning the fact that Latin American protesters are notoriously violent. Makeshift projectile weapons are common amongst the crowds, and are being used against the police. The actions of the officers are warranted.

No it doesn't.

:rolleyes: you didn't see the Bu[nazi symbol]h I suppose?

In case you haven't noticed, I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't blame you for not noticing though :D

Nazi? in what way? these uniforms do not look like the SS.. do they?
http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/ap/20070308/capt.xap10103082125.brazil_bush_protests_xap101.jpg

http://www.geocities.com/vienna/strasse/8514/ss_officers.gif

You'd be surprised :eek: look at the security service chief! And, wait a moment... security service... police :eek: do I sense a connection?

:rolleyes: you didn't see the Bu[nazi symbol]h I suppose?

In case you haven't noticed, I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't blame you for not noticing though :D



http://www.geocities.com/vienna/strasse/8514/ss_officers.gif

You'd be surprised :eek: look at the security service chief! And, wait a moment... security service... police :eek: do I sense a connection?

Lurn sum'tin. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law)

Lurn sum'tin. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin's_law)

Let me beat a dead horse, won't you?

:rolleyes: you didn't see the Bu[nazi symbol]h I suppose?

In case you haven't noticed, I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't blame you for not noticing though :D

Yeah, I saw them. Doesn't make it look like a Nazi rally though for numerous, obvious reasons. And if you were being sarcastic (I knew you were being jovial about it though) you wouldn't have tried to justify your "joke".

[QUOTE=Seathornia;12411018]:rolleyes: you didn't see the Bu[nazi symbol]h I suppose?

In case you haven't noticed, I was being sarcastic. I wouldn't blame you for not noticing though :D /QUOTE]

Yeah, I saw them. Doesn't make it look like a Nazi rally though for numerous, obvious reasons. And if you were being sarcastic (I knew you were being jovial about it though) you wouldn't have tried to justify your "joke".

I'm not sure whether I should say sorry or what...

*leaves in a very confused state of mind*

...if it makes it any better, I do know that they meant that bush was the nazi and that they weren't supporting him, quite on the contrary.

I'm not sure whether I should say sorry or what...

*leaves in a very confused state of mind*

...if it makes it any better, I do know that they meant that bush was the nazi and that they weren't supporting him, quite on the contrary.

Huh? lol... I meant it wasn't like a Nazi rally mainly because of the location, atmosphere, colour & quality of the photo, participants, date and clothing among other reasons...

...

http://www.mondotees.com/ProductImages/Whatchoo.jpg

Confusion ensues!

*takes off his pants, throws them into the air and dances around in his boxers*

*takes notes*

When...confused...get...naked. Got it.

Huh? lol... I meant it wasn't like a Nazi rally mainly because of the location, atmosphere, colour & quality of the photo, participants, date and clothing among other reasons...

...

http://www.mondotees.com/ProductImages/Whatchoo.jpg

The nazis man! The nazis!

They're coming for you!

http://www.benfrank.net/nuke/ftaa112003/011police_brutality2.jpg

*follows the confused masses* :p

Just because my pants are gone, doesn't mean you can take advantage of meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!


*continues to dance*

Just because my pants are gone, doesn't mean you can take advantage of meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!


*continues to dance*

*takes pictures, posts on NSG*

Just because my pants are gone, doesn't mean you can take advantage of meeeeeeeeeeeee!!!!!!!!!!!


*continues to dance*

*Whips Andaluciae with a wet towel*
Quiet you!

*Whips Andaluciae with a wet towel*
Quiet you!

I think I'll take my shirt off...just for you!


*dances!*

Fora = welcome (in Brazilian)

http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/rids/20070308/i/r1617249579.jpg
Welcome Bush

that crowd doesn't look very friendly, and this report (http://english.pravda.ru/photo/report/bush-1528) i just stumbled upon begs to differ.

and fora is portuguese for 'out' or 'shame'.

Lol, I´m brazilian. "Fora" does actually means out, so that means people do want Bush out of the US.

I want to point that most of those people want BUSH out, not the US. Some people do hate the US, but the number of people who hate BUSH is far greater.

And yes, we do loved Clinton. I and many others do think it was one of the best viewed american presidents here in Brazil. You cant even compare him to Bush. BTW, lol, after it was know that Clinton got a blowjob, his popularity increase. Many, including I, really cant understand how a president can lose his job because of a blowjob, but a guy who use fake documents and lie to his entire nation gets a second term.

Also, here in Brazil, our democracy works in a diferent way than the US. In the US, at least as far as I know, there are only two major groups: The democrats and the republicans. But here in Brazil, you have everything: communists, socialists, anarchists, greens, democrats, religious groups. That means if you want to vote, you have tons of options. And also, you have tons of groups.

The problem of these protests is that many of these more radical groups join in just to create problem. So, you always have some people inside those 10.000 who are there just to create confusion and unrest. Usually the anarchists or the punks. They always cause problems, and they are usually the ones who get hammered down and imprisoned.

I dont need to say Brazil is a violent country. It is, and its diferent compared to the US. The cops cant be as reasonable as the americans ones, because sometimes you have guys here who run around with Ak-47´s and M16´s. Not to mention some have bazookas and even anti-aircraft machineguns :D

But, in general, brazilians are very open and democratic. But its also one of the countries with the most diverse population, both ethinicaly and in opinions.

BTW, the Nazi´s comparison, some people do think Bush blames all of the US problems on muslims, just like Germany did it with Jews.

that crowd doesn't look very friendly, and this report (http://english.pravda.ru/photo/report/bush-1528) i just stumbled upon begs to differ.

and fora is portuguese for 'out' or 'shame'.
http://english.pravda.ru/img/idb/photo/002-1926.jpg
Damn those pesky Brazilians..

where are the SS Brazilian Police when you need it?
where is the tear gas and tazers?

If Brazilians love bush then why'd they invent the Brazilian Bikini Wax?

If Brazilians love bush then why'd they invent the Brazilian Bikini Wax?

who knows

Brazilean is no more a language than Mexican. The people of Brazil speak portuguese if I'm not mistaken.

Thousands of protesters on the streets, police in riot gear, tear gas, beatings, general chaos... I suppose the Bush loving is surprising absent.

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"'

Sorry, I had to do it.

Brazilian Reactions To The U.S. President: Then And Now (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/brazil-then-and-now/)

I call Godwin on Brazil!

Fora means "get out" in this case. And police in Brazil is ALSO famous for its brutality, so we'd have to actually CHECK who started the fight instead of simply going "oh, the protesters did it".

Fora means "get out" in this case. And police in Brazil is ALSO famous for its brutality, so we'd have to actually CHECK who started the fight instead of simply going "oh, the protesters did it".

It is lacking in detail not surprisingly, either that article or a similar one I read (they are blurring in my mind) says police used tear gas and beat protesters with batons but gives no mention of why such force was needed. Only that it seems natural that protesters will go too far and the police naturally, will have to step in to pacify the rowdy crowd.

It is lacking in detail not surprisingly, either that article or a similar one I read (they are blurring in my mind) says police used tear gas and beat protesters with batons but gives no mention of why such force was needed. Only that it seems natural that protesters will go too far and the police naturally, will have to step in to pacify the rowdy crowd.

Not quite that simple here.

Brazilian Reactions To The U.S. President: Then And Now (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/brazil-then-and-now/)
I found a rather cute little comment to that.
Theres NOT a country in the world that Bush would not get BOOOhded at …….. even if Bush went to antartica the Penquins would demonstrate

Whats its like having a President that aint welcome ANYWHERE in the world


:p

I found a rather cute little comment to that.


:p
This comment confused me.

Must be very embarasing for Americans having a president who must be the most hated man in the world since the BIG BANG
There was a more hated man at the time of the Big Bang?

Donald Rumsfeld is giving the president his daily briefing. He concludes by saying: "Yesterday, 3 Brazilian soldiers were killed."

"OH NO!" the President exclaims. "That's terrible!"

His staff sits stunned at this display of emotion, nervously watching as the President sits, head in hands.

Finally, the President looks up and asks, "How many is a brazillion?"'LOL

when Bush visits.. the need for armed guards/SS/riot-police is ten-fold.

for the Brazil visit.. my guess is around 3-5000 presidential "bodyguards"..

obviously more than for Clinton.

Actually, this is my kind of protest: http://www.milenio.com/index.php/2007/03/09/48305/

It's in Spanish, but the picture says... everything that needs to be said.

This comment confused me.


There was a more hated man at the time of the Big Bang?

Yeah, it was retarded as crap, but I personally thought the part about the penguins was funny. :p

This thread is the lol.

In fact, I'd made a guess that 'fora' equates to 'fuera' ...or "Get out".

Where's AB when you need him?

Playing Madden on the PS2.

'Fora' does, indeed, mean get out and is the Portuguese equivalent of the Spanish 'fuera'. As various people have already stated.

The protesters shown here are the same ones that turn up at any political event with some slogan starting "fora". Normally it is the IMF that is their target, but at times it is a visiting head of state or even one of our own homegrown politicians.

I agree in the main with what Northern Borders has to say, but he misses one very significant fact. There is still a great deal of resentment towards the USA for the meddling in the internal politics of Brazil (as well as almost every other South and Central American country) that was carried out by the CIA in the 60s and 70s. It will take a very long time and a lot of very good behaviour (not forthcoming so far) from the USA for this to be put aside. Almost every family here has some member that 'disappeared' or was otherwise severely mistreated by the military dictatorships that the USA supported. While this is still in the collective consciousness the USA is a polemic subject.

There are some, strongly influenced by a heavily biased TV media group - Globo, that believe that the USA is still the land of the American dream. Other than these idealist romantics, however, the USA is most often seen as being the local neighborhood bully that likes to make others suffer.


As to the police violence. The BBC has this to say
Trouble broke out after a small group threw sticks and rocks at police, witnesses said. Police fired tear gas and rubber bullets towards demonstrators. They also used batons to subdue the protesters. Twenty people were injured, most of them police.
source - pics 7, 8 & 9 (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/in_pictures/6433977.stm)


So it seems that the overreaction of some posters here is just that, overreaction.

In picture 6 below, the T-shirt of the woman in the centre of the frame is that of MST. This claims to be a land redistribution movement, but when offered land that is not already cleared and prepared at someone elses cost, they don't accept it. They just invade productive farmland, destroying property, crops and livestock instead. They are part of the extreme left - so extreme that they are almost right again, and as such would inevitably protest anything to do with the USA.
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42660000/jpg/_42660129_landless.jpg

Fora means "get out" in this case. And police in Brazil is ALSO famous for its brutality, so we'd have to actually CHECK who started the fight instead of simply going "oh, the protesters did it".

The protesters were MST in the most part. You decide who started it given this information. You know enough about them to be able to make a reasonable assumption.

Bush needed 4.000 soldiers, policemen and bodyguards to spend 24 hours in Brazil.

Bush needed 4.000 soldiers, policemen and bodyguards to spend 24 hours in Brazil.yeah.. at least he this time he did not demand Windows to be changed in historical buildings (like he does some times)..

To be honest I did not see any window on any TV footage.. Bush was seen
all the time inside.. far from any window.

I believe fora means outside.
Sooo...they're asking if Bush is gay?


sorry
Brazilean is no more a language than Mexican. The people of Brazil speak portuguese if I'm not mistaken.

Welcome to two pages ago.

Sooo...they're asking if Bush is gay?



As the structure is an imperative, not a question, it seems more likely that they are insisting that he be 'outed'.

From what I understand there is quite a bit of divergence in the Portuguese language on either side of the Atlantic, so, if it strokes their ego, I'm willing to accept that 'Brazilian' is a language.

Once again Occeandrive is full of it. If Brazilians really liked bush so much why would they be famous for waxing it off?

Once again Occeandrive is full of it. If Brazilians really liked bush so much why would they be famous for waxing it off?

Welcome to...ah, skip it...

especially since I finally got that joke...

And, as AB pointed out, I fucked up my own...I really should try to get back to sleep...

From what I understand there is quite a bit of divergence in the Portuguese language on either side of the Atlantic, so, if it strokes their ego, I'm willing to accept that 'Brazilian' is a language.

That wouldnt be wise. If you did that, instead of speaking english in the US, you would be speaking american. You would be speaking mexican in Mexico. You would be speaking argentinian instead of spanish.

Overnight, you would create tons of languages, not that diferent from their mother tongue.

If Brazilians love bush then why'd they invent the Brazilian Bikini Wax?

To perform on the Gitmo inmates?

From what I understand there is quite a bit of divergence in the Portuguese language on either side of the Atlantic, so, if it strokes their ego, I'm willing to accept that 'Brazilian' is a language.The Brazilians do not mind calling it (their language) Portuguese.

BTW como estuvo vose Carnaval Mr ABagain ??
did you get to dance in-the-streets with the Cariocas?

I'm glad they love our leader, because that gives me hopes that one day we can unite, and I can have a flow of beautiful brazillian women coming into my dorm rooom :D

I'm glad they love our leader, because that gives me hopes that one day we can unite, and I can have a flow of beautiful brazillian women coming into my dorm rooom :Dif we unite.. we will become a bilingual Country.

.. I do not mind that.
But.. what will be the new name?
BrazUS ?

Bem vindo is "welcome" I think.

Bush is a scumbag, so I don't think they were saying "welcome bush"

Brazilian Reactions To The U.S. President: Then And Now (http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/09/brazil-then-and-now/)comment #17 is interesting

Bush: I am here in Brazil...
to complete a deal in the makin’ of ethanol. We are asking the Brazilian government to cut down more of that big forest they have so that they can grow more sugarcane which would help save the environment. Makes perfect sense to me.

CNN said today that Brazil has already burned big chunks of rain Forest to be able to have enough "alcol" for their cars..
They do not have any surplus to export for US or China.. not without burning more rain forest... massively

That is not true. We still have a lot of lands avaiable, and many of them are not even near the Rain Forest.

Btw, we have been using ethanol (alcool) for more than 20 years now.

That is not true. We still have a lot of lands avaiable, and many of them are not even near the Rain Forest.maybe CNN was misinformed.. *i am not holding my breath*


Btw, we have been using ethanol (alcool) for more than 20 years now.I know.
thumbs UP.

The protesters were MST in the most part. You decide who started it given this information. You know enough about them to be able to make a reasonable assumption.

Carajás...

From what I understand there is quite a bit of divergence in the Portuguese language on either side of the Atlantic, so, if it strokes their ego, I'm willing to accept that 'Brazilian' is a language.

It doesn't stroke our ego, and I don't think it's a fact yet, but that's what it's heading to, yes. There are already translations between Brazilian Portuguese and Portugal Portuguese, for instance. Ethymology does this.

That wouldnt be wise. If you did that, instead of speaking english in the US, you would be speaking american. You would be speaking mexican in Mexico. You would be speaking argentinian instead of spanish.

Overnight, you would create tons of languages, not that diferent from their mother tongue.

Brazilian and Portuguese accents differ more than US and English accents. So does vocabulary. Eventually, a point in which they are two different languages WILL be reached, but that's the natural course of any language.

I'm glad they love our leader, because that gives me hopes that one day we can unite, and I can have a flow of beautiful brazillian women coming into my dorm rooom :D

Sorry to disappoint, but women here aren't more or less beautiful than anywhere else. I, for one, welcome our Asian girl overladies. :D

Btw, we have been using ethanol (alcool) for more than 20 years now.

Most cars do use gasoline or, for trucks and buses, diesel, though.

In fact, I'd made a guess that 'fora' equates to 'fuera' ...or "Get out".

Where's AB when you need him?
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I always thought Brazilians mostly shaved down there...

Sorry to disappoint, but women here aren't more or less beautiful than anywhere else. I, for one, welcome our Asian girl overladies. :D
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