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Go figure!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/08/gingrich.affair.ap/index.html


Seems while ol' Newt was going after Clinton for his choice of humidors in the oval office Newt was doing some woman on the side.

Yeah, but see, he's gone and prostrated himself before the altar of Dobson and begged forgiveness, so it's all good now.

In other news, scientists claim that H2O, commonly known as water, has the quality of being wet.

Yeah, but see, he's gone and prostrated himself before the altar of Dobson and begged forgiveness, so it's all good now.

Of course, when the democratic president of the united states has an affair with a woman in his own office this is horrible, when the republican speaker has an affair with a woman while his wife is in the hospital recovering from cancer...well he's just a stray lamb who needs to find forgiveness in his heart.

All hail Dobson! Our Lord and Savior!

Of course, when the democratic president of the united states has an affair with a woman in his own office this is horrible, when the republican speaker has an affair with a woman while his wife is in the hospital recovering from cancer...well he's just a stray lamb who needs to find forgiveness in his heart.
AMEN.

And wow:

Gingrich argued in the interview, however, that he should not be viewed as a hypocrite for pursuing Clinton's infidelity.

"The president of the United States got in trouble for committing a felony in front of a sitting federal judge," the former Georgia congressman said of Clinton's 1998 House impeachment on perjury and obstruction of justice charges.

"I drew a line in my mind that said, 'Even though I run the risk of being deeply embarrassed, and even though at a purely personal level I am not rendering judgment on another human being, as a leader of the government trying to uphold the rule of law, I have no choice except to move forward and say that you cannot accept ... perjury in your highest officials."You're so brave, Newt!

I wonder how all the Newtzis will try to spin this.

Of course, when the democratic president of the united states has an affair with a woman in his own office this is horrible, when the republican speaker has an affair with a woman while his wife is in the hospital recovering from cancer...well he's just a stray lamb who needs to find forgiveness in his heart.

There is a huge difference between the two, and I can't understand why you just don't see it. You must be some kind of commiefaghippielibpinkoislamofascistterrorsympblameamericafirster.

I find it more than a little disturbing that so many in the Republican Party feel it necessary to debase themselves by sucking up to Dobson, Falwell and their ilk. It does not bode well for the way the 2008 campaign is going to be run. And I would like to say that I find Dobson's residence in Colorado an embarrassment on many levels.

so when is the republican party going to give up on its supporters figuring out that the whole thing has been one long joke at their expense? i mean, they seem to be getting pretty desperate with the hints they're dropping these days...

I am so suprised that I may have to post how suprised I actually am.

Nah, forget it.

does this confession mean that newt is testing the water for a potential presidential run?

His name has been mentioned. If not the top spot on the ticket, I can easily see him getting picked for VP.

a new word from poputonian (http://digbysblog.blogspot.com/2007/03/republican-stroke-thyself-by-poputonian.html)

typocrite ('tip-uh-krit noun): A typical Republican hypocrite.

1 : a typical Republican who fakes good by putting on a false appearance of virtue or religion
2 : a typical Republican who fakes good but acts in contradiction to his or her stated beliefs or feelings
3 : a typical Republican whose need for self-gratificaton extends to the public sphere

does this confession mean that newt is testing the water for a potential presidential run?

Whew at least he’s not gay :p

Whew at least he’s not gay :p

yet

I find it more than a little disturbing that so many in the Republican Party feel it necessary to debase themselves by sucking up to Dobson, Falwell and their ilk. It does not bode well for the way the 2008 campaign is going to be run. And I would like to say that I find Dobson's residence in Colorado an embarrassment on many levels.

You know all those stories you hear about Democratic candidates having to go abase themselves before the gay and women's rights groups, the anti-gun lobby and the NAACP in order to win the nomination? There's a sense that lately, the Dobsons on the right represent one-stop shopping for Republicans. If you can win the evangelicals, you can win the nomination--that's the conventional wisdom, anyway. I don't quite know how much I buy it, especially since there's been a recent migration away from the Dobsonite wing in the popular vote anyway.

We'll see how much stroke they have in the nominating process in 2008, which candidate they get behind. For the moment, they're sort of groping around for someone. They hate McCain, despite his recent pandering. They hate Giuliani's positions, and they don't think Romney is a real christian. They also think he's a flip-flopper on their pet issues. If someone like Brownback gets the nomination, they've got all the power. They'll also lose 40 states. If Giuliani gets it, then they've been set back a bit, and they've got a shot at winning, though make no mistake about it--it's an uphill battle for any Republican in 2008.

You know all those stories you hear about Democratic candidates having to go abase themselves before the gay and women's rights groups, the anti-gun lobby and the NAACP in order to win the nomination? There's a sense that lately, the Dobsons on the right represent one-stop shopping for Republicans. If you can win the evangelicals, you can win the nomination--that's the conventional wisdom, anyway. I don't quite know how much I buy it, especially since there's been a recent migration away from the Dobsonite wing in the popular vote anyway.

We'll see how much stroke they have in the nominating process in 2008, which candidate they get behind. For the moment, they're sort of groping around for someone. They hate McCain, despite his recent pandering. They hate Giuliani's positions, and they don't think Romney is a real christian. They also think he's a flip-flopper on their pet issues. If someone like Brownback gets the nomination, they've got all the power. They'll also lose 40 states. If Giuliani gets it, then they've been set back a bit, and they've got a shot at winning, though make no mistake about it--it's an uphill battle for any Republican in 2008.

True, the next GOP nominee definitely needs an endorsement from Dobson and his cronies. It will be interesting to see who gets it, especially, as you say, most of the front-runners seem to have feet of clay for one reason or another. I'd love to see Brownback get the nomination, though my favorite prior to 2006 was a Frist-Santorum ticket. Hell, Nazz, you and I could have beat those two!

True, the next GOP nominee definitely needs an endorsement from Dobson and his cronies. It will be interesting to see who gets it, especially, as you say, most of the front-runners seem to have feet of clay for one reason or another. I'd love to see Brownback get the nomination, though my favorite prior to 2006 was a Frist-Santorum ticket. Hell, Nazz, you and I could have beat those two!

I try to convince most Republicans that the pair I fear most is Tancredo-Hunter, but I suspect they don't believe me. ;)

Newt, you DOG! :p

Well, Bill and Newt are southern boys. You know what they say - they hang out with their wang out.

Newt, you DOG! :p

Well, Bill and Newt are southern boys. You know what they say - they hang out with their wang out.

Not always. Only when we can get away with it.:D

yet

Then he could just apply for a review with the Ted Haggard DeGayification Review Board.

:D

Newt Gingrich, the Leeroy Jenkins of the Republican Party.

are politicians really more hypocritical than average people or do they just get more publicity?

meh.

are politicians really more hypocritical than average people or do they just get more publicity?

meh.

They get more hype, and also, they have to impress a lot more people than me. I don't think I'll ever reach the point as to where my career will be decided upon how much I can convince millions of strangers that I honestly and deeply care for them and their values, so I don't think that I could ever actually be caught doing something as hypocritical as that.

are politicians really more hypocritical than average people or do they just get more publicity?
Most people don't have every stand they've ever taken summed up in soundbites and secreted in the storage closets of every news outlet in the country.

are politicians really more hypocritical than average people or do they just get more publicity?

meh.

They have to be. I mean, is there are greater oxymoron than "honest politician?"

Most people don't have every stand they've ever taken summed up in soundbites and secreted in the storage closets of every news outlet in the country.

Most people don't condemn the president for diddling the hired help while boning someone other than their wife either.


Well I'd hope not.

Most people don't condemn the president for diddling the hired help while boning someone other than their wife either.


Well I'd hope not.

you're right. and this is one politician out of how many?

This is pretty damn funny...

I'm sure lots of you have heard/seen the Chris Rock standup routine from Bigger and Blacker when he says:

You see all these fat Republican guys going: ''l would never do such a thing. This is a travesty.'' l'm like, ''Nobody's trying to blow you.'' Ain't no girls trying to blow Orrin Hatch. Ain't nobody trying
to give Newt Gingrich some. l don't give a fuck, you ain't never gonna hear Newt Gingrich go: ''Man, l wish these hoes would back up off me. l wish they would just back the fuck up off me.''

Turns out he was wrong lol.

you're right. and this is one politician out of how many?

by the way, I'm bored and feel like playing devil's advocate.

Most people don't condemn the president for diddling the hired help while boning someone other than their wife either.
There were many people in the US who condemned Clinton, and there are many people in the US who have affairs, so it is only logical to assume that the two qualities have coincided in more than just this one case.
People lie when they think it is in their best interests to do so, they change their opinions based upon changing personal status and information, and it is irrational to suspect that simply being able to convince 51% of voters in a particular area gives you superhuman powers in those respects.

Turns out he was wrong lol.
Clinton was hardly a raging stallion of raw sex and masculinity, anyway.
Power can be a powerful aphrodisiac, I guess.

Newt Gingrich, the Leeroy Jenkins of the Republican Party.

Alright guys! We're impeaching Clinton! NEEEEEEEWWWWWTTTTTTTTTT GIIIIIIIINNNNGGGRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIICCCCHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Clinton was hardly a raging stallion of raw sex and masculinity, anyway.

Speak for yourself. :fluffle:

Clinton was hardly a raging stallion of raw sex and masculinity, anyway.
Power can be a powerful aphrodisiac, I guess.

Never met the man, I guess. I'm as straight as they come and he could have seduced me if he'd wanted. The man oozes charisma and wants you to love him--that's his greatest asset and weakness.

He wasn't the president. The president has an influence so large that the basic morals he was putting out there, that it's fine to smoke pot and cheat on your wife with an intern, that's telling kids it's alright to cheat and that sex is nothing more than a casual activity.

It's like.. political incest!

Newt is not a hypocrite.

He wasn't the president. The president has an influence so large that the basic morals he was putting out there, that it's fine to smoke pot and cheat on your wife with an intern, that's telling kids it's alright to cheat and that sex is nothing more than a casual activity.

It's like.. political incest!

Newt is not a hypocrite.

Sure he's a hypocrite--he was chastising Clinton for being unfaithful, for "desecrating" the office of the President, while he was engaging in much the same conduct. How is that not hypocritical? Because he was only second in line for the presidency instead of actually being the president? It would be hypocritical even if he were only Joe Dumbfuck on the street.

Sure he's a hypocrite--he was chastising Clinton for being unfaithful, for "desecrating" the office of the President, while he was engaging in much the same conduct. How is that not hypocritical? Because he was only second in line for the presidency instead of actually being the president? It would be hypocritical even if he were only Joe Dumbfuck on the street.

Irrelevant.

Irrelevant.

What are you, Seven of Nine or something?

What are you, Seven of Nine or something?

"You will be assimilated. It is inevitable. Just as inevitable as Ruffy misunderstanding the meaning of the word 'hypocrite.'"
-Sixty of 9

What are you, Seven of Nine or something?

No, just really bored.

Of course, when the democratic president of the united states has an affair with a woman in his own office this is horrible, when the republican speaker has an affair with a woman while his wife is in the hospital recovering from cancer...well he's just a stray lamb who needs to find forgiveness in his heart.

And when his successor cheats on his wife it's a "youthful indiscretion," at the age of 40!

And when his successor cheats on his wife it's a "youthful indiscretion," at the age of 40!

Sucessor?

Irrelevant.

Criticizing someone for something while you are engaged in the same act is the very definition of hypocrisy. But then what politician isn't a hypocrite?

Huh, and here I thought the whole issue with Clinton was that he lied under oath or something. Course it was about something really stupid and they only tried it because they really hated him for no good reason and nothing else would stick/he didn't really do anything illegal.

But yeah, a hypocritical politician. Who'da thunk it?

This is a follow-up on the article posted earlier about Newt Gingrich's affair.
Apparently his admission to banging someone on the side while his wife was sick, in the hospital, with cancer was moving enough to get Jerry Falwell to invite him to give the commencement speech at Liberty.

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20070310/ap_on_go_co/gingrich_affair

I only wish this whole incident came out closer to the next election.

I only wish this whole incident came out closer to the next election.

When you sit back and laugh at the whole monkey show, it doesn't matter when they fling the poo.

I only wish this whole incident came out closer to the next election.
Oh, it'll come out again. Just watch. This election campaign is gonna be uuuugly.

maybe if we all stay quiet about it now we can pull it out later to hammer gingrich with if he gets the nomination.

Alright guys! We're impeaching Clinton! NEEEEEEEWWWWWTTTTTTTTTT GIIIIIIIINNNNGGGRRRRRRIIIIIIIIIIICCCCHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

GOD DAMNIT, NEWT!!

When you sit back and laugh at the whole monkey show, it doesn't matter when they fling the poo.

It kinda does. If it happened closer to the election there would have been a bigger likelihood that it would have had negative effects for the Republicans.

It kinda does. If it happened closer to the election there would have been a bigger likelihood that it would have had negative effects for the Republicans.

Which is always a good thing. Expect it to come up in debates during the primaries... if he runs that is.

21 of the 33 senate seats coming up on '08 are republican held. Methinks the senate will look something like 57-43, or 58-42 when the dust settles.

Keep the scandals coming GOP!!

Which is always a good thing. Expect it to come up in debates during the primaries... if he runs that is.

21 of the 33 senate seats coming up on '08 are republican held. Methinks the senate will look something like 57-43, or 58-42 when the dust settles.

Keep the scandals coming GOP!!

That would be nice. Probably won't be that big a difference, but I sure wouldn't complain if it were.

There is a huge difference between the two, and I can't understand why you just don't see it. You must be some kind of commiefaghippielibpinkoislamofascistterrorsympblameamericafirster.

I thought he was being sarcastic/ironic...but I can never tell when written down and I do not know the poster very well.

About the article, yes it is a shocker, because I thought the Republicans were messengers from god and capable of no wrong doing at all.

I only wish this whole incident came out closer to the next election.

According to the article he is probably going to run for president, I think this is why the event came out now in order to have some sort of control now rather than later.

Of course this whole scene will be raised again and again but of course later the likes of FOX news will try to slam it down as old news barely worth covering.

They have to be. I mean, is there are greater oxymoron than "honest politician?"

"American railways" comes to mind.

Go figure!

http://www.cnn.com/2007/POLITICS/03/08/gingrich.affair.ap/index.html


Seems while ol' Newt was going after Clinton for his choice of humidors in the oval office Newt was doing some woman on the side.


Judge not lest ye be judged :p

At least it was a woman and not a guy, if it was a guy - that would make real interesting headlines. Could be worse, like the pedo-republican.

Whoa. He's a politician and a hypocrite? How does he ever find time to... oh. Right. Never mind.

According to the article he is probably going to run for president, I think this is why the event came out now in order to have some sort of control now rather than later.

Of course this whole scene will be raised again and again but of course later the likes of FOX news will try to slam it down as old news barely worth covering.

No, here's how it will go-it'll come up, but then they'll point out that Clinton lied about his affair under oath while Newt 'admitted' his frailty and sought godly guidance and is therefore a more moral and upright man because of it, and don't we want that in a leader? A man who can find in his heart to admit he's a sinner and to seek gods forgiveness? And as that bullshit takes and becomes the discussion while he 'humbles' himself on the Sunday morning talk shows ('Who among us hasn't made mistakes? He's so like us...') you'll hear a tiny snap in your brain and another small part of you will die...I'm trying to enjoy what time I have left with that part of me before that happens...