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Former Iranian Defense Official Defects to the West

UN Protectorates
09-03-2007, 00:01
By Dafna Linzer
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, March 8, 2007

A former Iranian deputy defense minister who once commanded the Revolutionary Guard has left his country and is cooperating with Western intelligence agencies, providing information on Hezbollah and Iran's ties to the organization, according to a senior U.S. official.

Ali Rez Asgari disappeared last month during a visit to Turkey. Iranian officials suggested yesterday that he may have been kidnapped by Israel or the United States. The U.S. official said Asgari is willingly cooperating. He did not divulge Asgari's whereabouts or specify who is questioning him, but made clear that the information Asgari is offering is fully available to U.S. intelligence.

Asgari served in the Iranian government until early 2005 under then-President Mohammad Khatami. Asgari's background suggests that he would have deep knowledge of Iran's national security infrastructure, conventional weapons arsenal and ties to Hezbollah in south Lebanon. Iranian officials said he was not involved in the country's nuclear program, and the senior U.S. official said Asgari is not being questioned about it. Former officers with Israel's Mossad spy agency said yesterday that Asgari had been instrumental in the founding of Hezbollah in the 1980s, around the time of the bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut.

Iran's official news agency, IRNA, quoted the country's top police chief, Brig. Gen. Esmaeil Ahmadi-Moqaddam, as saying that Asgari was probably kidnapped by agents working for Western intelligence agencies. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that Asgari was in the United States. Another U.S. official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, denied that report and suggested that Asgari's disappearance was voluntary and orchestrated by the Israelis. A spokesman for President Bush's National Security Council did not return a call for comment.

The Israeli government denied any connection to Asgari. "To my knowledge, Israel is not involved in any way in this disappearance," said Mark Regev, the spokesman for Israel's foreign ministry.

An Iranian official, who agreed to discuss Asgari on the condition of anonymity, said that Iranian intelligence is unsure of Asgari's whereabouts but that he may have been offered money, probably by Israel, to leave the country. The Iranian official said Asgari was thought to be in Europe. "He has been out of the loop for four or five years now," the official said.

Israeli and Turkish newspapers reported yesterday that Asgari disappeared in Istanbul shortly after he arrived there on Feb. 7. Iran sent a delegation to Turkey to investigate his disappearance and requested help from Interpol in locating him.

Former Mossad director Danny Yatom, who is now a member of Israel's parliament, said he believes Asgari defected to the West. "He is very high-caliber," Yatom said. "He held a very, very senior position for many long years in Lebanon. He was in effect commander of the Revolutionary Guards" there.

Ram Igra, a former Mossad officer, said Asgari spent much of the 1980s and 1990s overseeing Iran's efforts to support, finance, arm and train Hezbollah. The State Department lists the Shiite Lebanese group as a terrorist organization.

"He lived in Lebanon and, in effect, was the man who built, promoted and founded Hezbollah in those years," Igra told Israeli state radio. "If he has something to give the West, it is in this context of terrorism and Hezbollah's network in Lebanon."

The organization, led by Hasan Nasrallah, is believed to have been behind several attacks against U.S., Jewish and Israeli interests worldwide, including the 1983 bombing of the U.S. Marine barracks in Beirut that killed 241 Americans, and the 1994 bombing of a Jewish community center in Buenos Aires that killed more than 80 people.

Israel fought a bloody, month-long war with Hezbollah last summer in south Lebanon after the group seized two Israeli soldiers. The soldiers have not been returned and their fate is unknown. Other Israeli soldiers have vanished in Lebanon during decades of conflict along the countries' shared border, most notably an Israeli airman named Ron Arad. Yatom said it is possible Asgari "knows quite a lot about Ron Arad."

In a January briefing to Congress, then-Director of National Intelligence John D. Negroponte described Hezbollah as a growing threat to U.S. interests. "As a result of last summer's hostilities, Hezbollah's self-confidence and hostility toward the United States as a supporter of Israel could cause the group to increase its contingency planning against United States interests," Negroponte said.

U.S. intelligence officials said they had no evidence that Hezbollah was actively planning attacks but noted that the organization has the capacity to do so if it feels threatened.



This is quite a turn of events. It seems Asgari wasn't kidnapped by the Mossad after all. Asgari may not have information about Iran's nuclear program, but at least he can give information about Iran's involvement within Iraq and Hezbollah.

However, that Iranian source that commented that Asgari has, "Been kept out of the loop for 5 years" is not promising. Thoughts?
The Infinite Dunes
09-03-2007, 00:13
This is quite a turn of events. It seems Asgari wasn't kidnapped by the Mossad after all. Asgari may not have information about Iran's nuclear program, but at least he can give information about Iran's involvement within Iraq and Hezbollah.

However, that Iranian source that commented that Asgari has, "Been kept out of the loop for 5 years" is not promising. Thoughts?First rule of the intelligence services... well, maybe not first... but it is a rule they tend to follow. Don't trust a single word a defector tells you until you have a full and comprensive reason for why he defected. Otherwise you could simply be helping them grind their axe.
Deus Malum
09-03-2007, 00:14
This is quite a turn of events. It seems Asgari wasn't kidnapped by the Mossad after all. Asgari may not have information about Iran's nuclear program, but at least he can give information about Iran's involvement within Iraq and Hezbollah.

However, that Iranian source that commented that Asgari has, "Been kept out of the loop for 5 years" is not promising. Thoughts?

*looks at your name. Realizes you're not New Mitanni or Corny, decides to post*

If he has any relevant information we can use, it's a good thing. Even if he doesn't, at least now we know Mossad didn't kill him.
Which is kinda a good thing.
...I guess
Pyotr
09-03-2007, 00:26
However, that Iranian source that commented that Asgari has, "Been kept out of the loop for 5 years" is not promising. Thoughts?

Agreed.

Iran's official news agency, IRNA, quoted the country's top police chief, Brig. Gen. Esmaeil Ahmadi-Moqaddam, as saying that Asgari was probably kidnapped by agents working for Western intelligence agencies. The Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that Asgari was in the United States. Another U.S. official, who spoke on the condition of anonymity, denied that report and suggested that Asgari's disappearance was voluntary and orchestrated by the Israelis. A spokesman for President Bush's National Security Council did not return a call for comment.

There are a lot of conflicting reports here, I don't trust any of them. Obviously it's better if he defected and not kidnapped, but he may just be pissed off at his old bosses.
New Mitanni
09-03-2007, 02:24
*looks at your name. Realizes you're not New Mitanni or Corny, decides to post*

He beat me to it, obviously. But next time something happens that would actually help our war efforts, I'll be sure to post on it so you won't have to make that decision :p

If he has any relevant information we can use, it's a good thing. Even if he doesn't, at least now we know Mossad didn't kill him.
Which is kinda a good thing.
...I guess

Since he apparently got his family out of Iran before he defected, it looks like he's serious. It also looks like he might have valuable info.

Of course, in the minds of certain posters, you can't trust anything a defector would say, especially someone who defects to our side, because he's just going to say what we want to hear. On the other hand, if we tortured him, he'd . . . just say what we want to hear. Guess we just can't win.
Vetalia
09-03-2007, 02:27
It's a good start, but I'd be really interested if current officials start leaving. That would be a clear sign that the sane ones are making a run from that nutjob as he runs the country further and further in to the ground and a clear sign that it will be time for the clerics to intervene and engineer a regime change to someone better capable of managing the country and dealing with the West.
Non Aligned States
09-03-2007, 02:44
Since he apparently got his family out of Iran before he defected, it looks like he's serious.

Any person who has family ties, and who likes those ties, generally tries to get their families out when they defect. Defectors and their families don't get to go home again unless its to face a firing squad.


It also looks like he might have valuable info.


That's a mighty big might. Remember a certain 'source' whom the administration touted as slam dunk when the CIA was going, "No way"?

Face it, if they wanted to, the administration could pull a drunk hobo off the streets and claim him to be the source.


Of course, in the minds of certain posters, you can't trust anything a defector would say, especially someone who defects to our side, because he's just going to say what we want to hear. On the other hand, if we tortured him, he'd . . . just say what we want to hear. Guess we just can't win.

I'd rather there be confirmed information from a defector rather than specious information from a defector. For all you know, he could be a double agent.

But you won't care as long as he tells you what you want to hear will you?
Kyronea
09-03-2007, 02:53
It's a good start, but I'd be really interested if current officials start leaving. That would be a clear sign that the sane ones are making a run from that nutjob as he runs the country further and further in to the ground and a clear sign that it will be time for the clerics to intervene and engineer a regime change to someone better capable of managing the country and dealing with the West.
I'm just hoping the clerics will calm everything down anyway without all of these defections and unnecessary escalations. We keep this up and we may end up in a war regardless of whether we can fight it or not, and that's the last thing sane U.S. AND Iranian citizens want, New Mitanni-like fools notwithstanding.