NationStates Jolt Archive

I'd at first fight to protect the union, then perhaps flee to Canada later if it proved futile... and plan a counter-attack.

Seriously. Why, for the sake of all intelligence, surrender yourself to Communism? It's ridiculously far-fetched and idealistic with no touch to reality. Not only does the idea itself sound silly on its own, but it also has quite the running record of failure. ALL communist societies that last rule out of an iron grip and fear. ALL communist societies who follow the actual view of it result in debilitating failure.

America becoming Communist (which will never happen, anyway) would destroy the country.

Fight against the government? Good luck :)

Can you see from there? *looks into monitor

Yes :)

Very nice by the way. :)

At least you have underwear on for this disturbing thread :)

Can you see from there? *looks into monitor

eat pie

eat pie

Delicious pie?

Ahhh are you that man standing in the corner?
Nope, he's Bill. He likes your feet.

I am glad that you like them, I got them at M&S ;)
I know.


Wow, time waaaaaaarp.

Fight against the government? Good luck :)

Easier to become a member of the secret police, and label your enemies as counterrevolutionaries (even if it's not true), and hang them with piano wire.

Easier to become a member of the secret police, and label your enemies as counterrevolutionaries (even if it's not true), and hang them with piano wire.

And more fun.

Yes :)

Very nice by the way. :)


Ahhh are you that man standing in the corner?

I am glad that you like them, I got them at M&S ;)

capitolist, communist;
terrorists, counter revolutionaries, ...

only the names have been chainged to protect the guilty and obscure who are the innocent and who arn't.

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Looks at top of page....

How did you get up there?

I'd celebrate! But I'd rather see it become socialist, not communist.

Looks at top of page....

How did you get up there?

I have magic powers.

If America ironically became the new soviet union and forced all the gifted down to the average level and destroyed all those who are disabled and too weak to work to make sure everyone was the same what would you do?

I know this has already been said, but what you describe is not communism. What you describe is Khmer Rouge nationalism mixed with Nazism. Not a pretty picture.

I would go underground, gather a number of other veterans, and put our insurgency skills to work. Mwahahahaha! Phear my wrath! :D

Curious how popular insurgency is when it is some 'outside influence' screwing with 'us'... and yet how 'evil' it is when other people take exception to our soldiers gunning them down in the streets and raping them.

Well, if it actually happened, I would run the secret police, and have fun hunting down and killing anyone who pissed me off.


What 'secret police'?

It is quite sad how so few people can differentiate between 'communist' and 'statist totalitarian dictatorship'.

It must be because they are spelled so similarly.

Seriously. Why, for the sake of all intelligence, surrender yourself to Communism? It's ridiculously far-fetched and idealistic with no touch to reality. Not only does the idea itself sound silly on its own, but it also has quite the running record of failure. ALL communist societies that last rule out of an iron grip and fear.


Equally true of capitalism.

ALL communist societies who follow the actual view of it result in debilitating failure.


Which societies followed the 'actual view' of it?

Which societies followed the 'actual view' of it?

Lenin did actually try desperately hard to follow the puritan communist model, he made a few changes to the doctorine but they were more about jumping from fuedalism to socialism and to communism rather then from capitalism as Marx suggested. However Lenin found that it was almost impossible for his government to sustain itself and he had to ban opposition to stay in power, and it just worsened from there...

It is quite sad how so few people can differentiate between 'communist' and 'statist totalitarian dictatorship'.

It must be because they are spelled so similarly.

Yeah, probably the same problem as with mistaking "capitalism" with "exploitation of workers' to satisfy one's greed".

Equally true of capitalism.

But modified forms of pure capitalism are highly successful, especially when combined with a strong government that smooths out the problems of the system; it's hardly coincidental that all of the world's most advanced, wealthiest and freest countries are mixed capitalist nations with commitment to the free market as well as social welfare.

Given the strong anti-socialism bent of US culture, any descent of the States into an authoritarian, antidemocratic regime is more likely to take the form of facism, which is different from communism.

Yeah, probably the same problem as with mistaking "capitalism" with "exploitation of workers' to satisfy one's greed".

It's nothing like that at all. Not all communist models must really on statist control or dictatorship.

All capitalist models must rely on 'exploitation' and 'greed' of some form, because they require ownership (which is intrinsically 'greedy'), and obtaining a set 'value' for items or services produced.

But modified forms of pure capitalism are highly successful, especially when combined with a strong government that smooths out the problems of the system; it's hardly coincidental that all of the world's most advanced, wealthiest and freest countries are mixed capitalist nations with commitment to the free market as well as social welfare.

No - it's far from coincidental that the balance favours capitalism, since capitalist regimes have warred consistently on anything even approaching pure socialism.

It's like saying "it's no surprise all the most influential people in the KKK are white".

Given the strong anti-socialism bent of US culture, any descent of the States into an authoritarian, antidemocratic regime is more likely to take the form of facism, which is different from communism.

And is already happening. Communism would be a new direction, fascism is status quo, now.

Become communist apparently, or help create an army to liberate the great state of New Jersey.

if America became communist, I'd move there

if they became the new USSR, I'd try to join the Party

The day America becomes Communist, I'm going directly to hell. I'm a fan of cold weather.

No - it's far from coincidental that the balance favours capitalism, since capitalist regimes have warred consistently on anything even approaching pure socialism.

And how many pure socialist regimes, or regimes even remotely approaching the idea have there been in history?

Lenin did actually try desperately hard to follow the puritan communist model

Lenin had a specific model and used a specific set of tactics - all of which were heavily criticized by other socialists.

He was also given an awful set of circumstances.

If America ironically became the new soviet union and forced all the gifted down to the average level and destroyed all those who are disabled and too weak to work to make sure everyone was the same what would you do?


One word:

WOLVERINES!

One word:

WOLVERINES!

huh?:confused:

I would travel to America and help with the revolution.

there hasn't been an idiology yet that has proven incapable of harbouring tyranny, nor one that has been implimented as a form of government that hasn't actualy become one.

it's all a lot of smoke and mirrors about a name. like the boggie man.
the other boggie man is always worse then the one you're living under?

meh. gene debs should have been president, but like bfd of how much difference it would have made at the time.

maybe we'd be living in a mellower world now if he had been.

we'll never know, will we?

stalling screwed up marxism
bush screwed up capitolism
hitler screwed up faschism
damd near everybody screwed up absolute monarchism

all a friggin bull shisinze name friggin game

i wouldn't do squat because of some official chainge in name, that without a corrisponding change in society's core values wouldn't in any way shape or manor change a damd signifigant thing.

i'd flip a coin. that's how much better or worse
would be more or less likely to resault from it.

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I'd move to China.

laugh and get $200 worth of bet money.

huh?:confused:

It's a quote from this movie. (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0087985/)

huh?:confused:

not enough opera in u