NationStates Jolt Archive

And if so, then what?

If not, then how do you get around?


I drive a 1994 purple chevy cavalier. I hope it dies soon so i can get a new car :D

Can't and won't drive. It requires too much multitasking, and multitasking is physically impossible for me.

No. Cars cost money, something I am hoarding and being frugal with at this point in my life.

2006 model (2005 reg) vauxhall corsa 1.2L sports, black.

goes pretty good :)



edit: though i hate driving itself...

I have a blue Subaru Legacy sedan, 1992. 130,000 plus miles, she runs pretty well. Which reminds me, I ought to take her to the car-wash soon, the winter's been unkind.

Nope. I do have my licence, I just can't afford a car.

Walking or bus for me (usually the former), unless I need to go a bit further afield (which is rare).

I have a Jeep. :cool: right now it's in pieces so I am borrowing a friend's Kia Sephia.......it's totally unlike the Jeep. :(

Yes.

2004 Vauxhall Corsa 1.6 SXi. Very nice it is too, thanks.

I don't drive yet, although I have my learner's permit, because I won't have a car until this summer and I'd have to pay for insurance anyway before I get my license. This summer, I'm going to get my license and get my Dad's Camry.

Right now, my Mom drives me to school (in the Camry. It's my Dad's car, but they switched a while ago.) To get home on days when I don't tutor, I get rides from various friends. On days that I do tutor, I ride the school bus to the nearby elementary school (only 5 minutes away, but it takes half an hour because we have to wait until the end of the bus's route.) Then I walk to the middle school next door, where my brothers currently attend school, and wait at the after school program there with them until a parent comes around 5:30 or so to pick us up.

the winter's been unkind.
QFT

Currently a 325i. Gonna get either an M3 or 335i coupe here shortly, still trying to decide.

Don't drive, never have, never needed to.
I usually walk, or if it's too far for walking take the bus or my bicycle.

I don't drive. But I REALLY want to.

Yes, though as in many cities, parking is expensive, so I also use public transport. It's a '93 Toyota EXIV, getting on a bit now but I still have a lot of affection for it :p

I dont own a car, but I like to drive quite a lot.

I too have got a jeep, its a cherokee 1995 model, i could afford a newer car but it has everything i need, runs well and has the tightest turning circle of any car i've ever driven (great for parking), and that includes several small cars as well. plus the new jeep cherokees are ugly in my opinion i like the old boxy shape, The jeep commander is nice but too big.

Do you guys own farms, then? Or what on earth would you need jeeps for?

I have a Jeep. :cool: right now it's in pieces so I am borrowing a friend's Kia Sephia.......it's totally unlike the Jeep. :(

I too have got a jeep, its a cherokee 1995 model, i could afford a newer car but it has everything i need, runs well and has the tightest turning circle of any car i've ever driven (great for parking), and that includes several small cars as well. plus the new jeep cherokees are ugly in my opinion i like the old boxy shape, The jeep commander is nice but too big.

2002 silver Hyundai Elantra...I love that car

I'll be buying a used car with the remainder of my student loan money. Im looking at an 89'(I think) Passat. I hear VW are a good reliable brand and I've found one for just under $2000.

I don't drive. But I REALLY want to.
It's not all it's cracked up to be. Personally, I think it's actually cheaper for me to walk/bus/train wherever I want to go than buy a car (a few hundred), insure it (a few more hundred a year), tax it (another hundred a year), fuel it (several hundred a year) and maintain it (hopefully wouldn't be too much).

Do you guys own farms, then? Or what on earth would you need jeeps for?

I live(ed) in out back queensland in australia, if i want to visit my parents i have to drive over 100km on unsealed (dirt) roads. not the kind of thing i want to take a expensive sports car on.

I don't drive. And I probably never will.

I live(ed) in out back queensland in australia, if i want to visit my parents i have to drive over 100km on unsealed (dirt) roads. not the kind of thing i want to take a expensive sports car on.

shit yer you need a 4WD out there

Yes, I drive a 2005 Hyundai Elantra. I can't really afford it, though, but oh well.
I also probably shouldn't drive. I suspect that I might have ADD. Fortunately, I don't drive much.

Do you guys own farms, then? Or what on earth would you need jeeps for?

I have explained before why I need a Jeep, I only drive a few days a week, I need to haul a lot of things with me, it all fits in my Jeep. It would waste time and gas money to have a car because I would have to keep making multiple trips back home, not to mention the fact that my kids wouldn't fit in the car when I had my stuff in it. My Jeep gets better gas mileage than a pickup or a minivan, so it's the perfect choice for me.

I drive a black 98 chevy silverado. Nice truck, still looks all shiny and new, probably because a tree landed on it about six months ago and they had to rebuild a lot of the body.


It's got full insurance coverage, so far they've shelled out about $13,000 to fix it. Heh..

I am learning to drive in my parents old 1990 volvo station wagon.

I drive a ford ranger.

I am learning to drive in my parents old 1990 volvo station wagon.

Station wagons.. :(

Hopefully, I'll be a city person and using my feet, or a bus, or a train. God, please build more trains around here! *grunts*

I drive my mum's Echo. It's a nice little car, kind of like driving an easter egg.

I am learning to drive in my parents old 1990 volvo station wagon.

oh no a volvo just a Australian thing

I drive a '93 Accord. Great gas mileage.

I drive all the time. I'm a pizza delivery driver, so I don't get around it. Not that I would want to, I love cars and driving.

At the moment I'm still stuck with my '99 VW Golf 1.6. But I haven't given up hope yet that my finances will be worked out over the next few weeks when my grandma comes here and I'll be able to get myself a '97 Subaru WRX (or a first generation MX-5, that's not fully decided yet).

Way back in 1978, I thought Americans were far too independantly minded to ever pay $1 for a gallon of gas. I sold my car and started riding the bus. After 22 years, I decided the drawbacks of not having a car were outweighing the advantages. I now drive a 10-year-old Subby :cool:

I'm terrified of driving...

Aye. A 1995 Rover 218. It was a freebie (no, not a five-finger discount). It's actually the biggest and most powerful car I've ever had (I tend to favour small hatchbacks), but it still gets 36 miles per (British) gallon doing my usual pottering about. Would you believe once or twice per week to the supermarket* and a couple of round-trips a month to the railway station?

*They don't have anywhere to park my bike, annoyingly - just those one-wheel-only things, which is great... Unless the thief notices you have quick-release skewers or brings a spanner. And spending an hour walking to and from the supermarket in bad weather doesn't appeal; maybe in the summer.

I have a 2002 Toyota Avalon. I live at home instead of the dorms so I have to commute everyday.

i dont drive, dont have a license/permit, dont have a car, etc...

also dont need daily, but probably could use it once in a while. so i intend to get the license, sooner or later

i love to drive.

we drove to yosemite last summer for vacation (just after the heat wave broke!)

we have a 2006 saturn vue, its a replacement for my 2004 vue that got flooded out. *pout*

my car is a 1995/6 4door VW Polo CL 1.4l. although i don't drive it up here at the moment cuz it is currently in storage in jersey until my mum brings it up in june. at the moment i get the bus everywhere which is fine for city life. when i get my car i will probably sell it if i can't find free parking. and if i can't find a flat i will need the money to buy a campervan.

Yup, I drive. As a matter of fact, my job description is 'driver'. (Which is somewhat ironic since I work in a warehouse all day.)

I currently own a 98 Ford Explorer (Eddie Bauer), yet I don't have it on the road as of yet. I realize it's an environmental monster and crap on gas, but I'm not currently in an economic position to turn down the fantastic deal I got when I bought it.

At work, I drive a forklift everyday, and next week I'll be taking courses to upgrade my license to 'D'. (5-ton. I already have my 'Z' endorsement, which means I'm qualified to drive vehicles with air brakes if I have the appropriate license.) This means I'll be driving straight trucks for the purpose of shunting them in the yard at work, or the occasional emergency local run.

I enjoy driving, although I admit I'm not really looking forward to driving straight truck. A necessity of the 'career choice' as it were.

Well NSG, it appears I outclass all of you.

Blue, fuel injected 1977 280z.

Screenies or I call BS!

Fine, but it may take a while, I'm not so good with the camera.

Well NSG, it appears I outclass all of you.

Blue, fuel injected 1977 280z.

Screenies or I call BS!

Fine, but it may take a while, I'm not so good with the camera.

*waits* ;)

I have just begun to practice driving, it will take me three years to get a driver license in my province as a civilian but as a soldier I automatically become a licensed driver after several driving tests in a short time frame, several weeks.

To answer your second question I drive a Crysler GX 2004 version with the little plan at the back to make it look like a race car.

Well NSG, it appears I outclass all of you.

Blue, fuel injected 1977 280z.

bastard! :p

*waits* ;)

The Camera's charging.

Don't worry, there's a '61 'Vette next to the Z so you won't be dissapointed.

*waits* ;)

*also waits*

*taps foot*

The Camera's charging.

Don't worry, there's a '61 'Vette next to the Z so you won't be dissapointed.

buh!? wah!? my eyes have turned green.

I have just begun to practice driving, it will take me three years to get a driver license in my province as a civilian but as a soldier I automatically become a licensed driver after several driving tests in a short time frame, several weeks.

To answer your second question I drive a Crysler GX 2004 version with the little plan at the back to make it look like a race car.

google doesn't know what your car is.

yes, carrea 97' with turbo charged engines and neon back. No body kit apart from a sviper spolier and extra air intakes. :)

google doesn't know what your car is.

Google doesn't, but i do lol :P

*also waits*

*taps foot*

*screams in fury*

*tears out hair*

Toyota Yaris, but I mostly use public transport.
*smells own fart*

Uploading photos guys, hang on for 2 seconds.

Plum 2001 Honda Civic.

My baby.

yes, carrea 97' with turbo charged engines and neon back. No body kit apart from a sviper spolier and extra air intakes. :)

Yesh? Ditto the screenies-or-BS :p

Read 'em and weep, NSG

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7352&id=715900443&saved

Read 'em and weep, NSG

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7352&id=715900443&saved

apparently I've forgotten my password?

Read 'em and weep, NSG

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7352&id=715900443&saved

HAH! Just say "No" to Facebook :p No Photobucket account, so you can get a direct link?

http://www.write-on.co.uk/cinq-2.jpg
Oh yes. I drive http://209.85.12.227/html/emoticons/cool.gif

HAH! Just say "No" to Facebook :p No Photobucket account, so you can get a direct link?

:mad:

EDIT: uploading to Photobucket

Read 'em and weep for real this time, NSG

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/Urara322/?action=view&current=CIMG1010.jpg&slideshow=true&interval=2

EDIT: After like an hour and half, it finally works.

Thanks for making me late on my homework guys.

I officially hate New Stalinberg... :D

Read 'em and weep, NSG

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7352&id=715900443&saved

You fail!

Cannot access.

Read 'em and weep for real this time, NSG

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/Urara322/?action=view&current=CIMG1010.jpg&slideshow=true&interval=2

EDIT: After like an hour and half, it finally works.

Thanks for making me late on my homework guys.

Aha!

I.. *steals*

I drive something that looks a lot like the image on this page. A 2005 Peterbilt 379 with a sleeper cab, TVGWA (Total Vehicle Gross Weight Allowed) 80,000lbs.

http://www.crengland.com/

When I'm home, I either ride my bike, take public transit, or let my wife squire me around. This isn't because I don't like driving on my off days, but all my reactions and habits are geared to being in a very long (50-80 feet depending on the trailer,) heavy truck with air brakes, and being able to see over most traffic. Driving my wife's PT Cruiser scares the shit out of me.

It's a great job. I pretty much get paid to drive around listening to my music and baseball games, and as long as I keep my paperwork straight, make schedule, and don't pile up violations, the bosses are happy.

One final note to all the drivers in this thread. Those signs you see on the backs of rigs? "Warning: Wide Turns" and "If You Can't See My Mirrors, I Can't See You"? We mean it. Rigs have a huge set of blind spots where I have no chance of seeing a car. I can't count the number of times I've started braking and geardown for a slope only to see some fool suddenly shoot out from behind me. Don't cut us off. I sent three people to the hospital when they cut across three lanes of traffic to get to their exit. The driver thought I'd be able to slow down. Cost her and her friends the car, a pile of medical bills, and for the back seat poassenger, her right leg. My truck? Slight damage to the bumper and I burned off enough rubber to need a few new tires. And never pass a big rig on the right. Not only are not going to be seen, we're trained to immediately pull right in a hazard situation.

See y'all on the road!

Not at the moment, though I do ride my bike all over the place (and sometimes walk).

When I do get a car, it'll be an old Honda Civic (1985, I guess). Fantastic gas mileage and fantastic reliability, and they're surprisingly roomy. They drive nicely, too (I had the pleasure of riding in the backseat of a friend's in the early 1990s).

Read 'em and weep, NSG

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=7352&id=715900443&saved

you'd have to 'friend' us to see the pics. i for one am not in you network.

I currently have a 1994 Buick Regal GS. Nice buggy, handles nicely. I drive it around and around, however....

Read 'em and weep for real this time, NSG

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/Urara322/?action=view&current=CIMG1010.jpg&slideshow=true&interval=2

EDIT: After like an hour and half, it finally works.

Thanks for making me late on my homework guys.

ahnice one. worth the wait! i am so jealous! no outside shots so i can't track down the garage and steal them :( :p

edit: wait a minute... homework?? you're a kid and you drive a 280z??! there's no justice in the world :p

yes, carrea 97' with turbo charged engines and neon back. No body kit apart from a sviper spolier and extra air intakes. :)

you mean carrera right? and i'll assume you didn't mean it has two engines!?:p

I drive a 2006 Hyundai (my first brand new car)!

Nope, I don't really have much of a chance to practice (since i'm limited to saturday evenings, the only time I have someone to go take me out). I walk and use public transport instead.

and now the quote you've all been waiting for

'in soviet russia car drives you'

I drive something that looks a lot like the image on this page. A 2005 Peterbilt 379 with a sleeper cab, TVGWA (Total Vehicle Gross Weight Allowed) 80,000lbs.

http://www.crengland.com/

When I'm home, I either ride my bike, take public transit, or let my wife squire me around. This isn't because I don't like driving on my off days, but all my reactions and habits are geared to being in a very long (50-80 feet depending on the trailer,) heavy truck with air brakes, and being able to see over most traffic. Driving my wife's PT Cruiser scares the shit out of me.

It's a great job. I pretty much get paid to drive around listening to my music and baseball games, and as long as I keep my paperwork straight, make schedule, and don't pile up violations, the bosses are happy.

One final note to all the drivers in this thread. Those signs you see on the backs of rigs? "Warning: Wide Turns" and "If You Can't See My Mirrors, I Can't See You"? We mean it. Rigs have a huge set of blind spots where I have no chance of seeing a car. I can't count the number of times I've started braking and geardown for a slope only to see some fool suddenly shoot out from behind me. Don't cut us off. I sent three people to the hospital when they cut across three lanes of traffic to get to their exit. The driver thought I'd be able to slow down. Cost her and her friends the car, a pile of medical bills, and for the back seat poassenger, her right leg. My truck? Slight damage to the bumper and I burned off enough rubber to need a few new tires. And never pass a big rig on the right. Not only are not going to be seen, we're trained to immediately pull right in a hazard situation.

See y'all on the road!

I know exactly where you're coming from. With the amount of commercial vehicle traffic on the highways these days, learning how to share the road with large trucks should be part of driver education.

That's not to say there aren't some bad truck drivers out there. There are some REALLY bad ones...

Incidentally, what do you haul?

Read 'em and weep for real this time, NSG

http://s160.photobucket.com/albums/t197/Urara322/?action=view&current=CIMG1010.jpg&slideshow=true&interval=2

EDIT: After like an hour and half, it finally works.

Thanks for making me late on my homework guys.

You're welcome :)

Oh, and edirnikcufecin :cool:

I'll be buying a used car with the remainder of my student loan money. Im looking at an 89'(I think) Passat. I hear VW are a good reliable brand and I've found one for just under $2000.
There's a dark spot in VW that is just ending where the build quality isn't so good, and I say this as a die hard VW man. I think '89s are alright, but you might want to check consumer report sites to make sure.

Well NSG, it appears I outclass all of you.

Blue, fuel injected 1977 280z.
I was going to say "Not so fast," but yours is in nice enough condition, but I still got some class-

Meet Veronica:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4507/mybabyiw0.jpg
my spit window 67 VW Microbus with camper package (no pop up). She's been my main ride for over 10 years. I still have her and last week in fact she was in regular duty.

After college I got The Lego:
http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/6897/thelegoql4.jpg
Cargostyle (well, emptied out to be cargo style, it still has windows) '85 Vanagon. I use it for work.

Except now, where for my current gig I take the train because I don't need the vans, it takes about the same amount of time and costs half as much.

I can drive, but don't have my license yet. As far as cars of mine go...

I have a '93 Nissan Z convertible (very rare model), and a '74 Dodge motorhome which has a nice 360 in it which I want to hotrod. However, I also want to get a 1st gen Mustang to use as a daily driver for school while the 360 is torn apart.

Yes, a '97 Peugeot 306.

And if so, then what? The work truck for my delivery job.

If not, then how do you get around?I have this infamous tent ....
...and the rest of the time as mutters of curse on people's breath, even times as a flitting but persistent nag in the corner of the mind.

I drive a '95 Dodge Neon...just broke 127k miles yesterday.

I commute to school and drive to work every weekday. I really would like it if my city would spring for better public transportation, but we simply don't have the tax base to fund anything extensive. I walk/bus in the summer when I can, but in winter it's drive, drive, drive.

I would love to move to a big city where I don't require a car...the drivers around here are fucking idiots. :mad:

Meet Veronica:
http://img294.imageshack.us/img294/4507/mybabyiw0.jpg
my spit window 67 VW Microbus with camper package (no pop up). She's been my main ride for over 10 years. I still have her and last week in fact she was in regular duty.


The VolkesToker!

When I'm in Michigan I drive a 1999 Mazda MX-5. At the moment, however, I ride the bus around the city and take the TGV whenever I go elsewhere.

My Mazda

http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a353/tuebor/CIMG0609.jpg

I know exactly where you're coming from. With the amount of commercial vehicle traffic on the highways these days, learning how to share the road with large trucks should be part of driver education.

That's not to say there aren't some bad truck drivers out there. There are some REALLY bad ones...

Incidentally, what do you haul?

LOL! The highways in America were built for interstate hauling. It's the passenger cars are the interlopers :p

Renault Megané 2.0 -97. Possibly the WORST peice of junk ever created! Next time I'm buying a car, it will be a Volvo! :P Damn you French "car" manufacturers, stop building the engines of plywood!

no, it's useless in Warsaw.

I drive a 17-year-old VW Polo (1050 cm^3, gasoline, 33 kW, top speed about 160 km/h).
I prefer, though, going around with trams and trains. Underground and trolleybuses are ok, too. Buses are somewhat smelly. Taxis are too expensive.
Also I like walking and riding bicycle.

cars are far too complicated and oily for me, plus I hate driving around especially when its just a “drive” whatever orgasm of fun that is supposed to be

Course it’s a bitch that all my mates have cars and there moto….noise with wheels

I drive a 2006 Hyundai (my first brand new car)!

And may it give you many minutes of pleasure.

And may it give you many minutes of pleasure.

Cruel! :D

I have a driver's license but no car. Not worth the hassle or the money considering I can walk or take the bus pretty much anywhere I need to go.

i don't drive because:
i'm to lazy to learn it.
it costs to much.
it would be dangerous if i went out and i drunk.
i can cycle to most things nearby (and there is a bus nearly every hour at 10m from my home if i want to go to the city).
it's not that much faster than a bus during the morning when i could use it to go to school + it's worse for the environment + it's more expensive.
i don't want my parents saying i don't need to rent a room close to my uni because now i can drive to school.

Work - 2006 Vauhal Astra 1.7 TDi

Personal - 1994 Vauxhall Astra 1.4

What I want - 1967 Ford Mustang Fastback 390GT

i want one of these:

http://images.intellichoice.com/images/AutoShows/Big/112_05fas_honda_civic_s.jpg

And if so, then what?

If not, then how do you get around?


I drive a 1994 purple chevy cavalier. I hope it dies soon so i can get a new car :D

I hate it, but I have to drive. I live in a place where you can't really get by without a car. So I drive a '99 Hyundai Accent, two-door, navy blue except in the places where the clear coat has peeled away. 5-speed standard, A/C, CD-player, gets 30+ mpg in the city and cost me $1800 nearly two years ago.

Part of the reason I hate driving? When I lived in San Francisco, I paid less per month for a FastPass than I do for minimum car insurance on my little beater here.

i want one of these:

http://images.intellichoice.com/images/AutoShows/Big/112_05fas_honda_civic_s.jpg

Too modern. I think the classics are the best, for style and noise.

I hate it, but I have to drive. I live in a place where you can't really get by without a car. So I drive a '99 Hyundai Accent, two-door, navy blue except in the places where the clear coat has peeled away. 5-speed standard, A/C, CD-player, gets 30+ mpg in the city and cost me $1800 nearly two years ago.

Part of the reason I hate driving? When I lived in San Francisco, I paid less per month for a FastPass than I do for minimum car insurance on my little beater here.

Perhaps you wouldn't hate driving so much if you didn't have a Hyundai Accent.

Too modern. I think the classics are the best, for style and noise.

in most cases i'd agree (apart from the noise, in which case i want it quiet)... i don't much like the usual jellymould cars you see these days, but this car is just cool :)

plus it gets the better part of 50 MPG and thats awesome, as well as a glass roof and other cool gadgets :cool:

Perhaps you wouldn't hate driving so much if you didn't have a Hyundai Accent.

heh, yeh i don't understand people who hate driving. unless all their driving is done in cities, in which case why don't they walk or take public transport? although i understand most of the US is still in the dark ages public transport-wise

If by drive you mean walk, then yes, yes I do.

Perhaps you wouldn't hate driving so much if you didn't have a Hyundai Accent.

Nah. My car is just fine--it's dealing with traffic that I hate, and no individual vehicle is going to change that issue. And my issues with traffic are made worse by the fact that I live in an area where every third driver is ancient, and every other driver is from somewhere else, and there's no common basis for local traffic etiquette. Add in too many cars in too little space and you have a recipe for mass frustration.

heh, yeh i don't understand people who hate driving. unless all their driving is done in cities, in which case why don't they walk or take public transport? although i understand most of the US is still in the dark ages public transport-wiseSouth Florida certainly is. If I want to take a bus any real distance, I'd better get on it 2 hours before I have to get there, minimum. And then hope it's running on time.

Vauxhall...oh, that's what we call Opel overhere. I physically don't fit in those (the corsa at least, don't have the money for the bigger ones)... I have a Renault Clio instead, about the same size on the outside, but much spacier on the inside and drives quite nice I must say. Quite economical as well... 16 km/l is not so bad ;) (if you want miles/gallon, you can do the calcualtion yourself :p )

A car can be quite convenient for getting somewhere, except when "somewhere" is in the inner-city...then I prefer public transport or bicycle.

Nah. My car is just fine--it's dealing with traffic that I hate, and no individual vehicle is going to change that issue. And my issues with traffic are made worse by the fact that I live in an area where every third driver is ancient, and every other driver is from somewhere else, and there's no common basis for local traffic etiquette. Add in too many cars in too little space and you have a recipe for mass frustration.

I agree older drivers should be banned unless they can prove that they can hack driving in a modern environment and not go at 50% of the speed limit - I was driving down the A49 last week behind a Nissan Micra with a coffin dodger behind the wheel. This road is national speed limit and the sod went 30mph for 4 MILES! As for city driving, sometimes I drive 7-8hours a day, often in built up areas, there are methods to control other drivers behaviour and make the experience more accomodating.

i want one of these (http://www.meinekarre.de/cars/Lancia_Delta_HF_Integrale_Evoluzione_ul28.jpg)

I drive, but it depends on who's left their car unlocked at the time ;)

I agree older drivers should be banned unless they can prove that they can hack driving in a modern environment and not go at 50% of the speed limit - I was driving down the A49 last week behind a Nissan Micra with a coffin dodger behind the wheel. This road is national speed limit and the sod went 30mph for 4 MILES! As for city driving, sometimes I drive 7-8hours a day, often in built up areas, there are methods to control other drivers behaviour and make the experience more accomodating.

I know that, but given a choice, I'd rather just leave the driving to someone else, even on long distances. I like trains and busses--I'm far more relaxed when I get to where I'm going and I rarely feel the need to flip anyone off. ;)

i want one of these (http://www.meinekarre.de/cars/Lancia_Delta_HF_Integrale_Evoluzione_ul28.jpg)

That is one ugly car. It looks like a VW Golf that Britney Spears has had a go at with an umbrella. Your not German are you?

Nah. My car is just fine--it's dealing with traffic that I hate, and no individual vehicle is going to change that issue. And my issues with traffic are made worse by the fact that I live in an area where every third driver is ancient, and every other driver is from somewhere else, and there's no common basis for local traffic etiquette. Add in too many cars in too little space and you have a recipe for mass frustration.

Here's a vehicle to solve your traffic woes:

http://www.militaryfactory.com/armor/imgs/abrams.jpg


Though fuel economy is horrid!

And if so, then what?

If not, then how do you get around?


I drive a 1994 purple chevy cavalier. I hope it dies soon so i can get a new car :D

3 vehicles
05 Chev 2500 silveraudo Extended Cab Diesel
88 Jeep Wrangler (heavily modified)
05 impala

My jeep
http://www.upwardthrust.us/jeep5.jpg (put it on the new server so should be faster) (Edit: holy page breaking god I will link it)

Do you drive?

Nope. And that probably for the best for everyone concerned.

My history re driving:
1983 - I just managed to pass Drivers Ed
1984 - I manage to fail my driving test twice.
1985 - I fail my test again. I also have a minor accident while practicing.
1986 - I have another minor accident while practicing.
1987 - I take 3 months of special driving school classes, but fail yet again.
1988 - I take the test for the last time. I fail by having yet another accident.

After that I basically gave up. 5 Tries in 5 years, with 3 accidents, including one during my last try, was enough to convince me the world is safer without me behind the wheel of a car.

If not, then how do you get around?

Japanese public transportation is great. I live within easy walking distance of 3 different train lines and several bus routes.

South Florida certainly is. If I want to take a bus any real distance, I'd better get on it 2 hours before I have to get there, minimum. And then hope it's running on time.

that sucks really hard. buses round here are every 5 minutes with bus stops every 500metres or so on the main routes and i only have to walk five minutes to my nearest one. although at busy times with that many stops and traffic lights it can be a bit of a drag stopping and starting every 30 seconds, at least public transport has its own designated lanes so they're largely free of traffic.

That is one ugly car. It looks like a VW Golf that Britney Spears has had a go at with an umbrella. Your not German are you?

lol,no, i'm from jersey so technically british, although the island was occupied by the german army for about 5 years during WW2. but that car is italian, designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro's Ital Design company. but it certainly isn't the prettiest of cars, to me it looks menacing and that i like :D

lol,no, i'm from jersey so technically british, although the island was occupied by the german army for about 5 years during WW2. but that car is italian, designed by Giorgetto Giugiaro's Ital Design company. but it certainly isn't the prettiest of cars, to me it looks menacing and that i like :D

From Jersey? I suppose you know Bergerac then. That German occupation must be the reason you like cars that look like VW Golfs with D.I.Y panel beating. :p

Giorgetto Giugiaro's Ital Design did the 1965 Bertone Ford Mustang. How did they go on to do that??

more pictures of my jeep (on old server so large and slow but it is awsome)

http://geek.upwardthrust.us/pictures/jeep/jeep1.jpg

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From Jersey? I suppose you know Bergerac then. That German occupation must be the reason you like cars that look like VW Golfs with D.I.Y panel beating. :p

Giorgetto Giugiaro's Ital Design did the 1965 Bertone Ford Mustang. How did they go on to do that??

lol, well to be fair Ital Design's car looked more like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Lancia_delta.jpg/800px-Lancia_delta.jpg) and the ugly bits were added on for rally homologation along with tuning and stuff.

that sucks really hard. buses round here are every 5 minutes with bus stops every 500metres or so on the main routes and i only have to walk five minutes to my nearest one. although at busy times with that many stops and traffic lights it can be a bit of a drag stopping and starting every 30 seconds, at least public transport has its own designated lanes so they're largely free of traffic.
Which is the way it is in San Francisco, at least with the main bus lines, and if you can walk to a BART station, you'll rarely wait more than ten for any individual train. Give me that over fighting for lane and parking space any day.

lol, well to be fair Ital Design's car looked more like this (http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Lancia_delta.jpg/800px-Lancia_delta.jpg) and the ugly bits were added on for rally homologation along with tuning and stuff.

Now I see. They also designed the Fiat Uno (my first car). I think these kind of cars can be attributed to monday morning hangovers and the "I just can't be f*cked" attitude that accompanies.

By the way - can you actually smell the French from Jersey?

Which is the way it is in San Francisco, at least with the main bus lines, and if you can walk to a BART station, you'll rarely wait more than ten for any individual train. Give me that over fighting for lane and parking space any day.

cool, we're getting trams sometime soon, 2008 i think. it's going to be so much better, edinburgh's the perfect place for trams.

Well NSG, it appears I outclass all of you.

Blue, fuel injected 1977 280z.It's tiny.

heh, yeh i don't understand people who hate driving. Heh. I don't understand people who like driving.

Yes, I drive. 275-300 yards with a nice shallow draw on the ball. It's putting I have a hard time with.

Okay, okay.

I drive a 2002 Honda Civic Si, it is black, and yes, I love it.

Now I see. They also designed the Fiat Uno (my first car). I think these kind of cars can be attributed to monday morning hangovers and the "I just can't be f*cked" attitude that accompanies.

By the way - can you actually smell the French from Jersey?

err, no. but apparently english visitors think it's like france. which is odd, cuz french visitors come for a taste of britain without having to deal with actual british people. it really is about as much of an british/french hybrid as you're ever likely to find. british shopping chains, immitation french cuisine, french place/road names, british nimbyism, british education curriculum. basically the old stuff is french (or more properly norman) and the new stuff is british.

trams and busses were great in Amsterdam. that, plus the canal bus (not public transport but not too expensive) meant we could get around the whole city amazingly easily and cheap :)

Toyota Yaris - the advert says 'Bigsmall'

Well they got the 'small' part right. It's economical enough, but it is easier to put an octopus in a string bag than it is for me to get my golf clubs in the boot.

Japanese public transportation is great. I live within easy walking distance of 3 different train lines and several bus routes.

QFT.

If the US had trains like Japan has trains, I'd sell my car tomorrow.

It's tiny.

Heh. I don't understand people who like driving.

and i don't think i could explain it with any degree of satisfaction. it's just fun when you have an open road and an opportunity to push the limits. plus there's the freedom of not having to rely on anyone else (or one's own physical limitations) to get somewhere in the everyday context. and there are places that public transport just can't/won't go and are too far to walk. a perfect illustration of driving being an the best option is when i was in new zealand i wanted to go to the most easterly point of the country to watch the sunrise, there was no regualar public transport that went within tens of miles of the point and the road to it was about 30 miles of fairly well maintained and cambered dirt track (a long and uncomfortable bike ride and even longer hike, but a thrilling drive). and there's something indescribably awesome about having something so powerful at one's control. especially when you know it well and can eek out the best possible performance for the conditions, being able to balance that power and poise over ever-changing road conditons provides a wonderful thrill and sense of satisfaction.

err, no. but apparently english visitors think it's like france. which is odd, cuz french visitors come for a taste of britain without having to deal with actual british people. it really is about as much of an british/french hybrid as you're ever likely to find. british shopping chains, immitation french cuisine, french place/road names, british nimbyism, british education curriculum. basically the old stuff is french (or more properly norman) and the new stuff is british.

I saw France once - from Dover on a clear day. Never been though. The French seem to a bit snobbish despite that showy and rather ostentascious revolution.

and i don't think i could explain it with any degree of satisfaction. it's just fun when you have an open road and an opportunity to push the limits. plus there's the freedom of not having to rely on anyone else (or one's own physical limitations) to get somewhere in the everyday context. and there are places that public transport just can't/won't go and are too far to walk. a perfect illustration of driving being an the best option is when i was in new zealand i wanted to go to the most easterly point of the country to watch the sunrise, there was no regualar public transport that went within tens of miles of the point and the road to it was about 30 miles of fairly well maintained and cambered dirt track (a long and uncomfortable bike ride and even longer hike, but a thrilling drive). and there's something indescribably awesome about having something so powerful at one's control. especially when you know it well and can eek out the best possible performance for the conditions, being able to balance that power and poise over ever-changing road conditons provides a wonderful thrill and sense of satisfaction.I can understand the necessity of driving, or the good things that can come from driving, but I can't see how the act of driving itself is fun.
With how many thousands of people it kills per year, to me it's like saying heart disease is fun.

I saw France once - from Dover on a clear day. Never been though. The French seem to a bit snobbish despite that showy and rather ostentascious revolution.

well how do you know if you've never been? i think the french are only snobby if you don't make an attempt to speek french to them, which is the same anywhere.

btw way is that a quote from somewhere (the "showy and rather ostentatious revolution")? i'm sure i've heard it before.

With how many thousands of people it kills per year, to me it's like saying heart disease is fun.

but that's like saying cheeseburgers taste horrible because eating too much can cause heart disease. it's irresponsible or unattentive drivers, not the activity of driving itself, that cause road accidents. just as it is over-indulgence in cheeseburgers, not the cheesebger itself, which causes heart disease.

well how do you know if you've never been? i think the french are only snobby if you don't make an attempt to speek french to them, which is the same anywhere.

btw way is that a quote from somewhere (the "showy and rather ostentatious revolution")? i'm sure i've heard it before.

It's in 'The Little Engalnder's Handbook - A Xenophobic guide to Europe and Johnny Foreigner' ISBN 1-185479-553-8, by Major Oswald Kitchener (RET'D)

well how do you know if you've never been? i think the french are only snobby if you don't make an attempt to speek french to them, which is the same anywhere.

btw way is that a quote from somewhere (the "showy and rather ostentatious revolution")? i'm sure i've heard it before.

It's in 'The Little Engalnder's Handbook - A Xenophobic guide to Europe and Johnny Foreigner' ISBN 1-185479-553-8, by Major Oswald Kitchener (RET'D)

ah, i probably read a book review of it or maybe clarkson quoted from it, sounds like something he'd say.

I saw France once - from Dover on a clear day. Never been though. The French seem to a bit snobbish despite that showy and rather ostentascious revolution.How can you tell if they're snobbish from viewing them from so far away?

but that's like saying cheeseburgers taste horrible because eating too much can cause heart disease. it's irresponsible or unattentive drivers, not the activity of driving itself, that cause road accidents. just as it is over-indulgence in cheeseburgers, not the cheesebger itself, which causes heart disease.I can't separate in my mind the act of driving from the irresponsible and inattentive drivers (and pedestrians). I can, though separate the taste of cheeseburgers from the ill health effects of overindulgence.

How can you tell if they're snobbish from viewing them from so far away?

I can't separate in my mind the act of driving from the irresponsible and inattentive drivers (and pedestrians). I can, though separate the taste of cheeseburgers from the ill health effects of overindulgence.

oh well, i guess if you don't enjoy driving and have subsequently rationalised it there's no persuading you :p. i don't enjoy regular exercise, particularly running, because i never get to the point where all the endorfins are supposed to get produced before i feel like i'm about to die. i guess that's vaguely similar - risk of death considered above and before enjoyment.

I drive a blue 2004 BMW X3 3.0i. It's great.

2003 corolla

If not, then how do you get around?


I use a bike. It's cheap, easy, healthy and fast enough to get me where I need to be. For longer distances I use a train, airplane or whatever gets me to my destination cheap.

Walk, bike, and public transportation

I used to drive a 2004 Honda Civic. Then I moved to the city and got rid of it.

Public Transportation in Chicago is so awesome. Its great, I can read, or even sleep on the bus/train. I dont have to worry about accidents or insurance/gas and since I am in school, I get to ride it for free.

I was born with an eye condition called Nystagmus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nystagmus). Since I was a child my opthamologist told me I wouldn't be able to get a licence because my vision didn't mean the minimum requiremnt. Obviously this is pretty devastating for a teenage male. When I was 18 I lied on an application for a learners permit and got it. Eventually I decided I wanted to go for the real thing, and a different opthamologist said I might be able to get one if I went for a drive with an occupational therapist, but he said he didn't like my chances. I did it anyway and she said that even though my eye-sight didn't fit the requirements she thought I could still drive safely. That was a month ago (and one of the best days of my life) and need to go for an actual test when I go home from uni in a few months.

That's my courageous story.

I was born with an eye condition called Nystagmus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nystagmus). Since I was a child my opthamologist told me I wouldn't be able to get a licence because my vision didn't mean the minimum requiremnt. Obviously this is pretty devastating for a teenage male. When I was 18 I lied on an application for a learners permit and got it. Eventually I decided I wanted to go for the real thing, and a different opthamologist said I might be able to get one if I went for a drive with an occupational therapist, but he said he didn't like my chances. I did it anyway and she said that even though my eye-sight didn't fit the requirements she thought I could still drive safely. That was a month ago (and one of the best days of my life) and need to go for an actual test when I go home from uni in a few months.

That's my courageous story.

oh i never heard of that condition. that sucks :(. i guess it's not currently curable?

oh i never heard of that condition. that sucks :(. i guess it's not currently curable?

Nope. There are some drug trials in the US but nothing on the market. In twenty years though I'm sure they'll be something that'll help. Doesn't matter much to me anymore though; I can drive. It did suck to have to sit in the front row at school though lol.

Nope. There are some drug trials in the US but nothing on the market. In twenty years though I'm sure they'll be something that'll help. Doesn't matter much to me anymore though; I can drive. It did suck to have to sit in the front row at school though lol.
i'm glad you were deemed capable of driving, i'd have been totally gutted if i was told i couldn't drive for a medical reason, like when i was a kid i used to want to be a pilot in the RAF i entered into the whole selection procedure and got through most of the process of interviews and stuff but then during the medicals i chickened out and admitted i had a history of asthma and migraines and they said i couldn't be a pilot. i was totally gutted by that although i'm now quite happy i never followed that path.

QFT.

If the US had trains like Japan has trains, I'd sell my car tomorrow.

And just for the record, all of Japan's railways are private or semi-private (see JR - formerly national railway with some subsidies) and at least half of the railway lines I use on a regular basis (ie at least twice weekly) are completely private railways with 0 government subsidy.

It is notable as well that Japanese employers generaly subsidize their employee's transport costs. :D I get a (roughly) $150 month allowance for train fare.

I can't drive, and I don't really want to learn. The only reason I'd buy a car would be for aesthetic reasons. I've got no real reason to own a car atm... I can walk to my seminars and that and I'm not too far out from city centre...

Yes. A car is unnecessary.

I drive a '93 Dodge Grand Caravan.

I love it.

I do not drive. It is environmentally irresponsible. I can bike, blade, or bus to anywhere worth going (Or simply walk).

Some of you folks speak of "buses" and "trains." What are these things you speak of? Mass Transit? We do not have these in the bustling metropolis of Keeseville, New York (Go ahead, just try to find it on a map). I drive a 1997 Chevrolet Lumina with 67,000 miles on it. Bought it from some old lady that didn't drive :D

EDIT: Walking also impossible as anywhere worth going is over 8 miles away.

And if so, then what?

If not, then how do you get around?


I drive a 1994 purple chevy cavalier. I hope it dies soon so i can get a new car :D

My daily driver in the Michigan winter is a '03 Ford Mustang. In the summer I drive a '68 Mustang Fastback whenever I have a chance.

Some of you folks speak of "buses" and "trains." What are these things you speak of? Mass Transit? We do not have these in the bustling metropolis of Keeseville, New York (Go ahead, just try to find it on a map). I drive a 1997 Chevrolet Lumina with 67,000 miles on it. Bought it from some old lady that didn't drive :D

EDIT: Walking also impossible as anywhere worth going is over 8 miles away.That wouldn't be that there place near Vermont, would it now?

I use a big car with a driver

(the bus)

And if so, then what?

If not, then how do you get around?


I drive a 1994 purple chevy cavalier. I hope it dies soon so i can get a new car :D
Yes i do.
I have a decent Cover Drive and an On Drive but can't really play the off drive, i prefer to tuck them around the corner.

1964 VW Beetle:


http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/6707/myvwbeetle006oc7.jpg

I saw France once - from Dover on a clear day. Never been though. The French seem to a bit snobbish despite that showy and rather ostentascious revolution.

I've found the French to be extremely friendly and hospitable. Of course, I don't live in Paris, so that may have something to do with it.

Some of you folks speak of "buses" and "trains." What are these things you speak of? Mass Transit? We do not have these in the bustling metropolis of Keeseville, New York (Go ahead, just try to find it on a map). I drive a 1997 Chevrolet Lumina with 67,000 miles on it. Bought it from some old lady that didn't drive :D

EDIT: Walking also impossible as anywhere worth going is over 8 miles away.

LOL @ metropolis.

Google Earth found it STRAIGHT away. :D Pop. 1,850 - according to it.

As for me, I live in Sydney, Australia, which has an extensive (though somewhat run-down) PT network. Usual transportation for me is one of THESE:

http://www.cityrail.info/aboutus/trains/rs_control.jsp

Now, imagine that, packed to the rafters on a hot summer's day...

That is Sydney's transport, folks!