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Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

i just saw a picture of a russian woman swimming in a frozen river for womyn's day. not sure what it was supposed to signify, but at least she got some flowers out of it. i have to confess i didn't know there was an international womyn's day today. guess i'm a pretty useless WICH member.

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

It's a shame your struggles didn't extend to learning to spell "Women." :D

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

My team leader gave chocolates to all the girls on the team :D

wait.........we aren't property:eek: *frolics in her newfound knowledge*

wait.........we aren't property:eek: *frolics in her newfound knowledge*

How could you be property? You pwn!

wait.........we aren't property:eek: *frolics in her newfound knowledge*
There's something kinky about someone frolicking in newfound knowledge.

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

It's only important if it gets me free beer.

i just saw a picture of a russian woman swimming in a frozen river for womyn's day. not sure what it was supposed to signify, but at least she got some flowers out of it. i have to confess i didn't know there was an international womyn's day today. guess i'm a pretty useless WICH member.I see we just read the same article on that guy crashing his plane. :p

And yeah, I knew (but only because they've been saying it on the radio several times today) but I don't exactly care all that much.

I see we just read the same article on that guy crashing his plane. :p

And yeah, I knew (but only because they've been saying it on the radio several times today) but I don't exactly care all that much.

ah that's where i saw it, it was only a couple of minutes ago and i'd already forgotten where i saw it! i was going to link to it but i was searching back through my stumbles.

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

I am certainly happy that women are no longer thought of as property (in some countries anyway) but I will never spell the word "women" as the above way. And you can't make me.

i just saw a picture of a russian woman swimming in a frozen river for womyn's day. not sure what it was supposed to signify, but at least she got some flowers out of it. i have to confess i didn't know there was an international womyn's day today. guess i'm a pretty useless WICH member.

I can just imagine the T-shirt "I swam a frozen river on International Womyn's Day, and All I got for it was this stupid shirt." :D

Oh well, it's the thought that counts. Most people don't know that it's International Womyn's day, espescially in the US because the USFG has a nasty tendancy to not observe those pesky homo-commie pinko holidays about recognizing people as being human.

It's a shame your struggles didn't extend to learning to spell "Women." :D

What do you mean? I thought everyone spelt it "womyn" :eek:

My team leader gave chocolates to all the girls on the team :D

Whatever works.

wait.........we aren't property:eek: *frolics in her newfound knowledge*

Feel liberated, Smunkeeville!

How could you be property? You pwn!
I do :cool:

There's something kinky about someone frolicking in newfound knowledge.
I tend to frolic in my birthday suit, it's the best frolicking outfit.....

Feel liberated, Smunkeeville!
I do......however, I do look forward to the day when people realize that children aren't property.

I do......however, I do look forward to the day when people realize that children aren't property.
But they're not yet people.

Dubbing them propoerty is a convenient way to make someone responsible for them.

If you spell it "womyn" you deserve to be shot in the eye with something powerful. The word "man" has etymological roots as meaning "person" in the context of "woman". By spelling it "womyn" they're implying they're not people, so they're hardly furthering their point. If you're going to make a political statement through bad spelling, please, do your research first.

Yay! I didn't even know today was Internation Women's Day!

But today it also Fluffle Day! :fluffle:

I am certainly happy that women are no longer thought of as property (in some countries anyway) but I will never spell the word "women" that way. And you can't make me.

Ahh, come on, just this once?

It's International Womyn's Day! It only comes but once a year!

I do......however, I do look forward to the day when people realize that children aren't property.

Sadly, that day is still forthcoming.

But they're not yet people.

Dubbing them propoerty is a convenient way to make someone responsible for them.

they are people, they are not yet adults.

I'd say all the power to them, the fight isn't over though, many dictatorships such as Saudi Arabia still treat women like property and regimes like North Korea and Colombia treat everyone like property. They should really spell women correctly though, it looks dumb spelt the other way.

I am certainly happy that womyn are no longer thought of as property (in some countries anyway) but I will never spell the word "women" as the above way. And you can't make me.
Oh?

:p

Ahh, come on, just this once?

It's International Womyn's Day! It only comes but once a year!

Nah. I'd still be admitting that this feminazi idea has some kind of merit. I might use it if I am poking fun at them now that I think about it... :)

Oh?

:p

What did you do!? :gundge: :eek:

Your little trick won't work on me! :p

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

But, I always thought women were property...

If you spell it "womyn" you deserve to be shot in the eye with something powerful. The word "man" has etymological roots as meaning "person" in the context of "woman". By spelling it "womyn" they're implying they're not people, so they're hardly furthering their point. If you're going to make a political statement through bad spelling, please, do your research first.

I do it to piss of holier than thou reactionaries. (apparently I've gotten some collateral damage)

never heard of it... hmmm...

I have heard of Mother's Day, though. Doesn't that count.

Yay! I didn't even know today was Internation Women's Day!

But today it also Fluffle Day! :fluffle:

Maybe change it? :fluffle:

Congratulations all you womyn, wymin and women out there. We need you, and without you our lives would be filled with nothing but pointless toil, depression, and hentai. You light up our days, and keep our nights warm. You make us complete, like a beer completes a sturdy steak meal.

Thank you for the unfair labor you still go through for us, like the less fun part of reproduction. Thank you for keeping our lives in order, so that we won't wallow in our own filth, watching TV until morning and living on nothing but potato chips and boogers. Thank you for Desperate Housewives; that show kicks ass.

Keep up the good work, and allow us to grace you with our respect, unconditioned love and foot/back rubs now and forever. We love you.

Now go do my laundry.

What did you do!?

Your little trick won't work on me!
I'll put whatever words I wish in whichever mouth I choose. Isn't that right, Hitler?
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/Fiddlebottoms/Ja.jpg

Nah. I'd still be admitting that this feminazi idea has some kind of merit. I might use it if I am poking fun at them now that I think about it... :)

:eek: Don't use that word!

Congratulations all you womyn, wymin and women out there. We need you, and without you our lives would be filled with nothing but pointless toil, depression, and hentai. You light up our days, and keep our nights warm. You make us complete, like a beer completes a sturdy steak meal.

Thank you for the unfair labor you still go through for us, like the less fun part of reproduction. Thank you for keeping our lives in order, so that we won't wallow in our own filth, watching TV until morning and living on nothing but potato chips and boogers. Thank you for Desperate Housewives; that show kicks ass.

Keep up the good work, and allow us to grace you with our respect, unconditioned love and foot/back rubs now and forever. We love you.

Now go do my laundry.

:p

that reminds me, I got this email from hubby this afternoon

Lord knows a good woman is so fine!
Lovely to look at, so sweet and kind -
A better companion you just won't find
Than a sweet, sweet woman with love on her mind.

She's fun in the morning, and fun in the day
She's fun at night for a roll in the hay.
Don't care what you think, don't care what you say –
I'll spend time with my woman whenever I may.

I've got a good woman – and what's not to love?
I swear she's an angel from heaven above.
Stronger than iron, soft as a dove
Fit her life to mine like a hand to a glove.

btw, did you keep leftovers from that roasted turkey? are they still good? can you make me a sandwich when I get home? and start some whites?

Women are not property ? WHAAAAT ?

[/borat imitation]:p

Congratulations all you womyn, wymin and women out there. We need you, and without you our lives would be filled with nothing but pointless toil, depression, and hentai. You light up our days, and keep our nights warm. You make us complete, like a beer completes a sturdy steak meal.

Thank you for the unfair labor you still go through for us, like the less fun part of reproduction. Thank you for keeping our lives in order, so that we won't wallow in our own filth, watching TV until morning and living on nothing but potato chips and boogers. Thank you for Desperate Housewives; that show kicks ass.

Keep up the good work, and allow us to grace you with our respect, unconditioned love and foot/back rubs now and forever. We love you.

Now go do my laundry.

Don't forget furious masturbation.

Don't forget furious masturbation.

I didn't. It's such an integral part of hentai, that I didn't feel the need to mention it separately. After all, without women we wouldn't even have real porn.:(

I'll put whatever words I wish in whichever mouth I choose. Isn't that right, Hitler?
http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a36/Fiddlebottoms/Ja.jpg

Only if are the Goebbels to my Hitler. ;)

:eek: Don't use that word!

The feminazis want to put all people with reproductive organs on the outside of their bodies into servitude! We must fight against this menace!

:p

that reminds me, I got this email from hubby this afternoon

That's sweet. I would have made a poem to go with my post too, but I just ate a huge meal, and my hurting stomach prevents me from concentrating enough.

Only if are the Goebbels to my Hitler. ;)



The feminazis want to put all people with reproductive organs on the outside of their bodies into servitude! We must fight against this menace!

I honestly hope you're being facetious.

my husband is in a similar predicament right now, since he ate 2 turkey sandwiches, then ate dinner, then ate 2 pieces of pie that I made. ;) He claims I am trying to make him fat. :p

Are you? Sure sounds like it.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but: how do you make him a sandwich if you've got celiac? That sounds like it would be a pain in the ass.

That's sweet. I would have made a poem to go with my post too, but I just ate a huge meal, and my hurting stomach prevents me from concentrating enough.

my husband is in a similar predicament right now, since he ate 2 turkey sandwiches, then ate dinner, then ate 2 pieces of pie that I made. ;) He claims I am trying to make him fat. :p

How could you be property? You pwn!

I have seen the word "pwn" elsewhere on the Internet, but will somebody PLEASE tell me what it means?!


What do you mean? I thought everyone spelt it "womyn" :eek:

No, everybody does NOT spell it "womyn", thank God. Only womEn (and no, I don't mean "womYn") who are so idiotic and anti-male as to be obsessed with removing every reference to men, maleness, and masculinity from everything, only THEY MIS-spell it "womyn". The correct spelling is "women", and if anybody out there doesn't like it, it's THEIR problem, not mine.

If you spell it "womyn" you deserve to be shot in the eye with something powerful. The word "man" has etymological roots as meaning "person" in the context of "woman". By spelling it "womyn" they're implying they're not people, so they're hardly furthering their point. If you're going to make a political statement through bad spelling, please, do your research first.

I agree wholeheartedly, except that I don't believe they're implying that they're not human, i.e. that they're less than human. I believe they're trying to say that they are a completely different species from men.

But the TRUTH is that men and women are different genders of the SAME species, and the name of that species is "MAN".

It should be obvious to anyone.

That is, anyone except a college-educated, "man"-hating feminist obsessed with obsessed with removing men, maleness, masculinity, and any and every reference to any of the above, from our society, culture, and vocabulary.

I have seen the word "pwn" elsewhere on the Internet, but will somebody PLEASE tell me what it means?!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

Only if are the Goebbels to my Hitler. ;)
Excellent, Goebbels was t3h sex.

my husband is in a similar predicament right now, since he ate 2 turkey sandwiches, then ate dinner, then ate 2 pieces of pie that I made. ;) He claims I am trying to make him fat. :p

You evil womyn-person, you. :p

Unfortunately, I live alone and must make my own dinners, so I have nobody to blame but myself. Oh, and the company that packs meat. Damn those family-sized boxes! I must eat a pound of meat on each meal because of them.

Congratulations all you womyn, wymin and women out there. We need you, and without you our lives would be filled with nothing but pointless toil, depression, and hentai. You light up our days, and keep our nights warm. You make us complete, like a beer completes a sturdy steak meal.

Thank you for the unfair labor you still go through for us, like the less fun part of reproduction. Thank you for keeping our lives in order, so that we won't wallow in our own filth, watching TV until morning and living on nothing but potato chips and boogers. Thank you for Desperate Housewives; that show kicks ass.

Keep up the good work, and allow us to grace you with our respect, unconditioned love and foot/back rubs now and forever. We love you.

Now go do my laundry.

Ditto here, except for the misspellings of "women" and that part about the laundry.

But what is "hentai"?

Are you? Sure sounds like it.

I hope you don't mind me asking, but: how do you make him a sandwich if you've got celiac? That sounds like it would be a pain in the ass.

I make it on rice bread (http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/3121/) it actually tastes better than I remember wheat bread tasting, but then again, wheat bread always made me sick, so I probably have an aversion to it anyway.

There is no gluten in our house at all, ever.

I honestly hope you're being facetious.

Of course. They just want to have extra rights and privileges from those with the outside reproductive organs. ;)

But what is "hentai"?

don't ask, and for God's sake don't google it.......I made that mistake once......horrible.

I make it on rice bread (http://www.recipeland.com/recipe/3121/) it actually tastes better than I remember wheat bread tasting, but then again, wheat bread always made me sick, so I probably have an aversion to it anyway.

There is no gluten in our house at all, ever.

Oh, ok. Cool. Yeah this tends to be a nut-free household, as well. I've seen to that ever since my last run-in with my good buddy anaphylaxis.

The feminazis want to put all people with reproductive organs on the outside of their bodies into servitude! We must fight against this menace!

I would like to think you're being facetious and sarcastic, and I hope you are, but considering how women act nowadays, that statement is very believable, and while I regard women as people and not property, I expect them to treat me likewise, as a human being and not the less-than-human, sexually insatiable beast that women like to think men are.

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

When's International men's day?

Of course. They just want to have extra rights and privileges from those with the outside reproductive organs. ;)

Sorry; not acceptable. I don't object to equality, but giving women MORE civil rights and privileges than men have is unacceptable to me, just as unacceptable as treating women like "property", "possessions", or otherwise less than human.

When's International men's day?

the other 364 days of the year?

When's International men's day?

I like that idea; International Men's Day, where we consider how men are unfairly bashed, evil spoken of, low-rated, vilified, disregarded, denied civil rights, discriminated against, and severely mistreated in American society and culture, and recognize and acknowledge that this NEEDS TO CHANGE, and that we deserve more respect than we are being given. (no sarcasm intended)

When's International men's day?
Nobody feels the need to make pointless gestures toward men. Really, do you want an International Man's Day? I can quite confidently say that I don't, my friend, because that just starts us on a long and dark path, a path that can only end with the word "Myn" getting added to Webster's Dictionary.
*shudders*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pwn

Thank you.:D

When's International men's day?
March 17th?

don't ask, and for God's sake don't google it.......I made that mistake once......horrible.

not as bad as googleing Fatality...

p.s.: DON'T EVER DO THAT!!!!!

don't ask, and for God's sake don't google it.......I made that mistake once......horrible.

I pity you. I really do.

Sorry; not acceptable. I don't object to equality, but giving women MORE civil rights and privileges than men have is unacceptable to me, just as unacceptable as treating women like "property", "possessions", or otherwise less than human.

I'm not agreeing with their aims. Just stating what they are. The type who wants to lower standards on getting into the military, becoming a firefighter etc., just so there could be higher amounts of women in these jobs. Nevermind that it puts people at risk when they don't have the strength to do what the men can do, oh no, that doesn't matter at all. Getting women into "mens" professions by any means necessary is their only concern. And of course just simply despising men, also a common trait.

Hardly something I would ever agree with. Equality yes, rolling back standards, no.

I do it to piss of holier than thou reactionaries. (apparently I've gotten some collateral damage)

I wasn't directing my irritation solely at you, but at the movement in general.

not as bad as googleing Fatality...

p.s.: DON'T EVER DO THAT!!!!!
*googles* :eek:

well, you can't say you didn't warn me.

I pity you. I really do.

why?

*googles* :eek:

well, you can't say you didn't warn me.



why?

Stumbling across hentai, completely unprepared.

Stumbling across hentai, completely unprepared.

it was traumatizing.

it was traumatizing.

I can only imagine.

Dbz Hentai Ftw!!!1 Lololoolololololz
I just died a little inside.

Dbz Hentai Ftw!!!1 Lololoolololololz

I just died a little inside.

I'll get the funeral preparations under way.

I knew about it. It was yesterday here.

Dbz Hentai Ftw!!!1 Lololoolololololz

Pfft. That's nothing.

I knew about it. It was yesterday here.Fuck, didn't you just go to bed?

Pfft. That's nothing.

*looks at your name* NOOO! Don't go there.

Fuck, didn't you just go to bed?

Yeah, which was dumb, since I have to be up at 7am for work tomorrow. I got about 5 hours sleep.

What does "womyns" mean in English?

I have seen the word "pwn" elsewhere on the Internet, but will somebody PLEASE tell me what it means?!

Someone else may already have done this but:

Gamers often type too fast to fix their spelling. "p" and "o" are next to each other on the keyboard. Once upon a time, "own" was mispelled "pwn," and it stuck :D

BTW "to own" means "to beat convincingly" ;)

Excellent, Goebbels was t3h sex.

Hitler only had one ball
Goering had two but his were small
Himmler had something similar
And Goebbels had no balls at all!

*the lyrics to the whistled tune from Bridge on the River Kwai*

When's International men's day?

The other 364. Duh.

the other 364 days of the year?

See? Told you she pwns ;)

wait.........we aren't property:eek: *frolics in her newfound knowledge*
I would say 'chattle'

I would say 'chattle'

And I would say "sp" ;)

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

Maybe because you've won. What you just said is accepted. Don't force it further or actually you'll push it back. Let it happen with time

It's an illusion that we are completelly equal in the western world. Look at the wages, women make less money for the same amount of labour as men. Women often stay home and do housework because in some countries it is tradition that the men supports the family while the women take care of the kids. When women are working, which is very common theese days thankfully, they still have do work much harder because because they have a job and they do much more housework than men do. So they do twice the work for the same money which makes them more stressed. And do we even have to speak about all beauty ideals that women from small ages are beeing shown? Look at thoses stupid dolls Bratz for example, you give them to a little girl and they will think that women are supposed to look like that to satisfy their men.

We have come a long way in the struggle for womens rights, but there's still a long way to go and it's an illusion that we are equal, because we aren't. The struggle for equality of all sorts needs to go on!

Women shouldn't get to celebrate anything but their son's birthdays.

It's an illusion that we are completelly equal in the western world. Look at the wages, women make less money for the same amount of labour as men.

Wrong and a lie that I wish feminism would stop pedelling. In the vast majority of the western world there is equal pay legislation. Which means that if a women is doing the same job as a man she is entitled to the same pay as a man. So if there is a male data collection supervisor working for company A for 9 hours a day and a female data collection supervisor working for company A for 9 hours a day, they will both be paid the same ammount of money. While it is legitimate to suggest that women may not be advancing as much as men that is something that will change with time, not by force.

Women often stay home and do housework because in some countries it is tradition that the men supports the family while the women take care of the kids. When women are working, which is very common theese days thankfully, they still have do work much harder because because they have a job and they do much more housework than men do. So they do twice the work for the same money which makes them more stressed.

While domestic division of labour may be unbalenced, you cannot co-ordinate something like the feminisim of old to 'fight' that. That is something individual families must do and must change over time. Its not something for an outside belief system to be forcing in the way you are suggesting

And do we even have to speak about all beauty ideals that women from small ages are beeing shown? Look at thoses stupid dolls Bratz for example, you give them to a little girl and they will think that women are supposed to look like that to satisfy their men

I agree with you, the socialisation of girls is far too image consious, but again, this will not change from outside pressure on the media itself alone, but also from people ignoring it at the source.


We have come a long way in the struggle for womens rights, but there's still a long way to go and it's an illusion that we are equal, because we aren't. The struggle for equality of all sorts needs to go on!

The 'struggle' as you put it, is over in the classic sense. Feminisim has won the war against the law. Women are now legally equal. What you are talking about is social equality, which is something very different and much more complicated, and something that cannot be forced to change. Women shouting and complaining about it in the 'struggle' fashion that you suggest is only going to breed contempt for any movement. Social change does not come about through force. The civil rights movement did not end racisim in America. Nor is racism gone now. However racisim is far less strong now than it was because time has eroded it, not because people have been shouting at people and campaigning against it, but because the idea that all peoples are equal regardless of coulor has seeped in and is slowly erroding the opposing view. Women complaining at unequal domestic division of labour will not create the end to the inequality that you seek. It will happen, with time, not with force.

I thought women already had a day. Labor day.

BTW, where's my dinner?

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

That was yesterday, quit living in the past. ;)

it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

More than "have had" I'd say "are still having".:(

Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina. (does anybody remember that thread still? It was just yesterday...)

Wimminz day over, no more rights for wimminz.

wait.........we aren't property:eek: *frolics in her newfound knowledge*

Neither is my wife. Damned liberals have been destroying the institution of marriage since the nineteenth century. First I can only have one wife. Then I have to treat her as a person. What's next? I have to treat her as an equal?

Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Women.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina.
Vagina. (does anybody remember that thread still? It was just yesterday...)

Well then the word shouldn't be womyn. It should be woperoffspring (because the word "person" has the word "son" in it.)

*snip for length*
Here's what I love:

Dude like Neo Sanderstead toddles into the thread and happily announces that feminism's work is done, and we should all just shut up about it already. (The not-so-veiled threat being that if we don't shut up, the menfolk will take away our rights again, and that will show us.)

He then proceeds to make a lengthy post that clearly and explicitly demonstrates exactly why feminism is absolutely NOT done, why equality has NOT been achieved, and why further discussion and education is STILL desperately needed.

Thank you, Neo Sanderstead, for doing my work for me. I'm a feminist, you see, but I'm also a very lazy person. I really appreciate how you have so neatly summed up the reasons why we need to be even louder and prouder in asserting feminist principles, and why we need to work even harder at building a world where real equality exists.

When's International men's day?
Hehehehe.

Forgive me, but this makes me think of when I was 6 years old, and I asked my mom,

"Mom, how come there is a Mother's Day and a Father's Day, but there's no Children's Day?"

She fixed me with her eye and said, "Kid, every day is Children's Day."

Sorry dudes, but there's one downside to holding the vast majority of political, financial, and social power, and that is that you aren't going to get to enjoy a completely obscure and generally ignored nominal holiday. I know, I know, this is clearly oppression and men are obviously facing a kind of discrimination that dwarfs anything women have ever had to endure. But I know you manly folks will be able to suck it up.

When's International men's day?

Depends on the country. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day)

But what is "hentai"?Porn manga, anime and games. (a more proper term would be H-<anime/games/etc.>, but hentai has become quite a well-rooted term outside Japan)

don't ask, and for God's sake don't google it.......I made that mistake once......horrible.Hardly a good way to be introduced to it, I'd guess.

Just look a bit harder, though, and I'm sure you will find some interesting material.;) There is a very wide range of different kinds of it.

There are plenty of review sites that you could browse without having to worry about being further scarred.

Neither is my wife. Damned liberals have been destroying the institution of marriage since the nineteenth century. First I can only have one wife. Then I have to treat her as a person. What's next? I have to treat her as an equal?

I know, it's so sad.:(

Holidays that only persisted as they were used as propaganda tools in the Soviet bloc. Delightful.

I mean, not to knock women. I love 'em. I think women's lib is a rather good thing, feminism ain't all that bad. But redo the day, get another one, or maybe just pick up a month, or maybe just surpass us unruly men.

I'm not a "womyn" so that probably explains why I didn't post it.

yesterday also was world kidney day.

read some disturbing stuff in the newspaper though, i really didn't expect that things were still that bad for women these days.

I favour this spelling: "International Sexual Equality Day". Less ambiguous in meaning. :)

I favour this spelling: "International Sexual Equality Day". Less ambiguous in meaning. :)

Less Soviet too.

I approve.

Less Soviet too.

I approve.

Worrying about Sovietness is sooo last century, just like Sovietistan :p

Hitler only had one ball

*the lyrics to the whistled tune from Bridge on the River Kwai*
Nein! Your lyrics don't fit the tune, the proper line is: "Hitler had only one big ball."

Hm, discussing the testicles of Nazi leaders on a thread about International Women's Day. This may well be the best thread-jacking ever.

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

More importantly, today is day 300 is released in theaters. :D

We commemorate all the struggles that Spartans had to go through to have Thesbians utterly ignored for the rest of eternity.

Sorry dudes, but there's one downside to holding the vast majority of political, financial, and social power, and that is that you aren't going to get to enjoy a completely obscure and generally ignored nominal holiday. I know, I know, this is clearly oppression and men are obviously facing a kind of discrimination that dwarfs anything women have ever had to endure. But I know you manly folks will be able to suck it up.

it is unfortunate that all men are such strong and manly types that they totally avoid whining about these sorts of horrific oppressions they face on a yearly basis. if we don't start now, how shall we overcome, someday?

Well, whaddaya know? I always thought we were put here to serve our XY-endowed masters!

Depends on the country. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/International_Men%27s_Day)

That's cool. I'm glad to see at least some countries give both men and women a holiday. Its only fair.

Well I'm sorry, but March 8th is my Birthday.
Birthday first, strange holiday nobody really celebrates second.

I got a Wii! And the Last Emperor on DVD. Heavily reccomended for those who haven't seen it.

Hm, discussing the testicles of Nazi leaders on a thread about International Women's Day. This may well be the best thread-jacking ever.

Must sig :p

Wrong and a lie that I wish feminism would stop pedelling. In the vast majority of the western world there is equal pay legislation. Which means that if a women is doing the same job as a man she is entitled to the same pay as a man. So if there is a male data collection supervisor working for company A for 9 hours a day and a female data collection supervisor working for company A for 9 hours a day, they will both be paid the same ammount of money. While it is legitimate to suggest that women may not be advancing as much as men that is something that will change with time, not by force.

The fact that women aren't advancing as much as men might be a very important factor in explaining why women generally have lower wages than men. But if women have a harder time advancing than men, aren't they payed less amount of money for the same amount of labour? The most important question here is why do women have a harder time advancing than men?



I have to agree with you here. While the division of house work might be unfair I don't see how a legislation against it would meke anything better. I strongly believe that the more secular a country is, the division of housework between women and men will be more balanced because the role of the "traditional family", that is a man working while the woman is taking care of the house and the kids, will fade away.



[QUOTE= The 'struggle' as you put it, is over in the classic sense. Feminisim has won the war against the law. Women are now legally equal. What you are talking about is social equality, which is something very different and much more complicated, and something that cannot be forced to change. Women shouting and complaining about it in the 'struggle' fashion that you suggest is only going to breed contempt for any movement. Social change does not come about through force. The civil rights movement did not end racisim in America. Nor is racism gone now. However racisim is far less strong now than it was because time has eroded it, not because people have been shouting at people and campaigning against it, but because the idea that all peoples are equal regardless of coulor has seeped in and is slowly erroding the opposing view. Women complaining at unequal domestic division of labour will not create the end to the inequality that you seek. It will happen, with time, not with force.

The struggle is over in out part of the world at least but the social differences remain. And I say it again, the more religion is loosing it's role the more equal we will be.

EDIT: What am I doing wrong, why can't I qoute you more than once?

Oh joy. Yay. Calling it "womyn's day" is like calling black history month "black power month". They both imply severe radicalism.

The feminazis want to put all people with reproductive organs on the outside of their bodies into servitude! We must fight against this menace!

Yes, by all means, lets fight against a menace that doesn't exist.

Maybe because you've won. What you just said is accepted. Don't force it further or actually you'll push it back. Let it happen with time

No, the fight is only beginning. Being recognized as a person was just the first step, now its on to tearing down ridiculous gender roles and ensuring true equality.

BTW, i'm a man.

Just so you know. It's not a contradiction to be strongly feminist and a man.

Sorry; not acceptable. I don't object to equality, but giving women MORE civil rights and privileges than men have is unacceptable to me, just as unacceptable as treating women like "property", "possessions", or otherwise less than human.

Psst! *whispers* Guess what! No one in the feminist movement is advocating that!

Today is International Womyn's Day. You know, it's a day we commemorate all the struggles that women have had to go through to be recognized as a people, and not property.

Wait, they're not property? Well, that explains all the slapping when I ask them where I go to pay for them...






I probably should prepare for more slapping. Fair enough, I guess...

Hm, discussing the testicles of Nazi leaders on a thread about International Women's Day. This may well be the best thread-jacking ever.

I'm happy to have done my small part in this achievement. :D