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Truthers, or Lack of Evidence is Evidence...

Eve Online
02-03-2007, 18:59
Since this site is down, I'll repost it here so we can read it:

http://www.websurdity.com/2007/02/28/uncomfortable-questions-was-the-death-star-attack-an-inside-job/

We’ve all heard the “official conspiracy theory” of the Death Star attack. We all know about Luke Skywalker and his ragtag bunch of rebels, how they mounted a foolhardy attack on the most powerful, well-defended battle station ever built. And we’ve all seen the video over, and over, and over, of the one-in-a-million shot that resulted in a massive chain reaction that not just damaged, but completely obliterated that massive technological wonder.

Like many Americans, I was fed this story when I was growing up. But as I watched the video, I began to realize that all was not as it seemed. And the more I questioned the official story, the deeper into the rabbit hole I went.

Presented here are some of the results of my soul-searching regarding this painful event. Like many citizens, I have many questions that I would like answered: was the mighty Imperial government really too incompetent to prevent a handful of untrained nerf-herders from destroying one of their most prized assets? Or are they hiding something from us? Who was really behind the attack? Why did they want the Death Star destroyed? No matter what the answers, we have a problem.

Below is a summary of my book, Uncomfortable Questions: An Analysis of the Death Star Attack, which presents compelling evidence that we all may be the victims of a fraud of immense proportions.


Uncomfortable Questions about the Death Star Attack

The cover of Uncomfortable Questions: An Analysis of the Death Star Attack


1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?

2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why?

3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?

4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star?

5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?

Emperor Palpatine fails to act after being informed of the attack


6) How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained?

7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?

8) How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star?

In consideration of this parody, and in consideration of the "Truther" movement, which claims that 9/11 was some ultimate conspiracy, do you think that there is just too much "conspiracy thought" in the world nowadays?

I mean, do Jews really run the world, or are some people just too fascinated with the idea that a completely secret cabal of people could organize and execute just about any fanciful conspiracy you can imagine?
Eltaphilon
02-03-2007, 19:09
do you think that there is just too much "conspiracy thought" in the world nowadays?

Not as long as I have my trusty tinfoil hat!

So yes.
Compulsive Depression
02-03-2007, 19:21
In consideration of this parody, and in consideration of the "Truther" movement, which claims that 9/11 was some ultimate conspiracy, do you think that there is just too much "conspiracy thought" in the world nowadays?

I mean, do Jews really run the world, or are some people just too fascinated with the idea that a completely secret cabal of people could organize and execute just about any fanciful conspiracy you can imagine?

I think it's a good thing that people are questioning authority. It's a shame that some of those who do are portrayed as tinfoil-hat-wearing nutcases, but, frankly, some of them are. And they're picked on to tar anyone with similar views.

I'd be surprised if some of the less-daft conspiracy theories aren't actually true, but did <insert terrorist attack here> get carried out by <insert government here>? As convenient as the attacks have been for the UK and (particularly) the US governments, I reckon both are too incompetent to actually commit them and get away with it.
But do I think either would have done it if they could get away with it, in order to further their agendas? Damn straight.

Of course, their incompetence could just be them pretending...
Greater Trostia
02-03-2007, 19:35
I mean, do Jews really run the world

Yes they do!

Along with everyone else, but whatever.
Eve Online
02-03-2007, 19:37
Yes they do!

Along with everyone else, but whatever.

Hey, isn't it your 91 year old great-grandfather Shmuel who runs the world?
JuNii
02-03-2007, 19:38
first.. some points to cover.

1) Why were a handful of rebel fighters able to penetrate the defenses of a battle station that had the capability of destroying an entire planet and the defenses to ward off several fleets of battle ships?
wrong, it was a battle fleet. Granted if you don't watch the remake, they only show a handfull of fighters. but if you rewatch the security tapes (video) you notice that Lord Vader tells one pilot that "a Small group of fighters broke away from the main fight." thus the focus is only on that small group of fighters.

2) Why did Grand Moff Tarkin refuse to deploy the station’s large fleet of TIE Fighters until it was too late? Was he acting on orders from somebody to not shoot down the rebel attack force? If so, who, and why? he was expecting the station's defense guns and deflector sheilds to keep the fighters at bay.

after they penetrated the defense sheild, the fighters were deployed. the speed of their deployment shows that they were ready to scramble.

3) Why was the rebel pilot who supposedly destroyed the Death Star reported to be on the Death Star days, maybe hours, prior to its destruction? Why was he allowed to escape, and why were several individuals dressed in Stormtrooper uniforms seen helping him?when the tracking device was found on the Millinium Falcon, the ship responsible for the rescue of the Princess, it was determined that they allowed the pilot, and his mercenary team to escape to find their training camp.

4) Why has there not been an investigation into allegations that Darth Vader, the second-ranking member of the Imperial Government, is in fact the father of the pilot who allegedly destroyed the Death Star? it was. Vader was ordered to "bring him in" for interrigation and re-education.

5) Why did Lord Vader decide to break all protocols and personally pilot a lightly armored TIE Fighter? Conveniently, this placed Lord Vader outside of the Death Star when it was destroyed, where he was also conveniently able to escape from a large-sized rebel fleet that had just routed the Imperial forces. Why would Lord Vader, one of the highest ranking members of the Imperial Government, suddenly decide to fly away from the Death Star in the middle of a battle? Did he know something that the rest of the Imperial Navy didn’t?Lord Vader is an Accomplished pilot. his Advanced TIE is different than the normal TIE fighters the other pilots were using. In fact, as a child, it was rumored that he destroyed a captial ship belonging to the now defunct "Trade Federation"

Emperor Palpatine fails to act after being informed of the attackexcuse me, he planted probes and other recording devices everywhere... without the consent of planetary leaders... he had his ships on vast sweeps looking for these "terrorists" with little reguard for privacy nor individual rights.

6) How could any pilot shoot a missile into a 2 meter-wide exhaust port, let alone a pilot with no formal training, whose only claim to fame was his ability to “bullseye womprats” on Tatooine? This shot, according to one pilot, would be “impossible, even for a computer.” Yet, according to additional evidence, the pilot who allegedly fired the missile turned off his targeting computer when he was supposedly firing the shot that destroyed the Death Star. Why have these discrepancies never been investigated, let alone explained? Beginners luck. fire enough missles at it and one will get in. (remember there was a larger force engaged with the security forces at that time. now the real question is, why was there no protective covering over that port? most people will have a grill of some sort...

7) Why has their been no investigation into evidence that the droids who provided the rebels with the Death Star plans were once owned by none other than Lord Vader himself, and were found, conveniently, by the pilot who destroyed the Death Star, and who is also believed to be Lord Vader’s son? Evidence also shows that the droids were brought to one Ben Kenobi, who, records indicate, was Darth Vader’s teacher many years earlier! Are all these personal connections between the conspirators and a key figure in the Imperial government supposed to be coincidences?they wern't. The unit known as R2-D2 was owned by Queen-turned-senator Padme from Naboo, who in turn passed it down to her daughter when she died. the other robot was C3-PO, and when it was found dismantled in Bespin, a scan of it's memory banks showed no such ties.

8) How could a single missile destroy a battle station the size of a moon? No records, anywhere, show that any battle station or capital ship has ever been destroyed by a single missile. Furthermore, analysis of the tape of the last moments of the Death Star show numerous small explosions along its surface, prior to it exploding completely! Why does all evidence indicate that strategically placed explosives, not a single missile, is what destroyed the Death Star? Remember... even the plane you fly is built by the lowest bidder. ;)

and also realize there was a battle going on... those explosions could be secondary explosions caused by the battle.
Utracia
02-03-2007, 19:39
Those damn Jews got to Moff Tarkin and Darth Vader? Bribed them or something to make sure the attack succeeded? I suppose anything is possible....

:rolleyes: :p

Or are we talking about some other kind of conspiracy? It is sometimes so hard to tell...
JuNii
02-03-2007, 19:41
Those damn Jawas got to Moff Tarkin and Darth Vader? Bribed them or something to make sure the attack succeeded? I suppose anything is possible....

:rolleyes: :p

Or are we talking about some other kind of conspiracy? It is sometimes so hard to tell...
Corrected! :p
Greater Trostia
02-03-2007, 19:42
Hey, isn't it your 91 year old great-grandfather Shmuel who runs the world?

Yeah, he calls it the family business. I'll be taking over once I've managed to kill and drink the blood of my first Christian baby. (On my own, that is. Group rituals don't count as far as that old bugger's concerned.)
Barringtonia
02-03-2007, 19:48
This reminds me of this: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hAL7w2ybTfQ
Utracia
02-03-2007, 19:48
Corrected! :p

I see! I knew it! Especially with that first point in the OP, they must have somehow bribed the Death Star scientists with their vast amounts of spare parts to make sure the battle station would be vulnerable to the "small one-man fighters" that resulted in its destruction.

Yes. It must be true! :p