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My idea of heaven is part Shenandoah Valley:
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Part this city:
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and part this airplane ride :D:
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My idea of hell?
Detroit :p


Seriously My idea of heaven is probably the first two things I mentioned, plus a nice field of flowers...a bright blue ocean/sea nearby, and just wildlife all around

and my serious idea of hell is a place of isolation.. no one around...no light...total agony. And it is hot enough to make you constantly miserable.

Heaven is endless void and rest where there is infinite knowledge and infinite time to enjoy it.

Hell is perpetually drowning in ignorance and suffocation.

I don't have a concept of heaven... not really...

But I think hell would simply be eternal existence of any sort. No matter what was involved, it would get boring and you'd go insane. I was thinking about this the other day when I was thinking about how people in stories make wishes (as from a genie) and it never turns out right.

Well, imagine you wish to be immortal. Yay, you are immortal! But it would actually suck. What if you wanted to die? I mean sure, you might not want to this millennium or the next, but what about the one after? What about in millions of years, and all humanity is extinct? You'd be a gibbering, insane wreck. What about billions of years from now, when the sun explodes? You'd be vaporized matter drifting helplessly in space... but being immortalt, you wouldn't be able to die. You'd still be aware of everything, how cold it is, how hot the radiation is, as you drifted for the rest of eternity.

NOT FUN. In fact, that would be my idea of hell. Not being able to die. I could get cancer, and it'd grow and grow but I wouldn't die. I could get my arms chopped off, but I'd survive and have to make do with my legs for the next five or six billion years. Ugh. Count me out.

No, heaven is in the moment. Heaven is fleeting and ephemeral.

Heaven is endless void and rest where there is infinite knowledge and infinite time to enjoy it.

Hell is perpetually drowning in ignorance and suffocation.

Oh, I like that idea :)

Heaven is truth and friendship for all eternity. As well as any kind of sex you want at any time with anyone. Heaven's badass.

And I don't believe in hell.

Minton's Playhouse, except I have the chops to hang there and there is a studio and movie theater attached and an arcade.


Hell would be stuck in a world where I have to answer to people who I also have to explain things to. It's a place I visit a lot...

I believe we aren't supposed to fully know what is beyond our life as of now. I'll know when I get there. Plus, I don't believe in hell.

It could depend for different people. Some people may move on to the beyond, some may have to live more lives to learn what is needed to enter the beyond, and some might cease to exist in any way.

My idea of heaven pretty much falls in line with the Christian beliefs. Eternal paradise.
I've been to a few heavenly places...mostly mountain ranges. On Pen Y Fan, in the Brecon Beacons in Wales, my walking group watched the sunrise from nearly 1000 metres up. And in Snowdonia, in Wales, on Mt. Tryffyn, we went just above the clouds at the top. If any of you have seen Matrix:Revolutions, (the third one), the scene where Trinity and Neo get just above the clouds in their ship above the Machine City - it was almost like that.

My idea of hell? Will and Grace.

I think I shall quote one of my favorite philosophers on this matter:
"Hell is other people. Heaven is killing them with an axe."

I'd imagine that the beer/no beer dichotomy works here.

I think I shall quote one of my favorite philosophers on this matter:
"Hell is other people. Heaven is killing them with an axe."

You wouldn't happen to be a follower of Ted Bundy, would you? :eek:

Given the choice between most people's concepts of heaven and my concept of hell, I'll take my hell. No point in living someone else's dream.

Heaven for me is this - all food that I love without any adverse effects on my health, appearance, or breath...all persistent physical ailments cured...and, of course, it would be modeled after Hawaii.

Hell is the exact opposite - a constant, unpleasant situation that is unable to be escaped, to the point where ending it in a horrible manner is preferable but impossible...as if your leg is caught in a bear trap but it is physically impossible to amputate your leg, remove the trap, or destroy the nerves in your leg...and it would probably be modeled after Ohio, where I live.

Hell; modern suburbia/inner city/ grinding poverty

Heaven; Rural Tuscany, but always sunny and nice, or an eternal countryhouse/manor.

Well, if I were creating heaven and hell, the places themselves would be identical. The pleasantness or unpleasantness would come from the people you had to share it with. So, good people would only have to meet other good people. Bad people would have to put up with other bad people for eternity.

Given the choice between most people's concepts of heaven and my concept of hell, I'll take my hell. No point in living someone else's dream.

Heaven for me is this - all food that I love without any adverse effects on my health, appearance, or breath...all persistent physical ailments cured...and, of course, it would be modeled after Hawaii.

Hell is the exact opposite - a constant, unpleasant situation that is unable to be escaped, to the point where ending it in a horrible manner is preferable but impossible...as if your leg is caught in a bear trap but it is physically impossible to amputate your leg, remove the trap, or destroy the nerves in your leg...and it would probably be modeled after Ohio, where I live.

I believe Hobbes (the stuffed tiger form the glorious cartoon strip Calvin & Hobbes, not the political philosopher) described Hell as "Pittsburgh".

"And a minister said his vision of hell,
was three folk singers in a pub near Wells"

Many cookies for the (very obscure) reference. It just came up on iTunes as I saw the title.

Heaven:

The Most Comfortable Armchair in the Universe
The Largest TV in the Universe
The Most Powerful Computer in the Universe
The Most Powerful Video Game Console in the Universe

An Endless Supply of Snacks
The Universe's Greatest Frat Party Just down the Block

And...

Beautiful Women

Hell:

Endlessly Looping Pop-Music...backwards...

Heaven is watching a reality show where seven people are locked in a house with me for a month. :)

Hell is being one of the seven people. :D

You wouldn't happen to be a follower of Ted Bundy, would you? :eek:
:confused:
Bundy was a strangler, as far as I know he never touched an axe.
The Servant Girl Annihilator (of Austin, Texas), now there was a man with a plan, an axe and a Hell of a name.

My idea of Heaven is basically getting to spend the rest of eternity learning everything there is to know, as well as being able to create my own world and work it how I wish.

My idea of Hell is oblivion, and/or ceasing to exist as a singular Self.

i don't really believe in heaven or hell but to me heaven would be a place where my fantasy/wishes would be reallity and hell would probably be eternal torture, i don't think it can get worse than eternal torture.

For me, Heaven would be just me, free to wander the Earth without the need for food, sleep and finance.
With the ability to fly maybe.
I do so like to travel.

Hell would be a bunch of chavs and other dickheads putting things like white hot coals up my urethra whilst laughing.

My idea of heaven? Really, I have no idea.

My idea of hell? If you've ever heard the saying "Hell on Earth," well, that's what I consider hell.

Heaven: Realizing that you don't have to give a damn about stupid ignorant people.

Hell: Realizing that stupid, ignorant people are everywhere, and they want your vote...

In heaven,
The cars are German.
The food is French.
The cops are British.
Your lover is Italian and your banker is Swiss.
Hell,
The cops are German
The cars are French
The food is British
Your lover is Swiss and your banker is Italian

plain and simple

I actually think that Heaven is this nice quiet and peaceful place where there is no suffering, no pain, no hate, no wars or anything.

Hell, is the polar opposite of Heaven.

Yeah, but every time I hear that, I think "God, that's so boring." I really don't want to spend the rest of eternity sitting around campfires singing kumbaya. I want to spend the rest of eternity in the pursuit of knowledge, and possibly ways to blow things up.

Well, ever see Bill and Ted's awesome adventure where they went to Heaven? That's what I think it'd be like.

I actually think that Heaven is this nice quiet and peaceful place where there is no suffering, no pain, no hate, no wars or anything.

Hell, is the polar opposite of Heaven.

Yeah, but every time I hear that, I think "God, that's so boring." I really don't want to spend the rest of eternity sitting around campfires singing kumbaya. I want to spend the rest of eternity in the pursuit of knowledge, and possibly ways to blow things up.

Heaven - nonexistance.
Hell - nonexistance.

Heaven is endless void and rest where there is infinite knowledge and infinite time to enjoy it.

Hell is perpetually drowning in ignorance and suffocation.

I see. So the Christians have it backwards :D

I see. So the Christians have it backwards :D

He's actually basically got (if I'm not mistaken) the Hindu/Buddhist conception of Heaven/Hell. Hell is earth, with all its wars and suffering and petty problems.

Heaven - energy and consciousness

Hell - Our current existence.

Heaven is twenty minutes in bed with me baby.

My understanding of heaven is pretty unusual. It doesn't involve sex with a bunch of virgins, angels playing classical instruments and singing beautiful praises to God, or even a pastoral environment of peace and tranquility.

In my view, heaven is a full participation in the deep and integrated good. It is a relationship with wholeness, a being whole as a result of that relationship.

On the other hand, hell is a full participation in the shallow and fragmented evil. It is a relationship with brokenness, a being broken as a result of that relationship.

Both hell and heaven are choices that we make, states of existence which we can choose to participate in, a relationship to that which we foster by our thoughts and actions.

Hell:

Endlessly Looping Pop-Music...backwards...

There you got it wrong, it's only like the 15 seconds of the pop song "Sexy Back" where he says "I'm bringing sexy back . . . Yeah!"

Also, it could have an American Idol contestant either singing along, or dubbed over the actual track so you'd only hear his horrifying, off-key, off-beat voice, and those few seconds would be repeating endlessly, only getting louder as you try to drowse.

And as for Heaven? Of all the heavens currently in production, past or present, I'd have to say that the Norse view is the most attractive. Each day is a battle, and at the end of the day you go to the big hall and have mead served to you by Valkyries.

My understanding of heaven is pretty unusual. It doesn't involve sex with a bunch of virgins, angels playing classical instruments and singing beautiful praises to God, or even a pastoral environment of peace and tranquility.

In my view, heaven is a full participation in the deep and integrated good. It is a relationship with wholeness, a being whole as a result of that relationship.

On the other hand, hell is a full participation in the shallow and fragmented evil. It is a relationship with brokenness, a being broken as a result of that relationship.

Both hell and heaven are choices that we make, states of existence which we can choose to participate in, a relationship to that which we foster by our thoughts and actions.

So does that mean that neither is truly a punishment, in the sense that one has to make a conscious choice for one or the other?

So does that mean that neither is truly a punishment, in the sense that one has to make a conscious choice for one or the other?

Correct. You see, to someone who wants to participate in the good, hell would seem a punishment because it is antithetical to their goal, but to someone who wants to participate in the evil, hell is the fulfillment of their goal, and cannot be a punishment.

Correct. You see, to someone who wants to participate in the good, hell would seem a punishment because it is antithetical to their goal, but to someone who wants to participate in the evil, hell is the fulfillment of their goal, and cannot be a punishment.

What about the middle road?

What about the middle road?

You get hit by an interdimensional truck.

What about the middle road?

That's where most of us are, my friend. And those who actively seek balance between the good and the evil find themselves in limited participation with both, having the fullness of neither. But that is hardly a punishment for them, as it is what they seek.

That's where most of us are, my friend. And those who actively seek balance between the good and the evil find themselves in limited participation with both, having the fullness of neither. But that is hardly a punishment for them, as it is what they seek.

But the way you put it, it seemed like heaven and hell were eternal states following death for those who had devoted themselves to one side or the other. Without a third eternal option, where do we stand?

Non existent.

Heaven and Hell are exactly the same. Everyone is seated 8 feet from a cauldron of soup. Everyone is equipped with a 10-foot spoon. In Hell, everyone tries to feed themselves. In Heaven, everyone feeds each other.

(There's also a great Zen story about Heaven and Hell, but I'm not telling)

I've been to heaven. It was glorious, the sun was shining, I went up skiing with my dad, best friend and my brother. On whistler British Columbia, often claimed to be the best ski resort in North America. So it's june and it's warm, I'm skiing in a sweatshirt and sweats, the snow is soft and the place is empty. We get up to the roundhouse (which is whistler's mountain top eatery place) and they have a bbq going on outside with kicking music, and beer, and the girls are wearing bikini tops. Let's recap = glorious views on the mountain, sun shining, warm, skiing,no lift lines,beer, bbq, girls in bikini tops, and I'm with my closest family and friend. I really don't see how this situation could be approved upon.
that was pretty awesome but the real heaven is the beatific vision, which is glorious in all of gods eternal majesty. Hell, I've been there too, it's called Ontario.
the real hell is probably some sort of eternal torture.

In heaven, video games are always free, always in stock, always 10/10, and always spouting new versions.

In hell, AOL is the only ISP, the only video games available are N-Gage games, a copy of Superman 64 must be purchased every day, and Bush is Emperor of the World.

Many clouds floating about but lush green fields with meadows and flowers the smell of nectar in the air.
Fit young women serving me.
Hell.
Fire and Brimstone, red, smells of carrion, Avril Lavigne soundtrack in the background

Heaven: ice-cold beer and red-hot women
Hell: red-hot beer and ice-cold women ;)

My idea of heaven and hell is present in my IC Characters.

Heaven is becoming one with the Omnisource. God, Allah, Buddah, Zeus, whatever you want to call him/her/it. The one true source of all things, and joining with it, it is, beyond any explaination any of us could possibly dream up. Not even Heaven comes close to describing how wonderful it is, nor does this sentence.

Hell is The Void, the complete ceasation of existing, and having to share it with an insane deranged being hellbent on destroying everything that exists, and torturing you for its own amusement in the process. since you do not exist, you cannot die, therefore it never ends, and there is no limit to what can be done to you.

heaven for me is a place where drugs have no side effects and are all non-addictive and free, a place with mountains, beaches, forests and savannah all together, a place with only dirt roads (miraculously maintained), a place where all the cars produce no polution and yet still go really fast and have a decent exhaust note, a place where sleep comes instanty without fear, a place where sleep is only necessary when you've run out of things to do, a place where the internet never crashes and computers upgrade their hardware all by themselves to run the best games, a place where the best recipes and the best ingredients are at my fingertips, a place where all the best music is freely distributed at the best quality, a place where shaving doesn't cut and every hairstyle is the best yet, a place where a new and witty cat with caption picture is devised everyday, a place where the surf is always perfect and the beaces always clean, a place where the beds never give me back ache, a place where my friends are all around and always free to hang out, a place where we all do what we love, a place where intimacy isn't scary and sex doesn't make a mess, a place where clothes never need washed and self-cleaning ovens do what they say on the tin, a place where there is always a new micro-brewery or distillery or vineyard, a place where cigarrettes were never invented and perfect cigars grow on trees, a place where cigar smoke is pleasant for everyone, a place where the only side effect of cigars is a gravelly voice, a place without beer breath and ash-tray mouth, a place where batteries never run out, a place where learning curves are steady and easy to start, a place where motivation is not an issue, a place where inspiration is a step away, a place where paranoia is unheard of, a place where mirrors don't distort, a place where construction takes a day and doesn't start til after 11am, a place where a bad mood can be sent away instantly with one pill, a place where exercise isn't boring, a place where muscle doesn't disappear once you stop trying to build it, a place where the sunset is always beautiful and waking up for the sunrise is always easy, a place where the hot water never runs out, a place where everyone speaks my language and i speak everyone elses, a place where thought start and continue to the end in one easy process and not in fits and starts, a place where every process has a conclusion, a place where the thermostat knows how i feel, a place where i don't need to remember to lock the front door, a place where the cornershop is really on the corner, a place where the bakery is right next to the corner shop and the delicatessen is the next along, a place where 'work' does not exist but vocations abound, a place where irn bru is on tap, a place where art is more important than the artist, a place where scientific discoveries are instantly made public and never put up for sale, a place where in can take a tram or bus wherever i like, a place where everyone is beautiful and so am i, a place where people are not afraind of death, a place where i can die as soon as i get old, a place where a pair of socks does not exist, a place where buttons are always shiny, a place where difference is celebrated, a place where photo ops only happen when i have my camera with me, a place where 2 stories is the maximum but every home has a beautiful view, a place with lots of waterfalls, a place where i can touch the stars and find the end of the rainbow, a place where my space never becomes messy, a place where blutac doesn't mark the walls, a place without divorce, a place where nothing breaks or wears out or jams, a place where i can jump 50ft feet in the air, a place where every bannister can be slid down,a place where competing ideologies are all right and have no contradictions, a place with no gods.

hell is life.

Heaven. . . my idea of heaven is quite simple: a place to rest, i'm only 19 y/o, too young to feel tired of life (which i'm not) however, most people will agree that modern-day life is tiresome for some people. This heaven should be the perfect place, no more suffering, nor trials, for you have finally arrived at the end of all things.

Hell. . .(aka Mexico City the place in which i live) well Dante gave a brief description of my idea of hell, however no one really knows if this hell is like we are told, full of fire, demons, etc. I do believe however that either hell or heaven are here on earth, depending on the actions that one takes.

For example, right now i'm nervous for some wrong deeds i've been doing recently . . . dunno when i'm going to feel at peace again.