NationStates Jolt Archive


Who said this?

Lacadaemon
02-03-2007, 07:06
It is a strange fact, but it is unquestionably true that almost any English intellectual would feel more ashamed of standing to attention during 'God save the King' than of stealing from a poor box.

Can anyone guess the right wing nut who wrote this? I'll help you out by telling you it wasn't Oswald Mosley.
Arthais101
02-03-2007, 07:12
Orwell can hardly be described as "right wing"
Lacadaemon
02-03-2007, 07:12
Orwell can hardly be described as "right wing"

He hated left wing intellectuals though.
Barringtonia
02-03-2007, 07:18
He goes on to say...

"The immediately striking thing about all these (left-wing) papers is their generally negative, querulous attitude, their complete lack at all times of any constructive suggestion. There is little in them except the irresponsible carping of people who have never been and never expect to be in a position of power. Another marked characteristic is the emotional shallowness of people who live in a world of ideas and have little contact with physical reality."

Reminds me of something but I can't quite remember what...
Rotovia-
02-03-2007, 07:21
Orwell can hardly be described as "right wing"
Orwell loathed the left and was an avid 'patriot pamphleteer'; right-wing is a fair call
Dododecapod
02-03-2007, 07:23
Orwell loathed the left and was an avid 'patriot pamphleteer'; right-wing is a fair call

But he also loathed and feared the right.
Soviet Haaregrad
02-03-2007, 07:28
Orwell was a democratic socialist for his entire adult life...
Lacadaemon
02-03-2007, 07:29
Reminds me of something but I can't quite remember what...

University professors I would imagine.
Soheran
02-03-2007, 07:33
right-wing is a fair call

Except when he advocated socialism and praised the Anarchists during the Spanish Civil War.

:rolleyes:
Lacadaemon
02-03-2007, 07:37
Except when he advocated socialism and praised the Anarchists during the Spanish Civil War.

:rolleyes:

He did a little more than just praise them.
Soheran
02-03-2007, 07:39
He did a little more than just praise them.

True; he also fought with the Trotskyist POUM.

Clearly, a hard-core conservative.
Damn Cheap Monkeys
02-03-2007, 07:40
It can't possibly be the Congressional or Executive branches of the US government; where the right-wing asshats are regularly elected right along with the no-real-solution left wingers and both wings have almost completely lost touch with reality.
Similization
02-03-2007, 07:49
Orwell loathed the left and was an avid 'patriot pamphleteer'; right-wing is a fair callHe didn't hate the left, he was an active part of it. He hated authoritarianism, left & right. You might as well be calling me a rightwinger.
Lacadaemon
02-03-2007, 07:49
True; he also fought with the Trotskyist POUM.

Clearly, a hard-core conservative.

Though it was formed against the will of Trotsky.

And don't you find that Orwell holds a remarkable number of traditional conservative prejudices? Distrust of intellectual elites, belief in the unchanging fabric of little england's society, distrust of empire etc.
Dododecapod
02-03-2007, 09:07
Though it was formed against the will of Trotsky.

And don't you find that Orwell holds a remarkable number of traditional conservative prejudices? Distrust of intellectual elites, belief in the unchanging fabric of little england's society, distrust of empire etc.

Orwell was clearly a product of his time, his place in society and his influences. He had the wisdom, however, to seek new experiences, and actually thought about what many of his time and place took for granted. His two greatest works - Animal Farm and 1984 - are as strong as they are because he was able to deconstruct the radical progamme on both ends of the political spectrum, and lay it bare.

Since he saw no good in the radical, is it any wonder he stuck with the conservative?
Harlesburg
05-03-2007, 11:06
Al Gore?
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