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This car says f*ck off to the Toyota Prius and 'sod off you hypocrite to Al Gore'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

I know the car was being driven way too fast and a pregnant woman was hit in her car but - OMG. One of the few models of the greatest car on the face of the Earth (at present) probably written off! It crashed into an Astra (10 a penny and crap) which is no loss and babies are even more common than Astra's.

There are only about 70 of these cars in the world.

This car says f*ck off to the Toyota Prius and 'sod off you hypocrite to Al Gore'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

I know the car was being driven way too fast and a pregnant woman was hit in her car but - OMG. One of the few models of the greatest car on the face of the Earth (at present) probably written off! It crashed into an Astra (10 a penny and crap) which is no loss and babies are even more common than Astra's.

There are only about 70 of these cars in the world.

I generally prefer the McLaren F1 as far as fast, rare, and awesome cars go.

Did you just claim bugatti veyrons are more important than a human life?

This car says f*ck off to the Toyota Prius and 'sod off you hypocrite to Al Gore'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

I know the car was being driven way too fast and a pregnant woman was hit in her car but - OMG. One of the few models of the greatest car on the face of the Earth (at present) probably written off! It crashed into an Astra (10 a penny and crap) which is no loss and babies are even more common than Astra's.
There are only about 70 of these cars in the world.


I can see your list of priorities. And what are the chances you'll actually ever drive one less own one? You have more chance of being a father/mother. I;d be more concerned about the prenant woman than a car.

This car says f*ck off to the Toyota Prius and 'sod off you hypocrite to Al Gore'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

I know the car was being driven way too fast and a pregnant woman was hit in her car but - OMG. One of the few models of the greatest car on the face of the Earth (at present) probably written off! It crashed into an Astra (10 a penny and crap) which is no loss and babies are even more common than Astra's.

There are only about 70 of these cars in the world.

omfg a pregnant woman could have been killed because some other guy was speeding and you whine about a car?

all I have to say is: hahaha :D

Shit happens.

so this is why the stig can't get his hands on one

so this is why the stig can't get his hands on one

James May did and took it all the way to 253mph.

Did you just claim bugatti veyrons are more important than a human life?

6billions people on earth - 70 Bugatti Veyrons. I see the council estate scum that churn little babies out by the score. This car is a triumph of car engineering. Besides, the baby lived. Plus (shall remain nameless) nations prize the oil that powers such cars over human life and some people prize their beleif in imaginary freinds over human life.

I can see your list of priorities. And what are the chances you'll actually ever drive one less own one? You have more chance of being a father/mother. I;d be more concerned about the prenant woman than a car.

The chance that I will ever drive/own one - probably one in 14million (fingers crossed). I would have about a 1:1 chance of being a father if I drove a Vauxhall Nove through Chorley for long enough.

Did you just claim bugatti veyrons are more important than a human life?

Yes. Yes they are.

The eight-litre, hand-crafted Veyron has a top speed in excess of 250mph.

The 1,000 horsepower Bugatti can accelerate from 0 to 60mph in 2.5 seconds.

...worth more than £800,000...


1. why would anyone want a car that can do that kind of speed/acceleration when you can only go so fast on the roads?

and 2. why would anyone pay that much money for a fucking car? more money than sense methinks


i'm not surprised the driver crashed it. fucking sportscar types are always driving aggressively and dangerously

6billions people on earth - 70 Bugatti Veyrons. I see the council estate scum that churn little babies out by the score. This car is a triumph of car engineering. Besides, the baby lived. Plus (shall remain nameless) nations prize the oil that powers such cars over human life and some people prize their beleif in imaginary freinds over human life.

It would be kind of cool to have a 747 loaded with babies and fuel crash into the garage housing the last 69 of those Bugatis.

It would be kind of cool to have a 747 loaded with babies and fuel crash into the garage housing the last 69 of those Bugatis.

I see where your priorities lie. Plus they planned to build 300 over 5 years and with the orders already received and the criminal damage insurance the babies lives would be lost in vain.

6billions people on earth - 70 Bugatti Veyrons. I see the council estate scum that churn little babies out by the score. This car is a triumph of car engineering. Besides, the baby lived. Plus (shall remain nameless) nations prize the oil that powers such cars over human life and some people prize their beleif in imaginary freinds over human life.

:rolleyes:

(why isn't this smily on the panel on the right but those gun smilies are?)

1. why would anyone want a car that can do that kind of speed/acceleration when you can only go so fast on the roads?

and 2. why would anyone pay that much money for a fucking car? more money than sense methinks


i'm not surprised the driver crashed it. fucking sportscar types are always driving aggressively and dangerously

1. A) Nuremberg Ring, B) The Autobahn, C) It's cool.

2. More money than sense is a Porche Cayenne or a Hummer. This is a peice of automoive history.

1. why would anyone want a car that can do that kind of speed/acceleration when you can only go so fast on the roads?
Because these people have absolutely no regard for the spped limits, and then moan about speed cameras in the Mail/Sun.

and 2. why would anyone pay that much money for a fucking car? more money than sense methinks
A (currently foul tempered) cynic mike me would say it's a dick extension.

i'm not surprised the driver crashed it. fucking sportscar types are always driving aggressively and dangerously
Rather like Billericay pick up truck drivers.

A (currently foul tempered) cynic mike me would say it's a dick extension.

:p


Rather like Billericay pick up truck drivers.
yeah...

1. A) Nuremberg Ring, B) The Autobahn, C) It's cool.
these people regularly drive racing circuits? that's probably why he was in Surrey... crashing.

i disagree with C but then each to their own. just putting my two cents accross

2. More money than sense is a Porche Cayenne or a Hummer. This is a peice of automoive history.
also true.

6billions people on earth - 70 Bugatti Veyrons. I see the council estate scum that churn little babies out by the score. This car is a triumph of car engineering. Besides, the baby lived. Plus (shall remain nameless) nations prize the oil that powers such cars over human life and some people prize their beleif in imaginary freinds over human life.

That's like standin in Fort Knox and sayin "there's 6 billion bricks of bullion in this vault and 70 rat turds. The turds are a triumph of rodent digestion." Just because a thing is rare, that don't mean it's worth more than something common. Besides, it was built by Italians and probably would have disintegrated in another 12 miles anyway.

That's like standin in Fort Knox and sayin "there's 6 billion bricks of bullion in this vault and 70 rat turds. The turds are a triumph of rodent digestion." Just because a thing is rare, that don't mean it's worth more than something common. Besides, it was built by Italians and probably would have disintegrated in another 12 miles anyway.

Comparing gold to rat turds in the same sentance as comparing all human life to this car is a folly.

I already said that some people prize oil over human life. It is not just its rarity but the thing in itself.

Plus it was designed by Volkswagen - therefore G-g-german.

:rolleyes:

(why isn't this smily on the panel on the right but those gun smilies are?)They rotate them ever so often because they don't all fit in the box. Why they don't just make the box bigger is anybody's guess.

1. A) Nuremberg Ring, B) The Autobahn, C) It's cool.
A) Which is where these people go to drive laps how often again?
B) You really think you can do 253mph on the Autobahn? :rolleyes: Oh, I forgot, you don't care about the other expendable assholes driving there in their crappy Astras and such.
C) Yeah, I practically creamed myself just thinking about it. :rolleyes:

these people regularly drive racing circuits? that's probably why he was in Surrey... crashing.Indeed.

They rotate them ever so often because they don't all fit in the box. Why they don't just make the box bigger is anybody's guess.

why not just lose the three gun ones, it be so easy and they wont be missed

why not just lose the three gun ones, it be so easy and they wont be missed

But how will n00bs make their point?!

Because these people have absolutely no regard for the spped limits, and then moan about speed cameras in the Mail/Sun.


And quite rightly so :D (except the mail/sun part).


A (currently foul tempered) cynic mike me would say it's a dick extension.


Even the largest dick in the world is worthless compared to this beauty!


Rather like Billericay pick up truck drivers.

eh?

why not just lose the three gun ones, it be so easy and they wont be missed

exactly, we could add 2 usefull smilies. i seriously need a smily who raises one eyebrow, because i do that a lot in real life too, and maybe a smily with a monocle would be usefull too.

But how will n00bs make their point?!
What, are you saying they're stupid? :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :headbang:

Heee, always wanted to do that.

Now I feel dirty. <.<

What, are you saying they're stupid? :mp5: :sniper: :gundge: :headbang:

Heee, always wanted to do that.

Now I feel dirty. <.<

you forgot :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:

I did, too.

I fail at being a N00b. :(

A n00b at being a n00b? A n00b n00b?

you forgot :upyours: :upyours: :upyours: :upyours:
I did, too.

I fail at being a N00b. :(

it's not as easy as it seems.

It takes a special kind of skill to be a true n00b.

I did, too.

I fail at being a N00b. :(

it's not as easy as it seems.

it's not as easy as it seems.ROFL. :p
And to think that all this time we haven't even given them credit for it!

A n00b at being a n00b? A n00b n00b?http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/yes.gif

But how will n00bs make their point?!
you just take one look at what they posted
exactly, we could add 2 usefull smilies. i seriously need a smily who raises one eyebrow, because i do that a lot in real life too, and maybe a smily with a monocle would be usefull too.
i need one that raises both ,can't raises one
I did, too.

I fail at being a N00b. :(

there there i only used the black hood one and sniper one

Poor car...every time I see a super car or hyper car like that crash, a little piece of me dies inside. I'd take the Veyron over the kid anyways.

http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/yes.gif

you see, that's the kind of smily we could have instead of those guns and upyours.

you see, that's the kind of smily we could have instead of those guns and upyours.http://i.imdb.com/Photos/CMSIcons/emoticons/basic2/yes.gif

i need one that raises both ,can't raises one


http://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstmul/images/yahoo/20.gif

i do raise all my eyebrows too, but that means that i'm exited.

They rotate them ever so often because they don't all fit in the box. Why they don't just make the box bigger is anybody's guess.


A) Which is where these people go to drive laps how often again?
B) You really think you can do 253mph on the Autobahn? :rolleyes: Oh, I forgot, you don't care about the other expendable assholes driving there in their crappy Astras and such.
C) Yeah, I practically creamed myself just thinking about it. :rolleyes:

Indeed.

I drive two crappy Astras. I would gladly move over for one of these. 253mph is the top speed. On the Autobahn you can go quite fast. In the Veyron top speed would empty the petrol tanks in 12minutes.

http://www.xs4all.nl/~ernstmul/images/yahoo/20.gif

i do raise all my eyebrows too, but that means that i'm exited.

:eek: back away from me :p

I generally prefer the McLaren F1 as far as fast, rare, and awesome cars go.

I totally rode in one of those once...this one, actually:

http://photos.commongate.com/10/14754_vgp6am2pe5_m.jpg

That car is just ridiculously crazy awesome fast. Indescribable. With pedal to the floor (I didn't get to drive it, obviously...would you trust a car valued at $1.8 million to a 16-year-old kid?), the speedometer and tach don't smoothly climb up, they fucking jerk from number to number...can't keep up with the car. The guy whose car it was wasn't afraid to drive it how it should be driven, which of course translated into 120+mph on city streets and tire-squealing launches all the goddamn time. That was a fantastic fucking day.

:eek: back away from me :p

http://i106.photobucket.com/albums/m252/RiverIsMyGoddess/icons/smiley_eyebrows.gif

I totally rode in one of those once...this one, actually:

http://photos.commongate.com/10/14754_vgp6am2pe5_m.jpg

That car is just ridiculously crazy awesome fast. Indescribable. With pedal to the floor (I didn't get to drive it, obviously...would you trust a car valued at $1.8 million to a 16-year-old kid?), the speedometer and tach don't smoothly climb up, they fucking jerk from number to number...can't keep up with the car. The guy whose car it was wasn't afraid to drive it how it should be driven, which of course translated into 120+mph on city streets and tire-squealing launches all the goddamn time. That was a fantastic fucking day.

sounds terrifying, reckless and irresponsible to me.

So some rich guy lost his toy. Boo-hoo.

sounds terrifying, reckless and irresponsible to me.

Sounds like a hell of a lot of fun to me :p

But also all of the above. That's why racing circuits do track days :)

Has nobody asked this yet?


What does this have to do with Al Gore?

I can see your list of priorities. And what are the chances you'll actually ever drive one less own one? You have more chance of being a father/mother. I;d be more concerned about the prenant woman than a car.

Lighten up tight arse, I believe he may of had adopted quite a mocking tone there ya know?

Bet you're a barrel of laughs.

1. why would anyone want a car that can do that kind of speed/acceleration when you can only go so fast on the roads?

and 2. why would anyone pay that much money for a fucking car? more money than sense methinks


i'm not surprised the driver crashed it. fucking sportscar types are always driving aggressively and dangerously

1. You can take it to a track, The Nurbering (sp?) for instance, or have a nice (and deadly probably) chase with the policia making excellent viewing for those of us who own TVs.
Okay so it wouldn't be much of a chase as the cops straining to see the Veyron's brake lights disappear into the hazy sunset. Because whatever the time or place the Veyron will always burn of into the sunset, or an Astra.

2.Because you have more money than sense, obviously.

It's more a hyper car than a supercar now ain't it, and certainly ain't a mere sports car.

This incident just proves that a Veyron doesn't need to be aggresive- as other traffic should get out of it's way- especially if those inside are prenant.

Did you just claim a gaudy pile of metal is more important than a human life? Church of Consumerism anyone?

This car says f*ck off to the Toyota Prius and 'sod off you hypocrite to Al Gore'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

I know the car was being driven way too fast and a pregnant woman was hit in her car but - OMG. One of the few models of the greatest car on the face of the Earth (at present) probably written off! It crashed into an Astra (10 a penny and crap) which is no loss and babies are even more common than Astra's.

There are only about 70 of these cars in the world.

Gutted? Why?
One threat less on the roads.

Has nobody asked this yet?


What does this have to do with Al Gore?

I guess the idea is that since Al Gore is trying to raise awareness about the downsides of excessive fuel consuption, it's clever in some circles to regard waste as admirable.
It's a very, very sad attempt at being cool.

Lighten up tight arse, I believe he may of had adopted quite a mocking tone there ya know?

Bet you're a barrel of laughs.

Actually you don't me so I noot to bothered about your opinion. It was mocking then yeah I apologise, if not them my point stands.


Wait! He insulted me! Give someone give me a pity fluffle!

those kind of cars shouldn't have a price tage on them, they should have an advanced driver competence test requirement. that way only people who can handle them can drive them, no just any old rich wank with a small dick and a toupe.

Gutted? Why?
One threat less on the roads.

Precisely! Who would want our streets to be boring and "ultra-safe"?

Has nobody asked this yet?


What does this have to do with Al Gore?

good point, i forgot about the gore reference after reading the ridiculous OP. surely, if anything, the story vindicates gore, albeit in a rather oblique way.

Either way, it must suck to watch as your $1,600,000 car is getting ever closer to being destroyed and all you can do is watch. Poor guy.

Was the idiot behind the wheel of the Bugatti standard, or an option?

exactly, we could add 2 usefull smilies. i seriously need a smily who raises one eyebrow, because i do that a lot in real life too, and maybe a smily with a monocle would be usefull too.

QFT, i need an eyebrow raising smiley too... o_0 just doesn't really cut it.

PROTIP: If you're a shitty driver in the rain, don't drive your $1.6 million car.

This car says f*ck off to the Toyota Prius and 'sod off you hypocrite to Al Gore'!

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/surrey/6422215.stm

I know the car was being driven way too fast and a pregnant woman was hit in her car but - OMG. One of the few models of the greatest car on the face of the Earth (at present) probably written off! It crashed into an Astra (10 a penny and crap) which is no loss and babies are even more common than Astra's.

There are only about 70 of these cars in the world.

Why on earth do we need more expensive, fast toys for the rich? "Greatest car on the face of the Earth?" Really. Is it low-emission? What kind of mileage does it get? What sort of safety factors have been engineered in? What does it do other than encourage fools to go fast and endanger other people, waste oil and pollute the air. What's great about that? You imply that the lives of certain classes of people are worthless, you may be right, spoiled rich children who buy and drive useless cars are among those worthless classes.

How gutted would you be...
...If some jack-ass flew up on the sidewalk at 200+ mph in a stupidly extravagant sports car and smashed through my fragile frame, hurling my newly-broken corpse away over the heads of on-lookers?
Pretty goddamn gutted, I'd say. Not quite fish-style, but to a similarly permanent extent.
So some rich guy lost his toy. Boo-hoo.
At least it wasn't stolen by the ebil guberment so they could pay welfare mothers to keep squeezing out babies.

How gutted would you be...
...If some jack-ass flew up on the sidewalk at 200+ mph in a stupidly extravagant sports car and smashed through my fragile frame, hurling my newly-broken corpse away over the heads of on-lookers?
Pretty goddamn gutted, I'd say. Not quite fish-style, but to a similarly permanent extent.
So some rich guy lost his toy. Boo-hoo.
At least it wasn't stolen by the ebil guberment so they could pay welfare mothers to keep squeezing out babies.

and 2. why would anyone pay that much money for a fucking car? more money than sense methinks
That's actually less than the cost of building one of those beasts.
They sold them less than the production costs. It was developed more as a, "How much can we put into one car?" type exercise than anything else.
Which is why they're so highly-rated (and desired).
It's basically a concept car that one can buy (if one had several hundred thou sitting around of course).
The chances of that happening again are basically zero.
It's the motoring equivalent of the Concorde.

Why on earth do we need more expensive, fast toys for the rich?
Because if we didn't have companies and engineers spending time and effort to develop cars like this or a Merc S-Class or BMW 7-Series, none of us would have fancy stuff like ESP, ABS, Airbags and so on and so forth. Not to mention variable valve technology and many other engineering marvels that can actually be used to benefit the environment.

You don't have to like these cars, but you have to accept that other people do, and you have no right to tell those people what they can and can't do. And maybe you can even find it in your heart to recognise that sometimes progress requires a bit of irrational passion.

The Bugatti is a work of sheer technological brilliance. It is an example of what can be done when there is enough drive and determination. It is the kind of thing that moves technology forwards: a desire to do better, rather than simply churn out the same profitable-but-crap stuff. Don't forget there are a number of things on aeroplanes today that we wouldn't have if not for that other 'pointless' and expensive machine, Concorde; this car is similar, and its legacy will be a lot greater than the few you see on the roads.

It's a real shame that it crashed. And, incidentally, to all those people saying it is 'dangerous' and 'excessive' in its speed, the article says nothing about the driver speeding, at all. Give the guy a break; he's just lost £1 million worth of car. It looks like a pretty ordinary road crash in an extraordinary car.

I wonder what the insurance premium on one of those is. Seriously.

I wonder what the insurance premium on one of those is. Seriously.

It's pretty damn high, I'd imagine. Price of the car aside, there's probably a statistically higher risk of those cars being crashed relative to the number of owners so they would probably carry a higher risk premium in addition to the amount you'd pay due to the value of the car itself.

Exactly, so I'm super curious.

I know when my dad was considering buying a Bentley, it was going to be around $12,000/yr for insurance, so I can't imagine this bad boy.

Why on earth do we need more expensive, fast toys for the rich?Because otherwise they won't spend their money and it won't go back into the economy.

Exactly, so I'm super curious.

I know when my dad was considering buying a Bentley, it was going to be around $12,000/yr for insurance, so I can't imagine this bad boy.

I suspect there will be only one or two specialist insurers, possibly Volkswagen itself. But what's a few tens of thousands a year on insurance when you've got so much to spend on a car in the first place?

I suspect there will be only one or two specialist insurers, possibly Volkswagen itself. But what's a few tens of thousands a year on insurance when you've got so much to spend on a car in the first place?

Yeah, sort of like the cost of fueling it, maintenance, storage and all the other things like that; once you've paid $1.6 million for the car, the rest of the costs are nothing but peanuts comparatively even if they are tens of thousands of dollars.

The Veyron gets 8 miles per gallon. I'd have thought worse, honestly.

The Veyron gets 8 miles per gallon. I'd have thought worse, honestly.

It's still the most environmentally friendly car on the planet, because you're where you're going so much quicker and so out of it sooner. :p

Didn't they do some high speed test and it ran out of fuel every like 8 minutes at top speed? :eek:

The Veyron gets 8 miles per gallon. I'd have thought worse, honestly.

And 15 highway; that's pretty much comparable to a large SUV, or even a mid-size one like the Explorer. Of course, you're probably not going to be driving the Veyron to work every day, so it's not particularly a problem (I wouldn't do it because of the risk of scratches/theft/etc...the fuel costs aren't even an issue there).

It's probably a testament to the sheer quality of engineering and construction more than anything; they've probably got the best engineers in the company (Bugatti's part of VW, right?) working on them.

My small SUV gets 12 miles per gallon. I can't believe this thing doesn't get like 10 feet to the gallon. :D

it's an effing automobile, right? so what the effing ell is the effing trip?

if it was a narrow gauge m.u. i'd be interested. of a kind that none of its propulsion came from any form of combustion.

all automobiles should be smooshed togather and melted down to recycle their scrap into something useful.

=^^=
.../\...

Precisely! Who would want our streets to be boring and "ultra-safe"?

Not gonna happen as long as people insist on driving around in cars...

An interview with VW's CEO, Martin Winterkorn. Sorta relevant, I suppose.

http://www.spiegel.de/international/spiegel/0,1518,470093,00.html
SPIEGEL: Nevertheless, you have now pressured the European Union not to set binding CO2 emissions limits of 120 grams per kilometer for all manufacturers. Are German carmakers putting the brakes on environmental protection?

Winterkorn: No, they are not. If the initial idea had prevailed and average carbon dioxide emissions were to be at 120 grams beginning in 2012, large cars would be practically nonexistent. We would no longer have the Audi A8, the Mercedes S Class or BMW's 7 Series, nor would we have any larger family cars. Or they would become expensive enough to drastically reduce sales of these cars. If that happened, it would no longer be worthwhile to even develop such vehicles. This would benefit Italian and French manufacturers, who have gone to selling small cars almost exclusively. A few people are pursuing two-fisted industrial policies to the detriment of German manufacturers. Shouldn't we defend ourselves against this?

How gutted?
Not very.
I would have survived.
My fetus would have survived.
I wouldn't give a fuck about the car at that point.
Obviously the owner of the car has some amount of money if they could afford the car, and they obviously have insurance, so there's not really much argument to be had here. She's safe. Her unborn child is safe. Nobody died. Argument dead in the water. Gutted? Not at all. I'd be relieved that I made it out alive.

I'm adding this incident to my list of responses to "What's the worst thing that could happen?"

It's a real shame that it crashed. And, incidentally, to all those people saying it is 'dangerous' and 'excessive' in its speed, the article says nothing about the driver speeding, at all. Give the guy a break; he's just lost £1 million worth of car. It looks like a pretty ordinary road crash in an extraordinary car.

Exactly. The article doesn't say anything about his driving at all, yet everyone's assuming he's a wanker because he's driving an expensive car. The article didn't even say it was his.

And baby or Veyron? No question. Veyron every time, baby.

Exactly. The article doesn't say anything about his driving at all, yet everyone's assuming he's a wanker because he's driving an expensive car. The article didn't even say it was his.


the OP said something about speeding:


I know the car was being driven way too fast

the OP said something about speeding:

Read the article. No mention of it at all...
Maybe there are other articles out there that do, that he's not linked to? But from the information we have...

Read the article. No mention of it at all...
Maybe there are other articles out there that do, that he's not linked to? But from the information we have...

i know, but that's probably why so many people say he was speeding, because it was in the OP.

Good riddance to bad rubbish I say, thankfully the pregnant lady survived and one less Bushatti on the road.

Quotes the one below (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12399052&postcount=37)
Quotes the one above! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12399057&postcount=38)

I knew someone would do that with the timewarp. It still makes my head hurt. :confused:
Little self-sufficient colonies in the midst of threads ... no-o-o-o!!

I'm sorry for the tree he hit!

Yeah, that's silly, but I so don't care about some stupid boy breaking his expensive toy. :rolleyes:

I'm sorry for the tree he hit!

Yeah, that's silly, but I so don't care about some stupid boy breaking his expensive toy. :rolleyes:

Yeah, the tree's an unfortunate casualty. But let's face it; the Veyron requires lots of research, technology, effort, care and engineering to make.
A baby simply requires a failure to use adequate contraception in a species that really should know better.

Yeah, the tree's an unfortunate casualty. But let's face it; the Veyron requires lots of research, technology, effort, care and engineering to make.

A baby simply requires a failure to use adequate contraception in a species that really should know better.

But without those babies, there would neither be a Bugatti Veyron nor anyone to purchase and drive them.

But without those babies, there would neither be a Bugatti Veyron nor anyone to purchase and drive them.

Without those babies and a whole lot of education and training, and all of the time, prior research, and society needed to make those babies something other than hunter-gatherers waiting for the sabre-toothed tiger to eat them.
Babies are easy to replace. Trained humans less so. Veyrons less easy even than that, because it requires a lot of trained humans to make even one.

But on the bright side, in the long run, with no babies nobody would be crashing in to trees...

Babies are easy to replace

Anyone who's ever lost someone they care about would dispute that quite a bit. I think they'd rather have their child back than a piece of engineered metal. Veyrons can be replaced...human beings can't.

He did. But sshhhh, don't tell him, it's much more fun this way.

you missed the nodding :) above my first post i think.

Anyone who's ever lost someone they care about would dispute that quite a bit. I think they'd rather have their child back than a piece of engineered metal. Veyrons can be replaced...human beings can't.

You assume that I haven't.
You also ignore my distinguishing between "a baby", which is easy to replace, to "a trained human", which is less so. But we do have a society which is designed to do that, pretty much.

Starting from scratch, it takes longer to get to a Veyron than it does to get to a trained human than it does to get to a baby.

And, incidentally, to all those people saying it is 'dangerous' and 'excessive' in its speed, the article says nothing about the driver speeding, at all.
I don't know about speeding, but here's what the article says:

police have reported the Bugatti driver for driving without due care and attention.

Quotes the one below (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12399052&postcount=37)
Quotes the one above! (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12399057&postcount=38)

I knew someone would do that with the timewarp. It still makes my head hurt. :confused:
Little self-sufficient colonies in the midst of threads ... no-o-o-o!!
:p *pats*

you missed the nodding :) above my first post i think.He did. But sshhhh, don't tell him, it's much more fun this way. :p

This is what you get for driving your concept car on public roads.

I don't know about speeding, but here's what the article says:

According to an article I read the driver lost control at around 100mph. He can't be done for speeding despite what the crash investigation indicates because there is no recording of his actual speed that would stand up in court. Therefore driving without due care and attention.

Just to reiterate. This will probably be the best car to ever exist, as no company wille very try and put this much effort into a car again unless global warming magically stops. Also in making this car technological advancements were acheived which we may find useful in the future. In a century, this car will probably be worth hundreds of millions, it is like breaking one of the finest Stradivarius when it was just developed.

At least the mother, father, and unborn baby are all okay. And as another plus sign, the asshole gets to know that if he wasn't an idiot he wouldn't have wrecked his darling little crap car. Also, I don't know if the UK works the same, but here in America the family would essentially be able to make the guy pay for them to get a new van considering he's at fault for their old one being wrecked.

And I still don't see how anyone could like sports cars... all they can do is go fast. If you need haul a bunch of people or stuff you're pretty much screwed, and unless you're a lonely little hermit who never leaves his house or utterly suck beyond hope at time management the chances of needing a crap hauler or people mover are much greater than the chances of needing something fast.

And the reason most people won't put that effort into a car unless global warming stops is because other car makers are smart enough to realize that cars that are rough on the environment just aren't in demand.

Just to reiterate. This will probably be the best car to ever exist, as no company wille very try and put this much effort into a car again unless global warming magically stops. Also in making this car technological advancements were acheived which we may find useful in the future. In a century, this car will probably be worth hundreds of millions, it is like breaking one of the finest Stradivarius when it was just developed.

I still can't bring myself to care.

According to an article I read the driver lost control at around 100mph. He can't be done for speeding despite what the crash investigation indicates because there is no recording of his actual speed that would stand up in court. Therefore driving without due care and attention. Wow. So he was doing 100mph in a 40mph zone, in heavy rain.

Demented asshole.

Just to reiterate. This will probably be the best car to ever exist, as no company wille very try and put this much effort into a car again unless global warming magically stops. Also in making this car technological advancements were acheived which we may find useful in the future. In a century, this car will probably be worth hundreds of millions, it is like breaking one of the finest Stradivarius when it was just developed.

A Stradivarius can be used to make beautiful music. This car can only be used to endanger a lot of people while blowing carbondioxide into the athmosphere. It's not even suitable for having a nice shag on the backseat.

No, not quite the same league, I'm sorry.

I still can't bring myself to care.

You're not into cars, thats fine. I am... to each his own.

Also, I don't know if the UK works the same, but here in America the family would essentially be able to make the guy pay for them to get a new van considering he's at fault for their old one being wrecked.
Third-party insurance is mandatory.

unless you're a lonely little hermit who never leaves his house
And what's wrong with that?

dam would have made money off selling whats left of the car for scrap matel

A Stradivarius can be used to make beautiful music. This car can only be used to endanger a lot of people while blowing carbondioxide into the athmosphere. It's not even suitable for having a nice shag on the backseat.

No, not quite the same league, I'm sorry.

It makes your penis bigger :)

Since when are cars built for the intention of endangering people and blowing carbon dioxide into the air? Ad hominem.

How is it an ad hominem? Cars aren't people.

Since when are cars built for the intention of endangering people and blowing carbon dioxide into the air? Ad hominem.

What else is this particular car built for, then?

Edit : Oh, and an ad hominem is a persona insult. Unless you are a car yourself, I think the word you were looking for might have been "red herring"

It makes your penis bigger :)

Ah, THAT's why I just don't get cars. I don't need to make my penis any bigger :D

A Stradivarius can be used to make beautiful music. This car can only be used to endanger a lot of people while blowing carbondioxide into the athmosphere. It's not even suitable for having a nice shag on the backseat.

No, not quite the same league, I'm sorry.

Since when are cars built for the intention of endangering people and blowing carbon dioxide into the air? Ad hominem.

According to an article I read the driver lost control at around 100mph. He can't be done for speeding despite what the crash investigation indicates because there is no recording of his actual speed that would stand up in court. Therefore driving without due care and attention.

A careful investigation of the crash sight, which the police tend to conduct, would reveal enough proof to conclude he was speeding like an idiot. This is just first-semester physics stuff that could prove he was driving at 100 mph.

I try to resist saying this, but you're a rather sick person. You apparently seem to condone slamming a sports car into a minivan with a pregnant mother just because the sports car is "cooler" and don't think the driver of the sports car should be held responsible because there wasn't a cop to record the speed >.>
How about while we're at it we rewrite the history books to make Hitler sound like a cool guy? Japan and Italy were axis powers and France was on our side, and everyone knows Japan and Italy are cooler than France. Besides, did anyone here actually see the Nazis send people to the gas chambers?

Or how about we look at this with some intelligence and respect for human life and realize that anyone who follows simple basic safe driving practices of paying attention to what's around you and not speeding would have a very easy time not hitting anyone else.

so what so fun driving a car,i've been behind a wheel of a car and don't get it

so what so fun driving a car,i've been behind a wheel of a car and don't get it

It's not so much the actual act of driving as it is the freedom of not relying on anyone else to give you a ride. Thus why I place higher importance on practicality and safety than how fun a car is and would recommend a family car over a sports car or a minivan over an SUV any day. The fun factor wears down as no matter what car you have driving can be a real bitch, but you'll always appreciate utility.

A Stradivarius can be used to make beautiful music. This car can only be used to endanger a lot of people while blowing carbondioxide into the athmosphere. It's not even suitable for having a nice shag on the backseat.

No, not quite the same league, I'm sorry.

To some people the sound of the W16 engine is beautiful music. As for the cars only uses, did you know that the handbrake on the Veyron has ABS to enable it to be used in case the main brakes fail. A feature that will probably be imported into standard road cars as a safety feature in future.

As for endangouring people - road safety has probably reached a peak. Road deaths in the U.K have reduced to about a tenth in the past 50 years, the same 50 years that has seen an increase in car numbers from tens of thousands to 31,000,000.

In this car you don't need to shag on the back seat - take her to your mansion and screw her in the four-poster.

Ah, THAT's why I just don't get cars. I don't need to make my penis any bigger :D

Same here ;)

A careful investigation of the crash sight, which the police tend to conduct, would reveal enough proof to conclude he was speeding like an idiot. This is just first-semester physics stuff that could prove he was driving at 100 mph.

I try to resist saying this, but you're a rather sick person. You apparently seem to condone slamming a sports car into a minivan with a pregnant mother just because the sports car is "cooler" and don't think the driver of the sports car should be held responsible because there wasn't a cop to record the speed >.>
How about while we're at it we rewrite the history books to make Hitler sound like a cool guy? Japan and Italy were axis powers and France was on our side, and everyone knows Japan and Italy are cooler than France. Besides, did anyone here actually see the Nazis send people to the gas chambers?

Or how about we look at this with some intelligence and respect for human life and realize that anyone who follows simple basic safe driving practices of paying attention to what's around you and not speeding would have a very easy time not hitting anyone else.

You can't condone accidents in specific terms. The Astra Van and the fact the woman had let some pleb blow his beans up her muff are incidental.

As for rewriting the history books - not in the same league - perspective is an important tool. My thread was about how gutted would you be to see a peice of engineering brilliance destroyed. To hijack it and compare it to historical world events is as bad as the Fort Knox analogy earlier posted.

To show off the amazing feats of mankind to name a few.

How is something as ugly, uncomfortable and potentially dangerous a feat?

What else is this particular car built for, then?


To show off the amazing feats of mankind to name a few.

It's not so much the actual act of driving as it is the freedom of not relying on anyone else to give you a ride. Thus why I place higher importance on practicality and safety than how fun a car is and would recommend a family car over a sports car or a minivan over an SUV any day. The fun factor wears down as no matter what car you have driving can be a real bitch, but you'll always appreciate utility.

was given a car to my driver's licence in the end other people used it as i see no point of getting my driver's licence

To some people the sound of the W16 engine is beautiful music. As for the cars only uses, did you know that the handbrake on the Veyron has ABS to enable it to be used in case the main brakes fail. A feature that will probably be imported into standard road cars as a safety feature in future.

As for endangouring people - road safety has probably reached a peak. Road deaths in the U.K have reduced to about a tenth in the past 50 years, the same 50 years that has seen an increase in car numbers from tens of thousands to 31,000,000.

In this car you don't need to shag on the back seat - take her to your mansion and screw her in the four-poster.

To most people, it would just be annoyingly loud, though.
And that ABS added to the handbrakes apparently were of brilliant use to the driver.
You can't make cars safe. Not as long as there are people steering them.

And you wouldn't ever get me into a mansion let alone a four-poster bed, honey.

Ah, THAT's why I just don't get cars. I don't need to make my penis any bigger :D

The penis extension factor with this car doesn't really apply. It's rear engined so no protruding bonnet. Unlike Cadilacs and Jaguars.

To most people, it would just be annoyingly loud, though.
And that ABS added to the handbrakes apparently were of brilliant use to the driver.
You can't make cars safe. Not as long as there are people steering them.

And you wouldn't ever get me into a mansion let alone a four-poster bed, honey.

Well don't worry. I wouldn't touch you with someone else's.

You can't make cars safe. Not as long as there are people steering them.


So why attack this car imparticular then? If driven at normal speeds, it's probably one of the safest sports cars in the world.

So why attack this car imparticular then? If driven at normal speeds, it's probably one of the safest sports cars in the world.

Safest for whom? For the driver or the unlucky people in the other car? And what sports car is made to be "driven at normal speeds"?

And you wouldn't ever get me into a mansion let alone a four-poster bed, honey.

ar nuts :p

ar nuts :p

Get a car with a decent backseat :p

Get a car with a decent backseat :p

:fluffle: in a Mini :p

Safest for whom? For the driver or the unlucky people in the other car? And what sports car is made to be "driven at normal speeds"?

If it crashed at 100mph and no-one was killed I'd call that pretty safe. Try that in a Rover 75, without carbon-fibre crumple zones and incredible brakes.
And what is a normal speed? On the Isle of Mann there are no speed limits out of the urban areas. What's normal there?

unless you are a car yourself

that would be cool

http://www.samoviemag.co.za/reviews/photos/cars.jpg

If it crashed at 100mph and no-one was killed I'd call that pretty safe. Try that in a Rover 75, without carbon-fibre crumple zones and incredible brakes.
And what is a normal speed? On the Isle of Mann there are no speed limits out of the urban areas. What's normal there?

So it's safest for the driver, not the person(s) in the car he might hit. Thanks for elaborating.
I've never been to the Isle of Man, but if roads there are anything like roads in Ireland, 100 mph was way beyond what can be considered normal. And the fact that he did hit another car shows very clearly that he was going at a speed where he no longer had the necessary control over his own car.

that would be cool

http://www.samoviemag.co.za/reviews/photos/cars.jpg

*lol
You do know that Hydesland will always look like that red car in my mind now?

http://www.spiegel.de/international/0,1518,470482,00.html

More news from Geneva. A whole lot of uninteresting crap about environmentally friendly cars, but also that Audi will have an S5 and that the new M3 is being presented there.

And another article in German: http://www.spiegel.de/auto/aktuell/0,1518,470327,00.html "Beasts of the Autobahn" :D

It's not a Brave New World yet, guys. Not yet.

If it crashed at 100mph and no-one was killed I'd call that pretty safe. Try that in a Rover 75, without carbon-fibre crumple zones and incredible brakes.
I think when you hit a solid object at 100 mph it really makes no difference how well you are decellerating at the time.

If the driver had stolen the car, a single eyewitness to speeding would be sufficient. If the driver had killed the pregnant woman it would be "culpable driving" -- a criminal offence. If not manslaughter.
Do I detect a certain "OMG, he's suffered enough. Imagine pranging that" in the attitude of the British police?
Quite aside from the car involved, it sounds like criminally bad driving to me.

And what is a normal speed? On the Isle of Mann there are no speed limits out of the urban areas. What's normal there?

I'm guess they don't have to worry about folks driving over 120 mph. They run out of Isle before they can get any faster! :p

:fluffle: in a Mini :p

Either you're a real shortass, or you're into bondage!

Ever noticed how most people driving a Mini are crouching? The roof's too low for one thing (unless you're a shortass or are into bondage,) and also they have to duck down to peer up at normal sized cars, passing tricycles etc.

Either you're a real shortass, or you're into bondage!

Ever noticed how most people driving a Mini are crouching? The roof's too low for one thing (unless you're a shortass or are into bondage,) and also they have to duck down to peer up at normal sized cars, passing tricycles etc.

at 184cm i think not and no i'm not into that
if i'm going to have sex in back of a car it be HSV Club Sports