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Because this sure sounds familiar:

http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2007/03/05/tomo/story.jpg

Edit: Except, of course, there are a lot more penguins around here, so the net effect isn't quite the same. ;)

This sounds more familiar to me:

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/022807.jpg

This is familiar, too

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/022007.jpg

Difference is, Tom Tomorrow is funny because he's accurate, while Chris Muir is neither.

Difference is, Tom Tomorrow is funny because he's accurate, while Chris Muir is neither.

Just Kimchi acting out his Bushevik Defense Mechanism par for the course Nazz.

This sounds more familiar to me:

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/022807.jpg

Generalites usually kill dogs? I don't get it :confused:

Generalites usually kill dogs? I don't get it :confused:

No, no, "liberals" kill dogs by supporting terrorists.

Edit: Except, of course, there are a lot more penguins around here, so the net effect isn't quite the same. ;)

And penguins are cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuute! :fluffle:

No, no, "liberals" kill dogs by supporting terrorists.

Liberals are former snipers?

And the best one...

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/cartoons/123106.jpg

Liberals are former snipers?

Metaphorically, aye.

And the best one...

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/cartoons/123106.jpg

Dude, that's shit.

No, no, "liberals" kill dogs by supporting terrorists.

Aha... I see...




*Doesn't*


Because "liberals" hate america, they used to be snipers, and yada yada yada the dog is dead. :confused:

Aha... I see...




*Doesn't*


Because "liberals" hate america, they used to be snipers, and yada yada yada the dog is dead. :confused:

Maybe liberals are hypocrites because they secretly want the noisy dog dead and that contradicts the orders from the animal rights overlords of the party?

Dude, that's shit.

Really?? Looks like the troops intentionally snubbed him, just as the cartoon suggests.

http://www.urbangrounds.com/images/Kerry_Dines_Alone.jpg

And the best one...

http://www.daybydaycartoon.com/cartoons/123106.jpg

so is this one saying that only reservists are intelligent and educated? surely that's just as insulting to regular soldiers. or more so seeing as it appears to be intentional rather the result of taking remarks out of context.

Really?? Looks like the troops intentionally snubbed him, just as the cartoon suggests.

http://www.urbangrounds.com/images/Kerry_Dines_Alone.jpg

Nice try (http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jan/05/the_wingnut_lonely_kerry_story_is_bogus_according_to_witnesses). But thanks for playing anyway.

Specifically, it turns out that Kerry was at that table to conduct an off-the-record breakfast discussion with two reporters, so there would have been no reason whatsover for troops to be sitting with them. In fact, Kerry and the reporters even sought out empty seats, I'm told.

The two reporters who met with Kerry that morning are Marc Santora of The New York Times and Mark Danner of The New York Review, The New Yorker and other publications. Both Santora and Danner confimed to me that they met with Kerry -- on the morning of Dec. 17, according to Kerry's office and to Danner. (The person who posted the photo also confirmed that it was taken that morning.)

Danner confirmed to me that he's the guy with his back to the camera, saying his jacket and the back of his head looked the same as in the photo. He added that his position in relation to Kerry was the same as the photo showed. And here's what Danner had to say to me about the empty seats: "If there were empty seats it's because we sought them out. We wanted an empty table so we could talk. It's that simple."

so is this one saying that only reservists are intelligent and educated? surely that's just as insulting to regular soldiers. or more so seeing as it appears to be intentional rather the result of taking remarks out of context.

That's not what it's saying.

It's saying that the troops aren't as ignorant as Kerry thought.

And they ended up snubbing him for it.

Aha... I see...




*Doesn't*


Because "liberals" hate america, they used to be snipers, and yada yada yada the dog is dead. :confused:

Well, it makes as much sense as the cartoon.

Aha... I see...




*Doesn't*


Because "liberals" hate america, they used to be snipers, and yada yada yada the dog is dead. :confused:

You honestly don't get it, do you? Poor fella...

That's not what it's saying.

It's saying that the troops aren't as ignorant as Kerry thought.

And they ended up snubbing him for it.

guess that just goes to show you any remarks can be twisted to mean new things when taken out of context and used to push an agenda, doesn't it.

The UN voted for the Iraq war? :confused:

Nah, that looks like he's sat down at a table where there aren't many people, on his way around the room (after sharing war stories and having a great time with other soldiers present), displaying clearly how caring Kerry cares even about those in the army who don't have many friends.

Ah, interpreting photos to fit an agenda, isn't it fun?

There's a better explanation (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12395783&postcount=17), one that DK/EO will never admit to.

Really?? Looks like the troops intentionally snubbed him, just as the cartoon suggests.

http://www.urbangrounds.com/images/Kerry_Dines_Alone.jpg

Nah, that looks like he's sat down at a table where there aren't many people, on his way around the room (after sharing war stories and having a great time with other soldiers present), displaying clearly how caring Kerry cares even about those in the army who don't have many friends.

Ah, interpreting photos to fit an agenda, isn't it fun?

Nice try (http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jan/05/the_wingnut_lonely_kerry_story_is_bogus_according_to_witnesses). But thanks for playing anyway.

Nice try - we were told what he did during Winter Soldier when we were in Basic Training.

Can't really love Kerry and be a soldier after that.

Nice try - we were told what he did during Winter Soldier when we were in Basic Training.

Can't really love Kerry and be a soldier after that.

So in other words, facts don't matter when your opinion is at stake. The reporters say they were looking to be alone, but that doesn't matter because you know that the soldiers didn't want anything to do with Kerry anyway. Riiiiiiiight.

Tell you what Nazz. We're holding a Welcome Home party for a wounded friend (he just got back from over there). March 21. The Capitol Grille, at 6th and Pennsylvania.

Nearly 110 will be attending, most of whom have had three tours across Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you can find one of them that has something nice to say about Kerry, I'll give you 1000 dollars on the spot.

And that would prove..... dick.

Tell you what Nazz. We're holding a Welcome Home party for a wounded friend (he just got back from over there). March 21. The Capitol Grille, at 6th and Pennsylvania.

Nearly 110 will be attending, most of whom have had three tours across Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you can find one of them that has something nice to say about Kerry, I'll give you 1000 dollars on the spot.

So in other words, facts don't matter when your opinion is at stake. The reporters say they were looking to be alone, but that doesn't matter because you know that the soldiers didn't want anything to do with Kerry anyway. Riiiiiiiight.

The facts are that Winter Soldier, and Kerry's testimony thereto, were complete lies and fabrications, meant to further a political career.

We know all about him.

Difference is, Tom Tomorrow is funny because he's accurate, while Chris Muir is neither.

See, that's the whole problem. Tomorrow isn't even close -- these phony claims to have had one's patriotism attacked are just another direction in the ridiculous rhetoric that comes out of the Democratic party. All of it is nonsense. It's like calling Jesse Jackson a shakedown artist -- If you do, you're racist. The Democrats have figured out that if you call one of them out on bad policy, well that's attacking their patriotism.

And then, there's the 'truth'. Nazz, this is from your favorite, the DailyKos (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/1/20/175232/080/479?mode=alone;showrate=1#479)

Liberals shouldn't pretend to be in favour of the military (as a concept most liberals are instinctively against it) when we aren't. The military are 'special cirucmstances' - men who must do a dirty job when all other opportunities and options are exhausted. They aren't men to be lionised and put on a pedestal - they're like toilet cleaners: it's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it. There's nothing brave or noble about it - it's a dirty, degrading, inhuman affair, but one which is occasionally necessary.

Maybe TT isn't so far off, after all.

See, that's the whole problem. Tomorrow isn't even close -- these phony claims to have had one's patriotism attacked are just another direction in the ridiculous rhetoric that comes out of the Democratic party. All of it is nonsense. It's like calling Jesse Jackson a shakedown artist -- If you do, you're racist. The Democrats have figured out that if you call one of them out on bad policy, well that's attacking their patriotism.

You're kidding, right? Democrats weren't called anti-American for having the temerity to object to the war in Iraq? For simply questioning policy changes? Fuck, man--it happened in your own state. Saxby Chambliss ran an ad that morphed Max Cleland into Osama Bin Laden because he wanted to make sure that federal employees in the newly created DHS would have union protections. To say I'm insulted by your statement above is to be too kind about it.

And that would prove..... dick.

Hardly. You know you would lose that one.

Maybe liberals are hypocrites because they secretly want the noisy dog dead and that contradicts the orders from the animal rights overlords of the party?
WSamnit! Where's the gay penguin overlords when we need them?!?!
That's not what it's saying.

It's saying that the troops aren't as ignorant as Kerry thought.

And they ended up snubbing him for it.
And that the invasion wasn't a mistake and that the UN voted for it. Pffft! That's really the only funny part.

"It's funny, because it's not true!" :)
Well, it makes as much sense as the cartoon.

Aw, I had hoped it made more sense. That's why I had to make this:

http://img160.imageshack.us/img160/6970/motivator4041591nl0.jpg

Tell you what Nazz. We're holding a Welcome Home party for a wounded friend (he just got back from over there). March 21. The Capitol Grille, at 6th and Pennsylvania.

Nearly 110 will be attending, most of whom have had three tours across Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you can find one of them that has something nice to say about Kerry, I'll give you 1000 dollars on the spot.

I'm thinking of taking the "What do you think of Kerry's hair?" tack. Hmm?

And that the invasion wasn't a mistake and that the UN voted for it. Pffft! That's really the only funny part.

Gee, why did they approve it after the fact?

Gee, why did they approve it after the fact?
Did they? (e.a., source?)

Next you'll tell me that the Democrats didn't vote for the war, so it's not their mistake...

or you'll tell me that Bush (a man you think is a complete idiot), managed to fool tens of people you say are so smart...

Next you'll tell me that the Democrats didn't vote for the war, so it's not their mistake...

or you'll tell me that Bush (a man you think is a complete idiot), managed to fool tens of people you say are so smart...

Since when did we consider people in general to be smart?

You honestly don't get it, do you? Poor fella...

Here's the point where you go: "See, it's funny because..." and we'll see if your interpretation of it is more like NSG than the OP.

Do that now... *Theme from Jeopardy starts playing*

I'm thinking of taking the "What do you think of Kerry's hair?" tack. Hmm?

Or if they liked the name John.

Here's the point where you go: "See, it's funny because..." and we'll see if your interpretation of it is more like NSG than the OP.

Do that now... *Theme from Jeopardy starts playing*

It would ruin the joke. And you wouldn't get it anyway.

Really, to get it, you have to know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts.

Or if they liked the name John.

Ooh, good one. *nodnod*

It would ruin the joke. And you wouldn't get it anyway.

Really, to get it, you have to know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts.

bit of a waste of time posting it then, eh?

Gee, why did they approve it after the fact?

They didn't.


Neither UNSC resolution 1483 nor resolution 1546 approved it. No other resolution either, for that matter.

It would ruin the joke. And you wouldn't get it anyway.

Really, to get it, you have to know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts.

I've actually read quite a bit of Day by Day. *shrug* I got it, it just ain't all that amusing.

It would ruin the joke. And you wouldn't get it anyway.

Really, to get it, you have to know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts.

Ah, so it's an inside joke that I wasn't supposed to get. And good lord, you expected me to get it automatically anyway. How very "like NSG" indeed. :rolleyes:

It would ruin the joke. And you wouldn't get it anyway.

Really, to get it, you have to know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts.Good God, what is this, fucking kindergarten? Geez!

I've actually read quite a bit of Day by Day. *shrug* I got it, it just ain't all that amusing.Care to enlighten us?

Tell you what Nazz. We're holding a Welcome Home party for a wounded friend (he just got back from over there). March 21. The Capitol Grille, at 6th and Pennsylvania.

Nearly 110 will be attending, most of whom have had three tours across Iraq and Afghanistan.

If you can find one of them that has something nice to say about Kerry, I'll give you 1000 dollars on the spot.

So you are arguing that the solders were being petty dicks rather then being considerate and allowing the reporters and Kerry to have space for their interview?

What an odd argument.

Nice try (http://electioncentral.tpmcafe.com/blog/electioncentral/2007/jan/05/the_wingnut_lonely_kerry_story_is_bogus_according_to_witnesses). But thanks for playing anyway.

And that is the sound of EO getting owned. Again. It's getting to be background noise...

Ooh, good one. *nodnod*

Sounds like an easy grand...

Ok? The penguin was funny.

Did anybody even smile at DK's offerings.....Nope. I for one thought Infinite Revolution's post above summed up my hence rather confused thoughts about the last one excellently:

so is this one saying that only reservists are intelligent and educated? surely that's just as insulting to regular soldiers. or more so seeing as it appears to be intentional rather the result of taking remarks out of context.

Ok? The penguin was funny.

Did anybody even smile at DK's offerings.....

Ok? The penguin was funny.

Did anybody even smile at DK's offerings.....

They had a weird flow to them ... I think the writer has to get some better flow to his comedy the one he is choosing does not really work for the subject matter.

You're kidding, right? Democrats weren't called anti-American for having the temerity to object to the war in Iraq? For simply questioning policy changes? Fuck, man--it happened in your own state. Saxby Chambliss ran an ad that morphed Max Cleland into Osama Bin Laden because he wanted to make sure that federal employees in the newly created DHS would have union protections. To say I'm insulted by your statement above is to be too kind about it.

I am saying that a bunch of children of the Sixties, as well as the wannabees that read and post here, are blowing every little insult out of proportion. They've figured out that they can play the 'patriotism' card and get sympathy, so they will milk it for all it's worth. The only people calling anyone anti-American because of their intense hatred of the President and his policies are the Democrats, themselves.

Max Cleland lost his race because he forgot he represented the State of Georgia, in his overzealous efforts to toady to the DNC. And I don't recall the ad, but it you do have to wonder to whom his allegiance is given, when he supports the kind of utter nonsense as unionization of federal agents. Perhaps we'd be better off in the Marines in Afghanistan had a local, so that they could decide what was in their best interests? That's not the way things work, pal, not for the military and hampering the way the HSA handles their own forces isn't in the best interests of anyone but the Democratic party.

They had a weird flow to them ... I think the writer has to get some better flow to his comedy the one he is choosing does not really work for the subject matter.

I thought it was just me. I usually laugh at any "good" joke and he wasn't even getting a chuckle out of me.

I am saying that a bunch of children of the Sixties, as well as the wannabees that read and post here, are blowing every little insult out of proportion. They've figured out that they can play the 'patriotism' card and get sympathy, so they will milk it for all it's worth. The only people calling anyone anti-American because of their intense hatred of the President and his policies are the Democrats, themselves.


lol! what planet are you on?

Good God, what is this, fucking kindergarten? Geez!
It most certainly has that feel, doesn't it?
I thought it was just me. I usually laugh at any "good" joke and he wasn't even getting a chuckle out of me.

Besides, as EO said himself, you weren't supposed to get it unless you "know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts."

So it's kinda like me saying you have the third largest wallet I've ever seen. Someone on this board would rofl at that, but I wouldn't expect you to do so. ;)

So it's kinda like me saying you have the third largest wallet I've ever seen. Someone on this board would rofl at that, but I wouldn't expect you to do so. ;)

XD, Who's second?

It most certainly has that feel, doesn't it?


Besides, as EO said himself, you weren't supposed to get it unless you "know the two characters in question and their background, which would mean you've read about the past year's worth of posts."

So it's kinda like me saying you have the third largest wallet I've ever seen. Someone on this board would rofl at that, but I wouldn't expect you to do so. ;)

I guess DK likes getting :confused: looks when offering those as a counter argument.

So you are arguing that the solders were being petty dicks rather then being considerate and allowing the reporters and Kerry to have space for their interview?

What an odd argument.

No, he was a fucking dick and they were giving him payback.

Unit commanders went out of their way to have their units "busy" when Kerry was there.

XD, Who's second?

I ain't tellin' - I've got to have some secrets don't I? ;)

No, he was a fucking dick and they were giving him payback.

Unit commanders went out of their way to have their units "busy" when Kerry was there.

Like I said petty ...

Specially if those commanders did as you say, not only being dicks but making busy work for their units out of spite

Again funny argument if true, makes them seem like pricks to me

Difference is, Tom Tomorrow is funny because he's accurate, while Chris Muir is neither.
Not particularly accurate, in the sense that everyone is running with the same strategy (one person attacks, cronies appear and second said attack mindlessly, "hilarity" insues) for years.
As usual, Tom Tommorrow fails to rise above the level of one 7th grader accusing the other of masturbating.

Like I said petty ...

Specially if those commanders did as you say, not only being dicks but making busy work for their units out of spite

Again funny argument if true, makes them seem like pricks to me

Like I'm sure you would invite Bill O'Reilly to Thanksgiving dinner...

or would you be "petty"?

Generalites usually kill dogs? I don't get it :confused:

Not only was it not funny but it made so little sense I am not even positive it is in English, despite the English words.

...so those unfunny comic strips DK posted are what passes for knee-slapping humour on the other side of the political divide?

No wonder then that so many conservatives are witless to the point of being contemptible.

Like I'm sure you would invite Bill O'Reilly to Thanksgiving dinner...

or would you be "petty"?

I would be fine sitting at his table yes ... I would not invite him into my home but if someone else invited him to dinner then sure.

Knowing my parents he would be invited if possible, and I would still go there and eat with him

I would probably try to avoid political conversation but that is something else entirely (try to avoid it at the table with anyone)

No, we're talking about you inviting him. You wouldn't, so by your definition, you're petty.

It would be as though your parents asked you, "do you have the time to invite Bill O'Reilly to dinner this week?"

And you would say no.

If it makes you feel any better, DK - I wouldn't have Bill O'Reilly over for Thanksgiving. Or you, for that matter.

No, he was a fucking dick and they were giving him payback.

Unit commanders went out of their way to have their units "busy" when Kerry was there.

And is your proof of this of the same level as that of your interpretation of the photo you posted? Just wondering.

I would be fine sitting at his table yes ... I would not invite him into my home but if someone else invited him to dinner then sure.

Knowing my parents he would be invited if possible, and I would still go there and eat with him

I would probably try to avoid political conversation but that is something else entirely (try to avoid it at the table with anyone)

No, we're talking about you inviting him. You wouldn't, so by your definition, you're petty.

It would be as though your parents asked you, "do you have the time to invite Bill O'Reilly to dinner this week?"

And you would say no.

In response to the OP - I've often found myself wondering if Tom Tomorrow does indeed lurk among us here on General. That is, when I'm not chafing at the bit to find an appropriate thread to link his latest comic to.

And this is my favourite comic of his from the "pre-" Modern World era:

http://i83.photobucket.com/albums/j315/crashcow/NSG/nation1.jpg

And then, there's the 'truth'. Nazz, this is from your favorite, the DailyKos (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/1/20/175232/080/479?mode=alone;showrate=1#479)

Maybe TT isn't so far off, after all.

It's bullshit things like this that makes me not wanted to be ascociated witht the word liberal, despite technically being one.

...so those unfunny comic strips DK posted are what passes for knee-slapping humour on the other side of the political divide?

No wonder then that so many conservatives are witless to the point of being contemptible.

They are basicly exactly the same, as immature as each other. One is:

ZOMGS Kerry said diss but he didn't mean ittt !!!1111one

and the other is this

ZOMGS Kerry said diss but he did mean ittttt!!!!!11111one

granted Nazz's comic is better on the humour side in this case, but generally they are the same.

No, we're talking about you inviting him. You wouldn't, so by your definition, you're petty.

It would be as though your parents asked you, "do you have the time to invite Bill O'Reilly to dinner this week?"

And you would say no.

They did not have to invite him anywhere he was already there, its not like THEY invited him into their mess hall he was invited by the higher ups (the "parents") all they had to do was sit with him ... something that I would do unless I had something more pressing

And then, there's the 'truth'. Nazz, this is from your favorite, the DailyKos (http://www.dailykos.com/comments/2006/1/20/175232/080/479?mode=alone;showrate=1#479)

Maybe TT isn't so far off, after all.
Oh, you don't want to get into a discussion of which side has the most loony commenters at blogs. That's a quote from a diary that had over 1,200 comments, where some of the comments had upwards of 50 recommendations, and that one got 3. Hardly the kind of comment you want to base an argument of widespread agreement on. Not to mention that the diary it replied to is more than a year old. Just which right-wing site did you pull that from, Myrmidonisia? Hell, I'd be willing to bet that there's something just as inflammatory there today, if you're willing to root around on a site that gets over 400K visits a day.

To bring discussion back to something raised in one of Eve's comics for a moment: why is it that Kerry voting for the war back in 2003(or was it 2002? I can't remember) and now being against it is hypocritical? It's not, and here's why:

Remember the intel? The intelligence that said there were definite links between Saddam and Al Queda, the intel that said there were plenty of weapons of mass destruction in Iraq, that Saddam was a definite threat that had to be eliminated? Guess what? That same intelligence was given to all 100 Senators and 435 Representatives of Congress back before they voted. They were voting based on that information that they knew at the time. We now know the intelligence to have been falsified--or at least messed with--and that all of the "facts" stated were incorrect. Now that Kerry has this NEW INFORMATION, he is against the war. It's called changing your opinion based on new facts, something the President doesn't understand. Think about it. Let's say you had a business oportunity that required you to invest in a certain type of stock. But later, before you finally invest, you find out that the stock in question is going to do poorly. Do you continue to invest anyway? No, you change your mind based on new information. Understand now?

Generalites usually kill dogs? I don't get it :confused:

I know that dogs don't wake me up in the morning, even when I'm sleeping in the same house as them, they wake everyone else up, but dorm life has turned me into someone who could sleep through the zombie apocalypse, wake up and not realize what happened until I arrived in class, to find none of my fellow students in attendance, and wandering out into the streets whistling and cheering that my prof had cancelled class for the day, wandering over to Page Hall to find several of the (seemingly vampiric who never leave the building) staff members who reside there all night long in shock and terror at the horrors that they had witnessed throughout the night, at which point I'd wander over to the pistol club, acquire a gun and some ammunition, then go to the liquor store and seize a monopoly on the only currency that will be worth a damn in the post zombie-apocalypse world: Rum, Gin, Whiskey and Tequila. *whew*

And the best one...
If that's the best one, then I must thank you for saving me time from reading any more of those dire ill-informed feeble attempts at humour.

ironically for a right-wing cartoon, I can't help but notice he's ripped off the Doonesbury format of delivering the punchline via an off-screen voice in the last panel.

To bring discussion back to something raised in one of Eve's comics for a moment: why is it that Kerry voting for the war back in 2003(or was it 2002? I can't remember) and now being against it is hypocritical? It's not, and here's why:

snip

What you said. While we on about it, his much derided 'vote for then against' comment was due to him not liking the huge amount of non-war related riders inserted between votes by GOP. Hence he supported the initial bill but not the bloated pork barrel the final bill became.

Of course, logic, rational discourse and reason have never been strong points in the hackneyed mudslinging that has become national media.

What you said. While we on about it, his much derided 'vote for then against' comment was due to him not liking the huge amount of non-war related riders inserted between votes by GOP. Hence he supported the initial bill but not the bloated pork barrel the final bill became.

Of course, logic, rational discourse and reason have never been strong points in the hackneyed mudslinging that has become national media.
Well, it gets them money, so why should they care about accuracy or decency?

Do the news networks in Hong Kong do the same? Or do you guys have all nationalized Chinese news since 1999? (Or was it 1997 that the British gave Hong Kong back to China...I can never remember.)

Well, it gets them money, so why should they care about accuracy or decency?

Do the news networks in Hong Kong do the same? Or do you guys have all nationalized Chinese news since 1999? (Or was it 1997 that the British gave Hong Kong back to China...I can never remember.)
1997. 1999 was when Macau was handed back.

tbh, I can't comment on the news media here. I get my sattelite feed from a Philipines network, which has CNN and BBCnews on it (used to have FOX, but fortunately not any more). I haven't an antenna, so can't get the local TV stations.
The one English daily paper (South China Morning Post) is ok. Carries lots of stuff from Reuter, BBC, CSM, Washington Post etc etc. The local news is pretty straight forward. As far as I can see, there's no meddling from the Mainland about editorial content.

My lack of Cantonese-speaking/reading ability certainly limits my knowledge of what goes on in the local papers here. But from what I have seen, they're more sensationalistic than indepth reporting.
example: Front page on all the local rags a couple of weeks ago was pics of a local celebrity dress ripping exposing her g-string.
The rest seems filled with people complaining about being bullied by local govt and/or business and graphic pictures and descriptions of the latest messy suicide (they'll show a building a leaper plunged off, along with drawing inserted showing their exact trajectory and landing. Sometimes even the aftermath picture is published).


Mainland Chinese media is another matter entirely...

Mmm, arguing over someone who doesnt matter anymore. Sounds like a nice waste of time.

Jeez I try to turn the discussion in a positive direction (Zombies and coworkers) and you all just ignore me I know when I'm not loved I'll go curl into a fetal position as my body is wracked with violent sobs.

Mmm, arguing over someone who doesnt matter anymore. Sounds like a nice waste of time.

:confused:

Care to elucidate?

:confused:

Care to elucidate?

No one aside from the neocons gives a shit about Kerry.

:confused:

Care to elucidate?

I was going to ask, but didn't feel like being the first one to.

The rest seems filled with people complaining about being bullied by local govt and/or business and graphic pictures and descriptions of the latest messy suicide (they'll show a building a leaper plunged off, along with drawing inserted showing their exact trajectory and landing. Sometimes even the aftermath picture is published).

I'm guessing Hong Kong is a depressing place? Is it just poor people leaping left and right or are the financially well-off also joining in the not-so-fun?

Jeez I try to turn the discussion in a positive direction (Zombies and coworkers) and you all just ignore me I know when I'm not loved I'll go curl into a fetal position as my body is wracked with violent sobs.

To be honest, I just got done playing Dead Rising. I'd really rather not think about zmobies, right now. TYVM.

Mmm, arguing over someone who doesnt matter anymore. Sounds like a nice waste of time.
Who are you talking about here: Kerry or Eve?

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:confused:

Care to elucidate?

I was going to ask, but didn't feel like being the first one to.

Does Kerry matter? No.

Does what he says matter? No.

Difference is, Tom Tomorrow is funny because he's accurate, while Chris Muir is neither.

I don't even get the first of those two. It's like it was written with Magnetic Poetry.

Does what he says matter? No.
It matters when it can be used as a weapon against ones political opponents.

Ah, I'd first thought your observation was made with regards to Mr. Tomorrow.

I'm guessing Hong Kong is a depressing place? Is it just poor people leaping left and right or are the financially well-off also joining in the not-so-fun?
It can be very depressing and stressful here. Suicide is the leading cause of death for teenagers.
Jumping off tall things is one of the most common ways to do it (HK having an abundance of tall things, it's surprisingly easy to find one tall enough to do the job). I saw two potential leapers the first 6 months I was here (I didn't hang round like the rest of the crowd to see if they did it so can't tell you whether the police talked them down). I'm now on an island with no buildings over 3 stories so naturally haven't seen any leapers lately.
The other common way is sealing your flat and lighting charcoal. So common they now only sell limited supplies. One has to stock up if one wishes to top oneself that way.

Mostly poor people - especially old, as the social welfare here ain't much. Young do it due to stress from their studies. Some have afterhours tuition in cram centres from 5 right up to 9, even 10pm every weekday, and all day Saturday. Coupled with 2-3 hours homework each night, and continual reminders that bad marks bars you from University...well, it doesn't take a genius to realise what's going to happen there.

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*hugs*
Its okay. Really.

*hugs*
Its okay. Really.

*Looks up with really big, tear filled eyes*

It is?

*wipes tears from eyes*

Oh, honestly. I half-expect you two to start cybering any minute.


Heh.

In a Tom Tomorrow thread, many things are possible. Although that one's pretty doubtful.

I don't even get the first of those two. It's like it was written with Magnetic Poetry.

That's what happens when you don't speak Conservative.

I'm glad I'm not the only one.

Oh, honestly. I half-expect you two to start cybering any minute.


Heh.

Don't give him any ideas, damnit!

It can be very depressing and stressful here. Suicide is the leading cause of death for teenagers.
Jumping off tall things is one of the most common ways to do it (HK having an abundance of tall things, it's surprisingly easy to find one tall enough to do the job). I saw two potential leapers the first 6 months I was here (I didn't hang round like the rest of the crowd to see if they did it so can't tell you whether the police talked them down). I'm now on an island with no buildings over 3 stories so naturally haven't seen any leapers lately.
The other common way is sealing your flat and lighting charcoal. So common they now only sell limited supplies. One has to stock up if one wishes to top oneself that way.

Mostly poor people - especially old, as the social welfare here ain't much. Young do it due to stress from their studies. Some have afterhours tuition in cram centres from 5 right up to 9, even 10pm every weekday, and all day Saturday. Coupled with 2-3 hours homework each night, and continual reminders that bad marks bars you from University...well, it doesn't take a genius to realise what's going to happen there.
And people wonder why social welfare is a good idea...just point out situations like this in Hong Kong, or in Singapore, or in any other Asian country where it leans towards pure capitalism. It's not fun.

Which brings me to my next question: why do you live there if it's like that? If it were me I'd get out of there regardless of the reason. I'm over emotional as it is: the last thing I'd need is a lot of people commiting suicide all around me.

*Looks up with really big, tear filled eyes*

It is?

*wipes tears from eyes*

Oh, honestly. I half-expect you two to start cybering any minute.


Heh.

Yes. I promise.

*gets tissue*

Someday never comes, but someday people will learn that serious things need to be funnified sometimes.

Thanks.

*rubs eyes, blows nose loudly and obnoxiously*

*Looks up with really big, tear filled eyes*

It is?

*wipes tears from eyes*

Yes. I promise.

*gets tissue*

Someday never comes, but someday people will learn that serious things need to be funnified sometimes.

Because this sure sounds familiar:

http://www.salon.com/comics/tomo/2007/03/05/tomo/story.jpg

Edit: Except, of course, there are a lot more penguins around here, so the net effect isn't quite the same. ;)

There were so many instances here where I was completly misunderstood and my words were twisted and people said they'd never listen to me. I pity that poor penguin. :mad:

There were so many instances here where I was completly misunderstood and my words were twisted and people said they'd never listen to me. I pity that poor penguin. :mad:
So, wait, people never listen to you because you're always being misunderstood? That is, someone misunderstands you and refuses to listen to you because of that misunderstanding?

Just trying to resolve the ambiguous meaning of that sentence.

:p :D

Isn't it cute how the right wing has to fight reality's comedic liberal bias at every opportunity?

First, Michael Moore organizes the Traverse City Film Festival for movies in general, but some of the Bushevik locals get anally defensive and organize "counter-festivals" that are all but blantly hard-right and jingoistic in theme.

Red-staters challenge Michael Moore film fest (http://www.worldnetdaily.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45133)

Then, after the continuous hit that is The Daily Show, FOXNews comes out with a lame-ass attempt at a counterattack that nobody remembers the name of, much less talks about. Whoops. :D

Fox News Fails To One-Up ‘Daily Show’ (http://www.dailycal.org/sharticle.php?id=23115)

And now, Deep Kimchi's posting of some lameass right-wing webtoon to protest the keen observational humor of Tom Tomorrow and This Modern World.

Keep trying to counter comedy, Busheviks. It's more material for the rest of the world.

And now, Deep Kimchi's posting of some lameass right-wing webtoon to protest the keen observational humor of Tom Tomorrow and This Modern World.

I wouldn't say the whole thing is lame-ass, really. It's got a bit of funny, and you might chuckle if that can override the feeling you're being mocked.

This Modern World... it's eerily accurate. I remember recalling this article (http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=23127) after seeing this cartoon:
http://img63.imageshack.us/img63/9395/rightwingmoviereviewmh3.jpg
Particularly these words:
Today, they won't dare show him fighting contemporary Nazis--Islamofascists. Lex Luthor working with Al-Qaeda terrorists, with both evil forces getting defeated--that would have been dynamic and exciting, a great plot.