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Which one do you think you have?

I'm just a normal idiot, really...

There was a linky to an online test for this, in a thread many moons ago. I remember I was antisocial, borderline, and something else. . . *goes off in search of thread*

edit to add: Poll should be multichoice :(

I'm not sure what it's called, but how about the one where the sufferer has an almost uncontrollable urge to throttle people who create threads and polls encouraging people to flaunt their mental instabilities and possible chemical imbalances? :p :rolleyes:

I don't think I have one.......I have seen a few around here though..I won't mention names.

The first sign something's wrong with you: You think there's nothing wrong with you :fluffle:

Blah! with the time warps!!!!

I don't think I have one.......I have seen a few around here though..I won't mention names.

Of course you wont....*leans over and tell the therepist, "this one is Paranoid, that is a clear sign"*

Probably all of them...except narcissistic, as im far too ugly for that:D

And whats wrong with a little personality disorder? Mine just adds quirkyness.

I have dependency issues.

Ouch.

I don't think I have one.......I have seen a few around here though..I won't mention names.

I don't think I have one.......I have seen a few around here though..I won't mention names.

You should.

Or we'll think you're conspiring against us.

Am I a bad person because I have been clinicly diagnosed as Narcissistic; other wise known as a megalomaniac.

Narcissistic for sure, plus some anger managment issues and depressiveness

I have dependency issues.

i have sometimes i would like to go nuts and kill people disorder

There was a linky to an online test for this, in a thread many moons ago. I remember I was antisocial, borderline, and something else. . . *goes off in search of thread*

edit to add: Poll should be multichoice :(

Ah, there in the poll choices: Also narcissistic and avoidant. Woot!

The first sign something's wrong with you: You think there's nothing wrong with you :fluffle:

Blah! with the time warps!!!!

oh, I know something is wrong with me.......I have all kinds of mental health problems, just not a personality disorder. :D

Yup. Which is why I stay away from prescription painkillers. Even when they're necessary. I generally just bear through the pain, because it's better than NEEDING the bloody Percoset after the fact.

True, at least you don't have to suffer through the urges to tear someone apart because you can't control them, like I do.:(

Ouch.

Yup. Which is why I stay away from prescription painkillers. Even when they're necessary. I generally just bear through the pain, because it's better than NEEDING the bloody Percoset after the fact.

The 'meh' personality disorder, where I need a huge run-up to actually care about anything.

I don't have any actually. Though I do have depression and anxiety.

The 'meh' personality disorder, where I need a huge run-up to actually care about anything.

I am like that too, only more severe, if it doesn't directly affect me. I don't give a fuck.

Am I a bad person because I have been clinicly diagnosed as Narcissistic; other wise known as a megalomaniac.

No, because it's out of your hands.

If you have a chemical imbalance that generates NPD, it's not something you made a conscious choice to have.

You're fine.

No, because it's out of your hands.

If you have a chemical imbalance that generates NPD, it's not something you made a conscious choice to have.

You're fine.

thank you. but it is a little strange to have morbid fantasies, of ruling the world in my own image. I am serious, if I had to choose between the love of my life and ruling the world, I would choose ruling the world and would probably end up becoming a mass murderer. BUT, that only happens everyonce and while, the weed keeps it under control. So I am more laid back.

Having pondered my fantasies of being God, to the point of seriously thinking about what I would change, I realised I'd probably leave everything just like it is, and go off to contemplate something more interesting than humanity's affairs :eek:

I wish I was god, I would kill of humanity and create something with more common sense and less ego.

thank you. but it is a little strange to have morbid fantasies, of ruling the world in my own image. I am serious, if I had to choose between the love of my life and ruling the world, I would choose ruling the world and would probably end up becoming a mass murderer. BUT, that only happens everyonce and while, the weed keeps it under control. So I am more laid back.

True.

Then again, I occasionally jones for cigarettes despite only having had them a few times (though part of it is probably the whole pack I split with a friend at a party a few months back)

You didn't mention Obsessive Compulsive Disorder, now I have to put other :(

thank you. but it is a little strange to have morbid fantasies, of ruling the world in my own image. I am serious, if I had to choose between the love of my life and ruling the world, I would choose ruling the world and would probably end up becoming a mass murderer. BUT, that only happens everyonce and while, the weed keeps it under control. So I am more laid back.

Having pondered my fantasies of being God, to the point of seriously thinking about what I would change, I realised I'd probably leave everything just like it is, and go off to contemplate something more interesting than humanity's affairs :eek:

And what is crazy about preparing for our new penguin overlords by getting used to their mandatory no-clothes laws.

I wish I was god, I would kill of humanity and create something with more common sense and less ego.

But wouldn't they be less interesting?

But wouldn't they be less interesting?

No I would make them have year long periods of extreme violence, every thirty years. The bloody wars would be fun to watch from my cloud in the skys. Who's bringing popcorn?

But wouldn't they be less interesting?

If by "less interesting" you mean "less stupid" then yes.

If by "less interesting" you mean "less stupid" then yes.

That is also true, but aren't you human, so I would have to kill you too. :(

I am, if it means I can sit up there too without being annihilated.

sure, but make sure you get the buttery stuff, if you bring the dry original crap I'll throw you off my cloud and shoot lightning bolts at you as you fall. Hahahah!

No I would make them have year long periods of extreme violence, every thirty years. The bloody wars would be fun to watch from my cloud in the skys. Who's bringing popcorn?

I am, if it means I can sit up there too without being annihilated.

That is also true, but aren't you human, so I would have to kill you too. :(

Yeah, but considering the grand scheme of things that shouldn't be enough to discourage you.

None. I am, however, a bit OCD-ish, and fit the description of schizoid very well. Came with my Tourette's and AS.

Yeah, but considering the grand scheme of things that shouldn't be enough to discourage you.

True, *cocks gun and points it a Compulsive Depression*, yoohoo, behind you!

True, *cocks gun and points it a Compulsive Depression*, yoohoo, behind you!

Pfft, a gun? What kind of god are you? Rubbish! Even that pathetic little Christian god turned people in to pillars of salt and things. Is a gun really the best you can do?

Pfft, a gun? What kind of god are you? Rubbish! Even that pathetic little Christian god turned people in to pillars of salt and things. Is a gun really the best you can do?

Fine, *God appears in your computer screen and rips Compulsive Depressions face off, makes Compulsive Depression eat it. THEN turns him/her into a pillar of salt. Then grinds it up and puts it on the popcorn!*

Social anxiety disorder.
*flees*

Social anxiety disorder.
*flees*

*Being the god he is, Undbagarten laughs and thows lightning bolts at Dexlysia systematicly cuting him limb from limb!*

No one's going to comment on me being antisocial, avoidant, borderline, and narcissistic?

What do you mean, disorder? :confused: We don't have any, at least...

Having just figured out what Avoidant Personality Disorder is yesterday, i'm pretty sure it fits me to the letter. :/

Having just figured out what Avoidant Personality Disorder is yesterday, i'm pretty sure it fits me to the letter. :/Eep, why, what is it?

Eep, why, what is it?

quoted from the wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant_personality_disorder):

Avoidant personality disorder (sometimes abbreviated APD or AvPD), or anxious personality disorder, is a personality disorder characterized by a pervasive pattern of social inhibition, feelings of inadequacy, extreme sensitivity to negative evaluation and avoiding social interaction. People with avoidant personality disorder often consider themselves to be socially inept or personally unappealing, and avoid social interaction for fear of being ridiculed, humiliated, or disliked. They typically present themselves as loners and report feeling a sense of alienation from society.

Avoidant personality disorder usually is first noticed in early adulthood, and is associated with perceived or actual rejection by parent or peers during childhood. Whether the feeling of rejection is due to the extreme interpersonal monitoring attributed to people with the disorder is still an open question.

quoted from wiki:

Oh boy. I so have some of those. Only some, though.

Here, have an unavoidant fluffle :fluffle: (<-- totally unavoidant) and cheer up already.

I have Leave Me Alone Disorder or LeMAD

Obssessive, Compulsive, Addictive, Dependant, or plainly confused? :confused:

Oh boy. I so have some of those. Only some, though.


Well, I read it and I was like "aw, fuck, that's me..." pretty much all of them. Plus, I can even see that it comes from peer rejection when I was a kid...at least I don't have it to a crippling level (agoraphobia) or anything...

Here, have an unavoidant fluffle :fluffle: (<-- totally unavoidant) and cheer up already.

Thankyou :fluffle: But maybe my problem is that I physically can't "cheer up". :/

Thankyou :fluffle: But maybe my problem is that I physically can't "cheer up". :/Well, if you honestly feel that's true then you're also smart enough to know that you should see a therapist. Right?

Well, if you honestly feel that's true then you're also smart enough to know that you should see a therapist. Right?

Are you nuts? They mention "social skills training" in that article. Am I like a dog that needs to be socialised or something? I'm not THAT bad. I do have a fair few friends. :P

But I mean, maybe i'm just predisposed to poor self esteem. (And actually, I find the prospect of therapy extremely embarrassing should it become public knowledge...especially so since i'd have to ask my parents for the money...I guess that's in keeping with that wiki article.)

Which one do you think you have?

Funny.

quoted from the wiki article (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avoidant_personality_disorder):

oh fuck yeah, that is so me too :eek:

its not that i'm "antisocial" in that i prefer to be alone, or dislike social situations, its just that i get terrified about being thought of stupidly or something, or can't cope with the way my old friends (who have now all but shunned me as a result of this) jokingly put each other down and stuff.

interesting. at uni when i was most depressed i thought i had social anxiety or something at least..

Are you nuts? They mention "social skills training" in that article. Am I like a dog that needs to be socialised or something? I'm not THAT bad. I do have a fair few friends. :P

But I mean, maybe i'm just predisposed to poor self esteem. (And actually, I find the prospect of therapy extremely embarrassing should it become public knowledge...especially so since i'd have to ask my parents for the money...I guess that's in keeping with that wiki article.)Well, then you're smart enough to know that if you won't let somebody else help you with it and if you think it's not all that bad to begin with, you will have to work on it yourself. Right?

oh fuck yeah, that is so me too :eek:

its not that i'm "antisocial" in that i prefer to be alone, or dislike social situations, its just that i get terrified about being thought of stupidly or something, or can't cope with the way my old friends (who have now all but shunned me as a result of this) jokingly put each other down and stuff.

interesting. at uni when i was most depressed i thought i had social anxiety or something at least..

Yes, that's exactly it! I'll refrain on making comments because they might be "too nerdy" and people might dislike me, or conversely come across as an idiot (unless they're close friends and I am comfortable in talking about whatever)...and yeah, I had trouble with friends jokingly putting me down...I always took it to heart and then confused myself as to whether they were serious or not. That's mostly stopped now that i'm not at school, though...but that's also because I don't see most of my old friends all that much anymore.

Eh. But especially when meeting new people, i'm always self conscious about any little fuckup on my part. And then I end up being seen as the quiet weird guy. Sigh.
Aw, come on, now you're making me feel bad - those are all things I do, too. :(

Well, then you're smart enough to know that if you won't let somebody else help you with it and if you think it's not all that bad to begin with, you will have to work on it yourself. Right?

I'm not even sure one can consciously change their personality. And at any rate, i'm not really sure I want to. (I mean, would you?)

oh fuck yeah, that is so me too :eek:

its not that i'm "antisocial" in that i prefer to be alone, or dislike social situations, its just that i get terrified about being thought of stupidly or something, or can't cope with the way my old friends (who have now all but shunned me as a result of this) jokingly put each other down and stuff.

Yes, that's exactly it! I'll refrain on making comments because they might be "too nerdy" and people might dislike me, or conversely come across as an idiot (unless they're close friends and I am comfortable in talking about whatever)...and yeah, I had trouble with friends jokingly putting me down...I always took it to heart and then confused myself as to whether they were serious or not. That's mostly stopped now that i'm not at school, though...but that's also because I don't see most of my old friends all that much anymore.

Eh. But especially when meeting new people, i'm always self conscious about any little fuckup on my part. And because i'm overly self conscious, I actually do end up being seen as the quiet weird guy. Sigh.

Aw, come on, now you're making me feel bad - those are all things I do, too. :(

Maybe we're all freaks...


...which would actually invalidate us being freaks in this context, right? :p Yay! We're normal!

I'm not even sure one can consciously change their personality. And at any rate, i'm not really sure I want to.Oh come on, you know what I mean. When you know you're being way overly sensitive to potential slights then just make yourself grit your teeth and learn how to trust people a tiny bit more and not bit so overly insecure when talking to people. You're self-aware enough to know where people actually mean it and where you most probably are just making it hard for yourself.
That's not "changing your personality". And call me crazy, but I do very much think you want to change a couple things about your ingrained habits. You don't exactly seem happy with them most of the time.

Yes, that's exactly it! I'll refrain on making comments because they might be "too nerdy" and people might dislike me, or conversely come across as an idiot (unless they're close friends and I am comfortable in talking about whatever)...and yeah, I had trouble with friends jokingly putting me down...I always took it to heart and then confused myself as to whether they were serious or not. That's mostly stopped now that i'm not at school, though...but that's also because I don't see most of my old friends all that much anymore.

Eh. But especially when meeting new people, i'm always self conscious about any little fuckup on my part. And then I end up being seen as the quiet weird guy. Sigh.

yup, i hear that...
the worst thing is when i get into a little cycle where i refrain from saying a thing because i think it'll sound stupid and people will think i'm stupid, then i realise i'm being quiet and worry that people will think i'm boring or too quiet, so i end up saying something - just about anything - to chime into the conversation. which then leads me to worry about whether that was the right thing to say and whether its obvious i'm finding it all difficult, and whether what i said was too obviously put on. especially when i read too much into how people respond to what i say - if they just sorta say nothing to the thing i eventually blurt out, or just continue with the conversation, i have to conclude that what i said was indeed stupid and...... ah, it just goes on and on... :(


i used to get amazingly paranoid on weed :p

and thankfully i don't have to deal with new interpersonal situations much as i work for my parents in the family business and can hide behind them, and i don't see anybody outside the business or my girlfriend. hell, i still refuse to answer the phone in fear of sounding stupid or not knowing the answers to their questions beforehand.
i don't even answer the phone if its a friend calling (i make em leave a message or text) in case they want to meet up... i usually say yes but then get terrified and back out at the last minute (just ask glitz - she knows)

and yet i'm lonely and want friends :(


bah


edit: just remembered my doctor saying something about anxiety disorders when he prescribed my antidepressants.... totally forgot about that. i think citalopram is supposed to help with that :)

I'm not even sure one can consciously change their personality. And at any rate, i'm not really sure I want to. (I mean, would you?)Oh, just saw the edit. Hell yes!
One of my most prominent personality traits is that I'm a master in denial and an even bigger master in procrastination. And yes, once it's as pervasive as with me, that is a personality trait. I lack self-discipline so much it isn't even funny. I can also be a terrible nagging bitch at times with people that are close to me. I get sullen and moody for some reason I can't quite make out even though I hate sullen and moody people. I neglect my friends and instead spend my time and energy on new acquaintances. And, of course, I'm so insecure it's ridiculous.

I could go on but it's too depressing. :p

These are all personality traits that I want to change, badly. And I could do so consciously, too. If only I had that self-discipline... ;)

I'm a narcissistic personality, but I don't think it's quite a disorder, I just tend to lie a lot to the people I care about.

I'd rather the people of NSG tell me which disorder I seem to have the most.You're too sexy for your shirt.

I'd rather the people of NSG tell me which disorder I seem to have the most.

You're too sexy for your shirt.

You really don't want me to take my shirt off.

Oh come on, you know what I mean. When you know you're being way overly sensitive to potential slights then just make yourself grit your teeth and learn how to trust people a tiny bit more and not bit so overly insecure when talking to people. You're self-aware enough to know where people actually mean it and where you most probably are just making it hard for yourself.
That's not "changing your personality". And call me crazy, but I do very much think you want to change a couple things about your ingrained habits. You don't exactly seem happy with them most of the time.

I suppose.

But unfortunately, my experience with social rejection continues to this day, and I don't think that's because of poor self esteem or anything. Everything from people trying to pick fights with me, to being treated poorly at work, to my long list of negative experiences with women.

What's worse, and which is reality - people simply don't like me, or instead that people *would* like me, but it's my fault that they don't?

yup, i hear that...
the worst thing is when i get into a little cycle where i refrain from saying a thing because i think it'll sound stupid and people will think i'm stupid, then i realise i'm being quiet and worry that people will think i'm boring or too quiet, so i end up saying something - just about anything - to chime into the conversation. which then leads me to worry about whether that was the right thing to say and whether its obvious i'm finding it all difficult, and whether what i said was too obviously put on. especially when i read too much into how people respond to what i say - if they just sorta say nothing to the thing i eventually blurt out, or just continue with the conversation, i have to conclude that what i said was indeed stupid and...... ah, it just goes on and on...

>.< Yeah, I know that all too well.

i used to get amazingly paranoid on weed :p

Hmm, I actually find it has the opposite effect on me, I become less inhibited.

and thankfully i don't have to deal with new interpersonal situations much as i work for my parents in the family business and can hide behind them, and i don't see anybody outside the business or my girlfriend. hell, i still refuse to answer the phone in fear of sounding stupid or not knowing the answers to their questions beforehand.
i don't even answer the phone if its a friend calling (i make em leave a message or text) in case they want to meet up... i usually say yes but then get terrified and back out at the last minute (just ask glitz - she knows)

and yet i'm lonely and want friends

You probably have it worse than me, then...or at least in a different way..see, I can associate with people readily (and have no problem talking to customers at work) and I even try very hard to have an active social life...but usually people can't be fucked. I have two extremely close friends that I know wouldn't sideline me. But everyone else...heh. I keep getting the feeling that they put off associating with me for whatever reason. So it's essentially that fear of rejection again. I don't know if i'm paranoid or not, since it's happened in not so distant history that friends have just decided to stop associating with me. (And I don't think it's due to me being a sad-sack, I actually cover most of that up irl)


bah. I don't know. I have to get to bed.

Oh, just saw the edit. Hell yes!
One of my most prominent personality traits is that I'm a master in denial and an even bigger master in procrastination. And yes, once it's as pervasive as with me, that is a personality trait. I lack self-discipline so much it isn't even funny. I can also be a terrible nagging bitch at times with people that are close to me. I get sullen and moody for some reason I can't quite make out even though I hate sullen and moody people. I neglect my friends and instead spend my time and energy on new acquaintances. And, of course, I'm so insecure it's ridiculous.

I could go on but it's too depressing. :p

These are all personality traits that I want to change, badly. And I could do so consciously, too. If only I had that self-discipline... ;)

Electroshock therapy might also work, though I doubt the results would be as flufflable.

I suppose.

But unfortunately, my experience with social rejection continues to this day, and I don't think that's because of poor self esteem or anything. Everything from people trying to pick fights with me, to being treated poorly at work, to my long list of negative experiences with women.

What's worse, and which is reality - people simply don't like me, or instead that people *would* like me, but it's my fault that they don't?

[...]

But everyone else...heh. I keep getting the feeling that they put off associating with me for whatever reason. So it's essentially that fear of rejection again. I don't know if i'm paranoid or not, since it's happened in not so distant history that friends have just decided to stop associating with me. (And I don't think it's due to me being a sad-sack, I actually cover most of that up irl)I can just keep repeating that I've always liked you and that you certainly don't seem in any way like someone one wouldn't want to be around, but you will just keep repeating that I only know you online and so can't judge.

I don't know if you're just reading too much into things (friends are gonna change, not everyone is gonna keep in contact; and nobody is just making new friends left and right) or if it's true, all I can say is that I honestly have not seen anything in you that would make you "undesirable", be it as a friend or as a boyfriend. But, as you will no doubt point out, I "only" know you online and apparently you have this huge flaw that only gets apparent in real life. :rolleyes: (<-- means I'm not believing you)

I have to get to bed.You totally do. Sleep well. :fluffle:

Yeah, Kanabia? You're a decent bloke. So there.

Although I wouldn't want you as a boyfriend. Sorry.


I used to act quite a lot like that Avoidant Personality Disorder description, but it went away... I blame the misanthropy :p

If anyone hasn't figured out that I'm insanely anti-social...

http://www.avoidantpersonality.com/stories/p1/?sidemenu

wow, pretty much all of that hits home...

thanks kanabia :)

http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=68584 Paranoid, according to here.

I then ended up as `Seer' from here http://www.quizilla.com/users/novemberhorse/quizzes/The%20ULTIMATE%20personality%20test/

According to the interweb, i am Avoidant and Dependent. Perhaps. Though I'm not convinced the 'net is a qualified psychiatrist.

How can I possibly be expected to pick just one?

http://quizfarm.com/test.php?q_id=68584 Paranoid, according to here.

I then ended up as `Seer' from here http://www.quizilla.com/users/novemberhorse/quizzes/The%20ULTIMATE%20personality%20test/

I got a tie at 75% between schizoid and avoidant, and then schizotypal was next at 60%.

You scored as Schizoid.

People with schizoid personality disorder avoid relationships and do not show much emotion. Unlike avoidant schizoids genuinely prefer to be alone and do not secretly wish for popularity. They tend to seek jobs that require little social contact. Their social skills are often weak and they do not show a need for attention or acceptance. They are perceived by others as humorless and distant and often are termed "loners."

Schizoid - 100%
Avoidant - 75%
Schizotypal - 65%
:eek:

You scored as Paranoid.

Paranoid personality disorder is characterized by a distrust of others and a constant suspicion that people around you have sinister motives. [...]

Paranoid 85%
Schizoid 80%
Avoidant 60%

Yeah, well, it would say that, wouldn't it?

Meh, that test is a crock of shit. It reckons my lowest score was for antisociality, yet I've barely spoken to anyone all day, leaving my room only to go to the library, eat and excrete.

That might have something to do with an impending deadline though :p
You scored as Avoidant.



Avoidant personality disorder is characterized by extreme social anxiety. People with this disorder often feel inadequate, avoid social situations, and seek out jobs with little contact with others. Avoidants are fearful of being rejected and worry about embarassing themselves in front of others. They exaggerate the potential difficulties of new situations to rationalize avoiding them. Often, they will create fantasy worlds to substitute for the real one. Unlike schizoid personality disorder, avoidants yearn for social relations yet feel they are unable to obtain them. They are frequently depressed and have low self-confidence.
Avoidant 85%
Paranoid 60%
Borderline 60%It's bang on about the avoidance though.

Although it hassen't been proved, chances are I have ADD, man that was boring ooo look pretty black spot thingy...

None that I know of, though I'm finally recovering from being unbelievably nervous around a lot of people.

I didn't used to be, but there were some traumatising moments involving my dad that drove me to being very reclusive for three years.

I can just keep repeating that I've always liked you and that you certainly don't seem in any way like someone one wouldn't want to be around, but you will just keep repeating that I only know you online and so can't judge.

I don't know if you're just reading too much into things (friends are gonna change, not everyone is gonna keep in contact; and nobody is just making new friends left and right) or if it's true, all I can say is that I honestly have not seen anything in you that would make you "undesirable", be it as a friend or as a boyfriend. But, as you will no doubt point out, I "only" know you online and apparently you have this huge flaw that only gets apparent in real life. :rolleyes: (<-- means I'm not believing you)[/QUOTE]

Haha. I don't know if I have a "huge flaw" that puts people off, exactly. Maybe I am just paranoid. *shrugs*

Yeah, Kanabia? You're a decent bloke. So there.

Thankyou. :)

Although I wouldn't want you as a boyfriend. Sorry.

But whyever not? :(

:P

http://www.avoidantpersonality.com/stories/p1/?sidemenu

wow, pretty much all of that hits home...

thanks kanabia :)

You're welcome. I read into it a little more and i'm certain that if I do have it, it's not as bad as many people do.

That girl mentions problems talking to store clerks, for example. I don't have that problem at all. If I want something I can ask for it (although I do prefer to find things myself). She also mentions problems trying new foods...I don't have that problem, I actually love trying new things. And I don't imitate the people around me to an unusual degree.

On the other hand, some of it does hit home, to varying degrees.

For example, she mentions:

I have what I call phone phobia. If I have to call someone I don't know too well (i.e. anyone outside my immediate family) I get all tense and high-strung, my heart starts pounding, my hands start sweating

I do get an odd feeling of anxiety before making phonecalls to anyone outside of family or friends, but it isn't nearly as severe as what the girl has and I can go ahead with it anyway. I always interpreted it as me simply not liking phones much. And like the girl, I usually resort to email/msn/sms where possible instead.

It is part of my personality to try to please others so they don't criticize me or reject me in any way. I found out that humor is a great defense. If you make fun of yourself, other are less likely to. I've done that a lot. I also try to be nice to everybody. I think a sense of humor has nothing to do with APD, however those with APD that has a sense of humor (like I) will use it to get people to like him/her. It is a way to reduce anxiety and minimize the chance of getting rejected.

Yeah, that's me all over.



I talk too much. I guess just keeping a steady stream of chatter is a way to avoid real conversation. If you talk about to world situation and movies and music and tell jokes, you don't get any closer to people. Debating is also a good way to avoid any personal contact. So I've never had fear of public speaking, unless I was giving a presentation or something. It's all part of the defense system.

That too. When i'm in a situation where I have to make conversation with someone I don't know particularly well, I ramble. A lot.

And as for the public speaking thing, I have that. I have no problem speaking to a group of a thousand people, but giving a presentation to five people I find insanely difficult.

But what I really find difficult are party or nightclub situations where i'm there by myself and don't know anyone (even if someone I know was there and is just taking a whiz). I find it almost impossible to talk to people in that situation and always feel like an idiot standing there by myself, which only makes the problem worse. Oddly though, if someone comes up to me and breaks the ice, I don't have a problem. I just can't do it myself.

It is part of my personality to try to please others so they don't criticize me or reject me in any way. I found out that humor is a great defense. If you make fun of yourself, other are less likely to. I've done that a lot. I also try to be nice to everybody. I think a sense of humor has nothing to do with APD, however those with APD that has a sense of humor (like I) will use it to get people to like him/her. It is a way to reduce anxiety and minimize the chance of getting rejected.
Yeah, that's me all over.

I talk too much. I guess just keeping a steady stream of chatter is a way to avoid real conversation. If you talk about to world situation and movies and music and tell jokes, you don't get any closer to people. Debating is also a good way to avoid any personal contact. So I've never had fear of public speaking, unless I was giving a presentation or something. It's all part of the defense system.
That too. When i'm in a situation where I have to make conversation with someone I don't know particularly well, I ramble. A lot.

And as for the public speaking thing, I have that. I have no problem speaking to a group of a thousand people, but giving a presentation to five people I find insanely difficult.
Both of these things describe me perfectly, especially the first one, omg. Depressingly perfectly.

I do rock at presentations, though. I don't like to do it, but I always do exceptionally well.

Bah, it's just stupid. I (and you, too, and probably most other people) have high self-esteem in some areas, yet in other areas it just completely fails. Which is of course why one hardly ever fits into a list of "symptoms" completely.

Both of these things describe me perfectly, especially the first one, omg. Depressingly perfectly.

I do rock at presentations, though. I don't like to do it, but I always do exceptionally well.

Bah, it's just stupid. I (and you, too, and probably most other people) have high self-esteem in some areas, yet in other areas it just completely fails. Which is of course why one hardly ever fits into a list of "symptoms" completely.

I don't think I have high self esteem in any aspect, to be honest. I have the sense to recognise that's silly, though.

However, one thing I just realised is that I know some people who almost perfectly fit some of what that girl was saying, and that would go someway towards explaining why said people are so...well, avoidant. :P

Maybe at least aspects of this thing are more common than one would think.

An alloy of narcissism, depression and dangerously low self-esteem.

I don't think I have high self esteem in any aspect, to be honest.Oh, I think you do. For example, you consider yourself more intelligent than the majority of people - an assumption from which often comes a certain kind of patronizing, arrogant dismissiveness in dealing with others even though it is subconscious and wrapped in polite kindness in real life, mostly even unspoken. Now, mind you, I'm not saying that I observed that in you, but we've talked about it before and you know you do, as do I, as do probably almost all people on this forum, from what I can see.
What I'm trying to say is that I have a hard time believing that not really almost everybody has some aspects of their selves they don't think highly of, no matter how paradoxical that may seem when compared to their general attitude of "I suck".

Which is a good thing.

Of course I may be basing that solely on myself, so feel free to tell me I'm full of shit. Not that I'll believe you because of course I'll know better. ;) :p

However, one thing I just realised is that I know some people who almost perfectly fit some of what that girl was saying, and that would go someway towards explaining why said people are so...well, avoidant. :P

Maybe at least aspects of this thing are more common than one would think.Definitely.

I'm mildly schizophrenic. It's very subtle, and to be honest, it feels to me like it gives me insight rather than acting as a barrier to coherent thought. Mind you, it would, wouldn't it? It's interesting just how rational any form of insanity appears to be.

Ooh, ooh, fun game! I'll come out of hiding for this.

I'm an atypical schizoid. I fit the "actually happy on their own, doesn't seek approval, finds relationships taxing and unnecessary, is considered somewhat distant" etc profile... but I'm also a complete clown, which is an accepted method of gaining attention; I have plenty of friends and have had a reasonable number of (failed) relationships and my social skills, whilst bizarre, are perfectly adequate.

And considering I'm a psych grad, my semi-professional evaluation of myself is:
"wants to be classified as something, but is in fact pretty normal"

I took that test many years ago, though (I shalln't rant about how incorrectly worded, invalid and unreliable it really is) and I came out about 90% schizoid, avoidant and borderline. I think the technical term was 'grumpy teenager; slightly emo' :D

I do get an odd feeling of anxiety before making phonecalls to anyone outside of family or friends, but it isn't nearly as severe as what the girl has and I can go ahead with it anyway. I always interpreted it as me simply not liking phones much. And like the girl, I usually resort to email/msn/sms where possible instead.

That too. When i'm in a situation where I have to make conversation with someone I don't know particularly well, I ramble. A lot.

And as for the public speaking thing, I have that. I have no problem speaking to a group of a thousand people, but giving a presentation to five people I find insanely difficult.

But what I really find difficult are party or nightclub situations where i'm there by myself and don't know anyone (even if someone I know was there and is just taking a whiz). I find it almost impossible to talk to people in that situation and always feel like an idiot standing there by myself, which only makes the problem worse. Oddly though, if someone comes up to me and breaks the ice, I don't have a problem. I just can't do it myself.

1: I don't have these problems, although I get extremely nervous and tense when I make a phone call in front of my dad... And since he screams at me whenever I use my real voice (rather than a put-on English accent --- don't ask, though I guess you can), I wonder why that could be... :p

2: I'm pretty direct in this case. The only time I ramble is when I'm talking with people I know, though I wouldn't call it rambling so much as just having a lot to talk about.

3: Same here. I had to give one the day before yesterday for a group job interview, and I'll have to say that it was the most awkward shit I've ever experienced. And I wasn't the only one who was so nervous (I wasn't even the most nervous).

4: I've never been one to just up and talk to somebody without sizing them up first. Call that a disorder if you will, but I always get good results from being so selective. And this isn't just in person, either. I do it for MSN contacts as well. Of course, publicly listing my MSN address on NS General a while back was a gamble, though I got lucky when Jordaxia decided to add me... But we all remember Sanctaphrax.

Overall, I'm getting better the more I get out in the open. Most of my social anxiety is gone (though I'm still pretty nervous around a lot of people), which is good. Once I move away from pops, I should be just fine.

I dont know and dont give a flying fuck,you nosey douchebags.

You're welcome. I read into it a little more and i'm certain that if I do have it, it's not as bad as many people do.

well that's good :)

That girl mentions problems talking to store clerks, for example. I don't have that problem at all. If I want something I can ask for it (although I do prefer to find things myself).
i do :( i hate asking people for things in shops, and always make/made family or friends do it.
i've gotten better recently thanks to going to restaurants a lot and getting used to talking to waiters, but i still don't like it.

She also mentions problems trying new foods...I don't have that problem, I actually love trying new things.

i get very nervous whenever i'm about to try something new, and usually avoid it alltogether. i tend to eat the same foods, go to the same resaurants, etc, because i don't want to order something i won't like. i'm kinda scared of being disappointed, and also scared of what others will think if i leave some (newly tried) food, just like the lady


And I don't imitate the people around me to an unusual degree.
no, nor me... thank god.


I do get an odd feeling of anxiety before making phonecalls to anyone outside of family or friends, but it isn't nearly as severe as what the girl has and I can go ahead with it anyway. I always interpreted it as me simply not liking phones much. And like the girl, I usually resort to email/msn/sms where possible instead.
thats what i always thought too, but i guess its more than that.
as i've already said on this thread, i get terrified making phone calls, will repeat the conversation over and over (practicing) before making the call, and then again once i've finished to check i didn't say anything stupid. i won't call friends or accept calls from friends - only family and my g/f


Yeah, that's me all over.

yup.
but then sometimes the scaredness gets the better of me and i can't talk, let alone be funny. its especially odd that i get that particularly with one of my oldest friends - our senses of humour just don't mix and i find it difficult when its just him and me. in fact, i never really had any truly close friends, always preferring to meet friends in a group so i wouldn't have to talk to any one of them alone... odd.

That too. When i'm in a situation where I have to make conversation with someone I don't know particularly well, I ramble. A lot.
lol, this i'd like to hear :P

And as for the public speaking thing, I have that. I have no problem speaking to a group of a thousand people, but giving a presentation to five people I find insanely difficult.
both terrify me :p


But what I really find difficult are party or nightclub situations where i'm there by myself and don't know anyone (even if someone I know was there and is just taking a whiz). I find it almost impossible to talk to people in that situation and always feel like an idiot standing there by myself, which only makes the problem worse. Oddly though, if someone comes up to me and breaks the ice, I don't have a problem. I just can't do it myself.

i wasn't really aware that one could talk to random people... the tought never occurred to me :P
going to parties alone is simply something i've never done, and clubs/pubs when friends are at the bar or taking a piss i do just what you said.

of course, pubs and clubs are terrible social situations anyway as its always too loud to hear other people speak. i tended not to bother, or just to drown myself in beer to lower the ol' inhibitions :P

Oh, I think you do. For example, you consider yourself more intelligent than the majority of people - an assumption from which often comes a certain kind of patronizing, arrogant dismissiveness in dealing with others even though it is subconscious and wrapped in polite kindness in real life, mostly even unspoken. Now, mind you, I'm not saying that I observed that in you, but we've talked about it before and you know you do, as do I, as do probably almost all people on this forum, from what I can see.
What I'm trying to say is that I have a hard time believing that not really almost everybody has some aspects of their selves they don't think highly of, no matter how paradoxical that may seem when compared to their general attitude of "I suck".

Haha. Actually, whilst I admit i've scored very well on linguistic/numeric tests in the past, I usually tend to look down on myself for not having the wisdom to apply my brain anywhere very practical. Brains don't really count for much. There are people I know who were as thick as brick shithouses (:p) in school that are earning tens of thousands of dollars more than me. (money is a sucky measure of self-worth, but it seems to be the only one that matters in modern society.)

I'm not disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, by the way. I'll admit that I can be arrogant and dismissive to people I arbitarily decide are lesser than me, which means that you're right. On the other hand, in my own mind, I also convince myself it's not really worth much. Whether that's justified or not is open to questioning, I guess.

(whee, 7AM again! I wonder if being nocturnal is a symptom of any personality disorders? :P *runs to bed, will check other replies later*)

I'm not disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, by the way. I'll admit that I can be arrogant and dismissive to people I arbitarily decide are lesser than me, which means that you're right. On the other hand, in my own mind, I also convince myself it's not really worth much. Whether that's justified or not is open to questioning, I guess.

Heh, I only decide people are lesser than me after I've known them long enough. Then again, they have to do some really shitty things to get that treatment. :p

Once I move away from pops, I should be just fine.You will. :fluffle:

Haha. Actually, whilst I admit i've scored very well on linguistic/numeric tests in the past, I usually tend to look down on myself for not having the wisdom to apply my brain anywhere very practical. Brains don't really count for much. There are people I know who were as thick as brick shithouses (:p) in school that are earning tens of thousands of dollars more than me. (money is a sucky measure of self-worth, but it seems to be the only one that matters in modern society.)

I'm not disagreeing for the sake of disagreeing, by the way. I'll admit that I can be arrogant and dismissive to people I arbitarily decide are lesser than me, which means that you're right. On the other hand, in my own mind, I also convince myself it's not really worth much. Whether that's justified or not is open to questioning, I guess.
Hm, yeah. You just got me thinking that, seeing how I don't even have the decency myself to make the step to the "yeah, but it's what you're doing with your brains that counts", I'm even more avoidant than I already knew. I only have my last vestiges of self-esteem because I avoid looking at them for what they really are. >.< :p

(whee, 7AM again! I wonder if being nocturnal is a symptom of any personality disorders? :P *runs to bed, will check other replies later*)I bet it is. I've been seeing more of 7am lately than in the last couple years. And not because I got up early, either. :rolleyes:

Depressive/ the one when you want to throttle people who cling to you =P

:sniper: :sniper: Is there a personalalty where you feel evil all the time?

:sniper: :sniper: Is there a personalalty where you feel evil all the time?Noobianasis Gunsmiliae.

:sniper: :sniper: Is there a personalalty where you feel evil all the time?
Religious.

I am a personality disorder.

Which one is the "I attract creepy stalker" option?

I am a personality disorder.

Which one is the "I attract creepy stalker" option?I'd look for the one with the worst grammar. :p

I'd look for the one with the worst grammar. :p

I've been living off 5 hours of sleep per night. I'm happy if my posts are coherant.;)

With another S on the end.

i don't know. i don't like starting conversations but if someone talks to me im okay. i really hate making phone calls. i often get very nervous going out in public, to the point of visibly trembling and feeling sick.
okay, so it's self-diagnosed, but some sort of social anxiety, probably.

well that's good :)

Yeah, like anything...even though i'm normally pessimistic, I guess it's worth saying "It could be worse."

Hm. Because I seem to be predisposed to both pessimism and optimism, I am totally not the type of person you want around in a life or death situation. "Okay...the plane has crashed, and we're stranded in the middle of nowhere, and we're probably all going to die in a couple of days, since we have no food and minimal shelter...but it could be worse." And just as the murderous looks of people come my way and contemplate turning me into food, i'll exclaim "Because I have good news! The bar cart is intact!"

(There's the rambling you requested, sir. I trust it was to your satisfaction. :))


i do :( i hate asking people for things in shops, and always make/made family or friends do it.
i've gotten better recently thanks to going to restaurants a lot and getting used to talking to waiters, but i still don't like it.

I don't necessarily like it, but I don't have any difficulty in doing so. Actually, that's probably because I deal with customers every day myself, so i'm relatively comfortable in a retail environment.

i get very nervous whenever i'm about to try something new, and usually avoid it alltogether. i tend to eat the same foods, go to the same resaurants, etc, because i don't want to order something i won't like. i'm kinda scared of being disappointed, and also scared of what others will think if i leave some (newly tried) food, just like the lady

That's a shame. I never thought of it that way. Even if I try something I don't like (which isn't much - certain vegetables as well as pineapple is all, really), i'll eat it all anyway. So I never get anxious about that...it would possibly be different if I ate at someone's house rather than at a restaurant, but I don't think so.

thats what i always thought too, but i guess its more than that.
as i've already said on this thread, i get terrified making phone calls, will repeat the conversation over and over (practicing) before making the call, and then again once i've finished to check i didn't say anything stupid. i won't call friends or accept calls from friends - only family and my g/f

Oh, I don't have problems accepting calls or have to practice it. Actually, come to think of it, it usually manifests as a dislike of speaking to people's parents...

yup.
but then sometimes the scaredness gets the better of me and i can't talk, let alone be funny. its especially odd that i get that particularly with one of my oldest friends - our senses of humour just don't mix and i find it difficult when its just him and me. in fact, i never really had any truly close friends, always preferring to meet friends in a group so i wouldn't have to talk to any one of them alone... odd.

Hmm...I have compatible humour with most of my friends, so I can't really relate to that.

And I don't have many close friends. I've always been a bit of a loner, usually only ever sharing the company of one or two people at lunchtimes back in school - I didn't really like group situations so much. Even through university, though, I tended to stay on my own and didn't really make any friends.

i wasn't really aware that one could talk to random people... the tought never occurred to me :P

Hehe. Randoms, eww. :P

going to parties alone is simply something i've never done, and clubs/pubs when friends are at the bar or taking a piss i do just what you said.

Yes, i've never done the former. I just turned down a party tomorrow because I didn't know anyone there besides the host.

of course, pubs and clubs are terrible social situations anyway as its always too loud to hear other people speak. i tended not to bother, or just to drown myself in beer to lower the ol' inhibitions :P

Yeah, true. And expensive booze. I haven't gone "out" in ages, actually. I keep meaning to, but I guess I can't be bothered anymore since it's a rather pointless endeavour.

Heh, I only decide people are lesser than me after I've known them long enough. Then again, they have to do some really shitty things to get that treatment. :p

Me too, mostly. I generally don't think too much about people I don't know at all.


Hm, yeah. You just got me thinking that, seeing how I don't even have the decency myself to make the step to the "yeah, but it's what you're doing with your brains that counts", I'm even more avoidant than I already knew. I only have my last vestiges of self-esteem because I avoid looking at them for what they really are. >.< :p

:/

But to cap off that sentiment, I got two rejection letters from jobs I applied for today. I'm so gonna make a collage out of them. ;p

I bet it is. I've been seeing more of 7am lately than in the last couple years. And not because I got up early, either. :rolleyes:

I don't know how I started this habit. Two years ago, i'd go to bed late sometimes, but that was still a relative rarity. Now it's every night, even when I have things on the next day...like having to be up for work in 5 hours right now. I just can't go to bed early anymore unless i'm *really* buggered.

i don't know. i don't like starting conversations but if someone talks to me im okay. i really hate making phone calls. i often get very nervous going out in public, to the point of visibly trembling and feeling sick.
okay, so it's self-diagnosed, but some sort of social anxiety, probably.

You sound like you have our weird self-diagnosed disease. Join usssss....

My only personality disorder is an excess of personal perfection. It's a burden, but somehow I manage to live with it.

I'm the poster boy for mental health.

Oh, I don't have problems accepting calls or have to practice it. Actually, come to think of it, it usually manifests as a dislike of speaking to people's parents...

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Yes, i've never done the former. I just turned down a party tomorrow because I didn't know anyone there besides the host.
Okay, those two? Totally normal.

I don't know how I started this habit. Two years ago, i'd go to bed late sometimes, but that was still a relative rarity. Now it's every night, even when I have things on the next day...like having to be up for work in 5 hours right now. I just can't go to bed early anymore unless i'm *really* buggered.If you ever find a remedy, let me know.