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Transsexual calls Edwards a "faggot"

Fassigen
03-03-2007, 04:58
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/coulter-edwards/

Seriously, who does this tranny* think (s)he's kidding? Self-hatred is such an awful thing...

*No offence to regular transsexuals. Just the self-hating kind who call others names.
Whereyouthinkyougoing
03-03-2007, 05:26
Previously, Coulter has put “even money” on Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) “[c]oming out of the closet,” said Bill Clinton shows “some level of latent homosexuality,” and called Vice President Al Gore a “total fag.”

Nice. Worst possible insult she can think of, is it?


Oh, and didn't we just have a thread about Romney the other day? Didn't know anything about him then, still don't now. But this: Former Gov. Mitt Romney (R-MA), prior to Coulter’s appearance: “I am happy to hear that after you hear from me, you will hear from Ann Coulter. That is a good thing. Oh yeah!”is making a great first impression.
Kinda Sensible people
03-03-2007, 05:30
She hadn't received any attention in nearly half a year, so she had to do something radical.
Nadkor
03-03-2007, 05:40
So this is a person who, I assume, considers herself to be intelligent and above those she is insulting, yet the best she can come up with is something that sounds immature on a 12 year old?
Bolol
03-03-2007, 05:46
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/coulter-edwards/

Seriously, who does this tranny* think (s)he's kidding? Self-hatred is such an awful thing...

*No offence to regular transsexuals. Just the self-hating kind who call others names.

What do you mean "self-hating"? A transexual technically isn't homosexual since they're now...*looks at link*...Ooooohh...*chuckles*...oh, you!
Demented Hamsters
03-03-2007, 05:51
I guess she's feeling withered and neglected.
Media whores like her waste away if they're not in the spotlight. So she feels she has to say something outrageous to get the focus back on her.
"lookatmelookatmelookatme! pleaseee..."

And you fell for it, Fass. You should be ashamed of yourself.
Kinda Sensible people
03-03-2007, 05:52
So this is a person who, I assume, considers herself to be intelligent and above those she is insulting, yet the best she can come up with is something that sounds immature on a 12 year old?

When has Coulter ever demonstrated anything akin to maturity? This is the same woman who called the 9/11 Widows harpies (or something of the sort).

She just says controvercial things for attention. Ignore her and she will go away.
Deus Malum
03-03-2007, 05:53
What do you mean "self-hating"? A transexual technically isn't homosexual since they're now...*looks at link*...Ooooohh...*chuckles*...oh, you!

Yup, good ol' Dann Coulter.
Pepe Dominguez
03-03-2007, 05:54
Good lesson in how to make the headlines. I'm not a fan, but she entertains.. that's popular punditry, and she's made a mint at it.
Fassigen
03-03-2007, 05:55
I guess she's feeling withered and neglected.
Media whores like her waste away if they're not in the spotlight. So she feels she has to say something outrageous to get the focus back on her.
"lookatmelookatmelookatme! pleaseee..."

And you fell for it, Fass. You should be ashamed of yourself.

And you should rid yourself of the silly notion that I give a shit. I love seeing conservatives make asses of themselves.
Demented Hamsters
03-03-2007, 05:57
And you should rid yourself of the silly notion that I give a shit. I love seeing conservatives make asses of themselves.
you give a shit enough to make a thread about it...
Fassigen
03-03-2007, 05:58
you give a shit enough to make a thread about it...

"Give a shit" was directed at you and your opinion...
Soviet Haaregrad
03-03-2007, 05:58
When Republicans realized they lacked a female voice and couldn't get through to women, they had one of their more vile blowhards get his parts swapped in hopes seeing a woman who was pure evil would convince other women that the darks side might be right for them too.
Darknovae
03-03-2007, 05:59
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/coulter-edwards/

Seriously, who does this tranny* think (s)he's kidding? Self-hatred is such an awful thing...

*No offence to regular transsexuals. Just the self-hating kind who call others names.

She's even more immature than the idiotic middle-schoolers in my town.

"That's soo gay" "he's a total fag" "heheheheeheheheehehe"
:headbang:
Heikoku
03-03-2007, 17:52
So... Not only she's got the maturity of a 11-year old, she also just pointed out to these people that she can't do anything about it? I mean, even if she THINKS Edwards is a "faggot", she can't show enough self-control to refrain from calling him such? Wow.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 17:53
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/coulter-edwards/

Seriously, who does this tranny* think (s)he's kidding? Self-hatred is such an awful thing...

*No offence to regular transsexuals. Just the self-hating kind who call others names.

Lolz.

Nice. Worst possible insult she can think of, is it?

Nice! I can think of better insults than Ann Coulter, and I'm 13. BTW, I call people inbred as an insult.
Fleckenstein
03-03-2007, 17:55
And lo, the cries of *First Amendment* did rise up from the ranks of the unfaithful. And God did smote them for being dickheads.
Neesika
03-03-2007, 18:00
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/coulter-edwards/

Seriously, who does this tranny* think (s)he's kidding? Self-hatred is such an awful thing...

*No offence to regular transsexuals. Just the self-hating kind who call others names.

You're smearing the good name of transsexuals with this comparison. For shame.
Pyotr
03-03-2007, 18:01
And then conservatives like Michelle Malkin bemoan how liberals are full of hate and insanity.

http://www.debbieschlussel.com/archives/unhinged.jpg
Oh the hypocracy.
Neesika
03-03-2007, 18:02
So this is a person who, I assume, considers herself to be intelligent and above those she is insulting, yet the best she can come up with is something that sounds immature on a 12 year old?

That's exactly it.

What a poo-poo head she is.
Eve Online
03-03-2007, 18:03
http://thinkprogress.org/2007/03/02/coulter-edwards/

Seriously, who does this tranny* think (s)he's kidding? Self-hatred is such an awful thing...

*No offence to regular transsexuals. Just the self-hating kind who call others names.

Well, if you're allowed to throw the slurs around, so is she.
Neesika
03-03-2007, 18:04
Difference is, Fass speaks only for himself. Coulter was speaking to conservatives who, by their silence, have given their assent to her characterization.

I think you mean...who, by their applause.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 18:05
And lo, the cries of *First Amendment* did rise up from the ranks of the unfaithful. And God did smote them for being dickheads.

Sorry, but God (if he exists) is a dickhead. Either that or he's banging his head against a wall right now.

:headbang:

(Time warps ahead of Nazz)
Kanabia
03-03-2007, 18:05
Difference is, Fass speaks only for himself. Coulter was speaking to conservatives who, by their silence, have given their assent to her characterization.
Ha. Didn't sound much like silence to me.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:06
Well, if you're allowed to throw the slurs around, so is she.

Difference is, Fass speaks only for himself. Coulter was speaking to conservatives who, by their silence, have given their assent to her characterization.
Ashmoria
03-03-2007, 18:06
Well, if you're allowed to throw the slurs around, so is she.

she should only throw slurs when they make sense. what about edwards screams "faggot"? nothing that i can see.

coutler however does look like man in drag. which is where i part company with fass. i wouldnt call her a transexual, she is a crossdresser.
Dobbsworld
03-03-2007, 18:12
My goal is to starve her for attention. I'm not planning to say anything more on the subject of that grasping, talentless desperate bitch.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:13
she should only throw slurs when they make sense. what about edwards screams "faggot"? nothing that i can see.

coutler however does look like man in drag. which is where i part company with fass. i wouldnt call her a transexual, she is a crossdresser.

Here's Coulter's "logic":
Edwards is a democrat, which makes him a sissy, and by extension, a fag.

That's really all there is to it.
Minaris
03-03-2007, 18:13
Coultergeist is even less intelligent than the idiots at the local middle school.

She's achieved a whole new level of idiocy.

Didn't GWB already do that? :p
Katganistan
03-03-2007, 18:14
If people would just switch away from her station, not buy her books, not go to her speeches, and not buy her doll... (truth!)... she'd fade away.

She's sad.
Darknovae
03-03-2007, 18:15
Here's Coulter's "logic":
Edwards is a democrat, which makes him a sissy, and by extension, a fag.

That's really all there is to it.

Coultergeist is even less intelligent than the idiots at the local middle school.

She's achieved a whole new level of idiocy.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:17
Coultergeist is even less intelligent than the idiots at the local middle school.

She's achieved a whole new level of idiocy.

Sad thing is, she makes a whole lot of money for just that level of discourse. I could do that, but I like being able to sleep at night without the help of narcotics.
Greater Somalia
03-03-2007, 18:22
In the end, it's all about $$$. Left, right, and center, it's all about making quick bucks, hail to capitalism and its wondrous side-effects.
Free Soviets
03-03-2007, 18:23
If people would just switch away from her station, not buy her books, not go to her speeches, and not buy her doll... (truth!)... she'd fade away.

unfortunately, she is the voice of conservatism in america. she ain't just some man off the street, or posting on some unread blog. she got wild cheers at cpac (http://www.cpac.org/), where she was gleefully introduced by a legitimate republican contender for the presidential nom. she shares stages with all of the big players in the authoritarian asshole party all the time - and she uses those shared stages to call for street-level violence against various enemies, like liberals. in fact, she has something of a vital role within the movement, moving the outright fascist agenda and talking points into the 'mainstream' of it.

basically, ignoring her won't work. not unless you can get the ~22% of the population that are fascists-in-waiting to disappear somehow.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 18:24
If people would just switch away from her station, not buy her books, not go to her speeches, and not buy her doll... (truth!)... she'd fade away.

She's sad.

No shit, Sherlock. Am I allowed to say that to a mod?

The sad thing is, this doesn't happen. Ann Coulter shoud be locked up in an insane asylum.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:26
In the end, it's all about $$$. Left, right, and center, it's all about making quick bucks, hail to capitalism and its wondrous side-effects.

Just out of curiosity, which left and center writers make big bucks calling large groups of people traitors and godless, or by describing opposing politicians as fags?
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 18:27
Sad thing is, she makes a whole lot of money for just that level of discourse. I could do that, but I like being able to sleep at night without the help of narcotics.

Lolz.
Pyotr
03-03-2007, 18:35
Isn't she facing charges of voting in the wrong county or something?
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 18:35
Eventually some one will just sue her for slander.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 18:39
Sad thing is, she'd probably win, as she generally goes after public figures, and it's damn near impossible to win a slander suit if you're a public individual.
So can I file a suit against her for emotional distress caused by her consistent immature pissing and moaning.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:40
Eventually some one will just sue her for slander.
Sad thing is, she'd probably win, as she generally goes after public figures, and it's damn near impossible to win a slander suit if you're a public individual.
Pyotr
03-03-2007, 18:45
Sad thing is, she'd probably win, as she generally goes after public figures, and it's damn near impossible to win a slander suit if you're a public individual.

Even if she-who-must-not-be-named had a chance of losing a suit, she'd just settle out of court for pennies.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:48
Even if she-who-must-not-be-named had a chance of losing a suit, she'd just settle out of court for pennies.What would be more likely to happen would be what happened when Sid Blumenthal sued Drudge for slander, and had a case. Drudge got money from deep-pocket conservative backers, and Blumenthal was on his own--Drudge just kept the case in court so long that Blumenthal had to drop it because he couldn't afford it anymore.
Mirkai
03-03-2007, 18:49
If people would just switch away from her station, not buy her books, not go to her speeches, and not buy her doll... (truth!)... she'd fade away.

She's sad.

But I needed that doll to go with my set of pins. :(

Now if I can just get some of her hair..
Pyotr
03-03-2007, 18:52
What would be more likely to happen would be what happened when Sid Blumenthal sued Drudge for slander, and had a case. Drudge got money from deep-pocket conservative backers, and Blumenthal was on his own--Drudge just kept the case in court so long that Blumenthal had to drop it because he couldn't afford it anymore.

Yup, which is why I want to know about those charges of voting in the wrong county, they shouldn't be able to undermine criminal charges brought on by the state.
Nadkor
03-03-2007, 18:53
Sad thing is, she'd probably win, as she generally goes after public figures, and it's damn near impossible to win a slander suit if you're a public individual.

You guys need to get some British style slander/libel laws going.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 18:58
Yup, which is why I want to know about those charges of voting in the wrong county, they shouldn't be able to undermine criminal charges brought on by the state.

Last I read--and I live just south of there, so I still hear about this occasionally--the guy in charge of voting was having trouble finding a Palm Beach DA willing to file charges, he claims, because they're gun shy about going after another high profile person after the whole "Limbaugh came back from the Dominican Republic with a suitcase full of Viagra" story. That's his side of the story and so should be discounted appropriately.
Greater Somalia
03-03-2007, 19:11
Just out of curiosity, which left and center writers make big bucks calling large groups of people traitors and godless, or by describing opposing politicians as fags?

I meant politicians; Coulter is a small fish in an ocean full of sharks. She knows that she's nothing without conservative support. Other political groups also hire nobodies to become their mouthpiece in the media; it’s just that the Republicans have gotten so good at this (trash talking). Democrats need to sharpen their fangs, and the centrist need to grow some :D
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 19:13
You guys need to get some British style slander/libel laws going.

No we don't need more laws against free speech. Comments like what she makes exposes the person making them as an idiot. I would like to know what the person is really thinking. That way I can make a more informed decision on the information they put out for public consumption.
Nadkor
03-03-2007, 19:15
No we don't need more laws against free speech. What comments like what she makes exposes the person making them as an idiot. I would like to know what the person is really thinking. That way I can make a more informed decision on the information they put out for public consumption.

The slander/libel laws here make it necessary that somebody has to be able to back up their statements if they defame somebody. I don't see a problem with that at all.
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 19:21
The slander/libel laws here make it necessary that somebody has to be able to back up their statements if they defame somebody. I don't see a problem with that at all.

We do have defamation of character laws. Which basically says if you are stating a fact that someone is gay and they are not. Of course it then has to be proven that your comment caused that person harm in some way. Then you can use that law against them. Now here is the catch. Most of the time someone says it is my opinion that he/she is a fag. But "opinion" is just that and cannot be considered fact. So if she said in my opinion John Edwards is a fag. Well that is just it. If she said John Edwards a fag and that is a fact. It then caused him harm in some way that can be proved. Well then that would fall into slander.
New Granada
03-03-2007, 19:23
The hag wasnt getting airtime for her "I hate 9/11 widows" viewpoint, so now she's calling john edwards a faggot.

Know anybody who likes this idiot? Good time to end that acquaintance.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 19:38
Ann Coulter is a fucking pus-filled slime-ridden maggot. I hope she dies.

Don't we all?

Oh, and time warp.
Nadkor
03-03-2007, 19:38
We do have defamation of character laws. Which basically says if you are stating a fact that someone is gay and they are not. Of course it then has to be proven that your comment caused that person harm in some way. Then you can use that law against them. Now here is the catch. Most of the time someone says it is my opinion that he/she is a fag. But "opinion" is just that and cannot be considered fact. So if she said in my opinion John Edwards is a fag. Well that is just it. If she said John Edwards a fag and that is a fact. It then caused him harm in some way that can be proved. Well then that would fall into slander.

Well, if we go back to my original point which was in relation to Nazz saying that "it's damn near impossible to win a slander suit if you're a public individual" then it doesn't seem that your laws work so well, whereas in the UK a public individual is perfectly capable of winning libel/slander suits.

The burden of proof is on the defendant; they have to prove that what they said is either a) a fact, b) an opinion that could be held by a reasonable individual, based in fact, and without malice, or c) protected by privilege (Parliamentary or otherwise).

Seems fair enough to me.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 19:39
Well, if we go back to my original point which was in relation to Nazz saying that "it's damn near impossible to win a slander suit if you're a public individual" then it doesn't seem that your laws work so well, whereas in the UK a public individual is perfectly capable of winning libel/slander suits.

The burden of proof is on the defendant; they have to prove that what they said is either a) a fact, b) an opinion that could be held by a reasonable individual, based in fact, and without malice, or c) protected by privilege (Parliamentary or otherwise).

Seems fair enough to me.

I gotta agree with Nadkor.

(Time warps yet again)
Greater Trostia
03-03-2007, 19:40
Ann Coulter is a fucking pus-filled slime-ridden maggot. I hope she dies.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 20:17
No we don't need more laws against free speech. Comments like what she makes exposes the person making them as an idiot.
Free speech needs limits, and what Coulter does isn't free speech, it is insulting people just to insult them - not to entertain or to prove something, just to insult them, and when you add in the fact she does it as a career, what she does isn't exercising her right to free speech, it's character assassination, and unintelligent, immature character assassination at that.
Nadkor
03-03-2007, 20:20
I gotta agree with Nadkor.

As should everyone :)
Desperate Measures
03-03-2007, 20:24
What is not good about being insulted by Ann Coulter? For a politician, it must mean that you have finally arrived on the scene. "Vote for me because Ann Coulter hates me." What more do you really need to know about a guy?
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 20:27
What is not good about being insulted by Ann Coulter? For a politician, it must mean that you have finally arrived on the scene. "Vote for me because Ann Coulter hates me." What more do you really need to know about a guy?

But all those nutjob rightwing pundits like Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly hate anyone who can even be considered opposed to their screw-loose philosophy
Desperate Measures
03-03-2007, 20:30
But all those nutjob rightwing pundits like Coulter, Hannity, Limbaugh, and O'Reilly hate anyone who can even be considered opposed to their screw-loose philosophy

Right. I'm saying that an insult from them should be taken as a compliment and is probably a boost to their image when we all gather round and complain about what they said.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 20:31
Right. I'm saying that an insult from them should be taken as a compliment and is probably a boost to their image when we all gather round and complain about what they said.

You make a basic mistake, "liberal America" isn't the same hive mind that rightwing nutjob America is.
Desperate Measures
03-03-2007, 20:37
You make a basic mistake, "liberal America" isn't the same hive mind that rightwing nutjob America is.

I don't think either one is. I'm just saying that it probably does more to help a politician than it does to hurt them when one of those idiots try to be insulting.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 20:38
I don't think either one is. I'm just saying that it probably does more to help a politician than it does to hurt them when one of those idiots try to be insulting.

Except for the fact liberal America doesn't listen to them, and those that are listening to them will agree with whatever they say.
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 20:40
Free speech needs limits, and what Coulter does isn't free speech, it is insulting people just to insult them - not to entertain or to prove something, just to insult them, and when you add in the fact she does it as a career, what she does isn't exercising her right to free speech, it's character assassination, and unintelligent, immature character assassination at that.

Free speech does have limits already. We do not need to put more on them. I think it's a slippery slope if you start with good intentions on limiting certain speech. It doesn't lead to anything good in the end. From those protesters at funerals,people calling the president a Nazi, from others calling national wars illegal to people calling others fags. However much you may disagree with some statements and find the crude and vile. You have to understand that in order to state your opinions you have to allow others to state theirs. The best way to silence someone you dislike is to not listen to them and encourage others through your free speech to not listen.
Desperate Measures
03-03-2007, 20:41
Except for the fact liberal America doesn't listen to them, and those that are listening to them will agree with whatever they say.

Yes, we do. I'd say the majority of posters in this thread are liberals who are enjoying their bashing of Coulter very much. I know that I am.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 20:42
You make a basic mistake, "liberal America" isn't the same hive mind that rightwing nutjob America is.

Yeah, we're far more likely to slash each other's throats over matters of ideological purity, although you're starting to see rumblings of that in the Republican party now that they've lost Congress. The anti-abortioners and the gay-haters and the immigrant-bashers and the no-taxers all want their guy and aren't willing to compromise--at least not right now.
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 20:42
You make a basic mistake, "liberal America" isn't the same hive mind that rightwing nutjob America is.

Anytime you get far left or right your in for trouble. It is mistake to think that one side is worse then the other. I see alot of far left people out there that are scary.
Deus Malum
03-03-2007, 20:46
Yeah, we're far more likely to slash each other's throats over matters of ideological purity, although you're starting to see rumblings of that in the Republican party now that they've lost Congress. The anti-abortioners and the gay-haters and the immigrant-bashers and the no-taxers all want their guy and aren't willing to compromise--at least not right now.

God I hope there's total dissolution in their future.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 20:47
God I hope there's total dissolution in their future.

Wouldn't bet on it. The two parties in this country are very good at solidifying support when they're down.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 20:51
Anytime you get far left or right your in for trouble. It is mistake to think that one side is worse then the other. I see alot of far left people out there that are scary.

I'm a leftie and I gotta agree with ya.
Neesika
03-03-2007, 20:52
I'm a leftie and I gotta agree with ya.

Some far lefties are scary.

But they still scare me less than the hateful type on the far right.
Teh_pantless_hero
03-03-2007, 20:55
Anytime you get far left or right your in for trouble. It is mistake to think that one side is worse then the other. I see alot of far left people out there that are scary.
Scary, yes, but hive minded?
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 20:57
Scary, yes, but hive minded?

How exactly do you define hive minded?
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 20:57
Some far lefties are scary.

But they still scare me less than the hateful type on the far right.

There is plenty of hate on the left. I don't think either side has a corner on that market.
Eve Online
03-03-2007, 21:04
Scary, yes, but hive minded?

Go read the Daily Kos.
Johnny B Goode
03-03-2007, 21:07
As should everyone :)

It depends on what you say. Hey, I thought you hated me or something. Not that I'm complaining, of course.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 21:07
Go read the Daily Kos.

By all means, go read it--you'll see the anti-definition of hive-minded. You'll see screaming fights, some of which would likely get you banned around here.
Eve Online
03-03-2007, 21:10
By all means, go read it--you'll see the anti-definition of hive-minded. You'll see screaming fights, some of which would likely get you banned around here.

Only because I know right-wing people who post there. It gets them banned soon enough.
Eve Online
03-03-2007, 21:14
Oh, I forgot Nazz. You believe that far right people have a hivemind, never disagree, and get their instructions from Karl Rove and the NRA...
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 21:15
Only because I know right-wing people who post there. It gets them banned soon enough.

The site gets hundreds of thousands of hits a day, and no one has to be a member in order to read both the content and the comments. My comment was directed at anyone who wants to see proof of what you consider a hive mind.

And by the way, it takes massive work to get banned at Daily Kos. You have to be a consistent troll--there are Republicans who have been posting there since the early days and are still around.
Gauthier
03-03-2007, 21:18
Well, the Republicans have blown a golden opportunity to refute that sort of allegation by not disassociating themselves from Coulter.

Hey, if not condemning terrorism with an American Idol-scale pageant 24/7 makes every Muslim in the world a terrorist, it's good for the gander too.
Eve Online
03-03-2007, 21:18
Well, the Republicans have blown a golden opportunity to refute that sort of allegation by not disassociating themselves from Coulter.

Oh, you need a disassociation by the RNC because all Republicans belong to a hive mind...

My point about your beliefs has just been proven by your statement.

You know, the Republicans are Not A Hive Mind. But don't let that change your disturbed vision of reality.
Dobbsworld
03-03-2007, 21:20
Oh, I forgot Nazz. You believe that far right people have a hivemind, never disagree, and get their instructions from Karl Rove and the NRA...

Well, the Republicans have blown a golden opportunity to refute that sort of allegation by not disassociating themselves from Coulter.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 21:25
Oh, you need a disassociation by the RNC because all Republicans belong to a hive mind...

My point about your beliefs has just been proven by your statement.

You know, the Republicans are Not A Hive Mind. But don't let that change your disturbed vision of reality.

Actually, this wasn't a Republican convention, but a Conservative one. Republicans were there, candidates hoping to curry favor. It seems it's the Conservatives who are embracing Coulter's point of view, and where there's overlap, those Republicans who consider themselves part of the Conservative movement.
Gauthier
03-03-2007, 21:27
Do you have a concussion or something?

I just said that if they wanted to be seen to not have a "hive-mind", that they just missed that opportunity by not speaking out. Their actions, or rather their inactions in this matter can be said to be indicative of just such a predisposition.

Earth to DK, over.

This is Kimchi Logic. Not condemning Ann Coulter makes Busheviks individuals, but not condemning Osama Bin Ladin and his ilk makes Muslims a terrorist hivemind.
Dobbsworld
03-03-2007, 21:27
Oh, you need a disassociation by the RNC because all Republicans belong to a hive mind...

My point about your beliefs has just been proven by your statement.

You know, the Republicans are Not A Hive Mind. But don't let that change your disturbed vision of reality.

Do you have a concussion or something?

I just said that if they wanted to be seen to not have a "hive-mind", that they just missed that opportunity by not speaking out. Their actions, or rather their inactions in this matter can be said to be indicative of just such a predisposition.

Earth to DK, over.
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 21:28
Do you have a concussion or something?

Nah, that's just his game--claim that you said something you really didn't and then ask why you hold such a ridiculous view.
Marrakech II
03-03-2007, 21:32
Actually, this wasn't a Republican convention, but a Conservative one. Republicans were there, candidates hoping to curry favor. It seems it's the Conservatives who are embracing Coulter's point of view, and where there's overlap, those Republicans who consider themselves part of the Conservative movement.

I consider myself conservative and do not support Ann Coulter at all. I do support her right to make an ass of herself though. I don't think she is an asset to conservative thinkers out there. I also do not consider myself a Republican either.
Gauthier
03-03-2007, 21:34
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Its not like faggot is a bad word, and she was obviously kidding.

And if she ever said "kike" that would be just Mann Coulter kidding as well?
Soviestan
03-03-2007, 21:35
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Its not like faggot is a bad word, and she was obviously kidding.
Dobbsworld
03-03-2007, 21:38
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Its not like faggot is a bad word, and she was obviously kidding.

Who says faggot isn't a bad word? If she'd jokingly referred to Barack Obama as a ****** would that be okay too?
The Nazz
03-03-2007, 21:40
I consider myself conservative and do not support Ann Coulter at all. I do support her right to make an ass of herself though. I don't think she is an asset to conservative thinkers out there. I also do not consider myself a Republican either.

And I absolutely respect that.
Soviestan
03-03-2007, 21:48
Who says faggot isn't a bad word? If she'd jokingly referred to Barack Obama as a ****** would that be okay too?

Problem is Obama really is black, and Edwards is not gay.
Gauthier
03-03-2007, 21:49
Problem is Obama really is black, and Edwards is not gay.

You're saying Obama being black makes it okay for Mann Coulter to call him a "******"?
Dobbsworld
03-03-2007, 21:55
You're saying Obama being black makes it okay for Mann Coulter to call him a "******"?

I dunno about that, but he is saying it's okay to call people 'faggot'. I can't disagree more strenuously, Soviestan.
Soviestan
03-03-2007, 21:57
You're saying Obama being black makes it okay for Mann Coulter to call him a "******"?

No, Im saying b/c of that it is not ok to call him that. That would just be racist.
Neesika
03-03-2007, 22:02
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Its not like faggot is a bad word, and she was obviously kidding.

This deserves two :rolleyes: :rolleyes: .
Neesika
03-03-2007, 22:03
No, Im saying b/c of that it is not ok to call him that. That would just be racist.

Ah yes. But homophobia is fine.

All clear.:rolleyes:
Dobbsworld
03-03-2007, 22:04
No, Im saying b/c of that it is not ok to call him that. That would just be racist.

As opposed to spuriously calling someone a faggot, which is just being prejudiced in a homey, good ol'-fashioned, garden-variety sort of a way?
Domici
03-03-2007, 22:20
Good lesson in how to make the headlines. I'm not a fan, but she entertains.. that's popular punditry, and she's made a mint at it.

So did minstrels in blackface. She isn't an actress, and the people who pay her bills don't buy her books and attend her events because they think she's this generation's Archie Bunker, they (like she) think that she's this generations Mark Twain.
Kinda Sensible people
03-03-2007, 22:38
As opposed to spuriously calling someone a faggot, which is just being prejudiced in a homey, good ol'-fashioned, garden-variety sort of a way?

Ah Dobbs... Don't you know that it's okay to use a perjorative word for an underrepresented minority, as long as you aren't adressing the term to a member of said minority? Sure, some members of that minority might feel that it's a sign that bigotry is being institutionalized, but they're just being sensitive.

After all, it's not like they've been the topic of millenia of targeted bigotry and outright opression or anything. Silly librul.
Rainbowwws
03-03-2007, 23:26
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. Its not like faggot is a bad word, and she was obviously kidding.

/puke
Faggot also means a bundle of firewood. They started calling gays faggots because they wanted to burn them like firewood.
So when you call someone a faggot you are saying they are gay and should be burned alive.
New Mitanni
04-03-2007, 00:49
What do you mean "self-hating"? A transexual technically isn't homosexual since they're now...*looks at link*...Ooooohh...*chuckles*...oh, you!

A heterophobe from the geographical area that gave the world Christine Jorgenson trying to insult someone by making a false imputation of transsexuality? Now that's a good one :rolleyes:

Props to Ann Coulter for not bending over backwards--let alone forwards--to propitiate the gay lobby and their PC gunsels. You go, girl.
Heikoku
04-03-2007, 01:27
Props to Ann Coulter for not bending over backwards--let alone forwards--to propitiate the gay lobby and their PC gunsels. You go, girl.

So... She's acting like she's 12, she says she CAN'T HELP BUT act like she's 12, and you... applaud her. With a remark homosexuals are said by people like her to make.
Domici
04-03-2007, 01:51
/puke
Faggot also means a bundle of firewood. They started calling gays faggots because they wanted to burn them like firewood.
So when you call someone a faggot you are saying they are gay and should be burned alive.



No. It's a bit more perverse than that.

It comes from the British school system and that story about the dying old man who asked his boys to break a bundle of sticks (a fagot). The proverbial fagot represented strength through unity.

In British schools anyone of means sent their little boys to boarding school. Yes, it is unpleasant for a small boy to be kicked out of his school, but the British thought it was kinder than letting them grow up soft due to being spoiled by having a family.

The schools used the existing hierarchy of boys in successive years as an administrative system. To teach boys leadership, older boys were given authority over younger ones. It was intended to promote strength through unity. They called it "The Fagot System." Back then the name didn't cause giggles.

Whenever men (or boys) of limited maturity and psychological development are left to their own devices to sort out their own hierarchy you are going to get sexual abuse. You get it in the military. You get it in prisons. You get it in summer camp.

You also got it at Eton. So the "Fagot System" created "Fagots." Originally it meant young men trained to enter an administrative system that governed a world wide empire. Eventually that less savory facet of their upbringing became more famous than the more publicized ones.
Domici
04-03-2007, 01:59
There is plenty of hate on the left. I don't think either side has a corner on that market.

Yes. Virtually equal amounts.

Conservatives hate minorities. Liberals hate racism.
Conservatives hate the poor. Liberals hate poverty.
Conservatives hate facts. Liberals hate ignorance.
Conservatives hate sufferers. Liberals hate suffering.
Conservatives hate being right. Liberals hate doing wrong.
Conservatives hate being shown that they're wrong. Liberals hate logic and reason being flushed down the toilet.
Conservatives hate liberals. Liberals hate having to reason with people who see right and wrong in terms of pissing of people they don't like.
Johnny B Goode
04-03-2007, 02:00
A heterophobe from the geographical area that gave the world Christine Jorgenson trying to insult someone by making a false imputation of transsexuality? Now that's a good one :rolleyes:

Props to Ann Coulter for not bending over backwards--let alone forwards--to propitiate the gay lobby and their PC gunsels. You go, girl.

ROFLCOPTER!!!!!

I'm sorry, were you being serious?
The Nazz
04-03-2007, 02:06
I'm sorry, were you being serious?
Sadly, he is. Either that, or he's the greatest Freeper imitation I've ever seen.
Johnny B Goode
04-03-2007, 02:12
Sadly, he is. Either that, or he's the greatest Freeper imitation I've ever seen.

Who the hell is Freeper?
Soheran
04-03-2007, 02:14
Who the hell is Freeper?

One of the highly intelligent, sophisticated, tolerant, and humane members of Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse).
The Nazz
04-03-2007, 02:19
One of the highly intelligent, sophisticated, tolerant, and humane members of Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse).
And a fine lot they are, too.
Johnny B Goode
04-03-2007, 02:23
One of the highly intelligent, sophisticated, tolerant, and humane members of Free Republic (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/browse).

Thank you.
Andaras Prime
04-03-2007, 02:26
Yes. Virtually equal amounts.

Conservatives hate minorities. Liberals hate racism.
Conservatives hate the poor. Liberals hate poverty.
Conservatives hate facts. Liberals hate ignorance.
Conservatives hate sufferers. Liberals hate suffering.
Conservatives hate being right. Liberals hate doing wrong.
Conservatives hate being shown that they're wrong. Liberals hate logic and reason being flushed down the toilet.
Conservatives hate liberals. Liberals hate having to reason with people who see right and wrong in terms of pissing of people they don't like.

QFT.
Deus Malum
04-03-2007, 04:31
Thank you.

This is a bit off topic, but I'm honestly curious: How are you this fricking literate for a 13 year old?

Shouldn't you be out being a vagabond at your age?
New Mitanni
04-03-2007, 04:52
Conservatives hate seeing minorities trapped on the liberal plantation. Liberals hate racism unless it's directed at white male Americans.
Conservatives hate buying votes from the poor. Liberals hate doing anything effective to end poverty.
Conservatives hate the DLM misrepresenting the facts. Liberals hate doing anything about their own ignorance.
Conservatives hate government programs that create more sufferers. Liberals hate making it easier for people end their own suffering.
Conservatives hate being lied about when they're right. Liberals hate people who expose them when they're doing wrong.
Conservatives accept being shown that they're wrong. Liberals are usually present when logic and reason are being flushed down the toilet.
Conservatives hate arguing with power-obsessed, self-righteous, arrogant, know-it-all liberals. Liberals hate having to reason with people.

Corrected.

BTW: your proctologist just called. He said he found your head.
Deus Malum
04-03-2007, 04:53
Corrected.

BTW: your proctologist just called. He said he found your head.

Yay, more worthless ad hominem. *vomit*
New Mitanni
04-03-2007, 04:54
I'm sorry, were you being serious?

Serious as a heart attack, Sparky :D
Hamilay
04-03-2007, 04:54
Conservatives hate being right
What? :confused:
New Mitanni
04-03-2007, 04:54
Yay, more worthless ad hominem. *vomit*

Like attracts like, it would seem.
The Nazz
04-03-2007, 04:56
Corrected.

BTW: your proctologist just called. He said he found your head.

Like I said--he's a perfect example of a Freeper.
Deus Malum
04-03-2007, 04:57
Like attracts like, it would seem.

Not really. I'm not insulting you, merely pointing out that your use of an outdated style of "debate" is getting this situation nowhere. I'm also fairly drunk, at the moment, and DID just throw up.
Demented Hamsters
04-03-2007, 05:47
"Give a shit" was directed at you and your opinion...
Oh yes. I forgot: Anyone who doesn't immediately agree with everything you say and toady up to you, thus feeding your (very much undeserved) bloated sense of self-importance has, by definition, an opinion not worthy of consideration.
You're that perfect.

Silly me for forgetting that.
But then I've always found it surprisingly easy to ignore and forget pompous egoistic popinjays .
Dobbsworld
04-03-2007, 06:38
But then I've always found it surprisingly easy to ignore and forget pompous egoistic popinjays .

Considering how often you post, you must have a head like a sieve.
Europa Maxima
04-03-2007, 06:46
She does not even look like a transexual. Her alleged opinions (usually nonsense she conjures up to draw attention and enrich herself) may be revolting, but that does not change the fact that she looks nothing like a man. She isn't even ugly!

What is peculiar though is the fact that Victoria Silvstedt, with her square jaw, has gotten into Playboy (admittedly with much editing though, to make her look more round-faced and slutty):

http://www.thehairstyler.com/images/celebrity/Celebrity_548.jpg

Still not man-like, but she could cut diamonds with that jaw of hers...
Europa Maxima
04-03-2007, 06:50
We're talking about Ann Coulter, not whoever you're going on about. Please try again.
If you had even half a brain, you'd realise the first half of my post was related to her. Now shut up.
The Nazz
04-03-2007, 06:52
If you had half a brain, you'd realise the first half of my post was related to her. Now shut up.

Look at the Adam's Apple. There all your questions will be answered.
CthulhuFhtagn
04-03-2007, 06:52
She does not even look like a transexual. Her alleged opinions (usually nonsense she conjures up to draw attention and enrich herself) may be revolting, but that does not change the fact that she looks nothing like a man.

What is peculiar though is the fact that Victoria Silvstedt, with her square jaw, has gotten into Playboy (admittedly with much editing though, to make her look more round-faced and slutty):

http://www.thehairstyler.com/images/celebrity/Celebrity_548.jpg

Still not man-like, but she could cut diamonds with that jaw of hers...

We're talking about Ann Coulter, not whoever you're going on about. Please try again.
Europa Maxima
04-03-2007, 06:52
Look at the Adam's Apple. There all your questions will be answered.
I demand proof! :p
The Nazz
04-03-2007, 06:54
I demand proof! :p

Dude, I may live forty miles from her, but that's about as close as I want to get. No way am I getting within range of finding out if she's taping it back or not.
IL Ruffino
04-03-2007, 06:56
I demand proof! :p

http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg
Europa Maxima
04-03-2007, 07:03
http://www.rawilson.com/images/coulter.jpg
Hardly THAT prominent. :)
Ann Coulters Ideology
04-03-2007, 07:22
Hardly THAT prominent. :)

Thank you for defending me.
Europa Maxima
04-03-2007, 07:24
Thank you for defending me.
Eh, one thing - I am not a fan of Ms Coulter's actual opinions (even though she can be funny). She does not look like a man though, nor is she ugly.

Translate "she" into "you" if that's your fetish.
Ann Coulters Ideology
04-03-2007, 07:28
Eh, one thing - I am not a fan of Ms Coulter's actual opinions (even though she can be funny). She does not look like a man though, nor is she ugly.

Translate "she" into "you" if that's your fetish.

Well I have expressed my opinion in my first post, but it seems with this new "feature" Jolt has, you wont see it until it is approved.
Domici
04-03-2007, 07:46
Conservatives hate seeing minorities . Liberals hate racism.
Conservatives hate votes from the poor. Liberals hate poverty.
Conservatives, misrepresenting the facts. Liberals hate ignorance.
Conservatives love government programs that create more sufferers. Liberals hate conservatives making people "end their suffering."
Conservatives hate being lied about when they're right (and are fortunate that those two events almost never occur together). Liberals hate people who expose them when they're doing wrong (which is why they laugh just as hard when the Daily Show mocks liberals).
Conservatives accept being shown that they're wrong.(I can't fix this bit. My processor shuts down when I highlight it. Something about machines not being able to process the absurd) Liberals are usually present when logic and reason are being flushed down the toilet (because they're arguing with the conservatives who are doing it).
Conservatives hate arguing with power-obsessed, self-righteous, arrogant, know-it-alls. They prefer BEING power-obsessed, self-righteous, arrogant, know-it-alls Liberals hate not getting to reason with people.

Corrected.
BTW: your proctologist just called. He said he found your head.


Dubya's Proctologist called. He found yours.
The Most Glorious Hack
04-03-2007, 08:52
.
Main Entry:
iro·ny
Pronunciation:
\ˈī-rə-nē also ˈī(-ə)r-nē\
Function:
noun
Inflected Form(s):
plural -nies
Etymology:
Latin ironia, from Greek eirōnia, from eirōn dissembler
Date:
1502

1: a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning —called also Socratic irony2 a: the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b: a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c: an ironic expression or utterance3 a (1): incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2): an event or result marked by such incongruity b: incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play —called also dramatic irony tragic irony