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Steriotypes

Luipaard
06-03-2007, 17:24
I was horribly supprised today on spotting a member of the under 21's football team, who is hot and funny and great in bed comming out of an accountancy lecture.
Now this got me thinking, Do you think people really fit to the steriotypes of their subject? Its understandable that people wouldnt fit to the steriotypes of hair colour etc, but your subject or career choice is directly related to your personality and skills usually.

So basically Whats your subject? Whats the steriotype? Do you fit it?
Deus Malum
06-03-2007, 17:27
I was horribly supprised today on spotting a member of the under 21's football team, who is hot and funny and great in bed comming out of an accountancy lecture.
Now this got me thinking, Do you think people really fit to the steriotypes of their subject? Its understandable that people wouldnt fit to the steriotypes of hair colour etc, but your subject or career choice is directly related to your personality and skills usually.

So basically Whats your subject? Whats the steriotype? Do you fit it?

My high school, a very small class size (28 kids in my graduating class) magnet school, put that into perspective very much for me. I'd always been like "f-ing jocks, at least I'm smarter than all of them." Until some of them started getting better grades. I stopped slacking off and kicked their asses at it, but they still proved they had it in them to do well. Some of them were *gasp* intelligent, even if they were a tad arrogant.
Cabra West
06-03-2007, 17:29
I was horribly supprised today on spotting a member of the under 21's football team, who is hot and funny and great in bed comming out of an accountancy lecture.
Now this got me thinking, Do you think people really fit to the steriotypes of their subject? Its understandable that people wouldnt fit to the steriotypes of hair colour etc, but your subject or career choice is directly related to your personality and skills usually.

So basically Whats your subject? Whats the steriotype? Do you fit it?

If they do, I'd say you're a teacher :D
Cluichstan
06-03-2007, 17:32
I haven't the foggiest what a "steriotype" is. :p
Luipaard
06-03-2007, 17:33
i study medicine and i don't know the stereotype that's connected to that one, so i don't know.
i think that i would fit better in the stereotype of people who study history, because others who don't really know me that well think i study history.

Oh you poor thing, being thought to be a history student?? Thats one of the worst insults imaginable!!
(P.S. you can probably guess im not a history student. And if i wasnt female i would fit almost perfectly to the steriotype of the typical engineer)
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 17:34
So basically Whats your subject? Whats the steriotype? Do you fit it?

i study medicine and i don't know the stereotype that's connected to that one, so i don't know.
i think that i would fit better in the stereotype of people who study history, because others who don't really know me that well think i study history.
Luipaard
06-03-2007, 17:37
I haven't the foggiest what a "steriotype" is. :p

A stereotype: "A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image."

http://www.answers.com/stereotype&r=67

e.g. like blonds are supposed to be stupid. That is a stereotype. Its not necisarily true, but its just a general conception about a group.
Cluichstan
06-03-2007, 17:39
A stereotype: "A conventional, formulaic, and oversimplified conception, opinion, or image."

http://www.answers.com/stereotype&r=67

e.g. like blonds are supposed to be stupid. That is a stereotype. Its not necisarily true, but its just a general conception about a group.

You can't really be that thick, can you? I was mocking your spelling. :p
Nadkor
06-03-2007, 17:40
Oh you poor thing, being thought to be a history student?? Thats one of the worst insults imaginable!!
(P.S. you can probably guess im not a history student. And if i wasnt female i would fit almost perfectly to the steriotype of the typical engineer)

Here, history students have a reputation for being lazy (and having almost no work to do) and being drunken. I'm proud to say I live up to that reputation quite nicely.
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 17:43
i study medicine and i don't know the stereotype that's connected to that one, so i don't know.
i think that i would fit better in the stereotype of people who study history, because others who don't really know me that well think i study history.

Here, students of medicine are thought of as zombies almost entirely devoid of social life... ha I fit that stereotype exactly.
Most people who don't know me very well are surprised when they learn that I'm a a rocker and love rock music.
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 17:44
Oh you poor thing, being thought to be a history student?? Thats one of the worst insults imaginable!!
(P.S. you can probably guess im not a history student. And if i wasnt female i would fit almost perfectly to the steriotype of the typical engineer)

what's wrong with history? if i didn't do medicine i would be doing history because it seems more interesting. (although it probably isn't and there aren't a lot o interesting jobs you can do with it) and one of my best friends studies history, and he's cool.

and engineer isn't something to be proud of either :p . there are probably also gradations in engineers in scotland but civil engineers here have quite a bad name. no offense but they are (stereotypically) asocial, arrogant and boring (the last one must be true,their parties are boring :rolleyes: )
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 17:48
Here, history students have a reputation for being lazy (and having almost no work to do) and being drunken. I'm proud to say I live up to that reputation quite nicely.

you see, that's me exactly :eek: . i'm also told i look/am quite 'leftist' wich is also a stereotype of history students.

Here, students of medicine are thought of as zombies almost entirely devoid of social life... ha I fit that stereotype exactly.
Most people who don't know me very well are surprised when they learn that I'm a a rocker and love rock music.

hehe, i can assure you the opposite is true here, although i don't know the stereotype of medicine students here most of us have a quite active social life and if we look like zombies that's because we partied the night before.
Luipaard
06-03-2007, 17:48
Wow, stereotypes are so different in different countries!
I have always seen history students as exceptionally boring, who sit arround in librarys alot.
Medics are usually seen as people who party more than any other dicipline (except maybe vets)
Compulsive Depression
06-03-2007, 17:48
My headphones fit, and they're the stereo type.
Neesika
06-03-2007, 17:52
I'm in Law.

I'm not rich, I have no lawyers in my family (just criminals hehehe), I'm not conservative or a WASP.

I am a fucking bitch though, so perhaps I fit the stereotype in that way.
Neesika
06-03-2007, 17:53
I haven't the foggiest what a "steriotype" is. :p

I didn't expect you to pull a spelling nazi!:D
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 17:53
hehe, i can assure you the opposite is true here, although i don't know the stereotype of medicine students here most of us have a quite active social life and if we look like zombies that's because we partied the night before.

*drools with envy*
How I wish I am studying there. :headbang:
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 17:55
Wow, stereotypes are so different in different countries!

yes, interesting isn't it?


I have always seen history students as exceptionally boring, who sit arround in librarys alot.

well, the guy who studies history has to sit in libraries a lot, that's true, but he isn't boring at all.


Medics are usually seen as people who party more than any other dicipline (except maybe vets)

hehe, last thursday we had a party together with the vets. :D (you should also take int account that we study longer in terms of years than every other subject. so if you look at our whole student life we party much more than those damned vets;))
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 17:57
*drools with envy*
How I wish I am studying there. :headbang:

well you live in italy am i correct? maybe you could look for some kind of exchange student program :)
i guess you should be quite popular here with the girls too, seeing how you're italian.
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 18:00
well you live in italy am i correct? maybe you could look for some kind of exchange student program :)
i guess you should be quite popular here with the girls too, seeing how you're italian.

Um, actually, no. *hears burst bubble* And exchange programs here are rare (though we had a Finnish exchange student last year). And girls... oh my, I have absolutely NO love life! I don't even have a life, much less a love life!
*ponders how to get a life*
Rejistania
06-03-2007, 18:04
i study medicine and i don't know the stereotype that's connected to that one, so i don't know.
i think that i would fit better in the stereotype of people who study history, because others who don't really know me that well think i study history.

I can tell a joke which puts it nicely. A professor gives 3 students of different subjects a telephone book. The maths student says after looking at it: "there seems to be no formula behind this so I assume those are definitions and without context, definitions are worthless" The computer science student makes a detailled draft of a database containing these informations and the student of medicine looks tiredly at the professor and asks: "till when?"
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 18:05
Um, actually, no. *hears burst bubble* And exchange programs here are rare (though we had a Finnish exchange student last year). And girls... oh my, I have absolutely NO love life! I don't even have a life, much less a love life!
*ponders how to get a life*

where do you live then? your location looks quite quite italian. and don't you have some kind of program in wich you can do one of your last years in a foreign country?
Nadkor
06-03-2007, 18:07
you see, that's me exactly :eek: . i'm also told i look/am quite 'leftist' wich is also a stereotype of history students.

Haha, well I'm pretty much that as well...
Luipaard
06-03-2007, 18:07
Um, actually, no. *hears burst bubble* And exchange programs here are rare (though we had a Finnish exchange student last year). And girls... oh my, I have absolutely NO love life! I don't even have a life, much less a love life!
*ponders how to get a life*

Best way to get a life is to join some fun societies. Maybe roleplay? Or some form of fun, non-team based sport like gymnastics or trampolining?
That and alcohol :D It cures everything except liver disease.
Nadkor
06-03-2007, 18:08
Wow, stereotypes are so different in different countries!
I have always seen history students as exceptionally boring, who sit arround in librarys alot.
Medics are usually seen as people who party more than any other dicipline (except maybe vets)

Ah come on, even history students I know in Scotland are pretty much the same as me :p
Luipaard
06-03-2007, 18:08
I didn't expect you to pull a spelling nazi!:D

Im quite proud actually, only one letter wrong and it was a vowel anyway (which just dont count). Some people really dont have anything intelectual to say do they, so just have to point out others mistakes.
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 18:11
where do you live then? your location looks quite quite italian. and don't you have some kind of program in wich you can do one of your last years in a foreign country?

My location's actually my location when I'm doing RP. (sorry for that.) I *made* a language for my NS country that looks like Italian, but isn't. Anyway, I describe myself as an Italophile (I like many things about Italy)... but I'm from the Philippines. :)

Programs like that are rare here. (I don't really know, but I haven't heard of anything like it except for one medical school that would put you in a New York hospital for the internship. But I didn't take that option.)
Neesika
06-03-2007, 18:11
Im quite proud actually, only one letter wrong and it was a vowel anyway (which just dont count). Some people really dont have anything intelectual to say do they, so just have to point out others mistakes.

No, some of us have plenty of intellectual things to say, but royally enjoy a good grammatical thrashing anyway. The two are not mutually exclusive you know.
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 18:13
I can tell a joke which puts it nicely. A professor gives 3 students of different subjects a telephone book. The maths student says after looking at it: "there seems to be no formula behind this so I assume those are definitions and without context, definitions are worthless" The computer science student makes a detailled draft of a database containing these informations and the student of medicine looks tiredly at the professor and asks: "till when?"

lol. yeah, it's true to an extent though, you just have to study stuff like anatomy by heart. but we also have to think a lot my first exam was about chemistry, biochemistry and physics, not really something you can do without understanding it.
and people who study law have to study way more than us.
Cluichstan
06-03-2007, 18:15
I didn't expect you to pull a spelling nazi!:D

I do quite often. I'm an editor by profession. ;)
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 18:18
Best way to get a life is to join some fun societies. Maybe roleplay? Or some form of fun, non-team based sport like gymnastics or trampolining?
That and alcohol :D It cures everything except liver disease.

true, just join something or go to somewhere, you'll meet people eventually.

My location's actually my location when I'm doing RP. (sorry for that.) I *made* a language for my NS country that looks like Italian, but isn't. Anyway, I describe myself as an Italophile (I like many things about Italy)... but I'm from the Philippines. :)

Programs like that are rare here. (I don't really know, but I haven't heard of anything like it except for one medical school that would put you in a New York hospital for the internship. But I didn't take that option.)

yeah italy is cool. i hope to do one of my last years in a third world country (although i assume that's only for the best students, and i'm far from the best with all the lazyness and social life)
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 18:29
yeah italy is cool. i hope to do one of my last years in a third world country (although i assume that's only for the best students, and i'm far from the best with all the lazyness and social life)

You don't really need to be the best to go to a third world country ;) . Most people would be very grateful just to see a doctor, regardless of whether he likes to party or not. We welcome people here, as we have a shortage of health professionals. Actually we always get nagged about not going abroad, 'cause there are just so many people needing help here.

and people who study law have to study way more than us.

Law! We just had a session related to medical jurisprudence, with a lawyer lecturer, and we had readings twice as thick as what we would normally have for a medical lecture. And we have to memorize even the littlest details of it.

(Used to think I can get away taking both medicine and law... but after that - screw Law. I probably won't be able to make it.)
Neesika
06-03-2007, 18:32
I do quite often. I'm an editor by profession. ;)

Oh god, seriously?
*runs*
Cluichstan
06-03-2007, 18:34
Oh god, seriously?
*runs*

Yup, and I'm currently out of work (the magazine for which I was working folded a few months ago), so I'm sharpening my fangs on you lot. ;)
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 18:35
You don't really need to be the best to go to a third world country ;) . Most people would be very grateful just to see a doctor, regardless of whether he likes to party or not. We welcome people here, as we have a shortage of health professionals. Actually we always get nagged about not going abroad, 'cause there are just so many people needing help here.


yeah, i know that but i don't think they let everyone go abroad during their studies, there are probably a lot of people who'd like to go to a third world country, but you need a good motivation and probably good grades.
i can always go and work for an NGO when i graduate.
Neesika
06-03-2007, 18:38
Yup, and I'm currently out of work (the magazine for which I was working folded a few months ago), so I'm sharpening my fangs on you lot. ;)

That's exactly what I do with aboriginal issues here :D You've got to keep sharp!
Cluichstan
06-03-2007, 18:40
That's exactly what I do with aboriginal issues here :D You've got to keep sharp!

You left out a period in that post. ;)
Rameria
06-03-2007, 18:43
I can't think of any stereotypes about people who studied international relations or French.
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 18:43
yeah, i know that but i don't think they let everyone go abroad during their studies, there are probably a lot of people who'd like to go to a third world country, but you need a good motivation and probably good grades.
i can always go and work for an NGO when i graduate.

That's nice :) . I know of a story of a somebody who failed almost every subject in med school but he is now greatly appreciated in the rural communities he chose to serve.

And speaking of motivation... Guess I have to get lots of that too. I can't seem to get myself to study for Pediatrics... :headbang:
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 18:48
That's nice :) . I know of a story of a somebody who failed almost every subject in med school but he is now greatly appreciated in the rural communities he chose to serve.

And speaking of motivation... Guess I have to get lots of that too. I can't seem to get myself to study for Pediatrics... :headbang:

up until now i didn't fail one subject (ok, i'm only studying for 1 semester ;))

yeah i can have that too, we had 3 weeks to prepare for 2 large exams. and it sucked, mostly because i couldn't get myself to work.
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 18:59
up until now i didn't fail one subject (ok, i'm only studying for 1 semester ;))

yeah i can have that too, we had 3 weeks to prepare for 2 large exams. and it sucked, mostly because i couldn't get myself to work.

I am great at procrastination. It seems that as time goes by, I excel more and more at it. Oh, and I know damn well that I have exams, but... the break is coming!!!

And I used to fret about grades, but nowadays, I'm happy just to pass. My usual attitude: "Meh. As long as I pass, s'all good." Didn't care much about grades anymore, as long as I am learning. Guess that attitude helped me cope with the weekly exams. (Oh the joy I derive from exam-free weeks!!!)

I really wish the break would come soon, but I have four more exams to hurdle... and one is actually TOMORROW. Lazy me.
Ilaer
06-03-2007, 19:01
I didn't expect you to pull a spelling nazi!:D

No, that's usually my job.
I expected this thread to be more similar to mine of a couple of weeks back than it is; I'm happy to say it isn't.
Oh, and the stereotypes thing: I'm a mathematician and a physicist. Um... I don't defy any of the stereotypes.
Or the stereotypes for historians... which I also am.
Or those for excellent students of English... which I also am.
Hmmm...
We might have a problem...

Ilaer
Neesika
06-03-2007, 19:04
You left out a period in that post. ;)

Can't take away your raison d'etre.
Isidoor
06-03-2007, 19:05
but nowadays, I'm happy just to pass. My usual attitude: "Meh. As long as I pass, s'all good." Didn't care much about grades anymore, as long as I am learning.

yeah, it's true to an extent, your uni should make sure that as long as someone passes his exam he knows enough to be a good docter.
Brutland and Norden
06-03-2007, 19:13
yeah, it's true to an extent, your uni should make sure that as long as someone passes his exam he knows enough to be a good docter.

We have lots of practical exams (which btw is my exam... pediatric physical examination) for that. And I don't really think grades dictate how well a doctor one would become. Some folks getting nice grades suck at bedside manners; some almost fail every subject, yet create a good relationship with patients... the latter are good doctors.
Which, going back to stereotypes, relationships are pretty hard to establish when you look like somebody from a rock band. (I used to sport a faux mohawk and would like to get even just a henna tattoo, but oh well, tattoos and piercings are not allowed for exposed body parts. 'Cause it totally destroys a majority of folks' concepts of a doctor.)