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We are just a week away from the start on March 13.

Schedule and stuff. Times are in IST (Indian Standard Time or rather Indian Stretchable Time as it is called due to the utter lack of any regard for punctuality in India).

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Format and Rules

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/01rules.htm
Format and regulations of the cricket World Cup, starting in the West Indies on March 13.

1st round: The ninth edition of the World Cup will be contested by 16 teams, the most ever. In the first round they are divided into four groups of four teams and play each other once. The top two from each group qualify for the super eight.

Super eight: The winners and runners-up from the four groups will play each of the other teams except the team which advanced from their own group. The top four qualify for the semi-finals.

Semi-finals and final: The second and third place finishers will contest the first semi-final while the teams placed first and fourth will meet in the second. The winners meet in the final in Barbados on April 28.

Points: Two for a win, one for a tie or a game without result in the preliminary and super eight stages. Teams qualifying for the Super eight carry forward only the points gained in the group stage against the other qualifier.

Key rules:

If the scores are equal, the match is tied regardless of the number of wickets that have fallen.

Each match comprises two sessions of 3-1/2 hours each with a 45-minute interval.

If the start is delayed or play is suspended, the match can be extended by a maximum 30 minutes.

Key innovations:

Powerplay: Fielding restrictions when only two fielders are allowed outside the 30-metre circle surrounding the wicket withat least two in catching positions will be applied in three blocks totaling 20 overs.

The first powerplay of 10 overs automatically comes into force at the start of an innings. The fielding captain must then nominate two five-over spells when restrictions will apply.

Bowl-out: Cricket's equivalent of soccer's penalty shoot-out if the semi-finals or final end in a tie. Bowlers from opposing teams take turns to bowl at a set of three stumps. The team with the most hits after five deliveries each is the winner.

So, who is your favorite?

My favorite for the semis are Aus, SA, Ind. The fourth will be a surprise.

Aus looked a firm favorite to me until the thrashing they got in the hands of the Poms and Kiwis. Not a good sign. McGrath looks jaded and uninspiring, he is getting old, although one cannot rule out the effort the cup can bring out of seemingly old and jaded players. Although Aus is a favorite for the cup, I don't really like the idea of them winning it though. To be frank, I don't like the attitude and arrogance of many Aus players (nothing against the country and its people).

India looks very good. On paper that is. They always look good on paper, but they seldom perform to their potential. I am counting on the big three Sachin, Dravid and Ganguly putting in their best, since this is going to be their last world cup and none of them have been a part of a world cup winning team. Plus the performance of this team some months ago in Windies was actually good, when they won the test series there. The Windies tracks are not as fast as they used to be and the Indians are very good on flat tracks.

SA is always a favorite owing to the sheer talent and commitment they bring to the field. Pollock looks as solid as ever. The batting may lack the flair of other teams, but it is good and the allrounders (Kallis etc) give good depth. But they have to get rid of the chokers tag.

Pakistan looks in disarray owing to internal politics and the drug use fiasco. Shoab Akthar and Mohd Asif are out of the first round atleast on drug bans. Razzaq - a vital allrounder is also out. Their batting revolves around Inzi and Mohd Yusuf who are still good. Very unpredictable - they may spring a few surprises, but I don't think they can be consistent enough to be successful.

Sri Lanka - They have fallen from the mighty heights of 1995 when Kalu and Jayasurya were nightmares to any bowling. The old magic is gone and the team needs a lot of inspiration to get it going. The youngsters (Mahela Jayawardana etc) who replaced stalwarts Aravinda, Ranatunga etc have failed to bring the team successes. Murali will still be a threat.

England - have not followed the team to comment anything. I don't even recognise many new players. Kieven Pietersen is the only name I can remember. Can somebody do a write up?

Kiwis - They could be the dark horse. Is Shane Bond fit and playing? He is a delight to watch. Nathan Astle will be as swashbuckling as ever. Fleming is still going good, I guess. What effect will the tropical weather of Windies have on the Kiwis, I dunno.

Windies - Oh yeah the hosts. They give me a heartburn every time I see them labor in the field. Their pace battery has steadily degraded from the likes of Garner, Marshall, Holding to the likes of Ambrose and Walsh and now to the depths of Dillon and whazziznames....very sad. The batting has potential but they lack the consistency. Lara has enormous responsibility and I think this is his last world cup too, but as exceptional as Lara is, how much can one man do? Marlon Samuels, Wavell Hinds, Sarwan etc should step up and take some load on themselves.

Did I miss somebody?

Oh yeah, Zimbabwe....hmm I don't think they will make any impact other than maybe an odd upset. The rest of the fillers - Bangladesh, Canada, Holland, Scotland, Bermuda, Kenya and Ireland are there just so that the big teams can beat up on them and make records. Other than Kenya, who impressed me last time, I don't think any of them will make any impact other than being the whipping boys.

Btw, here's a funny nike cricket ad

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mpvuz8gg79Q

Let the games begin. :p

*chirp*

Knowing nothing about cricket, I confidently predict an Ireland victory.

England's one day team is doing quite well atm (strange how cyclical that is). I fully expect to see them in the Super Eight, and maybe the semis, but unless they're on fire, I don't expect they will get passed that.

I also think Australia need to pull something major out if they want to win this.

Cricket World Cup Schedule
http://www.travour.com/icc-cricket-world-cup-2007-west-indies/cricket-world-cup-2007-match-schedule/index.html

In terms of England. Vaughan is an injury worry and often out of form (18 against Bermuda today) but a must as captain since there is no one else capable of the job. There is a lack of explosiveness at the top of the order. Very strong middle order with Pieterson, Collingwood, and Flintoff being able to combine well to score a decent number of runs. Panesar is an improving spinner but the pace attack is a bit dodgy and untested.

Australia are missing Brett Lee for the whole tournament and one or two others. So I don't think they can.

Oddly enough I'm backing the W Indies as a dark horse to take it for a couple of reasons.

Firstly and most importantly. They know the conditions and how to play them. Most noticeable is also the fact that they're not going to be helpful to pace bowlers, which'll also obscure their weakness somewhat. Plus with Lara's swansong and as host nation could draw big performances out of Gayle and Bravo and Lara of course.

I think Astle has retired.

If you go to the cricket section of the BBC sport website they've done detailed write-ups on each team.

wtf...Nadkor may be right after all..

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/6420925.stm
World Cup minnows Ireland had South Africa in trouble before the one-day game's top-ranked side recovered to hit 192 in the warm-up game in Trinidad.

Trent Johnston and Dave Langford-Smith took three wickets each to reduce South Africa to 66-7 :eek: and Mark Boucher was then dismissed with the score on 91.

However, Andrew Hall's unbeaten 67 and Robin Peterson's 29 pushed the score to 192 all out from their 50 overs.

Skipper Johnston had figures of 4-38 while Andre Botha claimed two wickets.

On a pitch that offered no real threat to the batsmen, South Africa captain Graeme Smith won the toss and opted to bat.

But disciplined bowling from Ireland, with Langford-Smith and Johnston always a threat, stunned the South Africans before their late recovery.

Johnston finished with 4-38 and Langford-Smith took 3-31 against the second favourites for the tournament, and the team officially ranked number one in the world.

Other warm up matches...no surprises there..

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/06wind.htm
Jamaican batsman Marlon Samuels struck a century and West Indies showed confident pre-World Cup form with a victory in their warm-up game against Kenya on Monday.

Brian Lara's side reached a total of 268 for four but non-Test playing Kenya, coached by former West Indies international Roger Harper will be pleased with their response as they ended 21 runs short at 247 for seven.

Opening batsman Chris Gayle laid the foundations for a solid West Indies total, the left-hander striking a fifty off 66 balls, in the inaugural game at the new Trelawny stadium, before he was bowled by Hiren Varaiya for 75.

There was a small crowd at the 10,000 capacity venue, which will host the opening ceremony on March 11 but the stay-away fans missed some fine stroke-playing from local boy Samuels who hit nine fours and two sixes in his 91-ball century.

England lookin good..

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/06eng.htm
Jon Lewis took three wickets to help England skittle out Bermuda for 45 to win by 241 runs in their first World Cup warm-up match on Monday.

England used the 13-player-a-side format to employ all five of their pace bowlers and spinner Monty Panesar but their workout only lasted 22.2 overs because of the minor cricket nation's abject batting.

Lewis and James Anderson at least proved their fitness after picking up ankle and back injuries respectively during England's victorious tri-series campaign in Australia.

Kiwis - . Nathan Astle will be as swashbuckling as ever.


He retired last month.

I'd say Australia or India.

Australia were unbackable favourites a month ago, but after being betean by England in the tri-series in Aus, then being thrashed by the Kiwis in NZ, I'm not so sure. If Aus fire up again, they'll be pretty much unbeatable. If they continue their recent form, they'll be lucky to make the semi-finals.

India seem to be coming into form just at the right time. This WC will be the swansong of some key Indian players (Tendulkar, Dravid, Ganguly, Kumble), so that may just give them that extra motiviation required.

NZ are definitely the dark horse. They have some really good players, their side is very well balanced & they're gutsy. On their day they can beat anyone & I wouldn't be at all surprised to see them figuring strongly in the finals.

He retired last month.

Taylors looking pretty good though, and McMillan has stopped sucking.

I'd go with the Aussies as favourites; despite everyone writing them off recently, they're still the best team in the world. If not them, then I think it will be India.

We are just a week away from the start on March 13.
Kiwis - They could be the dark horse. Is Shane Bond fit and playing? He is a delight to watch. Nathan Astle will be as swashbuckling as ever. Fleming is still going good, I guess. What effect will the tropical weather of Windies have on the Kiwis, I dunno.
LOL, Nathan Astle retired. :P

Anyways i was thinking...
Sri Lanka, New Zealand, West Indies and India to be not necasarily the teams with the best chances of winning it due to potential opposition at crucial times but those teams that i think are in some sort of form or will be in it plus i hate those South Africans.
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If Australia come into any sort of form, they'll be hard to beat.

I'm actually liking New Zealand, though. They've really impressed me with their playing the past couple of months, and it'd be good to finally see them get something significant in their cabinet. It's a country that has always had potential that hasn't been realised.

It'd be wonderful to see them come up and win it, if only for the fact that it'd without doubt kickstart another trans-Tasman rivalry.

I think England (yes, I know,, boo me all you want, fellow Australians, but you have to admit, they took it to us in the Tri-series finals) might be a chance as well, particularly if their top players are on song.

It'll be interesting to watch, at least, that's for sure.

Knowing nothing about cricket, I confidently predict an Ireland victory.

I second this prediction.

England. Of course.

LOL, Nathan Astle retired. :P

My bad. :p He was not that old, was he?

I second this prediction.

Unfortunately, the best player that Ireland has produced to date is in the England squad. :p

I'll take England...oh shit I didn't see West Indies :(

Never even seen a cricket match...lol

Cricket, the game where a 19 stone policeman who lives over a curry house can defeat one of the best batsmen in the world (Bermuda vs England)

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/07prem.htm

India won by 192 runs against Netherlands in their 'warm up' match.

My bad. :p He was not that old, was he?
5 3 lbw 1 W V'con Tri 2 v Ind in Zim 2005/06 at Bulawayo [2273]
61 3 caught wk 1 W V'con Tri 4 v Zim in Zim 2005/06 at Harare [2276]
11 2 caught wk 1 L V'con Tri 5 v Ind in Zim 2005/06 at Harare [2278]
115* 2 not out 2 W V'con Tri F v Ind in Zim 2005/06 at Harare [2281]
1 2 caught wk 1 L 1st ODI v SA in SA 2005/06 at Bloemfontein [2285]
3 2 caught 2 L 2nd ODI v SA in SA 2005/06 at Cape Town (d/n) [2288]
11 2 caught 1 L 3rd ODI v SA in SA 2005/06 at Port Elizabeth [2289]
TDNB - - - N 4th ODI v SA in SA 2005/06 at Durban (d/n) [2292]
37 2 caught 1 L 5th ODI v SA in SA 2005/06 at Centurion [2293]
14 2 caught 2 L CH Trophy 1 v Aus in NZ 2005/06 at Auckland (d/n) [2301]
22 2 caught 2 L CH Trophy 2 v Aus in NZ 2005/06 at Wellington (d/n) [2302]
14 3 caught 2 W CH Trophy 3 v Aus in NZ 2005/06 at Christchurch (d/n) [2303]
2 3 lbw 2 W 1st ODI v SL in NZ 2005/06 at Queenstown [2309]
90* 3 not out 2 W 2nd ODI v SL in NZ 2005/06 at Christchurch [2310]
47 3 caught 2 L 4th ODI v SL in NZ 2005/06 at Napier [2312]
90 2 caught 1 W 1st ODI v WI in NZ 2005/06 at Wellington (d/n) [2332]
2 3 caught 2 W 2nd ODI v WI in NZ 2005/06 at Queenstown [2335]
118* 3 not out 1 W 3rd ODI v WI in NZ 2005/06 at Christchurch (d/n) [2337]
81 3 caught 1 W 4th ODI v WI in NZ 2005/06 at Napier [2342]
4 3 caught wk 1 L 5th ODI v WI in NZ 2005/06 at Auckland (d/n) [2346]
14 3 bowled 1 W ICC CT 8 v SA in Ind 2006/07 at Mumbai (BS) (d/n) [2430]
42 3 caught 1 L ICC CT 11 v SL in Ind 2006/07 at Mumbai (BS) (d/n) [2433]
15 3 caught 1 W ICC CT 14 v Pak in Ind 2006/07 at Mohali (d/n) [2436]
0 3 bowled 2 L ICC CT SF v Aus in Ind 2006/07 at Mohali (d/n) [2441]
83 2 run out 1 L 1st ODI v SL in NZ 2006/07 at Napier [2468]
0 2 bowled 2 W 3rd ODI v SL in NZ 2006/07 at Christchurch [2470]
TDNB - - - N 5th ODI v SL in NZ 2006/07 at Hamilton (d/n) [2472]
0 2 caught wk 2 L CB Series 2 v Aus in Aus 2006/07 at Hobart [2474]
45 2 bowled 1 L CB Series 3 v Eng in Aus 2006/07 at Hobart [2475]
0 2 caught wk 1 L CB Series 5 v Aus in Aus 2006/07 at Sydney (d/n) [2479]
1 2 caught 1 W CB Series 6 v Eng in Aus 2006/07 at Adelaide (d/n) [2482]

There are some stats from his last two 'seasons'.
They might tell a story.
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In other news...
Dun dun dun... (http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/07bangla.htm)
Though the BAngas did beat OZ 2 times(?) less than 2 year ago...

There are some stats from his last two 'seasons'.
They might tell a story.

Lol. Was he dropped before he retired? I dunno why, but I always liked him.


In other news...
Dun dun dun... (http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/07bangla.htm)
Though the BAngas did beat OZ 2 times(?) less than 2 year ago...

heh...I can't believe it. Did NZ field their regular team ?

Bit of an upset for the Kiwis, beaten by Bangladesh in a warmup match.

http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/wc2007/engine/match/247448.html


Edit: Beaten to it. That's pretty much exactly the team they fielded, that thrashed Aus in the just played Chappel-Hadlee series!

Lol. Was he dropped before he retired? I dunno why, but I always liked him.

heh...I can't believe it. Did NZ field their regular team ?

No and no-ish. It was a 13 a side (11 bat/field game) so they had everyone except Mark Gillespie (injured) and tuffey to use. That also meant that it wasn't an official ODI so unlike India and oz we haven't 'officially' lost to Bangladesh yet :D

No and no-ish. It was a 13 a side (11 bat/field game) so they had everyone except Mark Gillespie (injured) and tuffey to use. That also meant that it wasn't an official ODI so unlike India and oz we haven't 'officially' lost to Bangladesh yet :D
Yay!
Lol. Was he dropped before he retired? I dunno why, but I always liked him.



heh...I can't believe it. Did NZ field their regular team ?
Nah he wasn't, he just lost his motivation, mainly due to too many low scores i presume, i haven't read the article in the Womens Day so i don't really know...
892 runs from 29 innings and 3 NO he had an average of 34.3(Assuming i didn't miscalculate somewhere...)

But in 06/07 season alone...
He had 200 runs in 10 innings an average of 20 with 4 ducks and a one, so yeah.

Going with Australia, but it was more of a wish than anything else. After the tri-series finals and the NZ series if I was betting I'd be going South Africa.

Cricket, the game where a 19 stone policeman who lives over a curry house can defeat one of the best batsmen in the world (Bermuda vs England)

http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/42649000/jpg/_42649027_leverock270.jpg

That Bermudan was in the Friday Sports pull out and then he was a suprstar.
I think i saw him play in the Carribean 20/20 final which was on tv 4 or so months ago...
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http://www.dangermouse.net/cricket/fielding.html

Windies shot out for 85. :eek:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport2/hi/cricket/6434417.stm
In the final warm-up game for both sides, the tournament hosts were bowled out for 85 in just 25.5 overs.

Only skipper Brian Lara (22) and two other batsmen made double figures as India's pacemen ran riot.

Munaf Patel (4-10) and Irfan Pathan (3-25) did most of the damage after Ajit Agarkar and Zaheer Khan had removed the West Indies openers.

In other warm up matches

Bangladesh beat Scotland by 7 wickets

Zimbabwe beat Bermuda by 6 wickets

and the most important match of all

Ireland beat Canada by 7 wickets :p

Pakistan ftw!

Pakistan ftw!

But Pakistan has a hindu player in their team. You should support Bangladesh. They are pure momins with no kufrs in their team. ;)

In other news

Kiwis comeback and beat the Lankans.

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/10lanka.htm
New Zealand restored their World Cup morale after Tuesday's surprise defeat by Bangladesh when they beat a powerful Sri Lanka side by 18 runs in Barbados on Friday.

Despite a glittering century from Sri Lankan opener Upul Tharanga, the Black Caps clinched victory in the teams' final warm-up match in the penultimate over at the 3Ws Oval just outside Bridgetown.

and Aussies beat Poms.

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/10aus.htm
Four wickets from Shaun Tait and a superb 72 from Adam Gilchrist helped Australia snap their losing run against England with an easy five-wicket win in their final World Cup warm-up in St Vincent on Friday.

Today is the opening ceremony. Unfortunately, I won't be able to watch it.:( If anybody can record it and upload in youtube or elsewhere, it would be great :)

God I hope India win it.

Given that neither England, nor Pakistan, stand a chance, and I abhor "teamworky" South Africa, and the criminally australian Australia, I'm behind India.

India, FTMFW.

I'm backing Sri Lanka to make it at the very least to the semi-finals. They should comfortably make the Super 8 (I'd say finishing top of their group). I can't honestly see any of Australia, Sri Lanka, New Zealand, Pakistan, South Africa, Windies, England or India not making the second stage, and from there Sri Lanka should be able to make the top four.

And obviously I'll be supporting England (in hope rather than expectation) in all of their matches.

Poor Canada. Nobody backing it. I don't think even our resident canucks know that their country is playing for the cup. Sorta like many USians not knowing that their team was playing the football (yeah, the real football) world cup.

I'm impressed by the level of support for England! :p

I'm impressed by the level of support for England! :p

I am predicting a thrashing for England. They haven't done well in any cups or major tournaments since......the 1991 world cup? :p

btw, did anybody watch the ceremony? how was it?

I have a bit more confidence in the Aussies now after the match against England. Go Tait.

Canada has a higher chance of winning than Cricket being a stupid game.

I'm impressed by the level of support for England! :p

I voted for them even though I don't think they'll win. Call it patriotic optimism.

I voted for them even though I don't think they'll win. Call it patriotic optimism.

Two words:

Five nil. :p

Two words:

Five nil. :p

Three words:

Commonwealth Bank Series.

In cricket, a protective cup is called a box. Which is a slang word for vagina.

:)

Okay, I'm done. *nod*

In cricket, a protective cup is called a box. Which is a slang word for vagina.

:)

Okay, I'm done. *nod*

Hmmm, I'd never made that connection before.

Hmmm, I'd never made that connection before.

You have to think outside the box. :D

You have to think outside the box. :D

Indeed. :D

In cricket, a protective cup is called a box. Which is a slang word for vagina.


I thought it is called "guard" - bcos it...well...guards

Windies have an easy win against Pak in the cup opener :cool:

http://specials.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/13slide1.htm
The West Indies beat Pakistan by 54 runs in the opening match of the 2007 World Cup in Jamaica on Tuesday. Dwayne Smith (3-36 and 32 runs) was named the man of the match.

http://im.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/13slide7.jpg

Well played Marlon Samuels.

Btw, WTH was Chanderpaul doing with his 19 off 63 ?:headbang:

Australia plays its first game tonight! :)

Australia plays its first game tonight! :)

Shall quite enjoy watching that powerhouse of international cricket (Scotland) beat the aussies....

Oh dear...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6445631.stm

So no one cares about Canada vs Kenya? Shame. Kenya to win, probably, considering they thrashed Canada about a month ago.

So no one cares about Canada vs Kenya? Shame. Kenya to win, probably, considering they thrashed Canada about a month ago.

Who?? :D

So no one cares about Canada vs Kenya? Shame. Kenya to win, probably, considering they thrashed Canada about a month ago.

Considering they're in New Zealand's pool I'm taking a passing interest. Kenya should take it, although while kenya are the better overall team, Canada have 2-3 good players and a bunch of scrubbers. If those players fire, they are a challenge for any of the other minnows.

Considering they're in New Zealand's pool I'm taking a passing interest. Kenya should take it, although while kenya are the better overall team, Canada have 2-3 good players and a bunch of scrubbers. If those players fire, they are a challenge for any of the other minnows.
Pretty much the only reason I care as well - it's England's group as well. Although I'll be following England, Ireland, Scotland and Sri Lanka, so I have an interest in all four groups...

Hopefully at least one of those teams will make the semis.

I'm impressed by the level of support for England! :p
It's this weird thing. No matter how bad England perform in Sport, the English supporters still have this insane idea that next time it will be better. I love them for it.
While on the other side, Aussies, while we win quite often in sport for a country of 20 Million, always panic and think we are going to collapse as soon as 1 thing goes wrong. Also on the occaisions that we'll lose, we'll always have an excuse. Blame injuries, the weather, bad umpiring, it was the wrong phase of the moon, whatever. We can't accept that we got beaten by a better team on the day.

The Aussies will win of course. ;)

It's this weird thing. No matter how bad England perform in Sport, the English supporters still have this insane idea that next time it will be better. I love them for it.
While on the other side, Aussies, while we win quite often in sport for a country of 20 Million, always panic and think we are going to collapse as soon as 1 thing goes wrong. Also on the occaisions that we'll lose, we'll always have an excuse. Blame injuries, the weather, bad umpiring, it was the wrong phase of the moon, whatever. We can't accept that we got beaten by a better team on the day.

The Aussies will win of course. ;)

Excellent post!

Of course I said that England would win that Aussie/NZ/Eng three way tournament...;)

Now, where's Scotland! They have a chance ... err, well, they are there.

Now, where's Scotland! They have a chance ... err, well, they are there.

They won the toss. Enjoy it.

They won the toss. Enjoy it.

I wonder if Australia will try to score 400? :D

Kenya vs Canada on too also - clash of the Titans! Sort of.

I love the Beeb..

1300 GMT: All aboard for the Group A opener in St Kitts, which is the smallest nation in the Americas in terms of area (101 sq miles) and population (42,696). That must make it about the size of Billericay. Click on the link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6260901.stm) to find out more about the place.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6446345.stm

This is the BBC live site...

LOL!!!

1328 GMT: Hayden and Gilchrist stroll to the middle like two mates padding down to the swimming pool from their beachside hut. They don't look overly-stressed. Haydos will be looking to give it some serious humpty dumpty here, of that there is no doubt.

Hoffmann to Hayden, FOUR, There is the first boundary. Bit of rubbish on the legs and Hayden clears the trashcan with a flick shot, past square-leg. Easy.

I like these people who write the updates! :)

Hoffmann to Hayden, FOUR, There is the first boundary. Bit of rubbish on the legs and Hayden clears the trashcan with a flick shot, past square-leg. Easy.

I like these people who write the updates! :)

Totally...!

5th over: Aus 23-0 Not very big this Warner Park ground, so the bowling wants to be Johnny on the Spot. It reminds me a bit of a cricket pitch near my ma and pa's house, the batsmen used to aim for Mercs, Beamers and other posh cars driving behind the bowler's arm. One from the over from Haydos.

LOL!

Australia vs Scotland ... Australian 50 in 8th over.

I think we can see where this is going.

Australia vs Scotland ... Australian 50 in 8th over.

I think we can see where this is going.

Yeah....

7th over: Aus 46-0
The crowd's not much cop in St Kitts. I'm not going to pretend it's party, party, party in the Warner Ground, it's got all the atmosphere of a junior school swimming gala. Haydos rips off his shirt and larrups Hoffmann over mid-wicket for the first maximum of the day. Very manly. Hoffmann hits back well, getting Hayden hopping with a decent in-swinging yorker. But Bully Boy has the last laugh, easing the last ball of the over through the covers for a dreamy four.

Not a surprise though.

Wow, Australia scored 334 and actually managed to defend it :p

Go Kenya! Easy win over Canada. Viva la Kenyan Cricket!

The great nation of Cricket is a stupid game.

Well played Aus, although I expected more runs from them...:cool:

I love the Beeb..

1300 GMT: All aboard for the Group A opener in St Kitts, which is the smallest nation in the Americas in terms of area (101 sq miles) and population (42,696). That must make it about the size of Billericay. Click on the link (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6260901.stm) to find out more about the place.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6446345.stm

This is the BBC live site...

Nothing wrong with Billericay, excepts its in essex

Nothing wrong with Billericay, excepts its in essex

Yeah....one of my aunts used to live there...

Used to fly in to Southend from Rotterdam then drive to Billericay. I think its probably quite different nowadays though.

Bermuda vs Sri Lanka today. I've got my Sri Lankan shirt on (a very fetching shade of purple) and I'll be glued to the BBC updates until the match is over. Come on Sri Lanka! :)

And Ireland.

I wonder if Australia will try to score 400? :D

Kenya vs Canada on too also - clash of the Titans! Sort of.
Look what i found...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439919

Look what i found...
http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showthread.php?t=439919

LOL

334 is measly! But so is 114.

Yay! Sri Lanka won (surprisingly(!)). :)

Second biggest margin of victory ever in the World Cup - 243 runs, behind Australia's 256 run win against Namibia in 2003.

And Ireland are making a game of it against Zimbabwe. 221-9, including 115* off 139 balls from Bray. So far in reply Zimbabwe have managed 157-5 off 35 overs. Looks like they'll make it (only just over 4 an over needed), but if Ireland can take a few more wickets in the next few overs, they're going to be worried.

A tie!

Go Ireland!

A tie!

Go Ireland!
As Cricinfo put it: "This is epic."

Needing 15 to win from five overs with four wickets to spare, Zimbabwe manage to tie the game on 221 all out, with the final wicket falling on the very last ball of the 50th over. Nice.

As Cricinfo put it: "This is epic."

Needing 15 to win from five overs with four wickets to spare, Zimbabwe manage to tie the game on 221 all out, with the final wicket falling on the very last ball of the 50th over. Nice.

What I want to know is does this mean that Ireland are good enough to be a Test side, or Zimbabwe are so bad that they shouldn't be a test side?

Actually, I don't want to know that at all, as the answer is pretty obvious. But I'm happy for Ireland anyway.

What I want to know is does this mean that Ireland are good enough to be a Test side, or Zimbabwe are so bad that they shouldn't be a test side?

Actually, I don't want to know that at all, as the answer is pretty obvious. But I'm happy for Ireland anyway.
Erm, seeing as the World Cup is one-day cricket, I don't think you can judge whether or not a side is good enough for Test Cricket from it.

After all - Sri Lanka are easily one of the best one day sides in the world, but they can't transfer that to Test cricket (apparently because Tests don't suit the Sri Lankan mentality).

Erm, seeing as the World Cup is one-day cricket, I don't think you can judge whether or not a side is good enough for Test Cricket from it.

After all - Sri Lanka are easily one of the best one day sides in the world, but they can't transfer that to Test cricket (apparently because Tests don't suit the Sri Lankan mentality).

But you need Test status in order to play the bigger nations at one day cricket outside of the World Cup. It's not really relevant if they're any good at it - look at Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

It would be nice to get some new teams playing regularly at the international level.

As Cricinfo put it: "This is epic."

Needing 15 to win from five overs with four wickets to spare, Zimbabwe manage to tie the game on 221 all out, with the final wicket falling on the very last ball of the 50th over. Nice.
LOL!!!

Didn't Ireland beat the Poms recently?
Or at least come close to beating them?

As Cricinfo put it: "This is epic."

Needing 15 to win from five overs with four wickets to spare, Zimbabwe manage to tie the game on 221 all out, with the final wicket falling on the very last ball of the 50th over. Nice.

I don't have cable, so no live games .. damn.
Go Ireland, Zimbabwe threw the win away.

That Bray fella was trained in Austalian apparently.

a tie?
I was always under the impresion that in cases of a tie at WC events, it went on wickets lost.
In this case Ireland had lost 9 wickets, Zimby all out.
So doesn't this mean Ireland wins, due to having had lost 1 less wicket?

a tie?
I was always under the impresion that in cases of a tie at WC events, it went on wickets lost.
In this case Ireland had lost 9 wickets, Zimby all out.
So doesn't this mean Ireland wins, due to having had lost 1 less wicket?

I thought it would go on wickets too, but apparently not. They're saying it's the third tie in WC history, so it's obviously happened before.

Anyone who says 'well, duh', or words to that effect, will be shot.

LOL!!!

Didn't Ireland beat the Poms recently?
Or at least come close to beating them?

They put up a good fight, but England won.

I thought it would go on wickets too, but apparently not. They're saying it's the third tie in WC history, so it's obviously happened before.



It happened to South Africa twice. In the semi in '99, and in '03 when they messed up thier duckworth-lewis calculations.

Bermuda vs Sri Lanka today. I've got my Sri Lankan shirt on (a very fetching shade of purple) and I'll be glued to the BBC updates until the match is over. Come on Sri Lanka! :)

And Ireland.

I thought Sri Lanka's colours were a sort of royal blue & yellow?

What I want to know is does this mean that Ireland are good enough to be a Test side, or Zimbabwe are so bad that they shouldn't be a test side?

Actually, I don't want to know that at all, as the answer is pretty obvious. But I'm happy for Ireland anyway.

Nope, Zim are just crap. They definitely do not deserve test status.

I am hoping that New Zealand gets the Cricket World Cup; in fact, this year is where the big events in sports that we do well in are occurring. I would be glad if we got the Cricket Cup, as well as the Rugby Cup, the America's Cup and the Netball Cup (whatever it is called).

I thought Sri Lanka's colours were a sort of royal blue & yellow?
It's a kinda purplish-blue and gold. It's a very...busy shirt. Lots of stuff on it.

It's a kinda purplish-blue and gold. It's a very...busy shirt. Lots of stuff on it.

Busy. :p

Nope, Zim are just crap. They definitely do not deserve test status.

I can't even recognise any of their players. Did Mugabe chase away the good players cuz they are white?

Well played Ireland. They certainly made the most of inept batting by Zimbabwe. Another new team that has great promise is Kenya.

England vs New Zealand is just a little over 90 minutes away.

I predict England to win it fairly comfortably - yes, I know we lost twice to NZ in the Commonwealth Bank Series, but we also beat them twice. Plus, we beat them twice without Pietersen, and with Flintoff as captain. I think with Vaughan back as captain, and Flintoff without the weight of the captaincy on him, we'll be a better side. Plus, hopefully, Collingwood can find some of the form he was in towards the end of the CBS.

England vs New Zealand is just a little over 90 minutes away.

I predict England to win it fairly comfortably - yes, I know we lost twice to NZ in the Commonwealth Bank Series, but we also beat them twice. Plus, we beat them twice without Pietersen, and with Flintoff as captain. I think with Vaughan back as captain, and Flintoff without the weight of the captaincy on him, we'll be a better side. Plus, hopefully, Collingwood can find some of the form he was in towards the end of the CBS.

That should be a really good game. I'm tipping NZ, their batting depth is pretty impressive, whereas England's is a bit fragile if a few key batsmen fail.

WTF, we have a cricket team?:eek: They're probably imposters, anyway.

WTF, we have a cricket team?:eek: They're probably imposters, anyway.

heh....I'd love it if the Netherlands won it...but there is as much chance of that as there is of me becoming Supreme Leader of the Universe....unfortunately...as I think I'd do quite well as Supreme Leader...

heh....I'd love it if the Netherlands won it...but there is as much chance of that as there is of me becoming Supreme Leader of the Universe....unfortunately...as I think I'd do quite well as Supreme Leader...

I for one welcome our new Supreme Leader.:D

I for one welcome our new Supreme Leader.:D

Huzzah! :)

Mind you its not the first time that the Netherlands have been involved in a way.

You needed to beat Scotland to qualify but failed....this was what...2000 ish???

Also I reckon you folks should use the secret weapon ;)

wwwwaaaaaa!

9th over: WICKET - Bell ct McCullum b Oram 5, Eng 30-2
Wicket falls

Jacob Oram comes on for Franklin, and it's instant joy for the wobbler - Bell advances down the track, drives loosely at a wide one and McCullum goes high to his right to take the snag. He won't be putting that shot in his scrapbook. Unless he's some sort of obsessive, detailing all his worst ever dismissals.

But you need Test status in order to play the bigger nations at one day cricket outside of the World Cup. It's not really relevant if they're any good at it - look at Bangladesh and Zimbabwe.

It would be nice to get some new teams playing regularly at the international level.

Provided they are competitive, yes.

Oh, wonderful.

England 133 for 4 (35.0 overs)

Our bowlers had better be really on form.

Oh, wonderful.

England 133 for 4 (35.0 overs)

Our bowlers had better be really on form.
At least the England we know and love are back. I mean, how dare they try and win the Ashes in 05!

Bond is in top form:
2 for 12 off 8 overs.
Can't argue with those figures.

England now 138/7.

yay for the England batting collapse.

Just hope NZ doesn't follow suit.

have to love the commentary on the BBC website for this game:

:D
It's not quite Blowers level, but it's pretty close.

have to love the commentary on the BBC website for this game:
42nd over: Eng 148-7
A single apiece to the batsmen, and Bond finishes with 2-19 off his 10 overs. Super effort. On the England balcony, Michael Vaughan is shovelling tagliatelle into his mouth. As a clump slides off his fork before he can get it to his mouth, he looks at his plate angrily and then licks the sauce reflectively off his knife.
:D

This deserves a mention:

29.1 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Violence! Gibbs charged down the track and hoicked it over long on.
29.2 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Murder! Floated on the leg and middle stump line and Gibbs sends it soaring over long-off.
29.3 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Carnage! Flatter one this time but it makes no difference to Gibbs. He just stands there and delivers. This one also has been sucked over long off
29.4 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Wah Wah! Low full toss and guess where this went Yep. A slap slog and it went over deep midwicket! He is going to go for 6 sixes in this over!
29.5 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Short in length, on the off stump line and Gibbs rocks back and swat-pulls it over wide long off. SImply amazing. What a batsman. This is pure violence!
29.6 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, He has done it! One-day record. No one has hit six sixes in a row. GIbbs stands alone in that zone. And the minnow bashing continues! Full and outside off and bludgeoned over long off
(taken from cricinfo).
6 sixes in one over. wish I could have been there to see that.


edit:
dammit: NZ 3/2 off 3 overs. Just the start they didn't need.

3/19. :eek:

Is this the same team that chased 340+ :p

Engerland!

Engerland!

Not so fast. It is 87/4. Kiwis might still pull it off. :D

This sucks. Where I live we only get Fox Sports 1 and 2. So instead of being able to watch England v N. Zealand, which is on Fox Sports 3, I'm stuck with Netherlands v Sth Africa.

Not so fast. It is 87/4. Kiwis might still pull it off. :D

97/4 now...

They might well do....and kudos if they do!

Still think Fletcher needs to fletch off... ;)

And, after several more oppurtunities to win an ODI, England appear on course to lose. Again.

143-4 (28.5) | Curr. RR: 4.96 | Req. RR: 3.17


New Zealand 143-4 (28.5) Runs Balls 4s 6s SR
S Styris not out 58 80 6 0 72.50
J Oram not out 33 43 2 1 76.74

NZ should win unless they lose another wicket like now.

97/4 now...

They might well do....and kudos if they do!

Still think Fletcher needs to fletch off... ;)

What about telling Vaughan to Vaughan off?

I don't believe I can see this sport in the U.S. so I guess I shouldn't care about this thread.

Meh, +1.

Engerland!
*Shudders*

It happened to South Africa twice. In the semi in '99, and in '03 when they messed up thier duckworth-lewis calculations.
Was that against Sri Lanka?
I think i watched that game
I don't believe I can see this sport in the U.S. so I guess I shouldn't care about this thread.

Meh, +1.
I know what you meant but...
Explanation of how to play Cricket

You have two sides, one out in the field and one in.

Each man that’s in the side that’s in goes out, and when he’s out he comes
in and the next man goes in until he’s out.

When they are all out, the side that’s out comes in and the side that’s been
in goes out and tries to get those coming in, out.

Sometimes you get men still in and not out.

When a man goes out to go in, the men who are out try to get him out, and
when he is out he goes in and the next man in goes out and goes in.

There are two men called umpires who stay all out all the time and they
decide when the men who are in are out.

When both sides have been in and all the men have out, and both sides have
been out twice after all the men have been in, including those who are not
out, that is the end of the game!”
http://www.wemadeoutinatreeandthisoldguysatandwatchedus.com/view.php?id=119
Ah funny.
have to love the commentary on the BBC website for this game:
42nd over: Eng 148-7
A single apiece to the batsmen, and Bond finishes with 2-19 off his 10 overs. Super effort. On the England balcony, Michael Vaughan is shovelling tagliatelle into his mouth. As a clump slides off his fork before he can get it to his mouth, he looks at his plate angrily and then licks the sauce reflectively off his knife.
:D
I love the Poms.:)
Still hope we thoroughly dick them like we are doing now though.:p

Bollocks

I told you guys the CB series was a cunning bluff.

I told you guys the CB series was a cunning bluff.

Ahhh....or was this a clever a reverse bluff by England? eh? eh? LOL

South Africa 353 off 40 overs! 50 overs - well, that would be over 400. Yow.

29.1 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Violence! Gibbs charged down the track and hoicked it over long on.

29.2 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Murder! Floated on the leg and middle stump line and Gibbs sends it soaring over long-off.

29.3 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Carnage! Flatter one this time but it makes no difference to Gibbs. He just stands there and delivers. This one also has been sucked over long off

29.4 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Wah Wah! Low full toss and guess where this went Yep. A slap slog and it went over deep midwicket! He is going to go for 6 sixes in this over!

29.5 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, Short in length, on the off stump line and Gibbs rocks back and swat-pulls it over wide long off. SImply amazing. What a batsman. This is pure violence!

29.6 van Bunge to Gibbs, SIX, He has done it! One-day record. No one has hit six sixes in a row. GIbbs stands alone in that zone. And the minnow bashing continues! Full and outside off and bludgeoned over deep midwicket


wow.

wow.

QFT



What a guy. Funny though, Boucher made more and made it faster :p

I'm watching something more exciting than cricket, namely paint drying. Tomorrow I'll watch grass growing.

I'm watching something more exciting than cricket, namely paint drying. Tomorrow I'll watch grass growing.

Can I join in?

Oh no wait a minute, I didn't mean to say that, I meant the other thing... ummm... what was it now... oh yeah, I remember: Screw you!

checkout stickcricket.com now. They have done some upgrades.

Now you can have lefties playing natural way...plus some new balls and strokes (ok that would sound so weird to a non-cricket person:p )

I'm watching something more exciting than cricket, namely paint drying. Tomorrow I'll watch grass growing.

Not healthy, sniffing all that paint and smoking the grass - bad bad.

3/19. :eek:

Is this the same team that chased 340+ :p


Yeah but note the wickets in that 340+ chase:
Fall of wickets1-23 (Fleming, 3.2 ov), 2-34 (Vincent, 5.3 ov), 3-38 (Taylor, 6.3 ov), 4-41 (Styris, 9.1 ov), 5-116 (Fulton, 16.5 ov), 6-281 (McMillan, 41.2 ov), 7-285 (Franklin, 42.2 ov), 8-303 (Tuffey, 44.5 ov), 9-339 (Gillespie, 48.5 ov)

4-41 and 5-116. Still scored 350.

Bollocks
QFT. :(

So the point of you posting in a Cricket thread was to...

The irony of someone with 'F1' in thier name talking about boredom?

I'm watching something more exciting than cricket, namely paint drying. Tomorrow I'll watch grass growing.
So the point of you posting in a Cricket thread was to...

So the point of you posting in a Cricket thread was to...

...provide a reference point for my trained scrotum-seeking attack weasels to home in on. :)

Thanks to this thread I finally know how you guys see 'The Dutch Topic'.:)

Thanks to this thread I finally know how you guys see 'The Dutch Topic'.:)

LOL!!!!!

I'd join in on the Cloggie thread....having lived there and enjoyed it immensely ....but I don't write or read Dutch. The only Dutch I know are swear words!

checkout stickcricket.com now. They have done some upgrades.

Now you can have lefties playing natural way...plus some new balls and strokes (ok that would sound so weird to a non-cricket person:p )

It's a damn sight harder than normal. I liked having 15 overs to twonk the ball all over the place, and ow, with 2 overs of medium pace/ spin, I can't average 20.

Thanks to this thread I finally know how you guys see 'The Dutch Topic'.:)

Great cricket team you got there :p

Stupid Sehwag. I don't know why they persist with him despite his dismal form.

India 37-2 (13.3) Runs Balls 4s 6s SR
S Ganguly not out 11 44 0 0 25.00
V Sehwag b Mortaza 2 6 0 0 33.33
R Uthappa c Ahmed b Mortaza 9 17 1 0 52.94
S Tendulkar not out 6 19 1 0 31.58



I am counting on Sachin. As always. :p

:headbang: He's gone for 7.

Ok, now I am counting on Dravid. :p

lol, India is going to lose to Bangladesh. :(

Chasing 191, they should make it if they don't make a mess of the chase.

74-2 (14.4) | Curr. RR: 5.05 | Req. RR: 3.34

lol...Pakistan has managed to beat India's nonperformance.

They made 132 all out against Ireland. :p

Extras is the top scorer. :eek:

Go Ireland. A great St.Patty's day this would be if Ireland pulls it off.



And India seems to be kindled some hopes with 2 quick wickets. BD is 82 /3 with two new batsmen in.

It would be nice to see Ireland win, already lost a wicket though.

It would be nice to see Ireland win, already lost a wicket though.

33 /2 Ireland. 118/3 BD.

Who would have thought things would turn so interesting like this. If both these teams pull it off, this would make the first round as interesting as the super 8.

Both India and Pakistan need a good kick up the arse, methinks.


Oops, looks like that kick's too late for India.:(

Both India and Pakistan need a good kick up the arse, methinks.


Oops, looks like that kick's too late for India.:(

Looks like Pak might get a reprieve with the play stopped due to bad light.

India deserved to lose after such a pathetic batting display. Kudos to BD for sticking to basics and not getting overawed by the opposition and the occasion.

Both the groups are now open. The Ind Vs SL match has become very interesting now.

Not bad for Ireland considering they only played their first ever official one-day international last June.

Looks like Pak might get a reprieve with the play stopped due to bad light.

They finished on 132 all out after 45 overs. Ireland are on 81/4 after 27 overs.

Looking like Ireland's game.

Looks like Pak might get a reprieve with the play stopped due to bad light.

India deserved to lose after such a pathetic batting display. Kudos to BD for sticking to basics and not getting overawed by the opposition and the occasion.

Both the groups are now open. The Ind Vs SL match has become very interesting now.
In the meantime, it's England v. Canada. Another chance to impress the world at the fabulous 'England collapse.'

One would have thought that recent performances would have rung a few bells, but no!:rolleyes:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/england/6461975.stm

Ahhh....or was this a clever a reverse bluff by England? eh? eh? LOL
So you chaps are going to show your true form in the final 8?
If you ever make it that is.:p

I am going to have to watch the higlights package of the cricket from today, Rugby replays, Blackburn vs West Ham and shitty spanish football were demed to be more important than World Cup Cricket...

Ireland beat Pakistan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6457689.stm)

:D

So you chaps are going to show your true form in the final 8?
If you ever make it that is.:p

I am going to have to watch the higlights package of the cricket from today, Rugby replays, Blackburn vs West Ham and shitty spanish football were demed to be more important than World Cup Cricket...

Pakistan are out...

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6457689.stm

Well two games that are against minnows....get the confidence up...LOL

Ireland beat Pakistan (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6457689.stm)

:D

There's been all this talk about whether these small sides should be allowed in the world cup, but so far they've produced some of the most exciting games of the tournament.

Bangladesh beat India as well this afternoon - I wonder how the Super Eight is going to end up looking?

I honestly didn't even know Ireland had a cricket team until a few weeks ago. That's amazing.

There's been all this talk about whether these small sides should be allowed in the world cup, but so far they've produced some of the most exciting games of the tournament.

Bangladesh beat India as well this afternoon - I wonder how the Super Eight is going to end up looking?

Very true. I am glad of the results. This is good for the game's future.

Well, Pakistanis were sent packing. There will be heads to roll, figuratively and possible literally too. :eek:

India might survive....lol...let's see.

Both the groups are now open. The Ind Vs SL match has become very interesting now.
I'd always consider Sri Lanka the favourite for that. There's a very good reason they're seeded second and whitewashed England recently (and it's not because England are shit, either).

Just had a look at the Irish bowlers' figures. Take a look at Andre Botha's:

A C Botha 8.0 4 5 2

:eek:

Just had a look at the Irish bowlers' figures. Take a look at Andre Botha's:

A C Botha 8.0 4 5 2

:eek:

Feel free to explain what that means :p

Feel free to explain what that means :p

8.0 4 5 2

is 8 overs bowled.

4 maidens - meaning 4 overs in which he did not give a single run.

5 runs given totally in 8 overs bowled by him and

2 wickets taken.

That's very impressive.

Feel free to explain what that means :p

It means the boy did well. :p

What's even more amazing about the Irish team is that they are all amateurs. They are not full time cricketers. They all have day jobs and have to get leave from their employers to play this world cup.

I guess their employers will be mad because of the extended holidays. Or maybe not. :p

It means the boy did well. :p
correction:
Begorrah, but the boy did well so he did.

What's even more amazing about the Irish team is that they are all amateurs. They are not full time cricketers. They all have day jobs and have to get leave from their employers to play this world cup.

I guess their employers will be mad because of the extended holidays. Or maybe not. :p

Well, don't forget that many of their 'day jobs' are, er, being professional cricketers. The star of the show, Niall O'Brien, for example, is a Kent lad. I've seen him play many times.

Amusingly, however, he's just been axed because of the return of Geraint Jones. It seems poor Jones can't play anywhere without having the shadow of a better keeper hanging over him. :p

Anyone know if Ed Joyce could return to play for Ireland? He might be a little more interested in the team now they've achieved something, and I sure as hell don't want him in the England team.

Edit: I don't mean this to take away from the Irish cricketers achievement. It is still a largely amateur side, doing a pretty incredible job.

8.0 4 5 2

is 8 overs bowled.

4 maidens - meaning 4 overs in which he did not give a single run.

5 runs given totally in 8 overs bowled by him and

2 wickets taken.

That's very impressive.

Ah, ok.

Excellent.

Feel free to explain what that means :p
Heh, didn't realise non-crickety people were still bothering with this thread. :p

I guess you were celebrating the win over Pakistan rather than Ireland winning the six nations...which you were so sure about earlier... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12437193&postcount=6);) :p

Heh, didn't realise non-crickety people were still bothering with this thread. :p

I guess you were celebrating the win over Pakistan rather than Ireland winning the six nations...which you were so sure about earlier... (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12437193&postcount=6);) :p

I'd love to blame the referee, but I'll blame Ronan O'Gara instead ;)

This is terrifying. I thought, even after our loss to NZ, that England, would waltz through the group stages. Now I'm scared.....:D

Ireland beat Pakistan? Pakis out for ... 132? And the St Patricks boys got it in 41.4 overs.

then

Bangladesh beat neighbours, India. India scoring 191 and Bangladesh getting the runs at the end in 48.3 overs.

WOW

Next games!
Mar 18 13:30 GMT Australia v Netherlands at Basseterre
Mar 18 13:30 GMT Canada v England at Gros Islet

I don't the Dutch have much a chance considering last game but England SHOULD win.

If England loose to the Netherlands....I will eat my shorts.

If England loose to the Netherlands....I will eat my shorts.

I cant believe how many votes england is getting to win...

If England loose to the Netherlands....I will eat my shorts.

I didn't think England was playing Netherlands next :p

I didn't think England was playing Netherlands next :p

Argh! Shag! Canada! Doh.

I have no idea where I got the idea it was Holland next...

/brainfart

England will probably have to play The Netherlands in order to qualify for the next World Cup :rolleyes:

Argh! Shag! Canada! Doh.

I have no idea where I got the idea it was Holland next...

/brainfart

Holland gets to play Oz tonight I think.

Holland gets to play Oz tonight I think.

yeah they are...

I love this headline...'Australia plan to dominate Dutch' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6461511.stm)... LOL

New Zealand will get close, again, but won't win. We'll choke probably. I mean, I hope we do win, but nah. I'm actually liking South Africa at the moment. Plus I'll chuck in Bangladesh for a bit of fun.

yeah they are...

I love this headline...'Australia plan to dominate Dutch' (http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6461511.stm)... LOL

:p You ain't got a Saint Gus now:p

I voted for them, even though I don't think they have a hope's hell of winning. Patriotism. :)
Or idiocy. :p

I cant believe how many votes england is getting to win...

I voted for them, even though I don't think they have a hope's hell of winning. Patriotism. :)

And the England fiasco gets better:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6464187.stm

He should have to pedalo his way back to Britain. Shame.

And the England fiasco gets better:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6464187.stm

He should have to pedalo his way back to Britain. Shame.
Doesn't seem to have done us too much harm. 21-0 from four overs (helped substantially by Cummins' somewhat erratic bowling - 3 wides, 2 no balls and four byes from his two overs...).

And the England fiasco gets better:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6464187.stm

He should have to pedalo his way back to Britain. Shame.

They're talking on TMS about the odd way he's been dropped, and saying they wonder if there is slightly more to come out about it yet.

More witticisms from the BBC:

Vaughan is out, getting a ropey old half-bunger from Samad and slicing it straight to Davison at backward- point.The England skipper is furious at that. He looks like he's returned from dropping his dry-cleaning in to find his car's been clamped.

:D

Joyce is gone. I really don't understand why the guy is in the England side. Strauss may have been going through a bad patch, but form is only temporary, while skill and class is permanent. They should put him back opening.

They're talking on TMS about the odd way he's been dropped, and saying they wonder if there is slightly more to come out about it yet.
It is a bit strange, isn't it. They just let the team out without Flintoff, without anything from Vaughan or Fletcher.

Seth Efrika, baby. :cool:

It is a bit strange, isn't it. They just let the team out without Flintoff, without anything from Vaughan or Fletcher.

They've just read out the ECB statement. It seems Freddie has been disciplined before, and he's also been sacked as Vice-Captain, so it looks like any ambitions he might have of one day being the full-time Captain are gone.

I don't even know what cricket is.


*wanders off*

Not a bad way to end the innings - 32 off the last two overs, with nineteen of them coming in the fiftieth. And Nixon managed 23 off 8 balls. As the BBC man said, 'Do I like that'.

They've just read out the ECB statement. It seems Freddie has been disciplined before, and he's also been sacked as Vice-Captain, so it looks like any ambitions he might have of one day being the full-time Captain are gone.
Just heard it on the radio.

I don't even know what cricket is.


*wanders off*

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cricket

Some very bad news: Bob Woolmer, Pakistan coach, has died in hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room this morning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/pakistan/6464831.stm

Some very bad news: Bob Woolmer, Pakistan coach, has died in hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room this morning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/pakistan/6464831.stm

This is terrible news. As strange as it sounds, I really hope that this simply 'his time', and he died of natural causes, rather than it being something related to yesterday.

Looks like he drank too much and passed out.

Very sad. :(

Hope nothing happens to the team members when they reach home. Pakistani fans are an emotional lot.

I think it's fair to say that the Aussies were quite convincing in their victory over the Dutch. :p

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/6461511.stm

I didn't know that Bob Woolmer was actually born in India (Kanpur, in 1948)..

http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1776208.cms
Pakistan were knocked out of the World Cup on Saturday after a shock three-wicket defeat to Ireland. Woolmer was last seen in public when he addressed the post-match media conference at the Sabina Park ground.

Ironically, he talked of the stresses of the coaching job.

"Doing it internationally, it takes a toll on you - the endless travelling and the non-stop living out of hotels."

Sky Sports had earlier reported that Woolmer was found at 1045 local time (1545 GMT) on the floor of his hotel room unconscious and with signs of vomiting.

An ambulance took him to the Kingston University Hospital.

Woolmer, who took charge of the Pakistan team in 2004, was seen late on Saturday night, but officials raised the alarm after not seeing him early on Sunday.

When they went to his hotel room, they saw he was unconscious.

In his playing career, Woolmer appeared for Kent in the English county championship and played 19 Tests for England.

He has also coached the South African national team.

Fate brought him to Pakistan in 2004 as coach, regarded the country's hottest post which had seen five changes since 1999 until his arrival. He forged a strong relationship with captain Inzamam-ul-Haq and saw to it that the skilful cricketers always remained strong in basics.

Born in the Indian city of Kanpur in 1948, Woolmer missed the inaugural World Cup in 1975 due to injury.

His playing career ended prematurely as he first joined Kerry Packer World Series Cricket and then went on rebel tours to South Africa in 1980s. He steadily developed into a renowned coach, and was credited with pioneering the use of computers in cricket.

I didn't know that Bob Woolmer was actually born in India (Kanpur, in 1948)..

http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1776208.cms

Just heard about it. If there is a silver lining, then hopefully it will put things in perspective and the Pakistanis won't start burning effigies when the team arrives home.

Just heard about it. If there is a silver lining, then hopefully it will put things in perspective and the Pakistanis won't start burning effigies when the team arrives home.

Oh they will burn effigies still.



I just hope that they don't burn the players. :eek:

Oh they will burn effigies still.



I just hope that they don't burn the players. :eek:

lol, yeah I just saw on the news just then. I have some small hope that they will cut that shit out though. Seriously, I know they love the game and are passionate, but come on. Do those guys have jobs?

Some very bad news: Bob Woolmer, Pakistan coach, has died in hospital after being found unconscious in his hotel room this morning.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/cricket/other_international/pakistan/6464831.stm

Damn! Thats pretty tragic...

Seriously, I know they love the game and are passionate, but come on. Do those guys have jobs?

Both India and Pak has huge followers of the game partly because lack of infrastructure and investment in other games. And the lack of other sporting heroes and even the general hardships living in such third world conditions, makes them have huge expectations on their cricketers.

When they win, the nation loves them and makes them gods. When they lose, the very same fans have very harsh words for them. No hero is an exception. You will see calls for Tendulkar's head if the team does not make it, despite the enormous contribution he has made all these years.

More so in Pakistan which has fewer things to cheer about. After the Bangalore world cup loss to India, Wasim Akram and co had to split up and travel in pairs in separate times and slip unnoticed. There is a Wasim Akram interview, where he talks in detail about the death threats he received and stuff.

http://sify.com/khel/wc_fullstory.php?id=14411425
Cricket fans, angry over the Indian team's loss to minnows Bangladesh in the World Cup, damaged wicketkeeper-batsman Mahendra Singh Dhoni's under-construction house in Ranchi.

Around two hundred fans under the banner of the Jharkhand Yuva Morcha (JYM) attacked the house in the Harmu housing colony. JYM is the youth wing of the Jharkhand Mukti Morcha (JMM), which is part of Jharkhand's ruling alliance.

The house was being built on 4,000 square feet of land, costing around Rs.5 million, gifted to the dashing player by former Jharkhand chief minister Arjun Munda.

The angry protesters burnt an effigy of the dashing player and shouted slogans "Dhoni Murdabad" (Down with Dhoni) and demanded that the land gifted to him be taken back.

"Dhoni's performance is getting from bad to worse. He seems to be concentrating only on advertisements instead of wicketkeeping and batting," said Ramesh Mahto, one of the protesters.

http://www.dnaindia.com/report.asp?NewsID=1085696&news=Pak%20team%20killed%20him:%20Imran&pubDate=Sun%2C+18+Mar+2007+21%3A42%3A34+GMT&keyword=dna_home
On Sunday, a huge crowd had gathered in front of Pakistani captain Inzamamul Haque’s Multan residence and chanted slogans of "Death to Woolmer, Death to Inzamam".

Poor Bob, it's not exactly his fault his team can't bat.

lmfao. First ball of the second over in India vs Bermuda and Dwayne Leverock has taken a great catch to get out Uthappa for three.

lmfao. First ball of the second over in India vs Bermuda and Dwayne Leverock has taken a great catch to get out Uthappa for three.
Still can't see any result but a thumping Indian victory. India will post in the region of 250-275, and Bermuda won't reach much more than 100. Shame, really.

Edit: I do like the cricinfo text commentator's take on the wicket:
Jones to Uthappa, OUT, OMG! what a catch by Dwayne Levorock!

Still can't see any result but a thumping Indian victory. India will post in the region of 250-275, and Bermuda won't reach much more than 100. Shame, really.

Edit: I do like the cricinfo text commentator's take on the wicket:

I agree. India is scoring at 5.10. But it was a great moment.

LOL

Sanjay Gupta is praying. "Every time the page refreshes, I pray that Sehwag is still there."

and

Hurdle to Ganguly, 2 runs, dropped! By Borren running back from mid-off. Ganguly gave the charge, attemped a lofted-drive over the off side ring but ends up skying it up. Borren ran back and to his right, got into a nice position actually but ended up palming it. Attempts to take on rebound but rebounds ,be it in cricket or relationships, doesn't work out well.

Hmmm...153-1 now, scoring at 6.12 an over. Sehwag's just short of a century. Apparently the selectors didn't want him in the squad, and it was only because he had the support of the captain (Dravid), that he's playing today. Seems he can cope with a bit of pressure.

The magical 400 mark is looking like it's going to be broken. India 391-4 with 9 balls left...and they've hit four sixes off the last six balls.

lmfao. First ball of the second over in India vs Bermuda and Dwayne Leverock has taken a great catch to get out Uthappa for three.

http://im.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/19slide2.jpg

:eek:

Bermuda really caught some stunning catches in the match.

Overall, the batting was good, but Ganguly - man does he need to learn some rotating the strike. The role of an anchor is to hold his end AND rotate strike. Not just making dot balls. :mad:

And the bowling sucks. It took India 40 + overs and gave 150 + runs to take out a side bundled out by SriLanka for 24 overs for 70 odd runs.

Agarkar is very ordinary and he is there only due to regional politics. He is well past his prime...in fact I don't think he had a prime to begin with..:rolleyes:

Well, good thing is India managed to edge SriLanka in NRR making it necessary for SL to wallop BD so they can get the edge back thereby making BDs reqd run rate to sneak through very high.

All this assuming India manages to beat SL and this bowling attack won't do that...if we manage to chase, maybe one of the biggies would click and make it.

http://im.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/19slide2.jpg

:eek:

Bermuda really caught some stunning catches in the match.

Overall, the batting was good, but Ganguly - man does he need to learn some rotating the strike. The role of an anchor is to hold his end AND rotate strike. Not just making dot balls. :mad:

And the bowling sucks. It took India 40 + overs and gave 150 + runs to side bundled out by SriLanka for 24 overs for 70 odd runs.

Agarkar is very ordinary and he is there only due to regional politics. He is well past his prime...in fact I don't think he had a prime to begin with..:rolleyes:

Well, good thing is India managed to edge SriLanka in NRR making it necessary for SL to wallop BD so they can get the edge back thereby making BDs reqd run rate to sneak through very high.

All this assuming India manages to beat SL and this bowling attack won't do that...if we manage to chase, maybe one of the biggies would click and make it.
Jeez, if England had posted 413-5 and won by over 200 runs, we'd be dancing in the streets rather than bothering to try to criticise the performance.

How about you comment on the positives, like Sehwag hitting a quite awesome ton?

http://im.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/19slide2.jpg

That's got to be one of the greatest cricketing photos ever. :p

Firstly, I wish to add my condolences to those already made regarding Bob Woolmer. There are certian things that take precedent over Cricket, as those who criticise Flintoff quite so vehemently might just consider.

Secondly, I'm ecstatic that Sehwag, Tendulkar and Yuvraj batted so well today. In an era with boring bastards like Hussey, Ponting and Kallis dominating the rankings, that such attacking, positive players are able to play is excellent. I did feel sorry for Leverott though, when Yuvray swept him over Mid-on for successive sixes....:D

400 broken! I don't think India can repeat that against a good team though. India vs Netherlands - 450? :p

400 broken! I don't think India can repeat that against a good team though. India vs Netherlands - 450? :p

Nah, you'd need a really, really useless side for a score that high.

That'll be India v England, then...

Nah, you'd need a really, really useless side for a score that high.

That'll be India v England, then...

lol

Nah, you'd need a really, really useless side for a score that high.

That'll be India v England, then...

Oh, come on. We want to concede at least 500. 10 an over is a perfectly healthy run rate.....;)

Nah, you'd need a really, really useless side for a score that high.

That'll be India v England, then...
:p

I hope England do make it to the Super 8, just so they can get absolutely tonked by India, Sri Lanka, Australia, South Africa, the Windies and Ireland.

:p

I hope England do make it to the Super 8, just so they can get absolutely tonked by India, Sri Lanka, Australia, South Africa, the Windies and Ireland.

In all sincerity, we might actually beat all of them bar Australia. We've got better players than anybody but India, we just don't play very well.

:p

I hope England do make it to the Super 8, just so they can get absolutely tonked by India, Sri Lanka, Australia, South Africa, the Windies and Ireland.

It's going to be quite embarrassing. The fact that they only just beat Canada speaks volumes.

But we have at least beaten Ireland before. :p

Jeez, if England had posted 413-5 and won by over 200 runs, we'd be dancing in the streets rather than bothering to try to criticise the performance.

How about you comment on the positives, like Sehwag hitting a quite awesome ton?

I don't think I am unduly harsh.

This is Sehwag's first century in 59 matches and two years. He was expected to make it against Bermuda. He does not get any points from me for that. If he manages a similar feat against SL, then I would be singing his glories.

But the bowling does suck. I don't know why we are persisting with Agarkar and not using Sreesanth who maybe inexperienced but at least has the heart and passion.

I don't think I am unduly harsh.

This is Sehwag's first century in 59 matches and two years. He was expected to make it against Bermuda. He does not get any points from me for that. If he manages a similar feat against SL, then I would be singing his glories.

But the bowling does suck. I don't know why we are persisting with Agarkar and not using Sreesanth who maybe inexperienced but at least has the heart and passion.

I have time for Sehwag, if only on an issue of style.

However, you are correct regarding Sreesanth. From what I have seen, which generally involves his uprooting Englishmen's stumps, he's a remarkable bowler, and a fiery enough character to add a little steel to the Indian attack.

I don't think I am unduly harsh.

This is Sehwag's first century in 59 matches and two years. He was expected to make it against Bermuda. He does not get any points from me for that. If he manages a similar feat against SL, then I would be singing his glories.
Possibly. Though he was the only Indian batsman to score a century. And considering the pressure he was under to retain his position in the team, I think he did a remarkably good job.

But the bowling does suck. I don't know why we are persisting with Agarkar and not using Sreesanth who maybe inexperienced but at least has the heart and passion.
Yes, perhaps. But like I said, take the positives. Your problems against Bangladesh were significantly due to the fact that your batsmen were poor - only two managed more than 15. Ok, so it's only Bermuda, but at the very least India will have got some confidence from that performance.

In all sincerity, we might actually beat all of them bar Australia. We've got better players than anybody but India, we just don't play very well.
I don't see us beating Sri Lanka. As I said earlier in the thread, there's a very good reason they whitewashed us in the one day series last year.

I don't see us beating Sri Lanka. As I said earlier in the thread, there's a very good reason they whitewashed us in the one day series last year.

Well, yeah. We only turn up once every ten ODI's. Other than that, we just want to get home early.

As for Sri Lanka, I'm now on a hobby horse. Bloody cheating oompah loompah.

Possibly. Though he was the only Indian batsman to score a century. And considering the pressure he was under to retain his position in the team, I think he did a remarkably good job.

Yeah, but it was Yuvraj's and Sachin's blitzkrieg that took the score past 400. Together they scored 140 runs under 13 overs with the last 5 overs going for 84 runs. That's what made the run rate higher than SL as it stands now.


Your problems against Bangladesh were significantly due to the fact that your batsmen were poor

Yes, they were poor. It was an abject display.

But SA, Aus, SL would have defended 191. India did not. That is the point. Beating up Bermuda is all fine and dandy. But the team seldom defends small totals. It is largely a batting team and largely depends on one of them firing to take them to a big score.


As for Sri Lanka, I'm now on a hobby horse. Bloody cheating oompah loompah.


Sour grapes sour grapes :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdA0UPhrfBk


Oh yeah.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NdA0UPhrfBk


Oh yeah.

Nice! :D


I was pleased to see Hodgey (http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/285883.html) score a ton against the Netherlands. After 99n/o against England, then 97n/o against NZ, he deserved a century.

Lou Vincent goes for 0 in the first over. I stayed up for this?

Lou Vincent goes for 0 in the first over. I stayed up for this?

What you moaning about, Kiwi won easily!
Should have watched the SA vs Scotland eh?

What you moaning about, Kiwi won easily!
Should have watched the SA vs Scotland eh?
Hardly. More cricket in the Kenya vs NZ match. I mean, South Africa didn't even need half their overs to reach their target.

Heh, Pollock must've really enjoyed batting today:

S M Pollock not out 0 runs 0 balls faced 0 fours 0 sixes. :p

Woolmer's autopsy is inconclusive. :confused:

I hope there was no foul play, but given the involvement of the mafia in indpak cricket...

What's up with Vaughan?
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/wc2007/content/current/story/286367.html

Vaughan, who missed most of the 2006 season with a chronic knee problem, was forced to play a minimal part in England's training session on Tuesday after tripping in a pot-hole on the outfield at Gros Islet.

Accident prone? At least he didn't get drunk and fall off a boat-thingy.

Woolmer's autopsy is inconclusive. :confused:

I hope there was no foul play, but given the involvement of the mafia in indpak cricket...
nah. I'd wager it's just a heart attack brought on by stress. He had diabetes and high blood pressure. Two things that do not go well together.

nah. I'd wager it's just a heart attack brought on by stress. He had diabetes and high blood pressure. Two things that do not go well together.

Cops suspect poisoning. Death is now treated as suspicious.

I am guessing there was match fixing and he was about to spill the beans.

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/21woolmer.htm
Pakistan cricket coach Bob Woolmer's death at the World Cup on Sunday is now being treated as "suspicious" by Jamaican police, the deputy commissioner Mark Shields told a news conference on Tuesday.

"Having met the pathologist, medical personnel and other investigators, there is now sufficient information to continue a full investigation into the circumstances surrounding the death of Mr Woolmer which we are now treating as suspicious," Shields said, reading a short statement.

http://www.thisislondon.co.uk/sport/article-23389745-details/Woolmer%20'may%20have%20been%20poisoned%20to%20protect%20match-fixing%20mafia'/article.do
Cricket coach Bob Woolmer may have been murdered, it was claimed today.

Blood was found on the floor of his Jamaican hotel room and there are reports of traces of poison being discovered there.

http://www.cricketnext.com/news/woolmer-was-murdered-report/23841-13.html


New Delhi: Hours after the Pakistan Cricket Board revealed that the findings from a post-mortem into the death of Pakistan coach Bob Woolmer were "inconclusive", Pakistan's Geo TV on Wednesday claimed that the probe is now focusing on a murder angle.

The Jamaican police later confirmed that Bob Woolmer's death was not natural and that he seems to have died of "poisoning".

The police termed the nature of death as "suspicious" and said it is possible that Woolmer's food was poisoned. They, however, clarified that suspicion doesn't necessarily mean a negative outcome.

Mark Shields, the deputy chief constable of the Jamaican police force, confirmed that the death was being treated as suspicious.

"The post-mortem into the death of Mr Woolmer was inconclusive," he said.

"But having met with the pathologists and other medical personnel, there is sufficient information to continue a full investigation into the circumstances of Mr Woolmer's death which is now being treated as suspicious."

"At this stage, we can't say it's a murder or anything else," the police said.

The cops did say that fingerprints have been found from Bob Woolmer's room. They also confirmed that the Pakistani cricket team has been advised not to leave the hotel. The police have already questioned the physio and the trainer of the Pakistani team.

Geo TV's Sports Correspondent Kamran Abdul Mannan told CNN-IBN that their Jamaican sources have revealed that "traces of poison" were found in Woolmer's body and this confirms that Woolmer actually died of "poisoning".

He, however, said it was not yet clear whether it was a case of murder or a suicide.

Mannan also revealed that the movement of the Pakistani cricket team has been restricted and all the players have been told to stay in their rooms.

However, PCB claims that no such restrictions has been put on the players and they are free to move around.

The PCB is also likely to hold a press conference later in the day.

Meanwhile, Pakistan team's spokesperson Pervez Mir said, "We are accepting whatever the police are saying. They say it is a suspicious death and investigations are on. But suspicious does not always mean that it is something negative."

The Pakistani Urdu television network earlier quoted the Jamaica police as claiming that the findings of the post-mortem have raised reasonable suspicion that Woolmer was actually murdered.

The report came after further investigations were carried out by a toxicologist and a histologist (scientist who examines body tissue) into Woolmer's death.

Earlier, the Pakistan Cricket Board had claimed that the findings from the post-mortem were "inconclusive". The press conference of the Pakistan Cricket Board was, however, held while the results of the toxicology and histology tests were still being awaited.

Mark Shields, deputy commissioner of the Jamaican police constabulary (crime division), said the body could not be released until the pathologist had completed his examination.

"I know that the scientists are treating it with the utmost urgency in order that we can hopefully repatriate the body to his family as soon as possible," Shields said.

Asked when the scientists' conclusions would be available, Shields replied: "I just know they are working as quickly as possible to provide the information that we need. I hope it's today, but it could be tomorrow," he said on Wednesday.

He added that it was quite normal for there to be delays over a post mortem findings and refused to speculate on the causes of the death. The police said Woolmer died in hospital at 1214 hours local time (1714 hours British time) on Sunday.

Woolmer, 58, was found unconscious in his Kingston hotel room on Sunday after his team had been eliminated from the World Cup by debutants Ireland less than 24 hours earlier.

(With input from Agencies)

This world gets more bizarre every day!

More mystery...with allegations of poisoning

http://worldcup.indiatimes.com/articleshow/1790646.cms
Police have reportedly found traces of poison on the floor of Woolmer's hotel room. There was blood on his cheek and eyes and scratches on his neck.

''There is now sufficient information to continue a full investigation of the circumstances surrounding the death of Mr Woolmer, which we are now treating as suspicious,'' said Jamaica deputy commissioner of police Mark Shields.
..
In fact, former Pakistan cricketer Sarfaraz Nawaz has not only called it a murder but has accused an international betting mafia - also involving ICC and Pakistan board officials, match referees and umpires - of doing in Woolmer.

He said that Woolmer was about to spill the beans on this syndicate in a forthcoming book.

There is also another conspiracy theory about Pakistan's startling and unexpected defeat against Ireland.

According to it, the match might have been fixed and Woolmer possibly got to know about it. No doubt those who put their money on Ireland made a killing, but it must be stressed that this theory has no basis so far.

The British tabloid, Daily Mail , said: "Police are questioning the Pakistan team who have been asked to stay in Kingston for two days after their final group match (on Wednesday) so that investigations can continue."

Communications director for the Jamaica Constabulary Force, Karl Angell, however, denied that the Pakistanis were being heavily interrogated by detectives and being isolated.

Woolmer's widow, Gill, rubbished reports that match-fixing may have anything to do with the tragedy. "No, I don't see any conspiracy in his death. I am aware that his death is being viewed as a suspicious death. He had nothing to do with the match-fixing controversy and any such person being involved is highly unlikely," she said.

and even strangulation...according to some Jamaican media...not very convincing..its hearsay..

http://www.ndtv.com/sports/cricket/showstory.asp?section=topstory&id=21669&template=WC2007&slug=Woolmer+strangulated%2C+says+media+report
Radio Jamaica reported on Wednesday that the former Pakistan coach was strangulated.

It said strangulation marks were found on Woolmer's neck.



Meanwhile, the Lankans beat BD thoroughly making the task of BD sneaking in through NRR very very improbable. They have to match India's performance against Bermuda and make up for their drubbing at the hands of Sri Lanka....assuming India beats SL :p if not they are through..as well as Ireland.

Ireland and Bangladesh in Super 8. Who would have thought...:p

Ireland and Bangladesh in Super 8. Who would have thought...:p
me (http://forums.jolt.co.uk/showpost.php?p=12395638&postcount=3) :p

Radio Jamaica reported on Wednesday that the former Pakistan coach was strangulated.
Strangulated? What kind of fucked up English is that? It's strangled!

Well done to Sri Lanka - almost certainly in the Super 8 now, unless they lose heavily to India and Bangladesh really thump Bermuda.

Special mention to Chaminda Vaas, who managed bowling figures of 7 4 11 1 :eek:

And also well done to Pakistan - can't have been easy going out to play what with everything that's gone on in the last few days, so to hit 349 and bowl Zimbabwe out for under 100 is pretty impressive. Stupid Duckworth/Lewis, however, means they only win by 93 runs. :rolleyes:

Strangulated? What kind of fucked up English is that? It's strangled!

Well done to Sri Lanka - almost certainly in the Super 8 now, unless they lose heavily to India and Bangladesh really thump Bermuda.

Special mention to Chaminda Vaas, who managed bowling figures of 7 4 11 1 :eek:

And also well done to Pakistan - can't have been easy going out to play what with everything that's gone on in the last few days, so to hit 349 and bowl Zimbabwe out for under 100 is pretty impressive. Stupid Duckworth/Lewis, however, means they only win by 93 runs. :rolleyes:

Medical term
http://www.thefreedictionary.com/Strangulated

Stran´gu`la`ted
a. 1. (Med.) Having the circulation stopped by compression; attended with arrest or obstruction of circulation, caused by constriction or compression; as, a strangulated hernia.
2. (Bot.) Contracted at irregular intervals, if tied with a ligature; constricted.
Strangulated hernia
(Med.) See under Hernia.

lol. Chasing 363 Canada is 2/110 after 22 overs. Probably won't be able to make it, but a pretty good effort so far.

lol. Chasing 363 Canada is 2/110 after 22 overs. Probably won't be able to make it, but a pretty good effort so far.
They were looking good at one point - they reached fifty before the end of the fifth over. Davison was really taking it to the Kiwis. Then he got out and the run rate's been going downhill ever since.

Worst team of current cup = Scotland!
http://content-aus.cricinfo.com/wc2007/engine/current/match/247474.html

The Dutch beat them by 8 wickets

Big day tomorrow. It's do or die for India.

If India chases (say a total of <270) they have a good chance of winning. But if they are bowling, nothing less than 300 would do for the toothless bowling (especially with the form the Lankan batsmen are). Jayasurya...damn he is fucking 37 years old...will he ever retire..:mad: :p

Big day tomorrow. It's do or die for India.

If India chases (say a total of <270) they have a good chance of winning. But if they are bowling, nothing less than 300 would do for the toothless bowling (especially with the form the Lankan batsmen are). Jayasurya...damn he is fucking 37 years old...will he ever retire..:mad: :p
Sri Lanka will win. I am fairly confident of that. Jayasuriya, Sangakkara and Jayawardene will make mincemeat of the Indian bowling attack, and if Vaas and Malinga can keep up their form with the ball...well, India won't stand much chance.

Big day tomorrow. It's do or die for India.

If India chases (say a total of <270) they have a good chance of winning. But if they are bowling, nothing less than 300 would do for the toothless bowling (especially with the form the Lankan batsmen are). Jayasurya...damn he is fucking 37 years old...will he ever retire..:mad: :p

India needs the bowling to work indeed, most of the good teams like Australia, SA, Sri Lanka and NZ have their bowling working well. Sri Lanka can smash any attack on a good day.

The Australia - South Africa match is shaping up to be a beauty.

http://www.rediff.com/wc2007/2007/mar/23woolmer6.htm
Pakistan players to undergo DNA tests in Woolmer probe :eek:

It's strange that people can be so caught up in a game that they'll strangle a losing coach.

Organized crime? Pakistani ISI agents upset for nationalistic reasons? Irate fans?

The list must be endless.

It's strange that people can be so caught up in a game that they'll strangle a losing coach.

Organized crime? Pakistani ISI agents upset for nationalistic reasons? Irate fans?

The list must be endless.
You're an American.
You just wouldn't - nay couldn't - understand.

Well India are more or less out... How many minnows are going to be in the super 8, I'm still waiting on Kenya to beat England :D