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Given a choice to be a socialist, what kind of socialist would you be?

A very sociable socialist.

Libertarian socialist.

You'll see a lot of this type of answer.

I am a non-socialist socialist.

So your non, Eve?

You a French language person!

Jeffo, I bet I will see many.

Libertarian Socialist/Anarchist (are they not virtually one and the same?)

Libertarian Socialist/Anarchist (are they not virtually one and the same?)Yeah, I dunno which poll option to pick, either...lol.

If I were Prime Minister tomorrow, I'd say democratic socialist, but in the long term, I'd more lean towards libertarian socialism.

I'd say Social-democrat or as I call it sanity

A very sociable socialist.

I wanted to say that!

Libertarian Socialist/Anarchist (are they not virtually one and the same?)

To be really lame: There is a quantum leap from libertarianism to socialism*EDIT: I mean Libertarianism to Anarchism, my bad* (and vice versa). This is because there is still some of the 'state' in libertarianism, no matter how small.

On a different note, the libertarian socialists are losing to the democratic socialists!

BTW, is there any other way to refer to democratic socialists other than that ? Saying Democratic would seem like all others cannot be democratic. Wait, Social Democrat can be one.

At best I think I would be considered Democratic Socialist with statist, speciest, civil/political flexibility.

To be really lame: There is a quantum leap from libertarianism to socialism (and vice versa). This is because there is still some of the 'state' in libertarianism, no matter how small.

Says whom? To my understanding, there is no text recognised by the majority of those who identify with this movement explaining exactly what defines "libertarian socialism".

Unlike Cabra, I'm an anti-social socialist. Although I'm not really that socialist.

Communist, anarchist, and libertarian.

And "libertarian socialist" has been used to describe anarchist socialists for a long time.

Communist, anarchist, and libertarian.

Yes, that's what I consider myself. However, since most Marxists I encounter in person seem eager to tell me that i'm not a communist...or a "semi-revolutionist"... just to spite them, I voted anarchist. :P

A sociopathic socialist.

Democratic socialist, a rather popular choice here.

Well, it once was. We did win the 3rd election and all. ;) But in my opinion anyway it strikes a nice balance when implemented properly. Which never happens. :D

I'm 2/3rds Socialdemocrat and 1/3rd Green.

Says whom? To my understanding, there is no text recognised by the majority of those who identify with this movement explaining exactly what defines "libertarian socialism".

Arg! I mean libertarianism vs anarchism! I was a bit tired (I am still) and didn't proofread. My bad.

Now the full statement makes sense. Huzzah!

Regional/ethnic socialist, I suppose.

BTW, is there any other way to refer to democratic socialists other than that ? Saying Democratic would seem like all others cannot be democratic. Wait, Social Democrat can be one.


hmmm a democratic socialist is different from a social democrat. a democratic socialist would be against capitalism, replacing it with socialism, but this via democratic means.
a social democrat doesn't want to abolish capitalism, they only want some taxes to finance social programs.

personally i think libertarian socialism or anarchism would be the best, but i don't think this will exist in reality. that's why i try to support more realistic goals.

I'm 2/3rds Socialdemocrat and 1/3rd Green.

Thats what I forgot! Enviromental Socialist!

I am a bolshevik-leninist, which basically means trotskyist. I am, however, also influenced by national liberation movements (i.e. Ghana, Vietnam, Burkina Faso, etc.)

How the kind of socialism in China is called? "Capitalistic Socialism"? ;)

I think, I would be this kind of socialist. All the power to the capital!

you'd honestly want to live in china?
i believe they don't have porn there :-o
(and other stuff sucks probably even harder)

How the kind of socialism in China is called? "Capitalistic Socialism"? ;)

I think, I would be this kind of socialist. All the power to the capital!

hmmm a democratic socialist is different from a social democrat. a democratic socialist would be against capitalism, replacing it with socialism, but this via democratic means. A social democrat doesn't want to abolish capitalism, they only want some taxes to finance social programs.

I see the difference (and curse my lack of knowlege in that regard). What would be another term for democratic socialist?

Personally i think libertarian socialism or anarchism would be the best, but i don't think this will exist in reality. that's why i try to support more realistic goals.

What about a semi-statist cogestion economical model? I guess autogestion would be ok....

How the kind of socialism in China is called? "Capitalistic Socialism"? ;)

I think, I would be this kind of socialist. All the power to the capital!

The closest I can get to that is Market Socialist..... too bad they don't seem to show that much in the way of socialism.....

I am a bolshevik-leninist, which basically means trotskyist. I am, however, also influenced by national liberation movements (i.e. Ghana, Vietnam, Burkina Faso, etc.)

So you are communist. A revolutionary communist.

On a different note Democratic Socialists are stagnating whilst the Anarcho-Socialists are powering ahead! No votes for Theocratic Socialists I see, or Statist Socialists. Lots of other, without explaining what that 'other' is...

Now there is a question: How different would you see a State Socialist and Social Statist being?

Libertarian and Democratic Market Socialist.

Given a choice to be a socialist, what kind of socialist would you be?

Given the choice, no sort of socialist slave at all. Color me capitalist green, not slave red. Given the non-choice presented in the OP, a dead one.

Thats what I forgot! Enviromental Socialist!
Hehe, that's why I put it that way. ;)

What on Earth is a libertarian socialist? Does that mean one believes market forces will lead to socialism or that a Marxist revolution will result in a society with no need for government?

I see the difference (and curse my lack of knowlege in that regard). What would be another term for democratic socialist?


i don't think there is another name (it isn't on wiki so ...), if you want to know a little bit more about stuff like that just read on wiki, it might nog be totally acurate, but it's easy and quite interesting.

What about a semi-statist cogestion economical model? I guess autogestion would be ok....


hmmmm i don't know a lot about economics, but i don't really see a different kind of economic system working in the close future (my life for instance). maybe some small changes, but nothing really big.
so i'd rather support ideas that are doable in the short run. the long run is very important too, but i think we should take action now to ensure life in the long run will be fine. that's why i like to focus more on stuff like environmental issues, our social security vs the growing age of people in my country and the situation in the third world instead of some vague ideas about anarchocommunism etc (wich i'm not really sure how valid they are, i only like the ideas of equality with freedom a lot).

What on Earth is a libertarian socialist? Does that mean one believes market forces will lead to socialism or that a Marxist revolution will result in a society with no need for government?

you could start to read here. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Libertarian_socialism)

Given the choice, no sort of socialist slave at all. Color me capitalist green, not slave red. Given the non-choice presented in the OP, a dead one.

You are given a choice to be socialist. There was no mention that you had to be socialist.

Well actually anarcho-socialist would more than likely be a lot more free in civil and political rights than as a U.S capitalist.

Considering that the reds were more a ethnic/regional-communism (for a short time) any other kind of socialism must be fine with you?

What you have to remember is that you are a slave to any ideology a slave to history and a slave to the future.

If I were Prime Minister tomorrow, I'd say democratic socialist, but in the long term, I'd more lean towards libertarian socialism.

Yeah, I'd say that's more or less the same for me...

I would be a sacial democrat, and I need to say, even though anarchists are considered left-wing it doesn't mean they're socialists

You are given a choice to be socialist. There was no mention that you had to be socialist.

Hence my answer.

What you have to remember is that you are a slave to any ideology a slave to history and a slave to the future.

Only if you cling to your self/ego.

Only if you cling to your self/ego.

Meh, your actions dictated by your experience and body (which was dictated by outside enviromental influence throughout your species history) which is in turn affected by all other events...... thats a bit fate-ish isn't it.

P.S Isidoor, whilst autogestion is a common theme of communism but it can still be used for other socialist ways. I am more of a co-gestion person. So I'd be Democratic Socialist (I voted that :> ).

Wow, libertarians have made a comeback!

At the moment, I'm a meritocratic, subjectivist capitalist. So I guess I'd be a meritocratic, subjectivist socialist if I had to be one. If someone can explain how that would work, I'd be grateful.

At the moment, I'm a meritocratic, subjectivist capitalist. So I guess I'd be a meritocratic, subjectivist socialist if I had to be one. If someone can explain how that would work, I'd be grateful.

Hmm. I imagine it'd go something like...

Czardas: I am a meritocratic, subjectivist socialist
Foolish Mortal: But that doesn't make any sense.
Czardas: How do you mean?
FM: The various principles simply don't coincide.
Czardas: They do if I want them to.
FM: But you can't just redefine-
Czardas: *smites*
As I was saying, this is now a meritocratic, subjectivist, socialist society. Any problems with that?

If I were a socialist (which I most certainly am not), I would be a bomb-throwing Trotskyite, not this new pop-culture touchy feely communist type.

Hmm. I imagine it'd go something like...

Czardas: I am a meritocratic, subjectivist socialist
Foolish Mortal: But that doesn't make any sense.
Czardas: How do you mean?
FM: The various principles simply don't coincide.
Czardas: They do if I want them to.
FM: But you can't just redefine-
Czardas: *smites*
As I was saying, this is now a meritocratic, subjectivist, socialist society. Any problems with that?

That or I could take the Humpty Dumpty approach.

"See, a subjectivist is a kind of internet forum.... and socialists are the people who post on them... and meritocratic means believing in merit. Thus, my statement was perfectly true."

"... But Dictionary.com says something else!"

"Up with the revolution against the capitalist tyranny of bourgeois words! Let us liberate words from their old meanings and redefine them to be whatever we want! (Hey, just about every world leader does it!) Dictionary.com is just a tool invented by the aristocracy to oppress the proletariat!"

I would be an Anti-Social Socialist :p

New Socialist here.

I can explain what does that mean, but will only do so if asked.

Isn't that just the british renaming of democratic socialism?

Everyone, don't forget that fans are socialist: They distribute the the temperature so everyone gets a more equal amount.

not a socialist.

That or I could take the Humpty Dumpty approach.

"See, a subjectivist is a kind of internet forum.... and socialists are the people who post on them... and meritocratic means believing in merit. Thus, my statement was perfectly true."

"... But Dictionary.com says something else!"

"Up with the revolution against the capitalist tyranny of bourgeois words! Let us liberate words from their old meanings and redefine them to be whatever we want! (Hey, just about every world leader does it!) Dictionary.com is just a tool invented by the aristocracy to oppress the proletariat!"

*nodnod* That could work well.

I see the difference (and curse my lack of knowlege in that regard). What would be another term for democratic socialist?



What about a semi-statist cogestion economical model? I guess autogestion would be ok....



The closest I can get to that is Market Socialist..... too bad they don't seem to show that much in the way of socialism.....



So you are communist. A revolutionary communist.

On a different note Democratic Socialists are stagnating whilst the Anarcho-Socialists are powering ahead! No votes for Theocratic Socialists I see, or Statist Socialists. Lots of other, without explaining what that 'other' is...

Now there is a question: How different would you see a State Socialist and Social Statist being?

Unfortunately the term "revolutionary communist" has been usurped by the Maoists, and since I don't have a shrine to Bob Avakian in my house, I'm not going to use it.

Bolshevik-Leninist was used by Trotsky to describe the International Left Opposition that arose after Stalin came to power in 1923 (look at some of his articles from the period).

Democratic socialist, but in particular a Welfare State Socialist (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Welfare_state), following the Scandinavian welfare model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scandinavian_welfare_model).

http://sciam.com/article.cfm?chanID=sa006&colID=31&articleID=000AF3D5-6DC9-152E-A9F183414B7F0000

New Socialist here.

I can explain what does that mean, but will only do so if asked.

*doesn't ask*

I would be the kind of socialist who contends that Marx never said anything in his life that didn't amount to verbal diarrhea, but who choses to identify himself as a 'socialist' because he likes the sibilance.

If I were a socialist (which I most certainly am not), I would be a bomb-throwing Trotskyite, not this new pop-culture touchy feely communist type.
Ho hum, I'd probably be the one sipping champagne, pretending not to know you, probably blaming your predicament on an overdose of bourgeois culture. :p Even right-libertarianism has its revolutionary types (e.g. Konkin), which I respect but do not want much to do with.

A free-market non-socialist.

What's a socialist?

What's a socialist?

are you fucking shitting me! :eek: :eek:

If I were a socialist (which I most certainly am not), I would be a bomb-throwing Trotskyite, not this new pop-culture touchy feely communist type.

You can be a bomb-throwing anarcho-communist, too - not all of us are "pop-culture touchy feely."

since I don't have a shrine to Bob Avakian in my house

Not an RCP fan, are you? ;)

Ruffy never shits anyone. Oh no. :p

Tell he was joking when he asked what a socialist was, please!

are you fucking shitting me! :eek: :eek:

Tell he was joking when he asked what a socialist was, please!

Ruffy never shits anyone. Oh no. :p

I was serious. :p

are you fucking shitting me! :eek: :eek:

Ruffy never shits anyone. Oh no. :p

are you fucking shitting me! :eek: :eek:
Surprisingly enough there are actually people out there who do not even know of the word. The other day a friend and I briefly mentioned Marx - the third person in the Economics group we form didn't have a clue who we were talking about. And this is an Economics student!

Surprisingly enough there are actually people out there who do not even know of the word. The other day a friend and I briefly mentioned Marx - the third person in the Economics group we form didn't have a clue who we were talking about. And this is an Economics student!

You slapped him right... or at least went numb for a minute, you had to of. How can you not know about Karl Marx when you are an economics student. HOW?!?

If Socialism has anything to do with Communism, I want nothing to do with it.

If Socialism has anything to do with Communism, I want nothing to do with it.

Do you want me to link you to a site defining the differences between Communism and Socialism? I would be happy to. :D

Do you want me to link you to a site defining the differences between Communism and Socialism? I would be happy to. :D

Yes, please do!

You slapped him right... or at least went numb for a minute, you had to of. How can you not know about Karl Marx when you are an economics student. HOW?!?
Well we were both in a brief state of shock. Explaining to him who Marx was did not do much good either. Strictly speaking Marx was not an economist, nor is he even featured in much of the A-Level Economics, but I would think someone who is gonna study Economics would at least know of him...

Yes, please do!

Here are several:

a: http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/faq/commievssoc.html

b: http://www.marxmail.org/faq/socialism_and_communism.htm

c: http://www.romm.org/soc_com.html

Well we were both in a brief state of shock. Explaining to him who Marx was did not do much good either.

Does he at least have a basic idea of Marxism, and the rise of communism. Or the life of Karl Marx or does he still live in a brutal state of ignorance?

Does he at least have a basic idea of Marxism, and the rise of communism. Or the life of Karl Marx or does he still live in a brutal state of ignorance?
A vague, nebulous idea at best I would imagine. I simply told him to look it up on Wiki. :D

A vague, nebulous idea at best I would imagine. I simply told him to look it up on Wiki. :D

I suppose that is easier than explaining it all to him, it would have taken a while seeing as he apparently had no idea who Marx was. It still amazes me, and economics student not knowing who Marx was...ugh

Here are several:

a: http://www.etext.org/Politics/MIM/faq/commievssoc.html

b: http://www.marxmail.org/faq/socialism_and_communism.htm

c: http://www.romm.org/soc_com.html

I don't think I like Socialism.

I don't think I like Socialism.

It is a difficult system to make work, but some of the underlying points tend to be pretty good...if I had to choose between Capitalism, socialism and communism...I would definatly either choose Capitalism or Socialism; FUCK Communism!

It is a difficult system to make work, but some of the underlying points tend to be pretty good...if I had to choose between Capitalism, socialism and communism...I would definatly either choose Capitalism or Socialism; FUCK Communism!

Well said, though parts of socialism and capitalism can combine, such as market socialism and democratic socialism.

The problem with most major ideologies is that they try to promote the idealistic version without many pragmatic approaches.

That being said, I dislike communism more for its promotion of the removal of the state (I dislike libertarianism and anarchism as well for those reasons) and even more importantly the lack of safety systems designed to stop the rise of total centralism. My version of socialism is a bit odd so I am not one to talk either

Hmm, Democratic socialism has steamed ahead, leaving the libertarians and anarchists behind.

I wonder what the people who want regional/ethnic socialism want in their socialist policies?

!!! A theocratic socialist! I never thought I would get one.

a rich fat one :P

eco-socialist anarcho-pacifist!

hell, i ain't against anything, just against screwing everything up for everyone else.

but if we didn't have the web of life we wouldn't have air to breathe.

unfortunately making everything have to begin and end with little green pieces of paper IS motivating people to screw everything up for each other.

formalized standing hierarchies are pretty much gratuitous and self serving.

the only reason to organize society, and that voluntarily, is to have infrastructure so we can have computers and trains and things, and to keep each other from freezing and starving and so on.

and i'm sorry, but big bussiness is just as buggered as big government.

so is, especialy, putting trying to impress each other ahead of the kind of world we all have to live in. one in which we could all enjoy the real gratifications of creating and exploring.

(i ain't tryin to "remove the state". just not contribute to keeping it going. the parts that don't bennifit anyone anyway. same goes for all that bizdroidism crap)

=^^=
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The "anti-" variety.

If I really have to be a Socialist?

Anarchy ftw.

I am one of those socialists who was raised socialist, like some kids are raised Catholic. It has simply been so ingrained in me that I will probably never come to a point where I am completely free of any por-socilaist bias. I don't really mind, as I am completely aware of my bias, or at least strive to be so.

Having said that, I don't really believe in -isms when it comes to my own political thinking. I like things that work. I am definitely not one of those people who cling to an ideology that has never proven itself in reality, like communism or objectivism or anarchocapitalism. So what has worked? The Scandinavian model has been mostly succesful throughout its history. The Canadian system also has its succesful projects. I would even argue that the Cuban experiment has had some successes.

If you want to look at it more theoretically, I believe that the government has an obligation to act as a check or balance against corporate power, as well as acting as a check on itself, through the use of law. But this government must still respect the rights of its citizens and communities, and must be the minimum size necessary to accomplish the goals stated above. There must be accountability at all levels. Non-economic issues such as gun control should not be mandated by government.

What kind of a socialist am I?

Where is the National Socialist option?

What kind of a socialist am I?
A social democrat/welfare capitalist, I suppose?

A social democrat/welfare capitalist, I suppose?

You can see why I try to avoid -isms.

You can see why I try to avoid -isms.
Well I think the terms I proposed are quite apt for the beliefs you espouse. :) Nothing too confusing about them.

Where is the National Socialist option?

Nazi! \

And this is why.....

*What is National Socialism* Answer! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism

"Reactionary Elements" is probably the group you socialists would stick me in.

The best kind: NOT A SOCIALIST!

You got a problem with socialists? Not that I call my self one, but I would like to know why you don't like socialists; this is what I assumed from your post.

The best kind: NOT A SOCIALIST!

If I really have to be a Socialist?

Anarchy ftw.

Well you could always be an anarcho-socialist (replacing socialist with any specific type of socialism you want).

I am one of those socialists who was raised socialist, like some kids are raised Catholic. It has simply been so ingrained in me that I will probably never come to a point where I am completely free of any por-socilaist bias. I don't really mind, as I am completely aware of my bias, or at least strive to be so.

Having said that, I don't really believe in -isms when it comes to my own political thinking. I like things that work. I am definitely not one of those people who cling to an ideology that has never proven itself in reality, like communism or objectivism or anarchocapitalism. So what has worked? The Scandinavian model has been mostly succesful throughout its history. The Canadian system also has its succesful projects. I would even argue that the Cuban experiment has had some successes.

If you want to look at it more theoretically, I believe that the government has an obligation to act as a check or balance against corporate power, as well as acting as a check on itself, through the use of law. But this government must still respect the rights of its citizens and communities, and must be the minimum size necessary to accomplish the goals stated above. There must be accountability at all levels. Non-economic issues such as gun control should not be mandated by government.

What kind of a socialist am I?

A pragmatic one, usually one of the best/better kinds (just like in any political persuasion). Whilst it is good to have an ideal it is better on having a ideal with ways you can approach that realisticly. Having them already shown to work (or at least parts) is just extra.

Where is the National Socialist option?

Hmmm, the closest one is a Regional/Ethnic socialism. Whilst it can be argued that the Nazis were only a sub fascist there were more a combination of fascism and ethnic socialism.

The best kind: NOT A SOCIALIST!
Riiiight. So what is your political persuasion and what makes it so much better than socialism?

Well you could always be an anarcho-socialist (replacing socialist with any specific type of socialism you want).

Actually, Allanea would probably be just about anything as long as he gets to violently overthrow the government in charge at the time. :D

Actually, Allanea would probably be just about anything as long as he gets to violently overthrow the government in charge at the time. :D

So a constant revolution anarchist?

That, or an anarcho-nihilist. I'd admit that be rather entertaining to watch (could make a it a tv show).

Bolshevik-Leninist-Junglist

I'm an antisocialist :headbang:

Bolshevik-Leninist-Junglist

WHAT?

I'm an antisocialist :headbang:

Why, you cant come on this thread, claim to be anti-socialist and not explain why.

Why, you cant come on this thread, claim to be anti-socialist and not explain why.

You have misplaced the hyphen. I am an antisocial-ist. I don't like to be around people. It's a joke. I rarely post serious answers, because I can take so few of the threads on NSG seriously. Kind of like the people I don't like to be around. Which is why I'm on NSG in the first place, I guess ;)

WHAT?

i'm a bolshevik-leninist who likes a bit of jungle. cause jungle is massive. wiked. wiked.

You have misplaced the hyphen. I am an antisocial-ist. I don't like to be around people. It's a joke. I rarely post serious answers, because I can take so few of the threads on NSG seriously. Kind of like the people I don't like to be around. Which is why I'm on NSG in the first place, I guess ;)

Wait, you can't seriously not like to be around people? You can't seriously be on NSG and take people you don't like? You can't take NSG around people that don't like it?

i'm a bolshevik-leninist who likes a bit of jungle. cause jungle is massive. wiked. wiked.

Wike?

Wait, you can't seriously not like to be around people? You can't seriously be on NSG and take people you don't like? You can't take NSG around people that don't like it?

If I mocked people IRL there would be intolerable repercussions. The repercussions of online mockery are less impactful. So, I come to NSG and post joke answers to "serious" threads that I think are a joke. My goodness goshies! That sounds awfully trollish :(

Bolshevik-Leninist-Junglist

i'm a bolshevik-leninist who likes a bit of jungle. cause jungle is massive. wiked. wiked.

That could also be a primativism there.

i'm a bolshevik-leninist who likes a bit of jungle. cause jungle is massive. wiked. wiked.

bolshevik-leninist = trotskyist?
jungle = music genre?

"Reactionary Elements" is probably the group you socialists would stick me in.

Depends on how you answer this question: "Can the market do no wrong?"

The best kind: NOT A SOCIALIST!

No, IDF's ideology is more like a ethnic-ultranationalism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism)

Well we were both in a brief state of shock. Explaining to him who Marx was did not do much good either. Strictly speaking Marx was not an economist, nor is he even featured in much of the A-Level Economics, but I would think someone who is gonna study Economics would at least know of him...Lemme guess, the A-Level Economics courses don't go further left than Keynes, do they?

Lemme guess, the A-Level Economics courses don't go further left than Keynes, do they?
It doesn't go much further than Keynes, period. Even the Classicals are not given much airtime. :confused:

I'm libertarian Socialist. I only advocate social programs that decrease the size of the government.

No, IDF's ideology is more like a ethnic-ultranationalism. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nazism)

I've seen some of IDF's stuff before.

The funny thing is that national socialism was a mix of degraded-fascism and ethnic-socialism.

I've seen some of IDF's stuff before.

The funny thing is that national socialism was a mix of degraded-fascism and ethnic-socialism.

No, IDF's is more like the '10 jewish fingernails are worth more than 1 gentile' Talmud racism, mixed with a bit of belligerant Zionist ultranationalism.

Is there some kind of techno-socialism that advocates the use of technology and scientific progresss to achieve its goals? A mix between techno-utopianism and libertarian socialism, perhaps?

Is there some kind of techno-socialism that advocates the use of technology and scientific progresss to achieve its goals? A mix between techno-utopianism and libertarian socialism, perhaps?

Maybe like a Marxist e-Democracy, I think your onto someone though as technology is linked with labor and the workforce.

Is there some kind of techno-socialism that advocates the use of technology and scientific progresss to achieve its goals? A mix between techno-utopianism and libertarian socialism, perhaps?
The only movement I can think of is Technocracy, but that is hardly socialist - it's a law unto itself.

Is there some kind of techno-socialism that advocates the use of technology and scientific progresss to achieve its goals? A mix between techno-utopianism and libertarian socialism, perhaps?

Well, I've always thought a future socialist society could take a form in which all industry is automated and runs on renewable energy. Why work when we have computers to do it for us?

The best kind: NOT A SOCIALIST!

Same.

A socially liberal capitalist?
A libertarian socialist?
CrazyHorseLand, AMPW :cool:

Same.
Ditto. :D

Is there some kind of techno-socialism that advocates the use of technology and scientific progresss to achieve its goals? A mix between techno-utopianism and libertarian socialism, perhaps?

There is democratic transhumanism. Links below:

http://www.changesurfer.com/Acad/DemocraticTranshumanism.htm
http://cyborgdemocracy.net/

No, IDF's is more like the '10 jewish fingernails are worth more than 1 gentile' Talmud racism, mixed with a bit of belligerant Zionist ultranationalism.

Well, I have always thought that the ultranationalists of Israel picked up more than some guns from the former Nazi regime.......

Anarchist

One who pretends to be socialist but is actually a capitalist who plunders the money of the real socialists, like the Chinese or North Korean governments.

Champagne Socialist *nods

I'm gonna make my own socialist movement. With blackjack. And hookers. In fact, forget the socialist movement!

It doesn't go much further than Keynes, period. Even the Classicals are not given much airtime. :confused:Wow, really? No Hayek, even?

I'm gonna make my own socialist movement. With blackjack. And hookers. In fact, forget the socialist movement!

Can I join? Although I don't REALLY want a hooker tbh...

Can I join? Although I don't REALLY want a hooker tbh...

We have an opening for blackjack dealers and pimps for the hookers.

We have an opening for blackjack dealers and pimps for the hookers.

Ooh ooh pick me! Can I deal the cards? Do I get a uniform and everything?

Ooh ooh pick me! Can I deal the cards? Do I get a uniform and everything?

Since you're the first dealer I guess I'll let you pick the uniform.

OOOh thank you...did you have a theme in mind? or a look I should aim for?

OOOh thank you...did you have a theme in mind? or a look I should aim for?

Something hot to distract the punters from the fact they're losing all their money.

Something hot to distract the punters from the fact they're losing all their money.

Well...I googled uniforms for ladies and I just got loads of porn...

much of which was very educational, but I doubt if you would want me dressed as a 'naughty nurse' or 'strict school mistress' for work. I need your thoughts on the best choice for distraction.

Well...I googled uniforms for ladies and I just got loads of porn...

much of which was very educational, but I doubt if you would want me dressed as a 'naughty nurse' or 'strict school mistress' for work. I need your thoughts on the best choice for distraction.

I tried googling female blackjack dealers but came up with nothing. Hmmm.

Further googling led to this (http://d.yimg.com/us.yimg.com/p/nm/20061008/2006_10_07t225844_450x314_us_life_playboy.jpg), but that might be a better look for the hookers.

Wow, really? No Hayek, even?
Friedman is lucky if he gets mentioned, let alone Hayek... Even at my university course, there's basically a focus on Keynes, and to some extent Friedman for refutations of the former. My class tutor is a Hayekian though, so it's not all that bad. :D

Champagne Socialist *nods
Yes, if I absolutely had to be socialist, I'd be one of those too. :)

Is there some kind of techno-socialism that advocates the use of technology and scientific progresss to achieve its goals? A mix between techno-utopianism and libertarian socialism, perhaps?

Nearly all forms of anarchism stress the use of techonology for humanistic ends. Very few anarchists are Luddites or primitivists, and most are very supportive of the ethical advancement and use of technology.

Champagne Socialist *nods

zomg Elitist!

Social democrat. I'm not a member of the party but I've always voted for them.

communist

Democratic socialists are still in front...