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This is about last Sunday's Battlestar Galactica episode. *potential spoilers*




























































Seriously, SciFi people, they wouldn't really kill Starbuck without leaving a way to bring her back in later episodes. Think about it. They killed Starbuck in such a contrived manner after she'd been hallucinating about Cylons for several days. It's so obvious. Starbuck is a Cylon!

Come on, think about it.

There was a BIG thread on this the day after it aired:

http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=519876&highlight=battlestar+galactica

Or maybe they killed her off as a perfect example of how the stress can affect even the toughest people.

Much as I love the show, I'm starting to feel a little fucked with these days.

They did leave open several possibilities for her to be rescued/ one of the final five, yet made it convinecing enough to keep her off the show if they wanted to. You do know on www.scifi.com/battlestar there are about 1 million of these threads that you can debate this on :) On the otherhand killing off a main character brings us back to season one where it seemed everyone was expendable, especially after Adama was shot. BTW baltar hallunicanates about cylons for about 3 seasons now and he is NOT a cylon.

I believe she is one of the final five, but that is just me :)

Or maybe they killed her off as a perfect example of how the stress can affect even the toughest people.

Much as I love the show, I'm starting to feel a little fucked with these days.

True, but the first rule of scifi is to never kill any main character off without a way to bring them back.

True, but the first rule of scifi is to never kill any main character off without a way to bring them back.

BSG is not Star Trek they have killed off quite a few important characters and so far none have returned.

RIP
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Ellen Tigh
Billy
Kat
Admiral Cain
Commander Fisk
The third Pegasus Commander
Number 3 (boxed actually)
Starbuck (seemingly)
Crashdown

Important Ships destroyed
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Battlestar Pegasus
Cloud Nine
Olympic Carrier

I am sure there are more but I can not think of them right now. I will edit the list if I think of any more.

Come on now, it's fairly obvious she's a cylon.

BSG is not Star Trek they have killed off quite a few important characters and so far none have returned.

RIP
---------
Ellen Tigh
Billy
Kat
Admiral Cain
Commander Fisk
The third Pegasus Commander
Number 3 (boxed actually)
Starbuck (seemingly)
Crashdown

Important Ships destroyed
------------------------------
Battlestar Pegasus
Cloud Nine
Olympic Carrier

I am sure there are more but I can not think of them right now. I will edit the list if I think of any more.

Not to mention the version of Leoben Conoy from the miniseries that was believed to be too far away from the Resurrection Ship to be resurrected.

Though he was a minor char, I guess. To be honest, Billy's death was the only one that took my by surprise. I wish they'd start killing off more important characters, but there's a limited supply of them if they want to maintain continuity.

Now if you're up for fiction where the author has absolutely no qualms about killing off main characters (several in a single chapter), go ahead and read the Song of Ice and Fire series by George R. R. Martin.

Much as I love the show, I'm starting to feel a little fucked with these days.
Aye. What next - 3 battlestars they forgot about escaped and now meet the Galactica?

Earth is actually already the Cylon homeworld, and upon jumping into the system, absolutely everyone is killed in about 9 seconds?

Aye. What next - 3 battlestars they forgot about escaped and now meet the Galactica?

Earth is actually already the Cylon homeworld, and upon jumping into the system, absolutely everyone is killed in about 9 seconds?

At least it hasn't become as convoluted as Lost.

At least it hasn't become as convoluted as Lost.

True, very true.

At least it hasn't become as convoluted as Lost.
It's still chafing my biscuits royally at this point in time.

It's still chafing my biscuits royally at this point in time.

Aye. The only real objection I have to it is the breakdown in action since Season 1. Sure there are dogfights and frequent skirmishes, but none of the really cool space battle scenes from the miniseries.

It's become a lot more soap opera-like, and it saddens me.

Note: On the plus side, it's now got 2 more seasons than the original.

Aye. The only real objection I have to it is the breakdown in action since Season 1. Sure there are dogfights and frequent skirmishes, but none of the really cool space battle scenes from the miniseries.

It's become a lot more soap opera-like, and it saddens me.

Note: On the plus side, it's now got 2 more seasons than the original.
I quite like the more human element to it - it's what stops it being as crap as most sci-fi tbh.

On the other hand, it's lost a lot of its pace. Before, it was "rightio, we've just escaped, 3 weeks later we're fighting for fuel so as to live, a couple of months later, we're in Series 2. Now it's "Seven Months Later" or somesuch at the start of most of the eps.

Will Tigh die of old age before the end?

I quite like the more human element to it - it's what stops it being as crap as most sci-fi tbh.

On the other hand, it's lost a lot of its pace. Before, it was "rightio, we've just escaped, 3 weeks later we're fighting for fuel so as to live, a couple of months later, we're in Series 2. Now it's "Seven Months Later" or somesuch at the start of most of the eps.

Will Tigh die of old age before the end?

I like the human element too, but I was more taken by the religious conflicts and the mythologies, and that keeps taking a back seat to other, less interesting stories.

Aye. The only real objection I have to it is the breakdown in action since Season 1. Sure there are dogfights and frequent skirmishes, but none of the really cool space battle scenes from the miniseries.

It's become a lot more soap opera-like, and it saddens me.

Note: On the plus side, it's now got 2 more seasons than the original.

Well, realistically, they can't have big battles because they have only one ship, which is obselete, heavily damaged, and the only barrier between the Cylons and doom. So, unless you want them to contrive a way to get some more battlestars (who somehow were unaccounted for and survived the blitz), then we'll have to make due.

theyve been building up this story line of starbucks for a while now. she has a destiny. she paints a 4000 year old symbol from a temple no one knew about. the psychic or priestess (whatever she was) told her that the cylonguy would show her her destiny or something...

to then just kill her inside a storm that looks suspiciously like the picture she has been painting her whole life and then DROP the whole thing would be far beneath the story skills of this group.

there has to be more starbuck story to come.

Oh they didnt?Too bad...hate that character.Death to Starbuck.

theyve been building up this story line of starbucks for a while now. she has a destiny. she paints a 4000 year old symbol from a temple no one knew about. the psychic or priestess (whatever she was) told her that the cylonguy would show her her destiny or something...

to then just kill her inside a storm that looks suspiciously like the picture she has been painting her whole life and then DROP the whole thing would be far beneath the story skills of this group.

there has to be more starbuck story to come.

That's true. But one of my favorite authors has a tendency to kill off main characters just when you think they're important to the story.

Starbuck is one of the following three, as far as I can tell.

A. Dead as a doorknob.

B. One of the Final Five Cylons, and in a Resurrection ship right now.

C. Has a higher destiny that even being one of the Final Five, kind of like Gaius.

And now I start getting annoyed.

D'Anna saw the Final Five, obviously. That means that she was the Chosen One. But that makes no sense since Gaius is supposed to be the Chosen One. Does that mean that he IS one of the Final Five? I mean, with him hallucinating about Six and with Six hallucinating about him, it doesn't seem that unlikely. And what the frack does that symbol mean, anyways? And if Gaius isn't one of the Final Five, then what the frack is his destiny supposed to be? And Starbuck is kind of out of luck as far as other destinies go, since D'Anna jacked the Chosen One (and was subsequently deactivated), and last I checked there were no other destinies being planned about. And what is Joedun or whatever his fracking name is. Why is Starbuck hallucinating about him? Is it just the captivity on New Caprica? Or is does he too have some kind of fracking higher destiny.

God damn it. I'm going to sleep now.

God damn it. God damn it ALL! This week is taking too damn fracking long. I want my new BSG episode NOW!

she ejected and landed on the hood of the raider