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At what point must even Conservatives admit that the whole "it's the media's fault" thing has gotten ridiculous?

A politician who has gone on record as advocating killing Muslims and exclaiming "screw the Buddhists" blames the media for making it seem like that's a bad thing to say.

Jordan blamed his woes on the media, which he said paid more attention to things conservatives said than liberals.

"Let me tell you how I feel," he said. "The daggum news media's got nothing to write about. I made a joke about Muslims and the daggum news media won't forget it. They keep bringing it up and bringing it up."

I can hardly believe this bullshit. I wouldn't if not for the fact that a conservative yesterday said that conservatives accept when they are wrong and like rational discussion.

This moron claims that Conservatives get the harsh coverage. Like when they claimed that Kerry contradicted himself on support for the war? Or that Howard Dean went crazy at one of his rallies? Or that Hillary was in political trouble for using the phrase "on the plantation?" Or when Biden got kicked out of the race the day he entered it for his stupid comments about Obama?

When will conservatives just admit that their side of the political spectrum is full of vile racists and that the only reason the media always shows them saying something stupid or hateful is because they're always saying stupid and hateful things?

Here's the link.
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/16825011.htm

What a douche.

You can blame SOME things on the media, such as hype (I point now to the "White-Woman-in-Peril Syndrome").

But I would say 7 out of 10 times bad press is entirely your fault.

You can blame SOME things on the media, such as hype (I point now to the "White-Woman-in-Peril Syndrome").

But I would say 7 out of 10 times bad press is entirely your fault.

Pfff. I thought it was the media's job to tell me when pretty white women go missing. How else will I know to worry about the pretty white women?

Eh. What's new? Coulter is already hiding her own niceties, for instance.

At what point must even Conservatives admit that the whole "it's the media's fault" thing has gotten ridiculous?

A politician who has gone on record as advocating killing Muslims and exclaiming "screw the Buddhists" blames the media for making it seem like that's a bad thing to say.



I can hardly believe this bullshit. I wouldn't if not for the fact that a conservative yesterday said that conservatives accept when they are wrong and like rational discussion.

This moron claims that Conservatives get the harsh coverage. Like when they claimed that Kerry contradicted himself on support for the war? Or that Howard Dean went crazy at one of his rallies? Or that Hillary was in political trouble for using the phrase "on the plantation?" Or when Biden got kicked out of the race the day he entered it for his stupid comments about Obama?

When will conservatives just admit that their side of the political spectrum is full of vile racists and that the only reason the media always shows them saying something stupid or hateful is because they're always saying stupid and hateful things?

Here's the link.
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/16825011.htm

Holy shit. Buddhism is the only religion I would ever consider. Can I go kick this guy in the nuts (if I can find them)?

Buddhism is the only religion I would ever consider. Can I go kick this guy in the nuts (if I can find them)?

:rolleyes: :D

I'd say you are well on your way to embracing the Buddhist principles.

If I were the guy though, I wouldn't be that annoyed. I read the newspaper daily and have many news sites bookmarked- and I've never heard of this yahoo.

Why blame the media when you can directly blame the Jews?

Everyone gets bad press, if the paper/news channel has a bias on one side(which most of them do), they will give people on the other side more bad press. To deny media bias is to deny reality.

:rolleyes: :D

I'd say you are well on your way to embracing the Buddhist principles.

If I were the guy though, I wouldn't be that annoyed. I read the newspaper daily and have many news sites bookmarked- and I've never heard of this yahoo.

Neither did I until today. And I know the core principles of Buddhism, which why I'd never consider anything else.

Neither did I until today. And I know the core principles of Buddhism, which why I'd never consider anything else.

I was only remarking on the irony of defending Buddhism as a choice of spirit, and then threatening to kick someone in the nuts. I imply only that the two aren't consistent.

I was only remarking on the irony of defending Buddhism as a choice of spirit, and then threatening to kick someone in the nuts. I imply only that the two aren't consistent.

Technically speaking, there is no deity worship in Buddhism.

Technically speaking, there is no deity worship in Buddhism.

Technically speaking, there is no nut-kicking in Buddhism. :D

I was only remarking on the irony of defending Buddhism as a choice of spirit, and then threatening to kick someone in the nuts. I imply only that the two aren't consistent.

Yeah, I know. I don't actually practice, but the humor was actually kinda funny.

Oh, and time warp.

You're converting away from Hinduism? *gets out big book of ways to make indians feel guilty* Where should I begin?

I'm not converting away from Hinduism, and I'm a practicing atheist. I'm just saying Buddhism is the only religion I can think about without feeling slightly sick.

Holy shit. Buddhism is the only religion I would ever consider. Can I go kick this guy in the nuts (if I can find them)?

You're converting away from Hinduism? *gets out big book of ways to make indians feel guilty* Where should I begin?

I would have ignored this thread if it were not for the last comment by the OP.

Does he not realize that just 40 years ago, the Democrats were the party of segregation :confused: ?

And anywho, both halves of the political spectrum have blamed the media to some degree for their failures, it's not just the Republicans (as the media would have you believe :p ).

And anywho, both halves of the political spectrum have blamed the media to some degree for their failures, it's not just the Republicans (as the media would have you believe :p ).

Well, to be fair, it's hard to find democrats and liberals spouting crap on the same level of stupidness that the Republicans have been doing nowadays in the media.

On one side, we've got Hilary "Ban all video games" or Gore's "stop environmental destruction with somewhat vague, but not overly helpful suggestions"

So it's bad, but somehow, I don't think it's as bad as people going "Kill them all"

Technically speaking, there is no nut-kicking in Buddhism. :D

However, there is a martial art technique to pull your nuts into your body so that they can't be kicked. Maybe he's selling the Buddhists short.

I would have ignored this thread if it were not for the last comment by the OP.

Does he not realize that just 40 years ago, the Democrats were the party of segregation :confused: ?

Democrats, yes. Liberals, no. And it was only southern democrats. The very second that educated urban democrats gained enough power in the party to turn it somewhat more liberal, the Republicans swooped right in and claimed the mantle of racism. That's why Strom Thurmond became a Republican. He was always a conservative, but only a Republican when they embraced his ideals.

And anywho, both halves of the political spectrum have blamed the media to some degree for their failures, it's not just the Republicans (as the media would have you believe :p ).

But the Republicans do it constantly. And they're constantly screwing up. The constant "well you never hear about the schools we're building, you only hear about them getting blown up. Where do you think all these buildings are getting blown up are coming from. The whole damned city's been blown up about 5 times by now, but we've been rebuilding. That's a good thing. But all you hear about it is how fucked up it is," line has gone from ridiculous to tedious. This guy is just absurd.

Wish I was in a position to tell conservative politicians everywhere, "if you want the media to stop making you look like vile filthy amoral vermin, then stop being that."

Hey, if you don't want to get hit by the media guns, stay out of the limelight. The media will print or play whatever sells.

Redneck conservatives just happen to make the best snafu's.

When will conservatives just admit that their side of the political spectrum is full of vile racists and that the only reason the media always shows them saying something stupid or hateful is because they're always saying stupid and hateful things?

Here's the link.
http://www.myrtlebeachonline.com/mld/myrtlebeachonline/16825011.htm

In a narrow sense, they're not going to admit it because its not true. This person is engaging in racial demagoguery, but racial demagoguery is not consistent with principled conservatism, and there are plenty of conservatives out there who are just as, if not more, appalled than you are that this is the face of modern "conservatism". As a populist liberal (and I don't mean "I'm moderately in favor of throwing more bones to the poor" kind of populist liberal), I would say that conservatism and conservatives have many faults, but systemic racial bias is not one of them. That's the influence of the Dixiecrat, and Dixiecrats are only part of the conservative coalition.

In the wider sense, I would say that they can't say it because it's crucial to maintaining their world-view. In the last 30 years, the Republicans have won politically because they have very carefully constructed a cadre of voters who are outraged, but are unclear about what they are outraged by and deeply suspicious of accounts by mainstream media to tell what to be outraged by. Effectively, 20% of the population today simply will not accept the veracity of a story unless it's been vetted by a prescribed political outlet like Fox News or Rush Limbaugh. These 20% are the core of the Republican voting efforts and the center of their success over the last 30 years; to tell them now that, yes, the mainstream media is right about, say, the scientific consensus over global warming will not only not convince them; it will simply lead that 20% to regard you as part of the establishment conspiracy to be outraged by. The Republican party, simply put, has been building a wind tunnel to blow hot air about whatever issue they want; now they have to ride the electoral lightning when their believers keep believing even when its no longer politically convenient.

There are have been cases in the past when media has either over-hyped stories or just made stuff up. It's not nearly as common as the likes of Rush would have youy believe but CBS did forge documents back in an '04 story so to say it's never happened would be untrue. Still, a few anecdotes a trend does not make. And it isn't just conservatives that have a problem with the media. I couldn't stop laughing the first time I heard one of the hosts talk about the anti-liberal bias of corporate media, it was like a conspiracy theory or something. As bad as Rush but on the other side of the aile.

Or that Howard Dean went crazy at one of his rallies?

Going kinda OT, but apparently him 'going crazy' was actually a distortion, because the mic/s being used for background/crowd noise was turned down on the soundboard, but they were actually really loud. Their loudness meant he needed to shout to be heard at the scene, but since his mic's volume was up but the crowd noise wasn't it sounded like he was shouting when he didn't need to be.

Going kinda OT, but apparently him 'going crazy' was actually a distortion, because the mic/s being used for background/crowd noise was turned down on the soundboard, but they were actually really loud. Their loudness meant he needed to shout to be heard at the scene, but since his mic's volume was up but the crowd noise wasn't it sounded like he was shouting when he didn't need to be.

Here's the link with the crowd noise:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uphij88fzK8

When will conservatives just admit that their side of the political spectrum is full of vile racists and that the only reason the media always shows them saying something stupid or hateful is because they're always saying stupid and hateful things?
Wasn't it the Republican's that freed the slaves? I don't see how you could get racism out of that.

Are there racists within the party? Seems that way. But there are also some on the left too. In fact there're probably people with every prejudice under the sun in every party. Get a big enough tapestry and you'll have all sorts of loose threads.

It's important to remember that racism is any treatment of someone based on the color of their skin.