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But...but...she's so honest and real!!!

/sarcasm

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

Just too funny for words...

Can there be any limit to pandering? Please?

Too bad Hillary doesn't have a Chicago accent, after all she is from the north burbs. My Dad actually went to the same High School she did (a few years after she did)

That's so hilarious.

My Dad actually went to the same High School she did (a few years after she did)

maine township for teh win!

your dad go to maine east or maine south? hillary went to both, iirc.

Maybe Hillary can unite America, becoming a focal-point for hate for Democrats, Republicans and those as yet unpolarised.

She sounds funny.

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

Just too funny for words...



Surely shes done something more worthy of comment than this? Dodged vietnam? Been too stoned to fly? Jumped her buddy in as chief of police ahead of the more qualified?

maine township for teh win!

your dad go to maine east or maine south? hillary went to both, iirc.

My Dad went to East. Hillary went to East for 3 years and then transferred to Maine South for her senior year.

So, you're saying it was great that she faked an accent to pander to an audience?

I'd say that would depend on the quality of the accent.....How do you think her faking of accents would affect US policy abroad?

Still worried that if you let up republicans might actually vote for her, huh? Well, carry on...sound and fury and all that jazz...

Still worried that if you let up republicans might actually vote for her, huh? Well, carry on...sound and fury and all that jazz...

So, you're saying it was great that she faked an accent to pander to an audience?

My Dad went to East. Hillary went to East for 3 years and then transferred to Maine South for her senior year.

now is the point where i'm supposed to work up some high school pride and say that maine east sucks, i think. but they do have the nice looking building of the district.

So, you're saying it was great that she faked an accent to pander to an audience?

No, I'm saying no one gives a shit, the 'hard left' that you guys keep trying to convince yourself she's part of don't like her because of her pro-war stance and centrist leanings and it is comical to watch you guys jump up and down like monkeys because you're afraid if you let up for a second and she gets the nomination she'll steal moderate republican votes so you spend all this sound and fury trying to convince the faithful that she's 'hard left.'

But dance away, a good sideshow is entertaining now and then.

So, you're saying it was great that she faked an accent to pander to an audience?

I think he's saying it's not newsworthy. Anyone with a thought in their head knows she's a pandering bitch. All you have to do is watch her for a bit.

No, I'm saying no one gives a shit, the 'hard left' that you guys keep trying to convince yourself she's part of don't like her because of her pro-war stance and centrist leanings and it is comical to watch you guys jump up and down like monkeys because you're afraid if you let up for a second and she gets the nomination she'll steal moderate republican votes so you spend all this sound and fury trying to convince the faithful that she's 'hard left.'

But dance away, a good sideshow is entertaining now and then.

Note that I have mentioned none of the stuff you're talking about.

Rant away uselessly.

I'm just saying this is funny - you're off on a political shitstorm of your own making.

Note that I have mentioned none of the stuff you're talking about.

Rant away uselessly.

I'm just saying this is funny - you're off on a political shitstorm of your own making.

Uh huh...

I think this is horribly funny, actually. Mainly because her audience was clearly eating it right up. It's like the good 'ol days with Bill "Ah feel yer pain!" Clinton who, though many would like to forget, actually was from the South... only slightly more hilarious.

To be perfectly honest though, it's her soulless, monotone droning of a voice that annoys me most, accent or no accent.

Uh huh...

Show me where I mentioned anything other than this being funny. Go ahead.

Surely shes done something more worthy of comment than this? Dodged vietnam? Been too stoned to fly? Jumped her buddy in as chief of police ahead of the more qualified?

Absolutely. She has performed magic by making billing records appear (http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/shows/arkansas/docs/recs.html)where there were none before. And she's made an entire department of the White House disappear (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_House_travel_office_controversy).

she lived in arkansas a good long time. she was in alabama (im assuming, i cant watch net video) she may well have picked up the accent. i know i do it.

i also noticed that obama did more "y'all-ing" than is normal for a senator from illinois. is he fake too?

all i know is that i find accent very easy to pick up without noticing it. if i lived in the UK, i would sound just like madonna.

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

Just too funny for words...

Can there be any limit to pandering? Please?

Nevermind G.W.'s accent has been getting heavier since he's been in Washington. Speech classes much.

Can there be any limit to pandering? Please?
No. There are no limits, only new frontiers. Hillary was Jewish in her Senate election, her husband was the first black President. And on, and on.

Nevermind G.W.'s accent has been getting heavier since he's been in Washington. Speech classes much.

Well that was more of a side effect of the standing-upright training. Just like not shitting and immediately throwing it at passers-by anymore is another side effect, but with positive results for everybody in the area.

My voice changes depending on what part of the country I'm spending time in, or even depending on who I'm talking to. If I'm talking to Cajuns, my voice picks up their inflections, because I picked them up as a child, but they disappeared when I wasn't around them anymore. When I spend time in rural areas, my voice is more twangy than usual. By the time I left San Francisco after being there two years, I'd lost a lot of my twang, though it would come back when I talked to my sister on the phone. I think--what a shock--that some people are making a whole lot of something out of nothing here.

Meh.

It's going to be a long election if they are looking at silly things like this.

If you have good hearing and or live somewhere long enough, you will pick up the accent.

Accents are also interpreted. My cousins in Michigan think I have a Southern accent and I haven't lived in the South.

So let me get this straight.. She's a politician and she's pandering? How about that!? Well, what do you know? How's that go again!? Well, shit!

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

Just too funny for words...

Can there be any limit to pandering? Please?

Lolz. She sounds like my science teacher.

Surely shes done something more worthy of comment than this? Dodged vietnam? Been too stoned to fly? Jumped her buddy in as chief of police ahead of the more qualified?

Nope. Her pretending to be Southern is the most important thing in the news after Anna Nicole Smith. It's so much worse than anything the Republicans have done. Including George W. Bush's pretending to be Southern.

When a millionaire from New England faked a Texas accent, wore faux cowboy boots, and called his mansion a ranch, the Republicans nominated him for governor twice and for president twice.

Dear god, that's horrible. I thought I was going to laugh, but only an uneasy smirk came out of it.

The difference between her and Dubya? Dubya's fake accent sounds more convincing.

*Points* She's a great big phoney!

..as if we didn't already know.. :p

Also, worst southern accent ever.. wow.

*Points* She's a great big phoney!

..as if we didn't already know.. :p

Also, worst southern accent ever.. wow.

Well... I reckon that thar be the worst accent I've heard this side o' da great Mississippi.

Actually that was a great accent. It was definitely better and more tolerable than real ones.

Actually that was a great accent. It was definitely better and more tolerable than real ones.

Which is why it's so craptastic and scrotagonal.
REAL Southern Accents are barely tolerable hunks of jargon and age-worn euphamisms that don't make sense, coupled with a few rowdy YEE-HAWs and the firing of a shotgun. Her accent is nothing like that.

She has to include the words "y'all" "niggerfaggot" "Honeysucker" and "Limp-wristed queers" if she wants to seem Southern at all. On a sidenote: If you've ever seen the "Niggerfaggot" video, you would quickly understand why me and my only (yes only one) black friend constantly refer to him as niggerfaggot. It's just a damn funny word.

So much so that it's neither racist nor homophobic!

Homophobe... Fear of homos?
Let's compare it to arachnaphobia [stop me if you've heard this joke]

http://www.ifilm.com/profile/breitbart/video/2829104

Just too funny for words...

Can there be any limit to pandering? Please?
simply dreadful. Glad no-one else does anything similar.
If they did, Eve of course will be the first to jump in and denigrate them.

So for example - off the top of my head and entirely made up scenario - if a boy from an extremely wealthy, powerful and influential family (as close to a US version of Blue Bloods if ever there was one) was born in New Haven, Connecticut, went to Harvard and Yale yet in later life tried to pass himself off as a "good ol' Texas boy" - y'know, the sort of regular joe who could well turn up in his pick-up truck with a slab of cold brews to watch the game with you in your trailer park (but in actual fact his family is so removed from this state of existance, they probably have difficulty even comprehending the concept of trailer parks) - Eve will be first in line snorting derisively and mocking said rich boy's feeble attempts of pandering and trying to pass himself off as a regular working class joe sixpack.

Won't you, Eve?

My voice changes depending on what part of the country I'm spending time in, or even depending on who I'm talking to.
It's very easy to do, especially if the accent is very broad - and especially if one is a Kiwi. Not having much of an accent ourselves (though we do admittedly have a very lazy way of talking), we tend to pick up accents and speech mannerisms easily.
At times, it can be embarassing.

When I was working in a gym years back a kid came in with a dreadful stutter. I was showing him around the equipment and I caught myself stuttering the same words he was. When I realised what I was doing I felt lousy. I didn't apologise cause I didn't want to draw attention to what I had done - I just hoped he didn't notice or if he did he didn't think I was taking the piss.

When I saw the clip, I thought she was being sarcastic .. or playing around. It was so obviously stressed. Certainly the people she was speaking to knew she was faking? If not .. they are stupid.

Also when I watched her walking with Bill and all the people throwing themselves at him.. she looked annoyed. They'll never like her as much as they do him. lol

Obamas southern accent came off smoother, though still very noticeable.

My voice changes depending on what part of the country I'm spending time in, or even depending on who I'm talking to. If I'm talking to Cajuns, my voice picks up their inflections, because I picked them up as a child, but they disappeared when I wasn't around them anymore. When I spend time in rural areas, my voice is more twangy than usual. By the time I left San Francisco after being there two years, I'd lost a lot of my twang, though it would come back when I talked to my sister on the phone. I think--what a shock--that some people are making a whole lot of something out of nothing here.


I can see picking up sayings, but a change of accent would take me a long time, even if then. I've known people who change the way they speak when they get around black people. IMO that is disrespectful to who they are speaking to.. like the people are too stupid to notice they are just doing it because they are talking to them. I've never had a heavy accent. Where my sisters husband is from they sound like some sort of irish dialect (think the movie Snatch) on some of their words.. like out, house, down. I've spent lots of time with them, and it never rubbed off on me. Don't think it ever would.

I can see picking up sayings, but a change of accent would take me a long time, even if then. I've known people who change the way they speak when they get around black people. IMO that is disrespectful to who they are speaking to.. like the people are too stupid to notice they are just doing it because they are talking to them. I've never had a heavy accent. Where my sisters husband is from they sound like some sort of irish dialect (think the movie Snatch) on some of their words.. like out, house, down. I've spent lots of time with them, and it never rubbed off on me. Don't think it ever would.

Let me be clear on one thing--I don't know if it's happening naturally with Hillary or if it's something she's doing intentionally or a little of both. My guess is that she's deliberately allowing some of her old accent to come through in places where it would make sense for her to do so. She wouldn't be the first. But because she's Hillary, she gets more shit for it from a certain crowd around here and elsewhere on the intertubes. It's as though her pandering is somehow more egregious than any other politician's pandering.

Is she pretending to be from a trailer park?

Pandering you say? John McCain at Liberty University saw something?
GWB's accent and pandering to the "nuts" as Rove calls them say anything else. All politicians pander, some just look worse when they do it.

Does anyone know when and where she actually gave this speech? I'd like to find video if possible, and also get the entire thing in context. I wonder if she didn't adopt the accent for this specific hymn quotation.

There is also something a little fake-sounding about the audio itself, so I would appreciate reliable confirmation that this actually happened and the file was not modified.

Does anyone know when and where she actually gave this speech? I'd like to find video if possible, and also get the entire thing in context. I wonder if she didn't adopt the accent for this specific hymn quotation.

There is also something a little fake-sounding about the audio itself, so I would appreciate reliable confirmation that this actually happened and the file was not modified.

Ok, how about this?

http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6178779

Page down to see the story.

Ok, how about this?

http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6178779

Page down to see the story.Well, this doesn't really help much, does it?

All this news source does is repeat the allegations made by conservative bloggers. It does not provide video, and it does not provide independent corroboration of the event. Indeed, it will not even say more than that Clinton "allegedly" faked a Southern accent.

At any rate, I have read elsewhere that the allegation is, in fact, that she adopted the accent only for her quotation of the hymn--which may not have come off well because she's not very good at accents, but at least she wasn't trying to "pretend" that she's Southern, which is what seemed to be implied by the original post.

Personally, I don't find anything very offensive about this. It's like adopting a "country" affect to sing a country song--they just don't sound "right" if you don't. Too bad she wasn't any good at it... and if you can't pull it off, you should leave it alone.

Still, I'm not completely convinced it happened at all. That audio file sounds fishy, and until I get independent corroboration from reliable media--or I get video, which would be a bit harder to fake--I'm going to remain suspicious.

Ok, how about this?

http://www.wmcstations.com/Global/story.asp?S=6178779

Page down to see the story.

"Whether or not Clinton mocked an accent is up for debate, but the controversy surrounding her speech is real."

greatest summary of everything that is wrong with the media ever

"Whether or not Clinton mocked an accent is up for debate, but the controversy surrounding her speech is real."

greatest summary of everything that is wrong with the media ever

I don't think it's controversial - I just think it's funny.

Speaking as someone raised in the Deep South, the accent in the video (second link) is definitely faked. Why?

I don't think it's controversial - I just think it's funny.

Speaking as someone raised in the Deep South, the accent in the video (second link) is definitely faked. Why?

Who cares?

Speaking as someone raised in the Deep South, the accent in the video (second link) is definitely faked. Why?What video?

What second link?

Someone help me out here?

Aha.

Yet Another Wingnut Sliming Of Hillary Proven To Be Bogus (http://www.talkingpointsmemo.com/horsesmouth/2007/03/yet_another_win.php)

Corny though she may be, note that in the video her Southern audience clearly takes it all in good humor. It appears to have been a very well received speech.

At any rate, there was nothing "phony" about it.